Hi, My name is Don Feldbruegge, and my wife is Sandra Reichel. We live in Wisconsin, near Madison. We are both retired. I started researching my wife's family (her paternal side) almost 20 years ago. We had almost no direct family information as her gfather died before she was born, her father and grandmother had both died, 2 aunts in California also dead at this time. To shorten things up, I made pretty good progress. Found the family (Wenzl and Katherina Reichl, and several children) had arrived in Baltimore in 1878, and moved to Chicago shortly thereafter. My wife's gfather was born in June of 1879, and then the father (Wenzl) died in July of 1879. I managed to locate the marriages of the children, and their own children being born, and then subsequent deaths. We have even located some descendants and visited with them in person -- relatives she didn't even know existed. Then I came to 2 stone walls. Number 1, I couldn't locate the village they had come from (Neudorf, Bohemia), due to large number of villages with the same name. Number 2, I could not locate the death or burial of Katherina Reichl (she was born in 1834) no matter what I tried -- I was fairly certain she died between 1905-1910. Having come to a dead-end, I switched to the maternal side of her family. About 6 months ago, one of the stone walls was broken. Completely unexpectedly, we found a person (a Reichl) from the very same Neudorf, Bohemia. We now have church records for all the family members. We also discovered that there were 2 older children that we never knew existed, Margaret (b 1854) and George Reichl (b 1859). It now appears that they had immigrated earlier than the parents and younger children. So what does this have to do with Lake County? About a month or two ago, I discovered that George Reichl had married Katherina Pfannenstill (she was also born in Neudorf, 1864) at St. Mary's church in Fremont Center, Lake County, IL. I have a marriage license and a church record. Unfortunately, I never again could locate George & Katherina Reichl in any records at all, other than the possible birth of a child in 1887, in Cook County. I finally ordered the St. Mary's cemetery records through the Family History Center. It arrived 2 days ago, and there it is! George Reichle, age 30, died 8-27-1889, buried in lot 26. Also in lot 26 is a Georgina Reichl(e), died 8-22-1889, and Katharina Reichle, 1864-1930. I have ordered the St. Mary's church records, but that will be some time in coming. I'm convinced that the death of a father and a child (I think Georgina was likely a child) five days apart would be a newsworthy event, perhaps not in a city like Chicago but certainly in more rural area like Fremont Center. I know there would be much more information in a news article than in the church record. There must be a story in this. A fire? A disease which took both of them? A death followed by father's suicide? What happened? The question I have is, what newspaper would have been covering Fremont Center in 1889? If I know which newspaper, I can order a microfilm of it, or I can even go to the nearest Lake County library that might have it. Thank you for any help at all. Regards, Don Feldbruegge

Hi Don, I am related to the Scheid family out of McHenry Illinois and there is a connection with Pfannenstill through the Scheid's and Wagner's. do you have any other information on Katharina Pfannenstill? I think I have a branch of theirs in my tree on my mother's side. I have a Joseph Pfannenstill that married Eva Scheid. I am copying a couple other researchers that may have some information that may help you. I stop at Joseph, he was born in 1868 but I don't have where he was born. I didn't see Reichle/Reichel in my records but that doesn't mean that is shouldn't be, just that I currently don't. Who knows! Also, when you are looking through the St. Mary;s records could you look and see if there is a listing for Clara Nossak Dorfler. She supposedly died in 1911. Take Care, Cindy God Bless you Researching Scheid, Freund, Redmond, Yore, Dorfler, Weir, Heltwine, Wells, Mosher/Musser, Rosing/Russing, Ullrich, Berberet, Nelson et al... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Feldbruegge" <dhfeldbr@chorus.net> To: <ILLAKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: My first post to this list > Hi, > My name is Don Feldbruegge, and my wife is Sandra Reichel. We live in > Wisconsin, near Madison. We are both retired. > > I started researching my wife's family (her paternal side) almost 20 years > ago. We had almost no direct family information as her gfather died before > she was born, her father and grandmother had both died, 2 aunts in> > California also dead at this time. > > To shorten things up, I made pretty good progress. Found the family (Wenzl > and Katherina Reichl, and several children) had arrived in Baltimore in > 1878, and moved to Chicago shortly thereafter. My wife's gfather was born > in June of 1879, and then the father (Wenzl) died in July of 1879. I > managed to locate the marriages of the children, and their own children > being born, and then subsequent deaths. We have even located some > descendants and visited with them in person -- relatives she didn't even > know existed. > > Then I came to 2 stone walls. Number 