In a message dated 4/22/03 9:46:43 AM Central Daylight Time, akmac02@yahoo.com writes: > Seeking obituary / death notice for a Lydia M. Reese. > While searching for parents, James H. Reese and Lydia > M. Tucker, in Macomb IL, found a death listing for > Lydia M. Reese, age 65, died 1949-02-26 Kane on the > Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916-1950. I do know > that some of my Reese _ Fredendall/Frydendall line did > live in or near Kane Co. during late 1890s - mid 1940s > .. do not have name of town. Any suggestions on > obtaining an obituary or death notice will be > appreciated. Thank you. > > My guess is that you may want to look in Batavia for your Reese since the Frydendall name is still in Batavia today (2 families in the phone book in Batavia), and there were also two families in Batavia in the 1930 census. The 1930 census shows a 47 year old Lydia Reese living in Hanover twp. in Cook County IL, the wife of John R Reese (38) and son Warren H. Reese (6). Hanover twp is just east of Elgin (actually it it includes the eastern part of Elgin) and right on the Kane / Cook county lines and includes the towns of Streamwood, Hanover Park, and Bartlett. You might want to check the Gail Borden Public Library in Elgin who has an excellent historical collection. I can try to check the Batavia papers in that time frame, but hopefully someone else can check the Elgin papers (Ricki?). There are two large cemeteries in the eastern side of Elgin but, unfortunately, have not been transcribed (that I know of). Gary King Batavia IL Researching in Knox, Licking, Perry Counties, OHIO: Butcher, Crotinger, Davis, McClurg, Wheatcraft, Cooperrider, Beckenbaugh, Neighbarger, Catt, Wilkin In Butler Co., Ohio: Stahlheber, Kippenberger, Beiser, Pater, King In Clermont Co., Ohio: King, Bartlett, Hall, Aylward. In Botetourt Co. Virginia: King, Bean, Dooley, Mayo, Fouts/Foutz/Fout In McLean Co., Illinois: Crotinger, Mickens, Bierbower, Jones, Buck. In Kane Co. Illinois: Gustafson, Maier, Butcher, Keifer, Lindgren Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.raogk.org/

Thank you for the information on Prindle, William and daughter Mary L., It is appreciated very much. Thanks, Pat

Hello listers, I am searching for PRINDLE, Mary L. born about 1885-87 ......found on 1920 census living with her father William PRINDLE on St Charles Street in Elgin. He is listed as a mechinist at the Elgin watch factory. I never could find any information about his wife and this is first of finding his daughter. Any information you can share with me will be appreciated. Regards, Pat ~~ Autumdeer2@aol.com

Hello listers, I am searching for PRINDLE, Mary L. born about 1885-87 ......found on 1920 census living with her father William PRINDLE on St Charles Street in Elgin. He is listed as a mechinist at the Elgin watch factory. I never could find any information about his wife and this is first of finding his daughter. Any information you can share with me will be appreciated. Regards, Pat ~~ Autumdeer2@aol.com

Hi Pat, I found a William Prindle on the Illinois Statewide Death Index: PRINDLE WILLIAM JACKSON M/W UNK 6015508 1934-05-31 COOK CHICAGO 34-06-01 There are three Marys (assuming of course that she didn't marry), but two of the middle names don't match up. Do you have access to the Chicago Daily News? I'd look for an obituary for the William listed above and see if he's a match. Maybe Mary will be listed. William's death cert may give some answers too. I know of a woman who can get those for $3. (There's a link to Molly e-mail address on my web site.) Just another limb, Laura search for fallen leaves at http://home.attbi.com/~branchingout I am searching for PRINDLE, Mary L. born about 1885-87 ......found on 1920 census living with her father William PRINDLE on St Charles Street in Elgin.

Seeking obituary / death notice for a Lydia M. Reese. While searching for parents, James H. Reese and Lydia M. Tucker, in Macomb IL, found a death listing for Lydia M. Reese, age 65, died 1949-02-26 Kane on the Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916-1950. I do know that some of my Reese _ Fredendall/Frydendall line did live in or near Kane Co. during late 1890s - mid 1940s .. do not have name of town. Any suggestions on obtaining an obituary or death notice will be appreciated. Thank you. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com

