HI Viggo Thanks for answering but now how do i actually prove it. the marriage certificate that ill be getting in a few days dosent have parents names on it. and as far as i know the land records that ill be getting dont have anything either. I know he made two trips back to Norway would there be a record of that some where. He went back the first time in 1869 and stayed until 1870 then the last time he went was Fall of 1904 and came back in the month of May 1905 Thanks for any help Rhonda

Rhonda, I think SHAL refers to SKJOLD parish in the far northern part of Rogaland fylke (county) in SW Norway. Furthermore, STRØM (=STRAUM, in dialect) is a farmname in this area, and today it is in TYSVÆR municipality (kommune). You would pronounce SHAL much the same way as a Norwegian would pronounce SKJOLD. In the Passport records for the bailiff in Ryfylke District, Rogaland 1811-1859 I find Dam Halvorsen STRØM (23 years), from Skjold parish, who filed for a passport on May 4, 1858 to travel to North America. In the emigrant lists from Stavanger I find Dam HALVORSEN b. Jan 19, 1835 from ROMSELAND, SKJOLD who emigrates with his brother Sjur (=Sever/Sivert) in 1858. Interestingly, ROMSELAND is located next to the STRØM (Straum) farm. According to your info Sjur/Sivert must have returned to Norway. 1865 Census : SKJOLD Parish (Digitalarkivet = Digital Archives) Farm name: ROTTEN ( = a cotter's place under the ROMSELAND farm ) Halvard Damssøn Head / Cotter 57 m Skjolds p. Anne Marta Knutsd. His wife 54 f Skjolds p. Sjur Halvardssøn their son ug 22 m Skjolds p. ----- SJUR / SIVERT / SEVER Halvard Andrias Halvardss. their son ug 13 m Skjolds p. ----- ANDREW Marta Halvardsd. their daughter ug 29 k Skjolds p. ------ MARTHA Anne Marta Halvardsd. their daughter ug 20 k Skjolds p. ----- ANNA Marta Jakobsd. Wife's mother / resident widow 84 f Skjolds p. (ug = unmarried ) In the 1801 Census I find a widow named Martha Damsdatter (b.ca1731) at the STRØM farm, Skjold parish. This indicates a connection of the quite rare name Dam with the STRØM farm. It is possible that this Martha was Dam/Daniel's g-grandmother. In conclusion, I'm quite confident that Dam HALVORSEN (Halvardsøn) is same as the Daniel H. DANIELSON you're seeking. Also, all the names you mention show up in the family in the 1865 Census. His given name was Dam, and he changed it to Daniel in America. Finally, he adopted a surname similar to his father's patronym (DAMSON vs. DANIELSON). Hope this is of some help for your research. Viggo in Bergen, Norway ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: [ILLASALLE] Daniel Danielson > I wrote that like his obit said but i think that it was misspelled i > think Strom in Shal could be Straum in Skjøld. > > I also think that Dam Holvardson and Daniel are the same Two men but i dont > know how to prove it > > Daniel married a Sarah Jane Bass in 1865 in Iowa and had two children Rosa > Anna and Flora Mae Danielson. > > > Daniel's Head stone Says Daniel H Danielson but have found him as Daniel M > Danielson on your Norway Cencus. also Someone else has him as Daniel S > Danielson. But i Think the H may stand for Holvardson. but not sure. > > Anna Hiaring may be her Husbands last name . also my Daniel came to America > in 1858 . > > Thank you again Rhonda

Hello again. I'll do som echekking for you. First I want you to know that Shal is NOT a norwegian word. Do you know if it is in Valdres as the other Danielson you seeking for?. The farm is probarby Strom with a o with mark over prononced -ea- as in earl. It meens streaming and is a rahter normal norwegian farm name. As to the sister and brother, they are probarbly Andreas and Syvert in Norwegian. I wonder are they called Danielson or Hiaring? (Hiaring is a VERY strange name, could be Jaring) I'll get back to you. Marte ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- ..den dannede person er han eller hun som evner a leve pa den grensen der motsetningen mellom enhet og flerhet na ligger i dagen... (Lars Lovlie) ----------------------------------------- -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sendt: 7. juni 2003 00:54 Til: [email protected] Emne: [ILLASALLE] Daniel Danielson HI Marte All i know of my Daniel is Daniel H Danielson Born January 19 1835 Norway on a Farm named Strom in Shal Married 1865 Iowa Died August 21 1918 When he was 23 years of age he imigrated to America with a number of neighbors and friends in th year 1858 In July 12 1858 he came to Henry County Iowa and stayed one year. and then went to Leland in LaSalle County Illinois where he worked for 4 1/2 years then he went back to Iowa near New Sharon he bought and sold several farms in his life. He is the Oldest of Ten children His Sister Anna Hiaring and brother Andrew came to America later. left in Norway is his Sister Martha and brother Severt he had one brother and four sisters who died in infancy. He made his first trip back to Norway in 1869 and stayed one year and his last trip was in 1904 and came back in 1905 A lady im talking to found some of his land records in Iowa. and his Marriage Certificate and ill have them soon she says his parents are not named on it. Someone on the Norway list Thinks That my Daniel And A Dam Holvardson are the same farm named Rotten. but i dont know how to porve that these two are the same.two men. I really would like to find his parents . Thank you Rhonda ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

