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    1. Warren Cemetery
    2. Can anyone tell me if you can find this cemetery using these directions: Warren Cemetery, Section 6, Grantsburg Township, Johnson County, Illinois Located west of Concord Cumberland Presbyterian Church and north of Ill. 146. To reach Warren Cemetery go east of Ill. 146 to the Concord Church Road, about 5 miles from the junction of US 45 and Ill. 146 in Vienna. Turn north onto the Concord Church Road and go about .1 to .2 miles. The cemetery is located in a grove of trees west of the Concord Church Road. Thanks, Susan

    03/05/2006 05:26:12
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Re: kerley
    2. In a message dated 3/5/2006 3:05:47 PM Central Standard Time, cjohn@tznet.com writes: Came in a little late on this KERLEY query. I have a Lyda E. EMERY b. ca. 1862 Henry Co.TN m.10 Jul 1883 Johnson Co.IL to John C. KERLEY b. ca. 1860 Pope Co.IL > That isn't John Calvin Kerley is it????? Thanks Mara

    03/05/2006 03:55:47
    1. Little Egypt Heritage, The Newspaper, 5 March 2006, Vol 5 #09
    2. Bill
    3. Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois © Bill Oliver 5 March 2006 Vol 5 Issue: #09 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, In reading old newspapers and background material about newspapers, I spotted some quotes that I liked [found at www.historicpages.com/uprhist.htm: /"Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."/ -Thomas Jefferson, 1787. /"For my part I entertain a high idea of the utility of periodical publications; insomuch as I could heartily desire, copies of ... magazines, as well as common Gazettes, might be spread through every city, town, and village in the United States. I consider such vehicles of knowledge more happily calculated than any other to preserve the liberty, stimulate the industry, and ameliorate the morals of a free and enlightened people."/- George Washington, 1788. /"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech or of the press..."/ -Article One, Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution, 1789. /"Here is the living disproof of the old adage that nothing is as dead as yesterday's newspaper... This is what really happened, reported by a free press to a free people. It is the raw material of history; it is the story of our own times."/ -Henry Steel Commager, preface to a history of the New York Times, 1951 The /"daily diary of the American dream"/ - The Wall Street Journal. Newspapers usually serve a geographic area, with orientation toward particular ethnic, cultural, social, or political groups, with birth, marriage, and death records the most sought after information by genealogical researchers. They can furnish both additional information from official documents and also substitute for official documents where official documents no longer exist. Though "newspapers" or what became newspapers have been around since the 1400s, the first newspaper in what became the United States appeared in Boston in 1690. The "Publick Occurrences", as it was entitled, was suppressed and its publisher arrested. The "Boston NewsLetter", produced by the then postmaster John Campbell in 1704 is considered the first "successful" newspaper. By the end of the American Revolution there were forty-three newspapers. The Fourth Estate of that day played a large role in the life of the new nation. The journalism of that day was far more lively and libelous than is allowed today. The ratification of the Bill of Rights in 1791 guaranteed the freedom of the press and newspapers in this country took on a large role in the daily national affairs of this country. By 1814 there were about 350 newspapers and as advances in printing and papermaking occured by the 1830s there emerged what is known as the "Penny Press". It was then possible to produce newspaper copy for a penny a copy. At this time, newspapers were affordable to more than the wealthy, literate minority. This grand availability of cheap affordable reading material was the singular stimulus to the high universal literacy of the American pupulace. The American industrial revolution continued to affect the numbers of papers and their paid circulations; by 1850 there were more than 2500. With the presses able to produce ten thousand editions per hour the first "pictorial" weeklies emerged furnishing illustrations of events in the news. These illustrations at first were wood cuts; however, soon the invention of photography aided the unprecedented demand for timely, accurate news reporting of the Civil War. Reporters during this period were called "specials" and were looked upon by the public as idols and heroes for reporting first hand accounts of battles. From this time forward, newspaper reporters have been thought of as intrepid adventurers and idolized. By the 1880s the numbers of different papers rose to over eleven thousand and by the 1890s circulation figures in the millions of copies per issue were recorded. Sadly, these papers were not preserved due to the extremely poor quality of the paper. The World War II era paper drives further contributed to the lack of preserved copies. During the 1910s, newspapers had added many of the features that we are familiar with in our modern day papers; "banner" headlines, extensive use of illustrations, the "funnies" pages, and expanded coverage of organized sports events. During this period there was the rise of what became known as "yellow journalism", or public opinion manufacturing. Following the Spanish American War in late 1898, there occurred consolidation of independent newspapers into powerful "chains". This move ceased to foster the once fearless and incorruptible press. These chains of newspapers became vehicles for the distribution of the wills of their owners, without the challenging competition of different viewpoints. In the time of many of us, radio and television gradually became the primary information sources, clouding the role newspapers have played in our history. News reporting has continued to radically change. News reporting of wars from WWI through the present day Middle East actions have been complicated by media development from radio to the modern internet blogs. Once, in history, the format and content of newspaper front pages consisted of advertisements and news of a national character. Media coverage today has fostered more on local news headlines. Photographs have appeared more frequently and tabloid forms have given the newspaper a more popular appeal and easier readability. /"People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to their ancestors"./- [Edmund Burke, 1729-1797] This quote was found on the internet at <theoldentimes.com/ads.html>, the section of "The Olden Times Genealogy & Local History" site. There are some bits of historic newspapers online, but be aware for all its various categories it also contains commercial sites for many different items. e-la-Di-e-das-Di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) and Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: Other sites worth visiting: http://www.deannedurrett.com/codetalkers.html PostScript: = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