Here is a list of surnames from Geneva that I have in my data base. Most have only a few given names to go with a specific surname but on my Herrington line there are 100's. Would like to contact anyone who may be researching these lines. Please don't ask me to check on a surname not on this list as it is complete! Atherton Blodget Chapman Davenport de Wolf (mostly St Charles) Herrington Lauer Little Lyon Moore Morton Patterson Pierce Richards Scott Sill Stevenson Stewart Tuthill Webster Doug Little from sunny Florida __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com

Looking for Wilson and Henson families. They had moved on to Jasper Co. Mo. 1850. I've been told William Wilson (Nancy's parents) in 1840 census, Kane Co. Illinois. INfo 1840 provided by another Wilson, unaware of details, grateful for any clues on this lineage. Viola

Am looking for any information on the following: Leroy SNOW b. bet. 1900-1930 who married Esther THUROW, daughter of Anna (KASTEN) and Paul Charles THUROW from Gilberts. LeRoy and Esther had a son Robert SNOW. This information was given to me verbally from Robert's Thurow cousins and I would like to get actual dates and update this line. Jody

Dear listers, again my thanks for the information. I am trying to clear up another inconsistancy. Through a program on a library computer I was able to look up some census images and am now confused about birthplaces. I had thought that Prof. Snow's children were born in Illinois as it stated in the image I saw which listed him as head of household. Another image in which his son Theodore W. is listed as head says that he (T. W.) was born in Kentucky. In the 1930 images of T.W.'s son Oren T.'s household it is stated that the father was born in Kentucky. So I have 2 votes for Kentucky and one for Illinois and that one from the father of the individual in question. Elizabeth in Florida

Hi Elizabeth, When did your Snows die? Maybe checking a death certificate will help. That would be fairly easy to do, especially if they died in Illinois. There are 25 Snow deaths listed on the Illinois Statewide Death Index. Theodore Wilbur is the last listing, died April 20, 1924. His death cert should state his place of birth. Just another limb, Laura search for fallen leaves at http://home.attbi.com/~branchingout ----- Original Message ----- From: Rea7669@aol.com To: ILKANE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: [ILKANE] Prof. O.T. Snow Dear listers, again my thanks for the information. I am trying to clear up another inconsistancy. Through a program on a library computer I was able to look up some census images and am now confused about birthplaces. I had thought that Prof. Snow's children were born in Illinois as it stated in the image I saw which listed him as head of household. Another image in which his son Theodore W. is listed as head says that he (T. W.) was born in Kentucky. In the 1930 images of T.W.'s son Oren T.'s household it is stated that the father was born in Kentucky. So I have 2 votes for Kentucky and one for Illinois and that one from the father of the individual in question. Elizabeth in Florida ==== ILKANE Mailing List ==== The companion web site for this list is found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilkane a part of the ILGenWeb Project.

Hi Listers: Does anyone recognize any of the following family. They would have moved to Aurora around 1912. 1 Joseph M. Atherton b: May 1858 in Luzerne Co., PA d: February 25, 1912 . +Etta M. Card b: May 1858 in Shabbona, DeKalb Co., IL . 2 Boyd C. Atherton b: April 1887 in IL . 2 Carl L. Atherton b: August 1889 in IL ..... +Bernice Ackley b: Abt. 1900 in IA ..... 3 Marion Atherton b: Abt. 1922 in Aurora, Kane Co., IL ..... 3 LaVerne Atherton b: 1925 in Aurora, Kane Co., IL Anne

Hi Listers: Does anyone recognize any of the following family. They would have moved to Aurora around 1912. 1 Joseph M. Atherton b: May 1858 in Luzerne Co., PA d: February 25, 1912 . +Etta M. Card b: May 1858 in Shabbona, DeKalb Co., IL . 2 Boyd C. Atherton b: April 1887 in IL . 2 Carl L. Atherton b: August 1889 in IL ..... +Bernice Ackley b: Abt. 1900 in IA ..... 3 Marion Atherton b: Abt. 1922 in Aurora, Kane Co., IL ..... 3 LaVerne Atherton b: 1925 in Aurora, Kane Co., IL Anne

Dear Susanne, Thank you so much. I think Cornelia might be one of mine. I'm not sure of the others, but Thomas W. is a possible. I' am also looking for info on O.T. 's brothers Corydon, Herman, and Hector. At least one of his sisters was also a teacher. Do you aslo have anything on his son Theodore Wilbur? Elizabeth in Fl.