HI Marte I wrote that like his obit said but i think that it was misspelled i think Strom in Shal could be Straum in Skjøld. I also think that Dam Holvardson and Daniel are the same Two men but i dont know how to prove it Daniel married a Sarah Jane Bass in 1865 in Iowa and had two children Rosa Anna and Flora Mae Danielson. Im not connected to the other Danielson Post. My Daniel Only Stayed in LaSalle County for 4 1/2 years. he worked there but i dont know at what maybe farming. he may have had land there but i dont know for sure thats why id like to find someone who could look there for me. AS i live in North Carolina and cant get there to look. Daniel's Head stone Says Daniel H Danielson but have found him as Daniel M Danielson on your Norway Cencus. also Someone else has him as Daniel S Danielson. But i Think the H may stand for Holvardson. but not sure. Anna Hiaring may be her Husbands last name . also my Daniel came to America in 1858 . Thank you again Rhonda

Seeking information on the following family line: Daniel Christopher DANIELSON b: abt. 1850 in LaSalle Co., IL Father: Christopher DANIELSON Jr. (1834-?) in Valdres, Norway Mother: Ann THOMASON (abt. 1835) married: Ellen HOLVERSON b: abt. 1855 in LaSalle Co., IL Would someone please do a lookup for me on this family line. I would appreciate it. Gwen

HI Marte All i know of my Daniel is Daniel H Danielson Born January 19 1835 Norway on a Farm named Strom in Shal Married 1865 Iowa Died August 21 1918 When he was 23 years of age he imigrated to America with a number of neighbors and friends in th year 1858 In July 12 1858 he came to Henry County Iowa and stayed one year. and then went to Leland in LaSalle County Illinois where he worked for 4 1/2 years then he went back to Iowa near New Sharon he bought and sold several farms in his life. He is the Oldest of Ten children His Sister Anna Hiaring and brother Andrew came to America later. left in Norway is his Sister Martha and brother Severt he had one brother and four sisters who died in infancy. He made his first trip back to Norway in 1869 and stayed one year and his last trip was in 1904 and came back in 1905 A lady im talking to found some of his land records in Iowa. and his Marriage Certificate and ill have them soon she says his parents are not named on it. Someone on the Norway list Thinks That my Daniel And A Dam Holvardson are the same farm named Rotten. but i dont know how to porve that these two are the same.two men. I really would like to find his parents . Thank you Rhonda

I live in Norway, If you like I can help you out trying to find him here. Than I need more information, as the nationwide records just covers 1801, 1875. Marte ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- ..den dannede person er han eller hun som evner a leve pa den grensen der motsetningen mellom enhet og flerhet na ligger i dagen... (Lars Lovlie) ----------------------------------------- -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sendt: 6. juni 2003 04:09 Til: [email protected] Emne: [ILLASALLE] Daniel Danielson Hi List I have a Daniel Danielson that lived i think in 1859 he moved Leland LaSalle County where he worked for four 1/2 years he was born Jan 19 1835 Norway could someone on list help me find him in this town like in news papers or any land records any help would be appricitated. Im trying to find out where he may have been naturilized Thank you Rhonda ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Seeking information on the following family line: Daniel Christopher DANIELSON b: abt. 1850 in LaSalle Co., IL Father: Christopher DANIELSON Jr. (1834-?) in Valdres, Norway Mother: Ann THOMASON (abt. 1835) married: Ellen HOLVERSON b: abt. 1855 in LaSalle Co., IL Anyone with any information on this family line please get back to me on this. Gwen

