Thank you for the info. Would you perhaps know the name of his office? Or phone number? I have tried to find it and have not had any luck. Evelyn [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 06/03/2000 3:08:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << If there is anyone on this list > who is researching Hefners, or is named Hefner or knows someone who is > named Hefner would you please contact me even if you don't know the > names below? >> > > There is (unless he has recently left) a Alan Hefner M.D., an opthamalogist > who practices in St. Charles. Last I knew his offices were in a professional > park near Randall Rd and Dean Street. He had privileges at Delnor Community > Hospital. (I thought he was a fantastic doctor which is sure hard to find > sometimes.

Hi I go to Dr. Hefner. His office is St. Charles is located at 2210 Dean St. Suite L Best of luck...Julie >From: [email protected] (Evelyn Crowe) >Reply-to: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Thank you for the info. Would you perhaps know the name of his office? Or >phone >number? I have tried to find it and have not had any luck. >Evelyn > >[email protected] wrote: > >> In a message dated 06/03/2000 3:08:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> << If there is anyone on this list >> who is researching Hefners, or is named Hefner or knows someone who is >> named Hefner would you please contact me even if you don't know the >> names below? >> >> >> There is (unless he has recently left) a Alan Hefner M.D., an opthamalogist >> who practices in St. Charles. Last I knew his offices were in a professional >> park near Randall Rd and Dean Street. He had privileges at Delnor Community >> Hospital. (I thought he was a fantastic doctor which is sure hard to find >> sometimes. > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: <[email protected]> >Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) >by air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 22:49:36 -0400 >Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) >by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 22:49:04 -0400 >Received: (from [email protected]) > by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e542lju03351; > Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:47:45 -0700 >Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:47:45 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sat Jun 3 19:47:44 2000 >Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 22:45:12 -0700 >From: Evelyn Crowe <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [ILKANE] Hefner-Need Help Please >Old-To: [email protected] >Message-id: <[email protected]> >MIME-version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Accept-Language: en >References: <[email protected]> >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Resent-From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/784 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > Julie [email protected] ============================================================ "Dwell on the past, and you'll lose an eye. Ignore the past, and you'll lose both of them." Old Russian Proverb "What the Son wishes to forget, the Grandson wishes to remember." Marcus Lee Hansen

Sorry bout that. They were members of Batavia's Firtst Baptist Church. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

Chris, Can't comment on whether or not Dundee was largely a Prussian community, but my husband's family are all of German descent, almost all from Pommern or the former Prussia. All immigrated in the 1860's and 1870's. Some settled in Dundee, notably some of our Hopp family, but most ended up in Elgin or South Elgin...surnames Hopp and Volstorff. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILKANE] Carl Augustus Rosenthal, born in St James, MN 2/18/1904 Mary, Just curious: were Carl et al. from Pommern/Western Prussia? I ask because I have been researching several families in Dundee and Carpentersville, and it sure seems like it must have been a collection point for folks from Western Prussia. Many seemed to come from the Stralsund District. Anyone able to comment on my observation? I don't live in the area, and actually have never been able to travel there. During 1890-1920 or so were the Dundee and Carpentersville communities notably of German background? Or is that my imagination based on census records of those living near my relatives? Chris Researching: MELAHN, RAKOW, BARTELS, WASHER, SUND, WITT, DOSS, GRUEL

Hello Listers, I am new to the list and I really need some help. I am looking for members of my mothers side of my family. If there is anyone on this list who is researching Hefners, or is named Hefner or knows someone who is named Hefner would you please contact me even if you don't know the names below? My name is Evelyn Jumper Crowe, my mother and father were Willie Rose Hefner and Charley Jumper. Willie's parents were Tom Hefner and Pearl Farrow. Willie's brothers were Crim, Lewis, Seal (John), Belton, Willie's sisters were Donnie, Annie and Bobbie We know that Crim died in Aurora Kane Co. Illinois in 1978, so some of his children or grandchildren may still be in that area. Crim's wife's name was Savanah Balwin. We believe he had a daughter named Elisabeth. I grew up in Missouri and my families were from Mississippi. We believe the Hefners may have been from Illinois. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. Evelyn

In a message dated 06/03/2000 3:08:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << If there is anyone on this list who is researching Hefners, or is named Hefner or knows someone who is named Hefner would you please contact me even if you don't know the names below? >> There is (unless he has recently left) a Alan Hefner M.D., an opthamalogist who practices in St. Charles. Last I knew his offices were in a professional park near Randall Rd and Dean Street. He had privileges at Delnor Community Hospital. (I thought he was a fantastic doctor which is sure hard to find sometimes.