Prof. O.T. Snow was the superintendent of the East Side Schools for four years, until he became the super. of the West Side Schools. In 1885 O.T. Snow was the Super. and the Principal of the West Side High School.............. References to the following Snow people can also be found in my books: Cornelia, Frank, Mary and Thomas W. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rea7669@aol.com> To: <ILKANE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: [ILKANE] Westside School > I have been looking for information about my gg-grandfather Oren Theodore > Snow who was supposed to have been principal of Batavia High School in > the 1800s. Is it possible that he was principal of Westside instead? He was > probably in the job after 1880 as the census simply gives his position as > school teacher. Elizabeth in Florida. > > > ==== ILKANE Mailing List ==== > You can contact the list administrator for this list by sending a > message to mailto:ILKANE-admin@rootsweb.com > >

In a message dated 4/8/2003 10:32:59 PM Central Daylight Time, cribbswh@gt.rr.com writes: The obit search engine that gets under-used is at http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/obit-grabbag.htm especially the "Obituary Search #2". I've been getting obits from many researchers over the last several years and now have about 85,000 online. Bill GenLookups.com http://www.genlookups.com Obituary Links Page http://www.obitlinkspage.com Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com Surname Search Utility http://surnames.obitlinkspage.com

My thanks to those who looked up the information about Westside School. Apparently Oren Theodore Snow was not Principal there. The information about his occupation came from "The History of North Bridgewater, Massachusetts" in a mention about Oren's father who was a graduate of Brown in a chapter which traced Bridgewater sons who had advanced education. Oren had a son Theodore Wilbur. I don't think I have an Ira or an Albert. My Snows came from Massahusetts by way of Michigan City, Indiana and 12 years in Madisonville, Kentucky before coming to Illinois. I believe there are at least two other Snow lines in Batavia. My Ekblad/Eckblade family in buried in West Batavia Cemetery, but I don't know about my Snows. Elizabeth in Florida

Subject: Interview First Kiss - howtos Part 3 of 4 THE ABSOLUTE BEST QUESTION for man or woman is (and be ready with your second question etc because the show is about to happen.....) is "WHEN DID YOU GET YOUR FIRST KISS?" It has never ever failed me. And here are a few off the top of my head....for each person you discuss in the interview....in no particular order I DO NOT EVER GIVE THE LIST AHEAD OF TIME! Ask their parents full names, place of birth, death and cemetery/church ask their full names, place of birth, church Ask their grandparents (all FOUR!) etc. Ask for listing of all the children......(then keep this for NEXT interview...) you will want them to have their address book at hand at the second interview......! Ask WHO is the oldest family person they knew themselves.... go into some detail about this oldest person...... ask if they have anything in their home that belonged to any of these people.... (then keep this for the next interview) when did meet your spouse... WHO are your children (then keep this for the next interview) you will want addresses, etc..... and their children etc. play a musical instrument. speak another language go to high school, where, til when, go to college or any type, did you ever have farm animals did anyone have a missing limb, failing eye sight regular cough, most scared time, most happy time, most difficult time travel outside of the state, the country biggest accomplishment in life describe a house in detail, desribe a homestead in detail talk about work, what was done, how arrived at that occupation, what was a daily activity like at work, was it a safe place What was SUNDAY like in the household....hour by hour.... What was SATURDAY like in the household...hour by hour.. Were you ever with anyone as they passed away, What were your thoughts on that.... What was the most important thing that you ever did to HELP another person. Were you ever in a war or military service... what was that like.... HOW did you actually get enlisted...step by step, WHERE did you enlist... What cemeteries did your family visit... and CHurches.... Did you ever travel by train, or airplane, horse Did you ever smoke a pipe(storebought or?), cigar(storebought or?), cigarette, rolled/storebought If you had an opportunity to have a different occupation, what would it have been If you had the opportunity to change anything in your life, what would it have been.... What did they do during the war effort.... When did they first drive a car....OFFICIALLY and un officially... How much was gas then... Did they pump gas themselves or was it pumped for them... what was the favorite brand... what kinds of cars did they own.... (as for a full list of these cars later....year, color, type, miles purchased new or not...) When did they smoke their first cigarette.... All of the WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN WHY...on this one... How much did they cost... When was the first time they smoked in front of a parent.... What did the parents say.... What brand..... Do they still smoke.... What brand. and how much.. ask, seriously and without judgment..... why do they smoke...have they thought of quitting... If you ask this seriously, you will get a serious answer... Just DO NOT PASS JUDGEMENT.... What kinds of things did they do on dates.. what were the best dates.. What was a typical date like...... Did they often double date.... who were the favorite actors, actresses, favorite movies... WHERE did they go to the movies... How much did they pay and what were the movies like compared to todays' movie house... Did they ever go to a play.... Have they ever ridden exotic animals...camels, elephants, and what was the occasion... Have they ever ridden in a hot air balloon....helicopter... and what was the occasion small plane, large ship... Who in the family was the first to go to a 4 year college...degree in what... Who was the first in the family to purchase a summer home.... What was the childhood home like... (as for a layout of the home and a sketch of the facade....as part of HOMEWORK! When was running water put in... Electricity... a toilet.... a telephone.... What were the days like when these were installed....Describe the day.... What kinds of chores were they responsible for as a child... If you lived on a farm... Sketch a layout of the farm..... Sketch the outline of your big barn...with special attention to the roof line.. Sketch the SILO and the shape of the dome area.... What kind of chores before school...after school.... Talk about anything relating to the SILO Was it poured cement, wood, ceramic, cement block... DO you remember when it was built... What can you tell about that group of days.... Talk about anything relating to the WINDMILL... talk about anything related to the BIG BARN What was the most dangerous thing you did on the farm... What did you get caught doing after you were told NOT TO DO IT? What kinds of tractors did you have. Did you ever drive a team of horses and for what purpose... What were you jobs during threshing.. Where did you take your milk.... Where did you purchase your groceries... Your, clothing, shoes....