1, I couldn't locate the village they > had come from (Neudorf, Bohemia), due to large number of villages with the > same name. Number 2, I could not locate the death or burial of Katherina > Reichl (she was born in 1834) no matter what I tried -- I was fairly > certain she died between 1905-1910. Having come to a dead-end, I switched > to the maternal side of her family. > > About 6 months ago, one of the stone walls was broken. Completely > unexpectedly, we found a person (a Reichl) from the very same Neudorf, > Bohemia. We now have church records for all the family members. We also > discovered that there were 2 older children that we never knew existed, > Margaret (b 1854) and George Reichl (b 1859). It now appears that they had > immigrated earlier than the parents and younger children. > > So what does this have to do with Lake County? About a month or two ago, I > discovered that George Reichl had married Katherina Pfannenstill (she was > also born in Neudorf, 1864) at St. Mary's church in Fremont Center, Lake > County, IL. I have a marriage license and a church record. Unfortunately, > I never again could locate George & Katherina Reichl in any records at > all, other than the possible birth of a child in 1887, in Cook County. I > finally ordered the St. Mary's cemetery records through the Family History > Center. > It arrived 2 days ago, and there it is! George Reichle, age 30, died > 8-27-1889, buried in lot 26. Also in lot 26 is a Georgina Reichl(e), died > 8-22-1889, and Katharina Reichle, 1864-1930. I have ordered the St. Mary's > church records, but that will be some time in coming. > > I'm convinced that the death of a father and a child (I think Georgina was > likely a child) five days apart would be a newsworthy event, perhaps not > in a city like Chicago but certainly in more rural area like Fremont > Center. I know there would be much more information in a news article than > in the church record. There must be a story in this. A fire? A disease > which took > both of them? A death followed by father's suicide? What happened? > > The question I have is, what newspaper would have been covering Fremont > Center in 1889? If I know which newspaper, I can order a microfilm of it, > or I can even go to the nearest Lake County library that might have it. > > Thank you for any help at all. > > Regards, > Don Feldbruegge > > > ==== ILLAKE Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILLAKE > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Cindy ON 08/20/2006, Cindy Hederer wrote: > Hi Don, > I am related to the Scheid family out of McHenry Illinois and there is a > connection with Pfannenstill through the Scheid's and Wagner's. > do you have any other information on Katharina Pfannenstill? I think I > have a branch of theirs in my tree on my mother's side. I have a Joseph > Pfannenstill that married Eva Scheid. > I am copying a couple other researchers that may have some information > that may help you. I stop at Joseph, he was born in 1868 but I don't > have where he was born. Oh boy. I haven't really investigated the Pfannenstill family, outside of Katharina (Catharina). First off, it is so very recently discovered this. Secondly, the other members of the Pfannenstill family aren't related in any way. I did check on the immigration. It appears they arrived in Baltimore in October, 1873 (there is no day of the month on the manifest) on the ship "Berlin", having sailed from Bremen. The family was from Bohemia, Austria -- I am almost certain the village was Neudorf. The family consisted of Franz (age 35), Theresia (age 36), Franz (junior) (age 16), Anna (age 14), Joseph (age 12) and Catharina (age 9). It would appear that this Joseph would have been born in 1861. This Catharina is the one I'm interested in. (Joseph and Anna were witnesses at the wedding of Georg Reichl and Catharina Pfannenstill in 1883.) I also located the family in the 1880 census, but Joseph was no longer living with them at that time. They had also had several more children by this time (Georg, Frank and Caroline). Catharina (age 16) was still living at home. That is as far as I've followed the family, inasmuch as after this Catharina (Katharina) was now a Reichl. There were MANY Pfannenstill families in Neudorf (Bohemia), and I wouldn't be surprised at all if others also immigrated. I seem to recall there being several others in the 1880 census. Hmm, right up higher on that same page of the census I see a John Pfannenstill (63) and wife Emelie Anna (63) with a son named Josef who was 12 years old, born in Austria. This might be "your" Joseph. As these 2 families live close to each other, I'm speculating that they are related. > I didn't see Reichle/Reichel in my records but that doesn't mean that is > shouldn't be, just that I currently don't. Who knows! > Also, when you are looking through the St. Mary;s records could you look > and see if there is a listing for Clara Nossak Dorfler. She supposedly > died in 1911. When I go back to the FHC (likely next Thurs), I will take a look. I noticed that there were many Pfannenstill individuals buried there. > Take Care, > Cindy > God Bless you > Researching Scheid, Freund, Redmond, Yore, Dorfler, Weir, Heltwine, > Wells, Mosher/Musser, Rosing/Russing, Ullrich, Berberet, Nelson et al... Regards, Don Feldbruegge