Hi everyone, I am new to this list. I am looking for information on the ancestors of my grandfather, Carl Augustus Rosenthal, born in St. James MN on February 18, 1904. His parents names were Otto Emil Rosenthal and Mary Hubb. Otto and Mary had four other children, Arthur, William, Ruth, and Alice. After Mary Hubb's death, Otto married Ruth "Rudy" Hubb. Together they had another 5 children: Mary, Joanne, Emil, Franklin, and Marty. Sometime after my grandfather's birth they moved to Illinois, eventually ending up in Kane County. Does anyone have any information on this line? This has been a brick wall for me for the last year. Thank you, Mary>:-) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Mary, Found a couple of possibilities.. Also asked my mother if she knew any Rosenthal's while growing up in Elgin (1925 - 1952) and she didn't know of any. CARL ROSENTHAL SSN 349-01-1366 Residence: 61731 Cropsey, Mc Lean, IL Born 18 Feb 1904 Last Benefit: Died Nov 1979 Issued: IL (Before 1951) Rosenthal, Carl A 1904- International Who's Who in Music and Musicians' Directory. Eighth edition. Cambridge: International Who's Who in Music, 1977. Earlier editions published as "Who's Who in Music and Musicians' International Directory". (IntWWM 77) International Who's Who in Music and Musicians' Directory. Ninth edition. Edited by Adrian Gaster. Cambridge: International Who's Who in Music, 1980. Earlier editions published as "Who's Who in Music and Musicians' International Directory". (IntWWM 80) Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary B Mansfield <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 12:20 PM Subject: [ILKANE] Carl Augustus Rosenthal, born in St James, MN 2/18/1904 > Hi everyone, I am new to this list. > > I am looking for information on the ancestors of my grandfather, Carl > Augustus Rosenthal, born in St. James MN on February 18, 1904. His > parents names were Otto Emil Rosenthal and Mary Hubb. Otto and Mary had > four other children, Arthur, William, Ruth, and Alice. > > After Mary Hubb's death, Otto married Ruth "Rudy" Hubb. Together they > had another 5 children: Mary, Joanne, Emil, Franklin, and Marty. > > Sometime after my grandfather's birth they moved to Illinois, eventually > ending up in Kane County. > > Does anyone have any information on this line? This has been a brick > wall for me for the last year. > > Thank you, > > Mary>:-) > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >

My grandfather, Charles Manahan was born in Dundee in November 1869. I have done no research on that line, but it is my understanding that his mother's maiden name was Rosenthal. Charles was living in Minneapolis in 1890, nine years before he married my grandmother. Maybe there is a connection here somewhere! Shirley Ann Minneapolis MN Researching: ECK***TOWLE***MANAHAN***ROSENTHAL

Mary, Just curious: were Carl et al. from Pommern/Western Prussia? I ask because I have been researching several families in Dundee and Carpentersville, and it sure seems like it must have been a collection point for folks from Western Prussia. Many seemed to come from the Stralsund District. Anyone able to comment on my observation? I don't live in the area, and actually have never been able to travel there. During 1890-1920 or so were the Dundee and Carpentersville communities notably of German background? Or is that my imagination based on census records of those living near my relatives? Chris Researching: MELAHN, RAKOW, BARTELS, WASHER, SUND, WITT, DOSS, GRUEL

I have a picture of The First Baptist Church. I believe it was the on that WAS located at 96 E Wilson St. The pic was taken in the 1930's. I asked several people while I visited the area a few months ago but no one could identify it. I also checked church books with pictures but this one was not in there. Several persons in my family were members of the E Wilson Church and I would like to find where their records may be stored. Can anyone help? I would be glad to email the picture to anyone interested. The picture reminds me of Wrigley Field Stadium but with large letters over an oval, concrete brim, surrounding the front, "First Baptist Church". __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