    03/05/2006 12:07:06
    1. Nancy Aldridge Lane Vienna Illinois
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Aldridge, Lane, Ketch, Campbell, Stickley, Ridley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1054 Message Board Post: Can anyone do a death lookup? She died in 1864 wife of Tidence. I would like to know where she is buried. JoAnn Lane Stickley

    03/05/2006 08:54:06
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Re: kerley
    2. Carol
    3. "Sorry but no Emery married to a Kerley." >Came in a little late on this KERLEY query. I have a Lyda E. EMERY b. ca. 1862 Henry Co.TN m.10 Jul 1883 Johnson Co.IL to John C. KERLEY b. ca. 1860 Pope Co.IL > > Ref: Johnson County IL Early Marriages 1878-1885 Vol II >Don't know who I'm trying to help . . .but, hope it helps! > > Cheers, Carol

    03/05/2006 08:04:30
    1. Re: Smith-Kinslow marriage licence.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1051.1.2 Message Board Post: Not directly related to the kinslows--only through marriage. However, I am in contact with someone who is. If you want information on that person--let me know c.lane

    03/05/2006 04:13:27
    1. Re: kerley
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/178.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry but no Emery married to a Kerley.

    03/04/2006 11:27:29
    1. RE: [ILJOHNSO] obit look up
    2. Remy James-cjr020
    3. Lisa, I don't have access to this obituary, but may be interested to also receive a copy. Do you have any more information on Charles? Are you related? I have a C.A. Walker, son of my GGG grandfather, John Norrel Walker, but have no other information than he was born abt 1871. Best wishes, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Hudgens [mailto:lhudgens@bak.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 7:15 AM To: ILJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILJOHNSO] obit look up I am looking for an obit that was printed in the Vienna times Thursday, 25 July 1957 for Charles A. Walker. The paper is printed on the inside cover of a book that I have and would like a copy that I can read. I would be willing to pay for the lookup and the amount of copying. Thanks Lisa Hudgens lhudgens@bak.rr.com ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

    03/04/2006 09:18:15
    1. SHORT, WARINER OR WARREN
    2. Charlotte E Flock
    3. I'm looking for a marriage record of William B. Short, his middle name could be Boyd married to Caroline Wariner or Warren. His only child, Charles McPherson Short's death certificate mentions his parents. The close that I can figure out that William probably got married in the late 60's but no later then 1872, because that's when Charles McPherson Short was born. I have not been able to place him on the 1870 census. So I want to think that he was married after 1870 but no later then 1872. If you happen to have a marriage record book on hand could you please check the index. I have already check the IRA site and could find nothing. Charlotte

    03/03/2006 11:00:01
    1. Re: "Elder" James Jones Will -husband of Matlaid Watson & Elizabeth White
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones, Riley, Culbertson, Douglas, Sharp, May, Little, Copeland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1053.1 Message Board Post: I do have some probate records on Elder James Jones will when he actually died in 1840. Elizabeth and sons Henry & Milton Jones came into court and entered their letters of administration. I states that the 25th of Sep. 1840 is the date of death (on or about) for Elder James. It says that James died "intestate" (which I always believed meant without a will?). I will try to work on this and get it posted. I also have Henry Jones Will who was a son to Elder James. Henry's will is also in Johnson Co., IL.

