John, thank you. I hope I can put this family together. She is one name I didn't have for one of H.C.'s children. Although there was a Francis A. Findley on the 1880 census. My husband is very surprised to find the name spelled with a d. But maybe that's how the census taker thought it was spelled. Carla

Carla; I don't have much on the Finley Family except that a Fannie Finley married one of the Sharp's from Samoth - New Columbia Area! Her Father was H.C. Finley! John M.Hines, Sr. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:20 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Tennie Rice - James Finley > Tennie L. RICE was born in Vienna, Johnson Co., IL August 1, 1888 and died > June 11, 1969 in East Moline, IL. > She married James Kenneth FINLEY March 19, 1918 in East Moline, IL. He was > born August 2, 1886, I think in Samoth, IL. His father, Hardin and grandfather > James both lived in Massac county. > I would really appreciate some info on Tennie and the Finley's. Thanks in > advance. > Carla Finley > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > >

Tennie L. RICE was born in Vienna, Johnson Co., IL August 1, 1888 and died June 11, 1969 in East Moline, IL. She married James Kenneth FINLEY March 19, 1918 in East Moline, IL. He was born August 2, 1886, I think in Samoth, IL. His father, Hardin and grandfather James both lived in Massac county. I would really appreciate some info on Tennie and the Finley's. Thanks in advance. Carla Finley

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 23 November 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #42 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, In opening, I have an example to last week's question: Are you doing the "write" thing? :) I was reading in a publication about mass transportation systems and as usual my mind wandered — just a tiny bit. Sitting in front of me in my computer room is a picture of my Grandfather and one of his brothers. They were standing outside a streetcar in Cincinnati, Ohio near the turn of the twentieth century in uniform of the Cincinnati ___ Company. Great Uncle Lando controlled the power and Grandpa Charles was the "conductor". Both men were "giants" in their time, standing more than six foot five. In my lifetime, I remember streetcars powered by electricity, but I remember riding in a horse drawn streetcar while visiting a historical site. I also remember the updated version of buses powered by the same electric lines. Then, of course, we developed buses which were independent of electric lines, which produced black fumes. In Lincoln, Nebraska the last electric streetcars ran in 1945; in Omaha 1955; in Chicago, Illinois 1958; and in Toledo, Ohio 1949. Electric streetcars lasted through World War II, mostly due to conservation efforts to the war "efforts". It is not surprising that the first mule or horse drawn streetcars were pulled along on railroad tracks. The names in Toledo, Ohio for the first streetcar companies were the Toledo Consolidated Street Railway, Metropolitan Street Railway Company, and the Central Street Railway Company. In 1890 the horse drawn cars were converted to electric streetcars. In 1866, the Civil War over; slavery abolished; Andrew Johnson President of the United States of America; there were no electric lights, sewers, or running water in our cities. Artesian wells supplied public water. And transportation was by "horse-power" ... horse and buggy, mostly. There were some artificial gas street lights in our cities. Maybe, I should really back up to the beginning of public [mass] transportation in New York City in 1826/7. It was called an "omnibus" and it ran up and down Broadway. Though there had always been carriages to transport people, the omnibus was different in that it traveled a regular or designated route [and charged a nominal fee]. The driver sat atop like a stagecoach driver and when people wanted off they pulled "his leg" or pulled on a cord or leather strap attached to his leg. Then came the great improvement ... streetcars running over steel tracks. Horses and/or mules furnished the power. Because they ran on steel tracks one horse could pull a much larger vehicle. There were drawbacks to animal power however. Horses could only work four hours at a time and mules only two hours. They could be used again after a "proper" rest. Thus, three or four streetcars would require as many as three dozen head of stock to keep them running. When electric streetcars came into use, more than a quarter of a million horses were put on the unemployment list. A hundred and a quarter bushels of grain a day were saved. This had side effects on the economy, for the railroads hauled grain. Forty-five million bushels of grain a year revenue loss. Then there were the layoffs of the workers who cared and cleaned up after [both on and off the street] the livestock. Reportedly, New York was the first city to have streetcars; New Orleans was the second. San Francisco was in there next along with Chicago. Streetcar crews consisted of two members. One man was the driver and rode up front. His job was to drive the horse; control the reigns. He was also responsible for handling the brake. The second crew member was called the conductor. He rode at the rear of the car. He helped passengers on and off the