Debbie, There are several First Baptist Churches. What town would this one be located in? Thanks, Marcia DEBBIE MOBLEY wrote: > > I have a picture of The First Baptist Church. I > believe it was the on that WAS located at 96 E Wilson > St. The pic was taken in the 1930's. I asked several > people while I visited the area a few months ago but > no one could identify it. I also checked church books > with pictures but this one was not in there. Several > persons in my family were members of the E Wilson > Church and I would like to find where their records > may be stored. Can anyone help? I would be glad to > email the picture to anyone interested. The picture > reminds me of Wrigley Field Stadium but with large > letters over an oval, concrete brim, surrounding the > front, "First Baptist Church". > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com

I would enjoy seeing a picture.. I cant guarantee I would recognize the church, but .. lets see... Lorrie

Hi, all. Last year I posted a message asking for help in researching the Kane Co. land records. At that time, no on was able to help, so I thought I'd try again. The Kane Co. land records office in Geneva told me that research must be done in person, and I'm not able to travel to Illinois just to look at the land records. This is the first land office I've found that doesn't accept inquiries by mail. I am requesting a lookup in the grantee index that would include the years 1855-1857, during which time my g-g-grandparents, William and Rosanna O'BRIEN, bought land in Batavia. I would like a copy of the record of the purchase. I don't know the legal description of the land, but it should be listed in the purchase record and this should lead to finding a record of the land's sale, which I am also looking for. (The grantor index can be checked for 1860 to about 1880). These people 'disappear' after the 1860 census and I'm hoping finding out when the land was sold may provide some clues. Please email me if you can help, especially if you've done land record research before. Thank you. - K. B. O'Brien _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp

--part1_a7.45a6fd7.2667d0d3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just thought I would forward this to anyone with interests in genealogy.... Dawn In a message dated 6/1/00 9:31:28 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Of possible interest to those with WWII casualties in their family... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 30 May 2000 18:09:01 -0700 From: Renee Steinig <[email protected]> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.jewish Subject: ABMC web site lists American dead in WW2 The American Battle Monuments Commission, a US government agency responsible for operating 24 US military cemeteries abroad, lists online 172,218 Americans who lost their lives in World War II. This site, at http://www.usabmc.com/abmc45.htm, includes the names of 78,976 Missing in Action or lost or buried at sea and 93,242 buried at the ABMC-run cemeteries. It does not contain the names of the 233,181 Americans returned to the United States for burial. A name search produces a table of names with rank, serial number, date of death, and place of burial. Clicking on a name leads to a memorial page with additional information, such as the person's branch of service, unit, state in which he or she entered service, awards, and exact burial location or whether missing in action. See for example the memorial page for my mother-in-law's first cousin, Solamon Rosenbaum. (Ironically, Sol came to the US in the late 1930's from what was then Jasien in eastern Poland. He escaped the Shoah, in which the rest of his immediate family perished, only to die at Normandy.) The ABMC site has similar searchable listings for 33,714 World War I dead and for 37,333 Korean War dead. Further information is available by writing the American Battle Monuments Commission Courthouse Plaza II, Suite 500 2300 Clarendon Boulevard Arlington, VA 22201 Telephone (703) 696-6897 As others will probably mention, the book _American Jews in World War II_ lists the Jewish soldiers who were injured or died in the war. See the JewishGen archives for details in discussion threads in 1995 and 1997. The records which served as source data for the book are now held by the American Jewish Historical Society at NYC's Center for Jewish History, http://www.ajhs.org/ >> --part1_a7.45a6fd7.2667d0d3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:31:28 -0400 Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:31:02 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e51EUAq04136; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 07:30:10 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 07:30:10 -0700 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Jun 1 07:30:09 2000 Newsgroups: wny.freenet.genealogy.general Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:29:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Genealogy <[email protected]> Old-To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [NYERIE] ABMC web site lists American dead in WW2 (fwd) Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/2523 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-Mailer: Unknown Of possible interest to those with WWII casualties in their family... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 30 May 2000 18:09:01 -0700 From: Renee Steinig <[email protected]> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.jewish Subject: ABMC web site lists American dead in WW2 The American Battle Monuments Commission, a US government agency responsible for operating 24 US military cemeteries abroad, lists online 172,218 Americans who lost their lives in World War II. This site, at http://www.usabmc.com/abmc45.htm, includes the names of 78,976 Missing in Action or lost or buried at sea and 93,242 buried at the ABMC-run cemeteries. It does not contain the names of the 233,181 Americans returned to the United States for burial. A name search produces a table of names with rank, serial number, date of death, and place of burial. Clicking on a name leads to a memorial page with additional information, such as the person's branch of service, unit, state in which he or she entered service, awards, and exact burial location or whether missing in action. See for example the memorial page for my mother-in-law's first cousin, Solamon Rosenbaum. (Ironically, Sol came to the US in the late 1930's from what was then Jasien in eastern Poland. He escaped the Shoah, in which the rest of his immediate family perished, only to die at Normandy.) The ABMC site has similar searchable listings for 33,714 World War I dead and for 37,333 Korean War dead. Further information is available by writing the American Battle Monuments Commission Courthouse Plaza II, Suite 500 2300 Clarendon Boulevard Arlington, VA 22201 Telephone (703) 696-6897 As others will probably mention, the book _American Jews in World War II_ lists the Jewish soldiers who were injured or died in the war. See the JewishGen archives for details in discussion threads in 1995 and 1997. The records which served as source data for the book are now held by the American Jewish Historical Society at NYC's Center for Jewish History, http://www.ajhs.org/ Renee Renee Steinig Dix Hills, New York [email protected] ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi --part1_a7.45a6fd7.2667d0d3_boundary--