Subject: Interview First Kiss - howtos Part 4 of 4 Where did you go to the DENTIST....Do you recall the first time... The Dentists name? Where did you go to get a professional photograph taken.... And on what occasions... Where did you purchase your wedding dress/suit.... Your wedding ring.... Did you jointly decide on wedding rings... What was your wedding day like...temp, kind of day, what were the festivities like... What was your proposal like...what were THE WORDS, THE ENVIRONMENT... What did your parents say when you told them.... What did you actually say when you told them.... How did you first meet... How soon before your first date and how soon before you married... Where did you first live as a couple....and then where.... Were you BORN at home or in a hospital... Were your children BORN in a hospital or at home... What did your childhood family grow on the farm as a cash crop... Did you have a vegetable stand... What were your responsibilities at the stand... How did your family get to church... What was different about church than today... What was the first television program that you saw... When did you first get a color television... a vcr... Do you know how to program the vcr or to fix the time... Do you have a CD player or cassette player or 8 track... Did you ever have an 8 track player... What is the last best movie that you saw.... Who is your favorite musical artist... When was the first time you were away from the childhood home.. When did you first get a microwave... What do you use it for mostly... When did you first buy a camera and why did you decide to buy it.. Do you have a computer that you use? What do you use it for... How did you learn to use it... When you were on the farm did you have animals.... Dairy? What kind of cows... And where did you take your milk What diary processed your milk.... Did you have geese, chickens, etc.. WHERE did you get the geese or ducks.. How did they get to your farm... Who were your best friends... Did they live near to the childhood home or near school... What was your hardest subject in school....easiest? WHO was your favorite teacher...subject, why... What color were your farm buildings and what was your silo made of... Did you ever smoke a pipe, cigar, cigarette.....Were any homemade... Who in the family is also a genealogist... Who in the family knows how to knit, crochet... How did they learn... Are any representative samples still around.... ASK about the saddest time in their lives..... BE SURE TO HAVE another question to follow this...perhaps: Did they ever smoke marijuana? And why was that? Did they have any pets... What happened when animals on the farm were sick.. When was the first time they drove a tractor? Did they ever break an arm or leg? or finger? Did their parent have all their fingers.. Do they know how the parent lost a finger - if appropro... Ask if anyone in the family had heart problems.. kidney problems... diabetes problems.... breathing problems... Heavy coughing, light coughing.... BAD snoring.... Ask WHEN these occurred in life...teens, 20's, 30's, 40's 50 hears old... The age is important here....it may help in determining for the future, whether these illnesses are part of environmental or hereditary reasons... make a note of these instances and time of life on your charts.. WHAT was Christmas morning like... How did you celebrate Birthdays... What did you wrap presents in... How did you celebrate HALLOWEEN.... HOW did you celebrate Thanksgiving.... What did you purchase for this meal and what did you have from the farm HOW did you get to grade school, to high school. At the second interview, ask them to get their photos out and their certificates, and all the stuff they have in their shoebox of old family stuff.... and use that as part of the second interview, along with the details of the OTHER parts of the family outline. This second interview is always the hardest because they are WORKING at remembering...so keep it shorter and set up a third visit..... start another video tape at each meeting....do not continue on the preceding tape... When you are done.be sure to make a copy..at least one. One for the interviewee,.one or two for your local library and maybe the historical society. Take that tab out of your original one AS SOON AS YOU TAKE IT FROM THE CAMERA.. to find this stuff again, check the roots archives with INTERACTIVE SEARCH Keyword KISS.. be prepared but ~ have fun... valentine