streetcar. When everyone was on board, the conductor would pull a cord which rang a bell which the driver could hear. When the brothers, my Great Uncle, the driver and Grandfather, the conductor, were a team, horses were no longer used in Cincinnati, Ohio. Streetcars were powered by electricity. The first attempts to develop a horseless streetcar was the cable care. Cable cars were hauled slowly by a long cable that moved slowly under a city's streets. A ditch was dug between the rails and a chamber was constructed to house the cable. This chamber was called a "vault". The cable that ran from one end of the line to the other was spliced into a loop. The cable moved constantly and there was a device which could latch onto the cable when the driver wanted to move the car. To round corners, etc, a series of pulleys was used. In San Francisco, these allowed the cars to be pulled up the steep hills. The first large and successful use of electricity to run a streetcar system was built in Richmond, Virginia in 1888. The builder, Frank Sprague, worked for Thomas Edison. With this system, wires were strung overhead. A long pole was used to attach the car to the source of electricity. Electricity was generated by large steam engines. With electricity powering streetcars the name changed to "trolley cars". Streetcars didn't last forever, so Uncle and Grandpa turned to other professions. Uncle furnished security for the building of the Panama Canal and Grandpa operated Cranes. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://206.103.49.193/csr/csr.htm http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Good Morning Listers, Looking to share information about the family of Richy OLIVER, from Christian County, KY ca 1840s to Johnson county. Later moved to Sulphur Springs [Creal Springs]. Rev. Richy OLIVER married Mary Elizabeth [Polly] HARPER, dau of James HARPER and Rhoda JACKSON. Their known children [all born Johnson/Williamson cos] were Cynthia [Samantha] Anne OLIVER Mary Elizabeth OLIVER [m ___ HORSELY] James Nelson OLIVER [m Sarah Malissa BENSON] Andy Lando OIVER [m Carrie PUTNICK] Walker OLIVER Emma Jane OLIVER [m Samuel FITZGERALD] [John] Logan OLIVER Steward [Stuart] OLIVER [Joseph] Frank OLIVER [m Minnie Osborn BROWN] Charles I OLIVER [m Rosie Anne WALL] Richard OLIVER [m Fannie Catherine CHILDERS] Hattie OLIVER Mattie OLIVER Regards, Bill Oliver -=-

Bill, Tell me more about Red Cloud NB being the terminal point for tickets to America purchased in Switzerland. I have Swiss ancesters who immigrated between 1883 & 1890. In 1890 they were in Blue Hill NB which is also in Webster County near Red Cloud. I wondered how they ever ended up in such a remote location. I understand that the B&M Railroad ran through Blue Hill & thought perhaps that was their transportation. My gggrandfather was Henry SCHMID. He owned the meat market in Blue Hill, and his son-in-law, John BRUNNER, owned the bakery. Please enlighten me with your knowledge of Swiss purchasing tickets in Switzerland and their terminal point being Red Cloud NB. Thanks, Jane Arni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 4:40 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Little Egypt Heritage, 16 November 2003, Vol 2 #41 > Little Egypt Heritage Articles > Stories of Southern Illinois > (c) Bill Oliver > > 16 November 2003 > Vol 2 Issue: #41 > ISBN: pending > > Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, > > "Things I learned while looking for something else": > [the late Sidney Harris, Columnist, Chicago Tribune] > > Death, funerals, and cemeteries are topics that have all > played a major part in my life of late. I don't seem to get > away from them while reading either. Now, that is not all > "bad". This week's readings took me to some gravesites of > some very interesting people, as well as, to a very > interesting place ... across the "pond". > > For example, Silas Garber (1833-1905) who was born September > 21, 1833, was a member of University of Nebraska board of > regents from 1875-76; and Governor of Nebraska from > 1875-79. He died January 12, 1905 and is interred in the > Red Cloud Cemetery. Red Cloud was the terminal point for > the tickets to America purchased in Switzerland in 1879. > > Charles Robley Evans (1866-1954) -- also known as Charles R. > Evans -- was born in Illinois, in 1866. He became U.S. > Representative from Nevada at-large, 1919-21; but was > defeated in the 1920 election. He died in 1954 and is > buried in Waco Cemetery, Nemaha county, Nebraska. > > Robert Wilkinson Furnas (1824-1905) was born on May 5, 1824; > became a member of the Nebraska territorial legislature in > 1856; he was also a member of University of Nebraska board > of regents from 1869 to 1875; Governor of Nebraska, > 1873-75. He died on June 1, 1905 and is buried in > Brownville Cemetery. Furnas County, Neb. is named for him. > > Lucy Hayes, the President's wife, was known as "Mother Lucy" > during the Civil War for her care giving while at the camp > with the then General. However, Mary Ann Bickerdyke was > also known as "Mother" for her service as a nurse, surgeon, > and administrator on the battlefields of he Civil War. She > was noted for cutting through army "red tape" to get > supplies to the Union men. She was born in 1817 and died 8 > November 1901. She is interred in Linwood Cemetery, > Galesburg, Illinois. > > George Armstrong Custer, who is famous or notorious in > several states including Ohio, Nebraska and South Dakota is > buried in the West Point Cemetery, US Military Academy, West > Point, New York. He was moved from the shallow grave on the > highest point of the field at Little Big Horn. However, my > interest was perked with the idea that he had more than > twenty horses shot from under him in during the civil war. > I'll bet there was lots of conversation among the horses > about whose turn it was to carry the "general". > > At the Battle of Little Big Horn, the sole survivor was > Comanche, a mustang who saw action with the Seventh > Cavalry. He survived twelve wounds. He recuperated at Fort > Lincoln, nearly 1000 miles from the battle field. As a > result of his survival he became a symbol and was excused > from further military duties. Thus, he was never ridden > again in the line of duty. He was mounted and is today > displayed in a humidity-controlled case. > > I guess that the man who holds the record for "cheating" > death is Eddie Rickenbacker. He is interred in Greenlawn > Cemetery, Columbus, Ohio. Eddie said that he had cheated > death 135 times before dying in bed at the good ole age of > eighty-two [July 23, 1973]. He was given the Air Force's > version of the Army's riderless horse; four jet planes shot > into view and the first pulled straight up while the others > went on in the missing leader formation. > > Near Cleveland, Ohio in the community of Valley View, a few > folks banded together to commemorate a small plot of ground > in memory of a farmer, John HARPER and his family. The 20 x > 40 foot piece of ground contains members of the Harper > family and several men who lost their lives while helping to > dig the Ohio Erie Canal. > > Also, in Ohio, the Hessville Cemetery, in Sandusky County, > hosts the grave of John BURKHARD. John Burkhard served in > the American Revolutionary War and died in 1847, at the age > of 93 years, 4 months and 12 days. His stone has engraved > on it, "A SOLDIER OF THE REVOLUUTION & A MEMBER OF > WASHINGTON'S LIFE GUARD." Now it is really something to > have a member of Washington's personal guard in the Black > Swamp of northwest Ohio, but what caught my eye was the fact > that John Burkhard, was born on 21 August 1753 in > Switzerland, the country native to my Nebraska ancestors. > The Burkhards settled in Berks County, Pennsylvania. A > place where I've been searching for other members of my > Swiss ancestors. > > One has to watch old movies and know Bert Lancaster, the > actor, to know who Robert Franklin Stroud is, unless, maybe > that you live in Metropolis, Illinois. That southern > Illinois city on the Ohio river sports the body of the > respected ornithologist. Mr Stroud spent fifty-four years > in prison to learn all that he knew. Many know him as the > "Birdman of Alcatraz". > > This may be the wave of the future. In St Andre de la > Roche, southern France, there is a cemetery which has gone > "high tech". It could be a fore-runner of things to come. > Via the touch- screen computer, folks can read a biography > of any of 4,000 deceased persons buried there. Also, a > detailed map will direct you to the gravesite of that > person. That is not all; you can leave condolences > electronically. Local taxis service and funeral parlor > information is available. I'm sure that enterprising > entrepreneurs will think of things and/or services to add. > I envision florists and hotel/motel [bed and breakfast > establishments] to name but a couple. > > Wouldn't it be nice if some folks living near our cemeteries > would place such wonderful information about those buried in > them as did the folks in southern France at the St Andre de > la Roche cemetery. > > Some People might say, "Who would want to be 90?" And I > say, "Anyone who is 89." [Attributed to Phyllis Diller on > "Larry King Live"] > > In closing, I have a question to ask of all you family > historians: Are you doing the "write" thing? :) > > e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. > (May you walk in peace and harmony) > > Wado, > > > Bill > -=- > > Other sites worth visiting: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] >

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 16 November 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #41 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, "Things I learned while looking for something else": [the late Sidney Harris, Columnist, Chicago Tribune] Death, funerals, and cemeteries are topics that have all played a major part in my life of late. I don't seem to get away from them while reading either. Now, that is not all "bad". This week's readings took me to some gravesites of some very interesting people, as well as, to a very interesting place ... across the "pond". For example, Silas Garber (1833-1905) who was born September 21, 1833, was a member of University of Nebraska board of regents from 1875-76; and Governor of Nebraska from 1875-79. He died January 12, 1905 and is interred in the Red Cloud Cemetery. Red Cloud was the terminal point for the tickets to America purchased in Switzerland in 1879. Charles Robley Evans (1866-1954) -- also known as Charles R. Evans -- was born in Illinois, in 