Hi, ON 08/20/2006, Cindy Hederer wrote: > Hi Don, > I am related to the Scheid family out of McHenry Illinois and there is a > connection with Pfannenstill through the Scheid's and Wagner's. > do you have any other information on Katharina Pfannenstill? I think I > have a branch of theirs in my tree on my mother's side. I have a Joseph > Pfannenstill that married Eva Scheid. > I am copying a couple other researchers that may have some information > that may help you. I stop at Joseph, he was born in 1868 but I don't > have where he was born. > I didn't see Reichle/Reichel in my records but that doesn't mean that is > shouldn't be, just that I currently don't. Who knows! > Also, when you are looking through the St. Mary;s records could you look > and see if there is a listing for Clara Nossak Dorfler. She supposedly > died in 1911. There are 20 "Dorfler"s buried in St. Marys's-Fremont cemetery, but I'm sorry to say that not one of them is named Clara. Also. many of them don't have internment dates; of those that do have a date, none are 1911. That film also listed cemeteries for St. Bede, St. Mary's-Highland, St. Mary's-Lake Forest and St. Patrick's-W. Lake Forest. None of these cemeteries had a Dorfler. I'm sorry. I was also looking at the Lake County Marriage index today; my eye's lit up at the marriage of a Joseph Pfannenstill, but it turned out the bride was Katherine Geier. I'm afraid I haven't been much help. Best regards, Don Feldbruegge > Take Care, > Cindy > God Bless you > Researching Scheid, Freund, Redmond, Yore, Dorfler, Weir, Heltwine, > Wells, Mosher/Musser, Rosing/Russing, Ullrich, Berberet, Nelson et al... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Feldbruegge" <dhfeldbr@chorus.net> > To: <ILLAKE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:56 PM > Subject: My first post to this list >> Hi, >> My name is Don Feldbruegge, and my wife is Sandra Reichel. We live in >> Wisconsin, near Madison. We are both retired. >> >> I started researching my wife's family (her paternal side) almost 20 >> years ago. We had almost no direct family information as her gfather >> died before she was born, her father and grandmother had both died, 2 >> aunts in> California also dead at this time. >> >> To shorten things up, I made pretty good progress. Found the family >> (Wenzl and Katherina Reichl, and several children) had arrived in >> Baltimore in 1878, and moved to Chicago shortly thereafter. My wife's >> gfather was born in June of 1879, and then the father (Wenzl) died in >> July of 1879. I managed to locate the marriages of the children, and >> their own children being born, and then subsequent deaths. We have even >> located some descendants and visited with them in person -- relatives >> she didn't even know existed. >> >> Then I came to 2 stone walls. Number 1, I couldn't locate the village >> they had come from (Neudorf, Bohemia), due to large number of villages >> with the same name. Number 2, I could not locate the death or burial of >> Katherina Reichl (she was born in 1834) no matter what I tried -- I was >> fairly certain she died between 1905-1910. Having come to a dead-end, I >> switched to the maternal side of her family. >> >> About 6 months ago, one of the stone walls was broken. Completely >> unexpectedly, we found a person (a Reichl) from the very same Neudorf, >> Bohemia. We now have church records for all the family members. We also >> discovered that there were 2 older children that we never knew existed, >> Margaret (b 1854) and George Reichl (b 1859). It now appears that they >> had immigrated earlier than the parents and younger children. >> >> So what does this have to do with Lake County? About a month or two ago, >> I discovered that George Reichl had married Katherina Pfannenstill (she >> was also born in Neudorf, 1864) at St. Mary's church in Fremont Center, >> Lake County, IL. I have a marriage license and a church record. >> Unfortunately, I never again could locate George & Katherina Reichl in >> any records at all, other than the possible birth of a child in 1887, >> in Cook County. I finally ordered the St. Mary's cemetery records >> through the Family History Center. >> It arrived 2 days ago, and there it is! George Reichle, age 30, died >> 8-27-1889, buried in lot 26. Also in lot 26 is a Georgina Reichl(e), >> died 8-22-1889, and Katharina Reichle, 1864-1930. I have ordered the >> St. Mary's church records, but that will be some time in coming. >> >> I'm convinced that the death of a father and a child (I think Georgina >> was likely a child) five days apart would be a newsworthy event, >> perhaps not in a city like Chicago but certainly in more rural area >> like Fremont Center. I know there would be much more information in a >> news article than in the church record. There must be a story in this. >> A fire? A disease which took >> both of them? A death followed by father's suicide? What happened? >> >> The question I have is, what newspaper would have been covering Fremont >> Center in 1889? If I know which newspaper, I can order a microfilm of >> it, or I can even go to the nearest Lake County library that might have >> it. >> Thank you for any help at all. >> >> Regards, >> Don Feldbruegge