Subject: Interview First Kiss - howtos Part 2 of 4 I have done over 50 interviews... totallying over 200 hours... all these tricks work...keep yuour visit on film to about 2 hours, not longer...make a date inside a two week horizon to revisit. They will want you to come back! Cause you are now their newest FRIEND and visitor....(and you will WANT to go!) If you cannot get the Fletcher book, then get your own list together and KNOW it when you are at the interview.... Pretend you are Barbara Walters... BE PREPARED! Also have your tapes ready to slide into the machine....all unwrapped, etc. etc. etc. I don't give prepared questions to the interviewee ahead of time because the response would be too 'canned". What you want from the interview is the essence, the spontaneity of the answer..... You can, later, give them a family group sheet that you have prepared based on the interviewing that you have done so that they can put in the dates and places and so that they can get some help in doing it...almost like homework.... BUT specific dates on the video, at least in the first one, should not be your biggest reason for the interview... Getting an overview of the family and an overview of the places and environments that they have been in, I think, should be the main emphasis. Probably the most important thing to me is to get the video machine turned on asap so that the entire preparation time before the exact questioning is on the video...this is what makes this video document so valuable.... and it should not be edited. Do not try to edit as you are filming; it will ruin the effort... Keep this as your master for all time and 'clip' from it if you want to, but keep this as your source document... I have regularly interviewed one person at a time, even if a spouse exists.... It keeps the train of thought within one family ...... A second interview can be for the other spouse and the third can be with the both together. This combined interview can include stories about their married lives, about their children, about themselves... and the tape will show how they interact with each other. This is what you want, not just the dates... Dates you will be able to get.... Ask them to get their holy cards and news clips and obits out for you so that you can copy them for your project... "maybe they can get them for the next trip"...... Although you are interviewing ONE person, you could have a helper who knows the family along with YOU and who can also ask questions.... Just be sure that neither of you editorialize on the tape... The interviewer(s) should be interviewers not interviewees! So watch what you are saying if it is not a QUESTION.... I would forego the tape recorder.. now that video cameras are available and video tape is cheap.. You can get 8 hours 160 from target at about $2.00 a tape when you buy 8 of them at a time. use a VHS video camera and it will take pictures on a 160 tape for 2.5 hours. at SP. You might have a problem buying one now because the media has changed.. but just buy more of the ''tapes'' that you need for your machine and you're a GO. note.. 2.5 hours is more than enough time for one person to sit and talk. if you need more, then set up a second interview. be sure to go over some of the same questions again from the first tape and then go on with new ones. be sure, as you are have the info fresh in your mind to jot down some of the primary questions you want to get answered on the second trip.. later. cover the blinking light with electricians tape -without fail.. it drives even the best interviewee batty seeing it blink.... and start the machine recording as soon as you know where you will be doing the work... then never just say "okay now we will start".. just start! whether you actually have the person's face on the tape is not really important.their words can be on video tape. and almost everyone has a vcr of some type.but hardly anyone has a tape recorder.. I would suggest tho that you do include their personages on the tape for their mannerisms and the way some people talk with their hands is quite important. i cannot say enough times....TURN ON THE VIDEO camera as soon as you walk into the room or as soon as they walk into the room.. THe set up and getting ready is part of the whole aura. ALWAYS get their names.where they were born exactly. and their parents full names.. both of them.grandparents too. If they stumble on a question, go to another. IT IS NOT A TEST! have a good script. and try to have two people doing the interviewing... One as primary, one as secondary and working the cameral..Keep the camera backed up enough to cover more than just the persons face.perhaps their hands and what might be on the table. we always tape at their kitchen table or favorite chair. so find that comfortable place.. If on the table, then they might have photos. make sure that the photo that they are speaking about is briefly in the frame.. Go back afterward and do close ups after you are done talking. do not stop the thought process.. Ask, AS YOU ALL GET COMFORTABLE, in time "for the next trip", to get the personal telephone books out and those of their parents....