    03/03/2006 08:26:02
    1. obit look up
    2. Lisa Hudgens
    3. I am looking for an obit that was printed in the Vienna times Thursday, 25 July 1957 for Charles A. Walker. The paper is printed on the inside cover of a book that I have and would like a copy that I can read. I would be willing to pay for the lookup and the amount of copying. Thanks Lisa Hudgens lhudgens@bak.rr.com

    03/03/2006 08:15:22
    1. "Elder" James Jones Will -husband of Matlaid Watson & Elizabeth White
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones, Henderson, Riley, Sharp, Culbertson, Douglas, May, Little, Copeland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1053 Message Board Post: Will of “Elder” Jame Jones in Johnson Co., IL - Pg. 129 (as transcribed by Karen Riley Hall 3-03-2006) E-mail dkhall85@netscape.com In the name of God I being in good health and in my proper senses yet life being uncertain when it shall please God to remove me from this world I give and resign my soul body and spirit into his hands, I also give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Elizabeth all my personal property also the use of the plantation whereon we now live with a ll the appurtenances there unto belonging for the purpose of her comfortable support and to raise and school her children which thing I wish not to be neglected and that as they grow up a strict account be kept of the amount of property they recieve as has been done heretofor – which accounts stands as follows, to wit, Henry Jones $ 88, James Jones $ 60, Bennett Jones $ 89 – Milton Jones $ 50, William Jones $ 50 all this to be reducted out of their legacy the same rule I wish to be observed with the rest of the children __ The property bequeathed to my beloved Elizabeth to be hers whilst she lives or remains my widow af! ter which time and the paying of all just debts the property to be sold and an equal distribution to be made lawful and just This is my will and testament this 27th of November 1832 James Jones

    03/03/2006 08:12:03
    1. Re: George Washington Copeland
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones, Copeland, White, Riley, Sharp, Douglas, Little, Henderson, Culbertson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1016.1 Message Board Post: Have you checked in Massac Co.? Or the Copeland-Little book ? I checked for your G.W. Copeland and all I found on pg. 40 of the Copeland-Little book was a George W born Aug 12, 1859 Massac Co., IL and d Oct. 13, 1866, Massac Co., IL and is buried at Lower Salem Cem. in Massac Co., IL. Since this isn't yours you may still find a lot of your Copeland's in Massac County. Just thought this might help. Karen

    03/03/2006 08:06:00
    1. Re: John May, spouses Sarah Branchcombe, Elizabeth Rushing, Anna Hines
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: May, Culbertson, Palmer, Riley, Sharp, Jones, Douglas, Little, Copeland, Simpson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1029.1 Message Board Post: John May was probably a son of Holden and Jane Palmer May. There is a lot of information on the May family in Massac/Johnson Co. IL that Norma Jean Huss or George May did work on. Unfortunately both are now deseased but the books are at the Massac County Library. You may try to contact them or look up information in on the Massac Co., IL website. I will look in my books and see if I can find more. My mother is a descendant of Holden and Jane Palmer May and the family usually has a reunion at the Fort Massac State Park in Metropolis every summer. Hope this helps. You can contact me at dkhall85@netscape.com