Hi List I have a Daniel Danielson that lived i think in 1859 he moved Leland LaSalle County where he worked for four 1/2 years he was born Jan 19 1835 Norway could someone on list help me find him in this town like in news papers or any land records any help would be appricitated. Im trying to find out where he may have been naturilized Thank you Rhonda

Some time ago I sent an obituary for Rosanna Mason-Worrels that mentioned her sister Mrs. Abbie Phibbs. Don't know why I did not notice this before, but Abigail L. H. Mason-Phibbs is buried in Riverview Block 12, Row 08, Page 105 Thomas M. Phibbs, Co. K, 4 IA Cav. 25 June 1835 - 13 April 1913 Abigail L. H., Wife of Thomas M. 29 May 1850 - 30 Jan. 1923 (married Jan. 30, 1866) Joanie

I was wondering if anyone was researching the GRONSTAD or GRUNSTED family line. Ancestry starts with an Eric GRONSTAD married to the CHALLY family line around the middle 1800's. Anyone with any information on this family line please get in contact with me. It would be greatly appreciated. Settled in LaSalle Co., IL once coming to America from Norway around the middle 1800's. Gwen

I would like to get in touch with the David Thomson Sr. descendants. I have recently discovered the David Thomson family in LaSalle County Illinois, are the family of my David Thompson of Llano County, Texas. We have much to share. Linda Bowden

Carol wrote: > Joanie, > > You can find the archived messages here: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in ILLASALL > and it will take you to the search page. They are archived from 1998 - > 2003. This page will give an option to search and browse http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/IL/lasalle.html Al

I am looking for my great grandfather and great grandmother, who lived in Streator, but I'm not sure if it was in LaSalle Co. or Livingston Co. They had 2 sons while living there: John in 1866, and Harry in 1874. This is all I know about them. If you have any information that might be helpful in my search, please contact me at [email protected] . Barbara Redline

Hi Joanie, Accidently just sent this letter to the Digest address. Hope it doesn't unsubscribe me ! You've probably given this information several times, but as an off and on subscriber, I'm uncertain. Is ILLASALL-list archived ? I'm researching the families of brothers John and Michael FERRITER who were residents of Ottawa in 1870. Some of the family are also mentionned as residents of Ottawa in the 1877 History of LaSalle Co. It appears, however, that John and most of his children may have left Ottawa before 1877. Would greatly appreciate it if someone would check the 1880 Ottawa census for any Ferriters living in Ottawa in 1880. Michael Ferriter appears to have died in Ottawa sometime after 1900. His wife Catherine died sometime previously. Does the Ottawa Historical Society have cemetery records that might provide their exact dates of death ? What other sorts of (ca. 1870-1910) records does the Ottawa Historical Society have that might provide additional info on these families ? Finally can anyone tell me the name and address of the Catholic Church in Ottawa with which Father Terry was affiliated ca. 1875 ? Joanne in Maine

Hi Joanie, You've probably given this information several times, but as an off and on subscriber, I'm uncertain. Is ILLASALL-list archived ? I'm researching the families of brothers John and Michael FERRITER who were residents of Ottawa in 1870. Some of the family are also mentionned as residents of Ottawa in the 1877 History of LaSalle Co. It appears, however, that John and most of his children may have left Ottawa before 1877. Would greatly appreciate it if someone would check the 1880 Ottawa census for any Ferriters living in Ottawa in 1880. Michael Ferriter appears to have died in Ottawa sometime after 1900. His wife Catherine died sometime previously. Does the Ottawa Historical Society have cemetery records that might provide their exact dates of death ? What other sorts of (ca. 1870-1910) records does the Ottawa Historical Society have that might provide additional info on these families ? Finally can anyone tell me the name and address of the Catholic Church in Ottawa with which Father Terry was affiliated ca. 1875 ? Joanne in Maine