Illinois http://www.library.uiuc.edu/max/sanborn.shtml Check this out! Fire Insurance maps. Some from the 1800s. There are also other states that have maps, and other libraries that carry the films. Debbie Looking for GAHAN in Elgin

Tim, Please look for yourself at the Dekalb county web page for the cemetery listing.. Pierce twp. St. Mary's Cemetery. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildekalb/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [ILKANE] St. Mary's Cemetery > Is there a Dominic Boyle in that Cemetery? Died ca.1862, Catholic. > Thanks > Tim Boyle > >

Is there a Dominic Boyle in that Cemetery? Died ca.1862, Catholic. Thanks Tim Boyle

On Mon, 29 May 2000 Janet wrote in part: >Tom, > >Don't know if this will lead anywhere.. Virgil is next to Dekalb County >where I grew up. There is listed a John and Anne Costello with no birth or >death dates at........ Thanks very, very much! I knew Maple Park was very near Dekalb County, but apparently it's closer than I realized! I think you may very well have found my grandparent's graves, although it will take some more investigation to be sure. I do not recognize the Costello children (probably actually grandchildren) who are buried there, but it was a large family. I would appreciate it if you would make an "on site" inspection if you can find the time when you return to the DeKalb/Maple Park area. And if there are gravestones and you can take a picture or two I'd be happy to underwrite the cost (maybe one of the church as well, since it must be near). It's somewhat puzzling to me that the church's former pastor did not mention the existence of the cemetery. I think I'll write the present one and see what he can tell me. Again, my thanks. Tom Johnston [email protected]

Tom, Don't know if this will lead anywhere.. Virgil is next to Dekalb County where I grew up. There is listed a John and Anne Costello with no birth or death dates at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildekalb/Cemeteries/StMaryA_E.htm Here is a description of the Cemetery and the associated link: St. Mary's Cemetery History INTRODUCTION ST. MARY'S CATHOLIC CEMETERY is located on County Line road south of Maple Park, Illinois in Section 1 Township 39 North Range 5 East. The cemetery is on the west side of County Line road with two driveways secured with gates. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ildekalb/Cemeteries/StMaryHome.htm I will be moving back to Sycamore(Dekalb co), Illinois (from California) shortly and might be able to stop by the cemetery... Janet Pearson ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas W. Johnston, Jr. <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 1:56 PM Subject: [ILKANE] Cemeteries > I am looking from afar for the burial place of my great-grandparents, John > and Anne (nee Quinlan) Costello. They were long-time members of the Church > of St. Mary in Maple Park. In 1993 the then pastor told me that the church > records indicated Anne died 16 December 1913 and was buried 19 December > 1913, but the record didn't say where. Apparently there were no records of > death kept by the church prior to 1913, so there is no record for John, who > predeceased Anne by some years. I have tried to locate death certificates, > to no avail. > > Recently, I learned that St, Mary's has a cemetery. Does anyone know is > there are records of interments, and where they might be located? I'm > assuming that the church itself does not have records, or they would have > been mentioned at the time of my earlier inquiry. > > If Anne and John are not buried at St. Mary's, I assume they would have > been buried (as Roman Catholics) in consecrated ground elsewhere; I > understand that there is a Sts. Peter & Paul Cemetery in Virgil Township - > is that near Maple Park? > > Thanks in advance for any enlightenment. > > > Tom Johnston > [email protected] > >