    03/03/2006 07:52:53
    1. Re: Simpson
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones, White, Watson, Henderson, Riley, Sharp, Culbertson, Copeland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1045.2 Message Board Post: Bert, After looking at the book Some Copeland and Little Families written by A.Lucille Harney & Fairline Bigley I looked up the Simpson family on pg 40 and it says the children of William Simpson and Polly Jones: i -William Simpson b Detroit, Wayne Co., MI; Maried Kezia Parmley ii-Jackson Simpson b Lexington, KY; d. 1864 Johnson Co., IL; Married Elizabeth Shearer b. 1804, d. 1846 iii- Amanda Simpson; Mar. Thomas Jones, son of the pioneer, James Jones (bio. review of Johnson, Massac, Pope & Hardin Co., IL,p. 302) *From Pg. 41 of the same book here is the information on the family and children of Amanda Simpson and Thomas Jones: i- John Monroe Jones, Married Mariah Rose. Their ch.: 1- James Monroe Jones mar. Venie Abney ( dh: Ethel Jones mar. Otto Murrie), 2-Mimple Jones, 3-Olive Jones, 4-Pleasant Jones, 5-Frank Jones, 6-Charles Jones, 7-Herschel Jones, 8-Maude Jones ii-Frances Marian Jones iii-Elizabeth Jane Jones iv-Sidney Clarissa Jones v-Franklin Morris Jones vi-Mary Ann Jones vii-Thomas Wesley Jones viii-Barila Isabell Jones ix-Juliet Susanna Jones * The source sited in this book for the above information is Mrs. P.T. Chapman, History of Johnson Co., IL; pp. 173, 237, 357. And the other source is descendant, Golda (Weaver) Helmig, RR. 3, Metropolis, IL. If you would like I can scan the pages your interested in out of this book. I have a copy and would be glad to do it. I have a picture of Thomas and possibly Amanda's grave that I made in Oct. 2005 when I visited the Oliver cemetery in Johnson Co., IL.

    03/03/2006 07:40:51
    1. Re: Jones
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones, White, Henderson, Riley, Sharp, Douglas, Copeland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1047.1 Message Board Post: Bert, I too am related to the "Elder" James Jones and Elizabeth White but I have data that says they were married 28 Oct 1807 in Adair Co., KY and I have multiple items that will state the same. I have Elizabeth's father as Henry White. Do you? I will post more at a later date. I have James and Elizabeths wills found in Johnson Co and more data to share later. I have another email address you can use at dkhall85@netscape.com Karen

    03/03/2006 05:13:05
    1. Re: Smith-Kinslow marriage licence.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1051.1.1 Message Board Post: only indirectly related. However, I hae picked up some information on them and KNOW of a direct decendent of John a. Kinslow. Would be lad to help if needed c. Lane

    03/02/2006 11:35:58
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Elvira Twp. Map?
    2. Louise Erekson
    3. Bob was worried you wouldn't get all three of the info he sent... thanks for answering! I got out a magnifying glass and with it, I was able to read most of the names on the map... you might try that!!! Also, you mention about the depot.... In 2000 the Johnson County Genealogical and Historical Society published a calendar for 2000 of railroad depots in Johnson Co.... if you don't have that address, write me again and I'll send it to you... I've belonged to that society for several years. You might like to know there is a Reevesville, IL railroad depot in it also... so if you don't get the calendar.. let me know and Bob will send you a picture from our calendar. All my ancestors, maternal and paternal were in Johnson Co. or Union Co, IL by 1860... many were there before the state was formed.... so I am a 'southern IL' person..... some of the names I am related to; Greer, Lowery, Bear, Colboth, Choate, McIntosh etc..... my parents left Cypress, IL in early 1929... we moved to Aurora, IL and I lived there till my husband and I moved to Billings, MT in 1968..... [maybe you've figured out, I'm 81] Good luck with your research... Louise

    03/02/2006 04:19:07
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Re: kerley
    2. Louise Erekson
    3. John C. Kerley married Lyda E. Emery in Johnson Co., IL 10 July 1883 ----- Original Message ----- From: <tameroa@hotmail.com> To: <ILJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Re: kerley > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Kerley/Wood/Emery/Markham > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2g.2ADE/178.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > do you have a kerley married 1883 or 85 to a Emery girl? If so do you know what family he was from? > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > timcasey1@verizon.net > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/272 - Release Date: 3/1/06 > >

    03/02/2006 03:12:12
    1. Re: Smith-Kinslow marriage licence.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: smith-kinslow Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2g.2ADE/1051.1 Message Board Post: I seen your posting, i don't have lic. app., but this john adam kinslow was a brother to robert newton kinslow who was my great grandfather. Are you related to the kinslows.

    03/02/2006 01:59:37