Joanie, You can find the archived messages here: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in ILLASALL and it will take you to the search page. They are archived from 1998 - 2003. Good Luck! Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: [ILLASALLE] Ottawa 1870-1910 > Hi Joanie, > Accidently just sent this letter to the Digest address. Hope it doesn't > unsubscribe me ! You've probably given this information several times, but as > an off and on subscriber, I'm uncertain. Is ILLASALL-list archived ? > I'm researching the families of brothers John and Michael FERRITER who > were residents of Ottawa in 1870. Some of the family are also mentionned as > residents of Ottawa in the 1877 History of LaSalle Co. It appears, however, that > John and most of his children may have left Ottawa before 1877. Would > greatly appreciate it if someone would check the 1880 Ottawa census for any > Ferriters living in Ottawa in 1880. Michael Ferriter appears to have died in Ottawa > sometime after 1900. His wife Catherine died sometime previously. Does the > Ottawa Historical Society have cemetery records that might provide their exact > dates of death ? What other sorts of (ca. 1870-1910) records does the > Ottawa Historical Society have that might provide additional info on these > families ? > Finally can anyone tell me the name and address of the Catholic Church in > Ottawa with which Father Terry was affiliated ca. 1875 ? > Joanne in Maine > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yep, my dad spoke of "Uncle Archie." Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Joan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: [ILLASALLE] Archie K. White > >When I sent the 1880 census information, there was an Archey list as one >of the children. > >The Prairie Farmers' 1917 Directory lists, >Archie K. White (Anna Dickerson-wife) as a tenant farmer of 240 acres in >Sect. 21 of Earl Township. > >Joanie > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Amy, I too, have several families who lived in LaSalle Co. Strait/Straight, Beguin, Highland/Hyland, Martin, Marco. Is the History of La Salle County Book still in print? Could I borrow if from a lending Library? Thank you Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "nance golden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [ILLASALLE] Biographies from History of La Salle County Book > Hi Amy, > > I'm just going through my e-mail for the past month and found your post > about La Salle biographies. Would there be an Ellis White listed? He > married Desire Kuney. Ellis was my gr-grandfather. His daughter, my > grandmother, came to the SW with her husband (Edward Everett Becker) when he > contracted TB. Only her oldest sister, Edie, came to visit, I know that she > had about 7 siblings, and little more. Her mother was Desire Kuney, and > there's a lot of information on the Kuney family, but it's really Sadie that > I want to know about. She was actually sort of a surrogate mother to me and > I'm not sure what or where I'd be now without her. > > Anyway, if you have any information on Ellis's parentage, or anything, I'd > love to know. > > > Thanks, > > Nance > ([email protected]) > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:09 PM > Subject: [ILLASALLE] Biographies from History of La Salle County Book > > > >I found the following bio for my ancestor Allen McDonell in a book The > >History of La Salle County, Illinois: together with scetches of its cities, > >villages and towns, educational, religious, civil, military, and political > >history, portraits of prominent persons and biographies... published in > 1886, > >which I accessed on-line through my (Oregon State) library. > > > >If you think your ancestor might be listed here, let me know and I will > look > >it up (This is a very slow process on my computer so please be patient). I > >would need the township and the individuals name. > > > >If anyone has more information on anyone listed in this bio, I would love > to > >hear from you. > > > >Biography from History of La Salle County, Illinois: > >Allen McDonell, deceased, was born in Invernesshire, Scotland, in 1825, and > >came to the United States in 1848, locating in Peoria County, Ill., where > he > >was married in 1849 to Mary Taylor, a native of Shropshire, England, born > in > >1827, daughter of Wiliam Taylor. She came with her parents to America in > >1849, and located in Peoria County, where her father died the following > year. > > Mr. McDonell lived in Peoria County till 1864, when with his wife he went > to > >Scotland and remained a year. Upon his return to America, he settled in > >Osage Township, LaSalle County, where, with the assistance of his sons he > >improved a valuable farm. He died May 1, 1876, leaving behind him a good > >name and a memory cherished by all who knew his sterling qualities. The > >mother with her six children, Donald, Duncan, Sarah, Ronald, John, and > Agnes, > >lives on the old homestead, on section 11. the farm contains 400 acres of > >land and is located on sections 10, 11 and 23. > > > >Amy Reaney > >Portland, Oregon > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________

Thank you Joanie for posting children of Henry & Caroline Riss. I am still trying to find out if there is a connection to my family. Sophia Riss(do not know her maiden name or who she married) was born 1819 in Germany & came to US in 1882. She was living with her daughter(my great grandmother) Eliza D. Gernentz (Riss) 1900 census. She died May 1903 & is buried in Allen cemetery in Ransom, Illinois. I have the death certificate for Sophia Riss-no info... Mary Lou Message # 3 Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:31:49 -0500 From: Joan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [ILLASALLE] Children of Henry and Caroline Riss Joanie