Todd, Was the map or atlas you scanned the 1861 Thompson Map or the 1870 Andreas Lyter Atlas? We were of the impression that this was the 1861 map and I haven't compared. They are two different works. Thanks, Rex At 10:45 PM 6/19/01 -0500, you wrote: > OK, my turn to speak up. I'M THE ONE THAT SENT BOB THE MAPS. In my >original message to him I said I had a reprint and asked if he'd like to >post it. In no way did I misrepresent what I scanned. I thought (and still >do think) it would be an excellant addition to the site. It was my poor >choice of words calling it an "Atlas". If my scanner could handle, it's too >big, the original 1870 Atlas THAT I OWN, it would be on there too. I have >communicated with him about this and I will take the blame. It's over, they >aren't there any more. WHAT A SHAME. And no, I wasn't asking for any >special credit, I USED to enjoy sharing what I have. > There is nothing "suspicious" about it Rex, I scanned them out of the >KCGS book. I still don't believe you can copyright a 140 year old map, >perhaps if I had cropped the page headings, identifying numbers, and the >irrelevant lines around Galesburg and Knoxville, this would not have been a >problem. By the way, I'm a member of KCGS. > If none of you have been to the Knox Co. website lately, you > should. Bob >is doing a better job on this (much, much better) than most any other >county sites I've been to and I would hope that he will still trust me to >keep adding items of interest, of which I've added dozens in the last >couple months. Maybe your family isn't from South East Knox, but somebodies >might be, and it could be interesting anyway. My hat is off to Bob. I wish >that more of you would submit your info, be it your grandmothers memoirs >(look under Owen in families) or letters or whatever, he'll find a place >for it. Believe me, these things could be lost forever. Ruth, what can you >add. > > >TODD IN MAQUON > > > >At 06:02 PM 6/19/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Thanks Ruth and Bob: > > I hadn't pullled my copy of the Thompson map off the shelf and had > >forgotten how much work Jean Forbes had done. I did check and the Thompson > >map was not an atlas in its original form but was a wall map; Jean had to > >do a lot of work to make the atlas. It seems if we are to err, better to > >err in the direction of giving someone more credit than deserved than > >giving someone who deserves much credit none at all. > >Rex > > > > At 10:55 AM 6/18/01 +0100, you wrote: > >>Rex: The 1861 Maps of Knox County were compiled originally by Thompson, and > >>I have no idea in what form. It was "Compiled, drawn and Published from > >>County Records" etc. and finally published with the work done by Jean > >>Forbes, who Indexed it. It was NOT copyrighted as far as I am able to > >>determine. I have no knowledge of the source of the one on the web page. > >>---------- > >>Ruth > >> >From: Rex Cherrington <Cherrington@gallatinriver.net> > >> >To: ILKNOX-L@rootsweb.com > >> >Subject: Re: [ILKNOX-L] 1861 Knox County Township Platt Maps > >> >Date: Mon, Jun 18, 2001, 2:36 AM > >> > >> > Ruth, > >> > As I recall, the 1861 Thompson map was not an atlas but a wall > map, in > >> >it's original form. The Knox County Genealogical Society made it into an > >> >atlas. The one on the web-site looks suspiciously similar to the work > >> >that was created from the Thompson map, copyrighted and sold by the Knox > >> >County Genealogical Society. The page headings, typing of the > identifying > >> >numbers and the line around the city limits of Galesburg all look so > >> >similar. Do you know of this 1861 map being made into an atlas by any > >> >person or organization other than the Knox County Genealogical > >> >Society? Hopefully the source of the one on the web-site will be >revealed > >> >and the similarities will be explained and there wasn't any copying > of the > >> >Society's work. Just curious to hear your thoughts. > >> >Rex > >> > > >> > At 03:45 PM 6/17/01 +0100, you wrote: > >> >> Bob: I AM referring to the 1861 Atlas maps that were published and > >> Indexed > >> >>by the Knox County society. but I fail to see the difference as an >atlas is > >> >>a bound collection of maps. Is your collection something special? Just >need > >> >>clarification. > >> >> > >> >>Ruth > >> >>---------- > >> >> >From: "Bob Miller" <Bob_Miller@rdmiller.com> > >> >> >To: ILKNOX-L@rootsweb.com > >> >> >Subject: RE: [ILKNOX-L] 1861 Knox County Township Platt Maps > >> >> >Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2001, 11:53 PM > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >Hi Ruth, > >> >> > > >> >> >I think you are referring to the 1861 Atlas of Knox County that has >been > >> >> >duplicated and published by the Knox County Genealogical Society (see > >> their > >> >> >publications list at > >> >> >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilknox/home/kcgs_publications.htm). It is a > >> great > >> >> >paper resource, as are all of their publications. > >> >> > > >> >> >My goal is to get some (not all) of this information online for all > >> to see > >> >> >and search electronically. > >> >> > > >> >> >Best wishes, > >> >> >Bob Miller > >> >> > > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >> >From: Ruth Ragsdale [mailto:ruth@galesburg.net] > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 10:46 AM > >> >> >To: ILKNOX-L@rootsweb.com > >> >> >Subject: Re: [ILKNOX-L] 1861 Knox County Township Platt Maps > >> >> >This 1861 map has been Indexed and published some years ago. The > >> secret is > >> >> >knowing where to find it! > >> >> > > >> >> >---------- > >> >> >>From: "Bob Miller" <Bob_Miller@rdmiller.com> > >> >> >>To: ILKNOX-L@rootsweb.com > >> >> >>Subject: [ILKNOX-L] 1861 Knox County Township Platt Maps > >> >> >>Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2001, 6:24 PM > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >>I have just added 1861 Platt maps for all of the Knox County > >> townships to > >> >> >>the Knox County USGenWeb site. You can see links to them at > >> >> >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilknox/maps/maps.htm. Be aware that the > >> full-size > >> >> >>maps are rather large and may take a little time to load over slower > >> >> >>Internet connections. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>I would like to find volunteers to transcribe the readable names in > >> each of > >> >> >>the sections of the maps so that they can be listed on the > >> website. This > >> >> >>will allow site visitors to find those on the maps using the Search > >> feature > >> >> >>on the website. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>If you are interested in helping, contact me beforehand so that I can > >> >> >update > >> >> >>a list of the maps and sections being worked on. This will avoid > >> duplicate > >> >> >>work. Thanks for your help. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Bob Miller > >> >> >>Site Coordinator > >> >> >>Knox County, Illinois, USGenWeb > >> >> >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilknox/ > >> >> >>Share your genealogy research with others! > >> >> >>Upload your GEDCOM file to RootsWeb at: > >> >> >>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >