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    1. [ILJOHNSO] Edwards / Ward/Copland/Copeland
    2. Debbie & Jim McArdle
    3. John, no, I don't have that book. Does it offer any other WARD information other than that Anna Ward married John Short Copland in 1835? Is there any indication the Ward and Copland families knew each other before coming to Johnson County, Illinois? Thanks for telling me about this book, and I look forward to receiving your reply. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hines To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards / Ward Debbie; Do you have the Book on the Copelands and Little Families? By A.Lucille Harney and Fairline Bigley! John PS: They are kin to me also! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards / Ward > Yeh! My maiden name was Debbie Ward. My Dad was born in Karnak, but his great aunt was Anna Ward Copeland Calhoon, one of the very first settlers of Vienna. His great uncle, Pleasant Ward was one of the earliest merchants in Vienna. No doubt your ancestors and mine were acquaintances. Interesting to think about how we have met on the internet - an invention they would never have been able to dream of - and here we are kind of "re-connected". Nice to meet you. Good luck with your research. Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dmb1957 > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, IL > > > Debbie: > I haven't gotten to far in my research.I do know that my great-grandparents > came from Vienna in Johnson county.George William and Sarah Armstrong > Edwards and Winslow and Sallie Lovens(Lovins).That is all that I have on > them. > Thank you for answering. > Debbie Edwards Bibbs > PS.I think that it is kinda neat...we both have the same first name!..lol. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM > Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, > IL > > > > Debbie: > > > > My direct Edwards line did not live in Belknap until 1916 when my > Great-Grandfather, Finas Newton Edwards died. He was buried in the cemetery > there -gravestone still stands. However, we may still connect in a > different way which you will see at the end of this letter. > > > > Finas' widow was enumerated on the 1920 census, living with her daughter's > family: > > 1920, 13 January: Federal Census, Johnson County, Illinois, Cache > Township, "Belknap Village" > > Family #119: > > Ward, Harve, 24, married, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois, > Laborer, Timber & Farm > > Ward, Hazel, 19, born Indiana, mother and father born Illinois > > Ward, Harvey O., 1-11/12, born Illinois, father born Illinois, mother born > Indiana > > Edwards, Edith, Mother-in-law, 64, widow, born Illinois, mother and father > born Illinois. > > > > Edith Edwards' son, Fred Alva Edwards, and maybe another son Tom Edwards, > were living in Belknap already. I think she went to live with them once her > husband died. None of the names you listed appear in my database. > > > > We may connect in a different way, however. My great-grandfather's > youngest brother, McCollister (aka "Mack" or "Collie") had a son, Willis, > who was living in Johnson County. 24 November 1910, Willis A. Edwards of > Bloomfield, Johnson County, Illinois, Laborer, 22, born in White County, > Illinois, son of Mack Collister and Emma Edwards, marries Mary E. Rion, 18 > born Johnson County, Illinois, daughter of William Rion of Bloomfield, > Illinois. Willis would have been a cousin to Tom and Fred Edwards. All of > them had been fromWhite County, Illinois. I think the attraction in Belknap > was the lumbering & box- building and some of them worked, I think, at Main > Bros. Box and Lumber just across the county line in Karnak - a hop, skip and > jump from Belknap. Maybe the other Edwards there were cousins too? Can you > trace any of your Edwards to White County, Illinois (circa 1850); Muhlenberg > County, Kentucky (circa 1835); or Wilson County, Tennessee (circa 1800)? > Let me know if y! > > ou see any connection. Thanks for writing. > > > > Debbie McArdle > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: dmb1957 > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > Hi Debbie...I am researching my dad's family.I noticed that you have > Edwards > > listed.I am an Edwards. > > My dad is James Homer Edwards..b.Feb.20,1929..d.March 20,1999. > > His dad,James Henry Edwards...b.Nov.26,1887 in Belknap,Illinois...d > March > > 30,1963. > > His mom,Gracie Belle Carter Edwards....b May 26,1893 in Belknap....d > July > > 12,1946. > > Do these names sound familiar to you? > > Thank you, > > Debbie Edwards Bibbs > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > > Virginia, yes, he is the same person. He is not related, as it turns > out, > > to the Morses of Massac County, Illinois. Are you researching the > Morses of > > that area? Debbie McArdle (researching Edwards, Ward, Hazel, Beggs, > Morse, > > Ledbetter in Pope, Massac, Johnson & Pulaski Counties, Illinois) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Virginia Flesher > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > > > > Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive > Branch, > > MS? > > > That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with > him > > > several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. > > > > > > At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having > > mutations > > > >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in > the > > > >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines > > connect. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

    09/11/2003 02:27:15
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards / Ward
    2. John Hines
    3. Debbie; Do you have the Book on the Copelands and Little Families? By A.Lucille Harney and Fairline Bigley! John PS: They are kin to me also! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards / Ward > Yeh! My maiden name was Debbie Ward. My Dad was born in Karnak, but his great aunt was Anna Ward Copeland Calhoon, one of the very first settlers of Vienna. His great uncle, Pleasant Ward was one of the earliest merchants in Vienna. No doubt your ancestors and mine were acquaintances. Interesting to think about how we have met on the internet - an invention they would never have been able to dream of - and here we are kind of "re-connected". Nice to meet you. Good luck with your research. Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dmb1957 > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, IL > > > Debbie: > I haven't gotten to far in my research.I do know that my great-grandparents > came from Vienna in Johnson county.George William and Sarah Armstrong > Edwards and Winslow and Sallie Lovens(Lovins).That is all that I have on > them. > Thank you for answering. > Debbie Edwards Bibbs > PS.I think that it is kinda neat...we both have the same first name!..lol. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM > Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, > IL > > > > Debbie: > > > > My direct Edwards line did not live in Belknap until 1916 when my > Great-Grandfather, Finas Newton Edwards died. He was buried in the cemetery > there -gravestone still stands. However, we may still connect in a > different way which you will see at the end of this letter. > > > > Finas' widow was enumerated on the 1920 census, living with her daughter's > family: > > 1920, 13 January: Federal Census, Johnson County, Illinois, Cache > Township, "Belknap Village" > > Family #119: > > Ward, Harve, 24, married, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois, > Laborer, Timber & Farm > > Ward, Hazel, 19, born Indiana, mother and father born Illinois > > Ward, Harvey O., 1-11/12, born Illinois, father born Illinois, mother born > Indiana > > Edwards, Edith, Mother-in-law, 64, widow, born Illinois, mother and father > born Illinois. > > > > Edith Edwards' son, Fred Alva Edwards, and maybe another son Tom Edwards, > were living in Belknap already. I think she went to live with them once her > husband died. None of the names you listed appear in my database. > > > > We may connect in a different way, however. My great-grandfather's > youngest brother, McCollister (aka "Mack" or "Collie") had a son, Willis, > who was living in Johnson County. 24 November 1910, Willis A. Edwards of > Bloomfield, Johnson County, Illinois, Laborer, 22, born in White County, > Illinois, son of Mack Collister and Emma Edwards, marries Mary E. Rion, 18 > born Johnson County, Illinois, daughter of William Rion of Bloomfield, > Illinois. Willis would have been a cousin to Tom and Fred Edwards. All of > them had been fromWhite County, Illinois. I think the attraction in Belknap > was the lumbering & box- building and some of them worked, I think, at Main > Bros. Box and Lumber just across the county line in Karnak - a hop, skip and > jump from Belknap. Maybe the other Edwards there were cousins too? Can you > trace any of your Edwards to White County, Illinois (circa 1850); Muhlenberg > County, Kentucky (circa 1835); or Wilson County, Tennessee (circa 1800)? > Let me know if y! > > ou see any connection. Thanks for writing. > > > > Debbie McArdle > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: dmb1957 > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > Hi Debbie...I am researching my dad's family.I noticed that you have > Edwards > > listed.I am an Edwards. > > My dad is James Homer Edwards..b.Feb.20,1929..d.March 20,1999. > > His dad,James Henry Edwards...b.Nov.26,1887 in Belknap,Illinois...d > March > > 30,1963. > > His mom,Gracie Belle Carter Edwards....b May 26,1893 in Belknap....d > July > > 12,1946. > > Do these names sound familiar to you? > > Thank you, > > Debbie Edwards Bibbs > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > > Virginia, yes, he is the same person. He is not related, as it turns > out, > > to the Morses of Massac County, Illinois. Are you researching the > Morses of > > that area? Debbie McArdle (researching Edwards, Ward, Hazel, Beggs, > Morse, > > Ledbetter in Pope, Massac, Johnson & Pulaski Counties, Illinois) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Virginia Flesher > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > > > > Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive > Branch, > > MS? > > > That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with > him > > > several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. > > > > > > At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having > > mutations > > > >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in > the > > > >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines > > connect. > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > >

    09/10/2003 06:54:05
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Edwards / Ward
    2. Debbie & Jim McArdle
    3. Yeh! My maiden name was Debbie Ward. My Dad was born in Karnak, but his great aunt was Anna Ward Copeland Calhoon, one of the very first settlers of Vienna. His great uncle, Pleasant Ward was one of the earliest merchants in Vienna. No doubt your ancestors and mine were acquaintances. Interesting to think about how we have met on the internet - an invention they would never have been able to dream of - and here we are kind of "re-connected". Nice to meet you. Good luck with your research. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: dmb1957 To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, IL Debbie: I haven't gotten to far in my research.I do know that my great-grandparents came from Vienna in Johnson county.George William and Sarah Armstrong Edwards and Winslow and Sallie Lovens(Lovins).That is all that I have on them. Thank you for answering. Debbie Edwards Bibbs PS.I think that it is kinda neat...we both have the same first name!..lol. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, IL > Debbie: > > My direct Edwards line did not live in Belknap until 1916 when my Great-Grandfather, Finas Newton Edwards died. He was buried in the cemetery there -gravestone still stands. However, we may still connect in a different way which you will see at the end of this letter. > > Finas' widow was enumerated on the 1920 census, living with her daughter's family: > 1920, 13 January: Federal Census, Johnson County, Illinois, Cache Township, "Belknap Village" > Family #119: > Ward, Harve, 24, married, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois, Laborer, Timber & Farm > Ward, Hazel, 19, born Indiana, mother and father born Illinois > Ward, Harvey O., 1-11/12, born Illinois, father born Illinois, mother born Indiana > Edwards, Edith, Mother-in-law, 64, widow, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois. > > Edith Edwards' son, Fred Alva Edwards, and maybe another son Tom Edwards, were living in Belknap already. I think she went to live with them once her husband died. None of the names you listed appear in my database. > > We may connect in a different way, however. My great-grandfather's youngest brother, McCollister (aka "Mack" or "Collie") had a son, Willis, who was living in Johnson County. 24 November 1910, Willis A. Edwards of Bloomfield, Johnson County, Illinois, Laborer, 22, born in White County, Illinois, son of Mack Collister and Emma Edwards, marries Mary E. Rion, 18 born Johnson County, Illinois, daughter of William Rion of Bloomfield, Illinois. Willis would have been a cousin to Tom and Fred Edwards. All of them had been fromWhite County, Illinois. I think the attraction in Belknap was the lumbering & box- building and some of them worked, I think, at Main Bros. Box and Lumber just across the county line in Karnak - a hop, skip and jump from Belknap. Maybe the other Edwards there were cousins too? Can you trace any of your Edwards to White County, Illinois (circa 1850); Muhlenberg County, Kentucky (circa 1835); or Wilson County, Tennessee (circa 1800)? Let me know if y! > ou see any connection. Thanks for writing. > > Debbie McArdle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dmb1957 > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:03 AM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > Hi Debbie...I am researching my dad's family.I noticed that you have Edwards > listed.I am an Edwards. > My dad is James Homer Edwards..b.Feb.20,1929..d.March 20,1999. > His dad,James Henry Edwards...b.Nov.26,1887 in Belknap,Illinois...d March > 30,1963. > His mom,Gracie Belle Carter Edwards....b May 26,1893 in Belknap....d July > 12,1946. > Do these names sound familiar to you? > Thank you, > Debbie Edwards Bibbs > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > Virginia, yes, he is the same person. He is not related, as it turns out, > to the Morses of Massac County, Illinois. Are you researching the Morses of > that area? Debbie McArdle (researching Edwards, Ward, Hazel, Beggs, Morse, > Ledbetter in Pope, Massac, Johnson & Pulaski Counties, Illinois) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Virginia Flesher > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive Branch, > MS? > > That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with him > > several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. > > > > At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: > > >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having > mutations > > >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in the > > >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines > connect. > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Do not send Virus warnings to this list. "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" [email protected]

    09/10/2003 07:53:50
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, IL
    2. dmb1957
    3. Debbie: I haven't gotten to far in my research.I do know that my great-grandparents came from Vienna in Johnson county.George William and Sarah Armstrong Edwards and Winslow and Sallie Lovens(Lovins).That is all that I have on them. Thank you for answering. Debbie Edwards Bibbs PS.I think that it is kinda neat...we both have the same first name!..lol. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, IL > Debbie: > > My direct Edwards line did not live in Belknap until 1916 when my Great-Grandfather, Finas Newton Edwards died. He was buried in the cemetery there -gravestone still stands. However, we may still connect in a different way which you will see at the end of this letter. > > Finas' widow was enumerated on the 1920 census, living with her daughter's family: > 1920, 13 January: Federal Census, Johnson County, Illinois, Cache Township, "Belknap Village" > Family #119: > Ward, Harve, 24, married, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois, Laborer, Timber & Farm > Ward, Hazel, 19, born Indiana, mother and father born Illinois > Ward, Harvey O., 1-11/12, born Illinois, father born Illinois, mother born Indiana > Edwards, Edith, Mother-in-law, 64, widow, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois. > > Edith Edwards' son, Fred Alva Edwards, and maybe another son Tom Edwards, were living in Belknap already. I think she went to live with them once her husband died. None of the names you listed appear in my database. > > We may connect in a different way, however. My great-grandfather's youngest brother, McCollister (aka "Mack" or "Collie") had a son, Willis, who was living in Johnson County. 24 November 1910, Willis A. Edwards of Bloomfield, Johnson County, Illinois, Laborer, 22, born in White County, Illinois, son of Mack Collister and Emma Edwards, marries Mary E. Rion, 18 born Johnson County, Illinois, daughter of William Rion of Bloomfield, Illinois. Willis would have been a cousin to Tom and Fred Edwards. All of them had been fromWhite County, Illinois. I think the attraction in Belknap was the lumbering & box- building and some of them worked, I think, at Main Bros. Box and Lumber just across the county line in Karnak - a hop, skip and jump from Belknap. Maybe the other Edwards there were cousins too? Can you trace any of your Edwards to White County, Illinois (circa 1850); Muhlenberg County, Kentucky (circa 1835); or Wilson County, Tennessee (circa 1800)? Let me know if y! > ou see any connection. Thanks for writing. > > Debbie McArdle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dmb1957 > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:03 AM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > Hi Debbie...I am researching my dad's family.I noticed that you have Edwards > listed.I am an Edwards. > My dad is James Homer Edwards..b.Feb.20,1929..d.March 20,1999. > His dad,James Henry Edwards...b.Nov.26,1887 in Belknap,Illinois...d March > 30,1963. > His mom,Gracie Belle Carter Edwards....b May 26,1893 in Belknap....d July > 12,1946. > Do these names sound familiar to you? > Thank you, > Debbie Edwards Bibbs > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > Virginia, yes, he is the same person. He is not related, as it turns out, > to the Morses of Massac County, Illinois. Are you researching the Morses of > that area? Debbie McArdle (researching Edwards, Ward, Hazel, Beggs, Morse, > Ledbetter in Pope, Massac, Johnson & Pulaski Counties, Illinois) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Virginia Flesher > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > > > > Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive Branch, > MS? > > That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with him > > several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. > > > > At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: > > >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having > mutations > > >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in the > > >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines > connect. > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > >

    09/10/2003 07:33:42
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Edwards & Ward of Johnson County, IL & Pulaski County, IL
    2. Debbie & Jim McArdle
    3. Debbie: My direct Edwards line did not live in Belknap until 1916 when my Great-Grandfather, Finas Newton Edwards died. He was buried in the cemetery there -gravestone still stands. However, we may still connect in a different way which you will see at the end of this letter. Finas' widow was enumerated on the 1920 census, living with her daughter's family: 1920, 13 January: Federal Census, Johnson County, Illinois, Cache Township, "Belknap Village" Family #119: Ward, Harve, 24, married, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois, Laborer, Timber & Farm Ward, Hazel, 19, born Indiana, mother and father born Illinois Ward, Harvey O., 1-11/12, born Illinois, father born Illinois, mother born Indiana Edwards, Edith, Mother-in-law, 64, widow, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois. Edith Edwards' son, Fred Alva Edwards, and maybe another son Tom Edwards, were living in Belknap already. I think she went to live with them once her husband died. None of the names you listed appear in my database. We may connect in a different way, however. My great-grandfather's youngest brother, McCollister (aka "Mack" or "Collie") had a son, Willis, who was living in Johnson County. 24 November 1910, Willis A. Edwards of Bloomfield, Johnson County, Illinois, Laborer, 22, born in White County, Illinois, son of Mack Collister and Emma Edwards, marries Mary E. Rion, 18 born Johnson County, Illinois, daughter of William Rion of Bloomfield, Illinois. Willis would have been a cousin to Tom and Fred Edwards. All of them had been fromWhite County, Illinois. I think the attraction in Belknap was the lumbering & box- building and some of them worked, I think, at Main Bros. Box and Lumber just across the county line in Karnak - a hop, skip and jump from Belknap. Maybe the other Edwards there were cousins too? Can you trace any of your Edwards to White County, Illinois (circa 1850); Muhlenberg County, Kentucky (circa 1835); or Wilson County, Tennessee (circa 1800)? Let me know if y! ou see any connection. Thanks for writing. Debbie McArdle ----- Original Message ----- From: dmb1957 To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing Hi Debbie...I am researching my dad's family.I noticed that you have Edwards listed.I am an Edwards. My dad is James Homer Edwards..b.Feb.20,1929..d.March 20,1999. His dad,James Henry Edwards...b.Nov.26,1887 in Belknap,Illinois...d March 30,1963. His mom,Gracie Belle Carter Edwards....b May 26,1893 in Belknap....d July 12,1946. Do these names sound familiar to you? Thank you, Debbie Edwards Bibbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > Virginia, yes, he is the same person. He is not related, as it turns out, to the Morses of Massac County, Illinois. Are you researching the Morses of that area? Debbie McArdle (researching Edwards, Ward, Hazel, Beggs, Morse, Ledbetter in Pope, Massac, Johnson & Pulaski Counties, Illinois) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Virginia Flesher > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:41 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive Branch, MS? > That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with him > several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. > > At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: > >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having mutations > >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in the > >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines connect. > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Do not send Virus warnings to this list. "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" [email protected]

    09/10/2003 04:15:35
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing
    2. dmb1957
    3. Hi Debbie...I am researching my dad's family.I noticed that you have Edwards listed.I am an Edwards. My dad is James Homer Edwards..b.Feb.20,1929..d.March 20,1999. His dad,James Henry Edwards...b.Nov.26,1887 in Belknap,Illinois...d March 30,1963. His mom,Gracie Belle Carter Edwards....b May 26,1893 in Belknap....d July 12,1946. Do these names sound familiar to you? Thank you, Debbie Edwards Bibbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie & Jim McArdle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > Virginia, yes, he is the same person. He is not related, as it turns out, to the Morses of Massac County, Illinois. Are you researching the Morses of that area? Debbie McArdle (researching Edwards, Ward, Hazel, Beggs, Morse, Ledbetter in Pope, Massac, Johnson & Pulaski Counties, Illinois) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Virginia Flesher > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:41 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing > > > Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive Branch, MS? > That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with him > several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. > > At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: > >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having mutations > >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in the > >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines connect. > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > >

    09/09/2003 10:03:26
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing
    2. Virginia Flesher
    3. James answered me, and I reminded him of our meeting several years ago. Thanks Virginia Moss Flesher dau of Calvin Moss son of Luther Moss son of John David Moss and Martha Dove Swan of Prairie AR son of John Moss and Nancy Robertson of Limestone AL I think our earlier ancestor was James, know the wife was Lydia

    09/09/2003 04:40:37
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing
    2. Debbie & Jim McArdle
    3. Virginia, yes, he is the same person. He is not related, as it turns out, to the Morses of Massac County, Illinois. Are you researching the Morses of that area? Debbie McArdle (researching Edwards, Ward, Hazel, Beggs, Morse, Ledbetter in Pope, Massac, Johnson & Pulaski Counties, Illinois) ----- Original Message ----- From: Virginia Flesher To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive Branch, MS? That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with him several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having mutations >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in the >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines connect. ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

    09/09/2003 02:32:54
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing
    2. Virginia Flesher
    3. Is James Bostick Morse the same person as James MORSE of Olive Branch, MS? That name seems familiar to me. I exchanged some information with him several years ago and he was not on internet, I am pretty sure. At 12:31 AM 9/8/03 -0500, you wrote: >James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having mutations >in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in the >process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines connect.

    09/09/2003 12:41:19
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Morse / Moss DNA Testing
    2. Debbie & Jim McArdle
    3. Please welcome Jack Moss to our group. He will be submitting his DNA for testing, representing a Virginia line of Mosses! It will be VERY interesting to establish a set of DNA markers for his Virginia line and we just might find a match for one of our DNA lines! The 12-marker test results are in for five of our members! Frank, James E. and Robert Nichols Morse match exactly, 12 out of 12! This means we have Ebenezer's DNA markers "pegged". Hopefully we can find more matches that will help us identify Ebenezer's ancestry. We may even be able to find cousins in the British Isles who have identical DNA markers, which could tell us where Ebenezer's family was from! Frank has expanded his test to 25 markers, and the results should be available any day now. James Bostick Morse and Tommy H. Moss match 11 out of 12, having mutations in just one sector. This was a surprise to us all! They are in the process of analyzing their charts to see where their male lines connect. We still need more DNA samples from male Morses (any spelling) from the following lines: Ebenezer Moss / Morse who lived in Prince William County, VA in the mid-1700s, Spartanburg County, SC in the late 1700s, and Caldwell County, KY in the early 1800s; Ebenezer and Obadiah Moss of Prince George Co MD; Mathew and Sylvester Moss of Prince William Co VA ; Samuel Morse of SC; James Morse of Greenville Co SC; Drury and Garrott Morris of Greenville Co SC; Hammond, Travis, and William Morris of Surry Co SC; Mason Morss of Spartanburg Co SC. British Isles Morse / Moss Colleen Norman Morse DNA Group Administrator

    09/07/2003 06:31:53
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Little Egypt Heritage, 7 September 2003, Vol 2 #32
    2. Bill
    3. Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 7 September 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #32 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Anyone living seven decades can expect to pick up the local newspaper and read obituaries of folks one knows. But it is those "special" ones that bring forth the most wonderful of memories. Last week it was Grandma ‘Bobbi', and this week it is ..... Back in some dark age when I was yet an Elementary School Principal, I had the honor and distinct pleasure of knowing a tremendously fascinating and talented woman violist that played with the Chicago Women's Symphony and the Toledo Orchestra. She truly believed that music [through Mozart and Beethoven] could calm the savage beast, man, and particularly children. We attended church together for many years, but it was in her role of loving children so much that I loved her best. She would bring her instrument to not only "my" school but schools all over the area to talk and demonstrate music to children. This Grand Lady studied and practiced all her life. There was always more to learn. She taught Suzuki Method and even traveled to Japan to study under Shinitfchi Suzuki himself. When I cross over I look forward to hearing her music and tasting the wonderful vegetable soup made from her own gardens at some future time. Kay, Kathleen THOMPSON Harbaugh [March 12, 1917 -- September 2, 2003], you have earned your rest. [for those who knew her -- obit located at <http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/classifieds?Category=CLOBITUARIES> Not to, at all, be insensitive to the present, yet during this morning's church music, the violin notes I heard were Kay's ... I was truly remembering her rendition. Thursday immediate, the Wizard of ID comic strip featured a woman who asked the Funeral Director if her husband could be buried in a ‘basket". One can take the pun several ways, but the one that first came to my mind was "going to Hxxx in a handbasket". Our word for coffin comes from the Greek word Kophinos [cough-in-ohs], which means "basket(s)". Woven plaited twig baskets were used by the Sumerians about 4000BC to inter their dead. Why, you ask did coffins ever become the norm for burial? Well, it is thought that fear was the motivator ... fear of disease and fear of the dead themselves. Drastic measures were taken to prevent the dead from haunting the living. They removed the head and limbs [at least the hands and feet] after binding the body. Tradition says that round about routes were taken to the gravesite so that the dead couldn't find their way back "home". You talk about raising the dead ... special holes were cut in homes to remove the body; six feet under was considered a safe depth; and coffins were an extra precaution; but "nailing down" the lid was a clincher. What, no combination locks? This didn't end it ... often very heavy stones were placed on top of the coffin for insurance. Is that where the idea of tombstones came from? And, of course, one didn't go near graveyards, after all they were "haunted". Our Aunt Eddie and Grandma Lester taught us that picnics among the haunted were great fun. For one thing we were never disturbed by the living. And, many a smile has been provoked by words written in stone. One of the most memorable occasions for my family was the graduation weekend that our oldest received his sheepskin in Moscow, Idaho. That weekend in May, 1980, Mt St Helen decided to blow her top. Before noon, on that Sunday, the sky was black and the cows were confused. We went out to lunch and drove to several cemeteries. In order to read stones we used matches, lighters and what batteries we had in pocket flashlights. Speaking of flashlights, remember sleep overs and campouts? Putting flashlights under your chins to make weird faces. Do you remember how the noises changed when the light went out of the sky? Those friendly little ‘varmits' of the daytime had nocturnal counterparts. In the still of the night these scurryings sounded like huge monsters crashing the forest. These noises and strange lights were hard to ignore and they made for great story-telling. On a scout camping trip another leader and myself decided to take a midnight walk through the woods. We were absorbed in identifying the sounds we heard ... bull frogs, crickets, doves, an odd owl. We had walked for about an hour when we heard some heavy breathing and snorting. It sounded big because the sound was coming at the same level as our heads [or there ‘bout]. By the volume it had larger nostrils than ours. We couldn't identify it at all and our curiosity was greater than our sense. We moved some branches aside and we saw two huge eyes staring back. To this day we haven't the slightest idea for sure what that "monster" was, but we sure had fun in later years telling that tale. Oh, yes, well, we did turn and walk away hoping with every step that whatever it was didn't charge us. <hugegrin> Do you like ghost stories? Here is one from the University of Nebraska at Lincoln: <http://www.geocities.com/katherinenabity/ghosts.html> and, <http://www.webspawner.com/users/nebraskashauntedcoll/> Now, most of my kin would say that such "haints" were but the imagination of a troubled soul. They say that there are natural explanations for ghost stories. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

    09/07/2003 04:50:49
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Bayles & Manning
    2. I am looking for information on Julia Watson Manning Bayles, she is the mother of John R. Manning who married my gr-aunt Mary Elizabeth Summers. I found today a marriage for Julia to Miller Bayles in Johnson County in 1877. On the 1880 Johnson Co census John age 14 is in the Miller and Julia Bayles home. John R. and Mary Elizabeth married in Johnson Co in 1890. Mary gave her son Elbert to my grandfather to raise. I am trying to find out what happened to them. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Wilma

    08/31/2003 12:36:09
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Little Egypt Heritage, 31 August 2003, Vol 2 #31
    2. Bill
    3. Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 31 August 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #31 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Regular readers of these articles know that I thoroughly believe in reading, and then more reading. The remarkable thing about reading is that our "eye" tends to catch things that are foremost in our minds or thoughts. It seems that this week everything I read tends to remind me of experiences with a dear, dear friend. There was the editorial in the newspaper about herbals; reporting that guggulipid,made from the resin of the mukul myrrh tree has no cholesterol lowering properties. And, reading an article on ecology and conservation, I dug out the book "A Sand County Almanac" by Aldo Leopold. In Midland, Michigan there is a ecology/conservation park where my firend volunteered her time. It has an observation room built out over a stream, Frank Lloyd Wright style. Tonight's article is dedicated to Barbara C Smith, "Grandma Bobbi" to our family. She was laid to rest yesterday afternoon after living more than ninety years. We saw Bobbi in the spring, spry and sharp as ever, just a bit weak and a bit hard of hearing. But, shucks that wasn't really something new. It was only a year ago that she gave up driving ... but, she kept the car outside at the her "retirement home", just in case. <grin> Her daughter and husband have been close friends for more than thirty five years and they report that Bobbi passed peacefully in her sleep early Thursday morning. She was full of life right up through a stroke she suffered Monday evening last, planning with family upcoming activities. One of the outstanding events we shared was a week's camping trip to Watkins Glen beginning the weekend of the original Woodstock in Seneca County, New York. We pulled in and set up our tent trailers just after the close of the "concert". For a mile or two before reaching the campgrounds we noticed the debris left behind by the mass of campers attending that event ... tents, sleeping bags, coolers, cooking utensils and sundry articles. I can feel to this day Bobbi's disapproval of the waste. As I think of Bobbi, I remember her spinning yarns and instructing our children in the finer natural foods which abound in nature. We drank sun-tea, had green salads from dandelions, and many humorous skits. Our son, Jim, polished one about Yule Gibbons. We chuckled for many a week and year as Jim perfected it. As part of the eulogy I felt compelled to write to Bobbi's family, I said: "I'm sure by now that Bobbi has met up with Yule and they will be discussing the infamous dandelion. I can hear Bobbi saying that if dandelions only grew in the highest reaches of the Himalayas, reachable only by yak-back with a team of Sherpa guides, they'd be one of the most prized of all botanical species. From Bobbi I learned that every part of the plant is edible during every part of the growth cycle. Some parts are absolutely delicious and other parts are, well, a bit bitter, not worth eating. The blossom is especially delicious. The leaves are pretty good salad ingredients when they're picked young. The roots, dried and grated, make a passably interesting coffee substitute, which was used by southern women during and following the Civil War. "I still hear her say: ‘Sure, dig 'em out if you must, but don't waste 'em. Eat 'em!" And, I can see Yule, knodding [sic] his head ... <hugesmile> " As last week's article said, war causes shortages, so that there might be food on the tables, but minus the "extras". Folks in cities suffer greater than those in the rural areas since food and other supplies are imported there, while rural folk either have their needs or can trade with neighbors. Even with scarcities, social life went on. Parties took on the air of what was available. If one had extra flour they might throw a "biscuit" party. In extreme cases one might throw a "starvation" party and offer "pine-floats" and fellowship. You know ... "pine-floats" .... tooth picks and a glass of water. Substitutes were experimented with and if successful, passed around. Nature furnishes many different items. As mentioned above, the root of the mighty dandelion could be used as a coffee substitute. Browned Okra seeds were also used. However, in the South during the WBTS, okra seeds were not readily available. One could always take yams or sweet potatoes, peel them, slice them thin, cut them into squares, dry them parched brown, then grind ... well, it's an acquired taste, after all. Carrots, prepared the same way could be used. The mighty oak which sheds it acorns could also be used after they were washed in the shell, parched, then with the shell removed, roasted with bacon grease and ground. Research reveals that one just has to use what might be available close at hand. Parched ground peanuts, parched ground sugar cane seeds, rye seeds, chicory, parched, roasted English peas or beans, parched beets, browned cornmeal, browned bran meal, and even burned corn. There was mention of browned wheat berries as a coffee substitute but I don't know what those are. Grandma Bobbi thought tea substitutes were easier to find. After all herbal teas are very popular. Leaves of many plants, such as sassafras leaves. Oh, and many roots, again such as sassafras. Leaves of the spiceberry bush produces a wintergreen flavor. Raspberry, blackberry, huckleberry, dittany, and holly leaves are commonly available. Yapon shrub twigs brew up aromatically. If you wanted mile/cream for your beverage, the well beaten white of eggs with a bit of butter added could be used. However, pour in the coffee slowly to avoid curdling. Omit the butter if you use it for tea. Sorghum has been known for ages as a sugar substitute. So has molasses. Figs when dried and ground can be used for a sugar substitute. Then there is the old stand by, honey. Grandma Oliver used to say that cooked down watermelon. If cooked "down" enough it would produce a fine white sugar. Though there was no effervescence to it, a champagne substitute was made from water, corn and molasses fermented in old molasses barrels. My reading could only come up with one butter substitute and that was sunflower seed oil. There was no recipe available though. Most of us are familiar with some flour substitutes. There is rice flour, cornmeal and rye flour. My great aunts used these at various times. I wonder if anyone tried ground oats as a flour substitute. Well, in closing, Grandma Bobbi once said that cider boiled down and cooled became jelly-like fit for the "king". I think some toast might go well with my soup tonight. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

    08/31/2003 12:30:04
    1. RE: [ILJOHNSO] AMERICA/TUNNEL HILL
    2. Jackie Cadle
    3. Hi Virginia, Yes, we did briefly. When I mentioned my book that I compiled after 12 years of research and am selling for $25. - I don't think we ever got back together. It has a good deal on David L.'s family and their descendants, as that is my husbands family through Patterson. [I am selling it at my cost only]. I just ask that after they receive it and can prove any additions or corrections to let me know. The book also has other Cadle,Caddell,Caudle,etc.families ,and people have graciously sent me added info. It looks like you got Ester's middle name from Bobby Cadle who got it from Shirley L. in WI. At the time it was just a stab in the dark. So far I or no one else can corroborate it. I have learned more about Ester's father, also. May I also ask where you found the middle name spelling for Solomon? I would like to change it if you have found a source for that spelling. What kind of info are you missing? I can let you know if it is in the book. You and my husband must be some kind of cousins, through David and Ester. Hope to hear from you, Jackie in Nampa, ID -----Original Message----- From: Virginia Flesher [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ILJOHNSO] AMERICA/TUNNEL HILL Jackie Cadle, Have you and I exchanged CADLE info before? I am descended from David CADLE who m Esther Barbara LYNCH. They came from Claiborne Co TN to Jackson Co MO, in early 1800's. Their son, Solomon Asberry CADLE was my link, through his second marriage to Mariah Mailen. ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Do not send Virus warnings to this list. "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" [email protected]

    08/30/2003 10:21:56
    1. RE: [ILJOHNSO] AMERICA/TUNNEL HILL
    2. Virginia Flesher
    3. Jackie Cadle, Have you and I exchanged CADLE info before? I am descended from David CADLE who m Esther Barbara LYNCH. They came from Claiborne Co TN to Jackson Co MO, in early 1800's. Their son, Solomon Asberry CADLE was my link, through his second marriage to Mariah Mailen.

    08/30/2003 01:27:25
    1. RE: [ILJOHNSO] AMERICA/TUNNEL HILL
    2. Jackie Cadle
    3. Hello Terry, What a surprise to find your query, here. Your grandfather was my grand uncle. Which child of their's was your parent? Sure hope we can help each other. I would so like to acquire some pictures of these people. William Louis Dalton married Glenice (Glennie) Jacobs around 1918 in IL. I have as children: William, Raymond, a girl (no name), and Daphne. Does that fit in with what you have. I too, was born in Harrisburg but w-a-y- back in 1926. But, lived most of my childhood in Chicago. So I'm a bit older that you. Please answer soon. Jackie in Idaho -----Original Message----- From: Terry Howell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILJOHNSO] AMERICA/TUNNEL HILL I was born in Harrisburg in '43. My grandpa WILLIAM LOUIS DALTON was born in Tunnel Hill in the late 1800s.. I know I had Williams cousins in the area and a lot of other relatives I visited as a child. If anyone has information for me I would appreciate it. also, I am looking for any historical information on the settlement of AMERICA thank you... Terry Howell ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

    08/29/2003 03:34:41
    1. Re: [ILJOHNSO] AMERICA/TUNNEL HILL
    2. Bill
    3. Dear Terry Howell, If you are of the male gender, I might be shirt-tail relative. My Great Aunt Fanny SUTLIFF married a HOWELL and moved to Canada for years. Pleas HOWELL, cousin to my father, lived around Vienna for a long while. Bill Oliver -=- Terry Howell wrote: > I was born in Harrisburg in '43. My grandpa WILLIAM LOUIS DALTON was born > in Tunnel Hill in the late 1800s.. I know I had Williams cousins in the area > and a lot of other relatives I visited as a child. If anyone has > information for me I would appreciate it. > > also, I am looking for any historical information on the settlement of > AMERICA > > thank you... Terry Howell > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

    08/29/2003 12:02:12
    1. [ILJOHNSO] AMERICA/TUNNEL HILL
    2. Terry Howell
    3. I was born in Harrisburg in '43. My grandpa WILLIAM LOUIS DALTON was born in Tunnel Hill in the late 1800s.. I know I had Williams cousins in the area and a lot of other relatives I visited as a child. If anyone has information for me I would appreciate it. also, I am looking for any historical information on the settlement of AMERICA thank you... Terry Howell

    08/28/2003 06:08:43
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Genealogy photos
    2. JJ
    3. Im researching any pictures of Margaret Jones (1823-1901) JP genealogy website: http://www.ancestry-web.com/

    08/25/2003 10:07:36
    1. [ILJOHNSO] Genealogy photos
    2. JJ
    3. Im researching any pictures of Margaret Jones (1823-1901) JP genealogy website: http://www.ancestry-web.com/

    08/25/2003 09:34:26