1866. He became U.S. Representative from Nevada at-large, 1919-21; but was defeated in the 1920 election. He died in 1954 and is buried in Waco Cemetery, Nemaha county, Nebraska. Robert Wilkinson Furnas (1824-1905) was born on May 5, 1824; became a member of the Nebraska territorial legislature in 1856; he was also a member of University of Nebraska board of regents from 1869 to 1875; Governor of Nebraska, 1873-75. He died on June 1, 1905 and is buried in Brownville Cemetery. Furnas County, Neb. is named for him. Lucy Hayes, the President's wife, was known as "Mother Lucy" during the Civil War for her care giving while at the camp with the then General. However, Mary Ann Bickerdyke was also known as "Mother" for her service as a nurse, surgeon, and administrator on the battlefields of he Civil War. She was noted for cutting through army "red tape" to get supplies to the Union men. She was born in 1817 and died 8 November 1901. She is interred in Linwood Cemetery, Galesburg, Illinois. George Armstrong Custer, who is famous or notorious in several states including Ohio, Nebraska and South Dakota is buried in the West Point Cemetery, US Military Academy, West Point, New York. He was moved from the shallow grave on the highest point of the field at Little Big Horn. However, my interest was perked with the idea that he had more than twenty horses shot from under him in during the civil war. I'll bet there was lots of conversation among the horses about whose turn it was to carry the "general". At the Battle of Little Big Horn, the sole survivor was Comanche, a mustang who saw action with the Seventh Cavalry. He survived twelve wounds. He recuperated at Fort Lincoln, nearly 1000 miles from the battle field. As a result of his survival he became a symbol and was excused from further military duties. Thus, he was never ridden again in the line of duty. He was mounted and is today displayed in a humidity-controlled case. I guess that the man who holds the record for "cheating" death is Eddie Rickenbacker. He is interred in Greenlawn Cemetery, Columbus, Ohio. Eddie said that he had cheated death 135 times before dying in bed at the good ole age of eighty-two [July 23, 1973]. He was given the Air Force's version of the Army's riderless horse; four jet planes shot into view and the first pulled straight up while the others went on in the missing leader formation. Near Cleveland, Ohio in the community of Valley View, a few folks banded together to commemorate a small plot of ground in memory of a farmer, John HARPER and his family. The 20 x 40 foot piece of ground contains members of the Harper family and several men who lost their lives while helping to dig the Ohio Erie Canal. Also, in Ohio, the Hessville Cemetery, in Sandusky County, hosts the grave of John BURKHARD. John Burkhard served in the American Revolutionary War and died in 1847, at the age of 93 years, 4 months and 12 days. His stone has engraved on it, "A SOLDIER OF THE REVOLUUTION & A MEMBER OF WASHINGTON'S LIFE GUARD." Now it is really something to have a member of Washington's personal guard in the Black Swamp of northwest Ohio, but what caught my eye was the fact that John Burkhard, was born on 21 August 1753 in Switzerland, the country native to my Nebraska ancestors. The Burkhards settled in Berks County, Pennsylvania. A place where I've been searching for other members of my Swiss ancestors. One has to watch old movies and know Bert Lancaster, the actor, to know who Robert Franklin Stroud is, unless, maybe that you live in Metropolis, Illinois. That southern Illinois city on the Ohio river sports the body of the respected ornithologist. Mr Stroud spent fifty-four years in prison to learn all that he knew. Many know him as the "Birdman of Alcatraz". This may be the wave of the future. In St Andre de la Roche, southern France, there is a cemetery which has gone "high tech". It could be a fore-runner of things to come. Via the touch- screen computer, folks can read a biography of any of 4,000 deceased persons buried there. Also, a detailed map will direct you to the gravesite of that person. That is not all; you can leave condolences electronically. Local taxis service and funeral parlor information is available. I'm sure that enterprising entrepreneurs will think of things and/or services to add. I envision florists and hotel/motel [bed and breakfast establishments] to name but a couple. Wouldn't it be nice if some folks living near our cemeteries would place such wonderful information about those buried in them as did the folks in southern France at the St Andre de la Roche cemetery. Some People might say, "Who would want to be 90?" And I say, "Anyone who is 89." [Attributed to Phyllis Diller on "Larry King Live"] In closing, I have a question to ask of all you family historians: Are you doing the "write" thing? :) e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 9 November 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #40 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Will minimal apologies, I admit to lollygagging about this week and not doing an article for distribution. As it happens in life, death sort of takes over, and I have had my share of friends and family passing on these past few weeks. But, however, I am of the age where this happens. We spend a lifetime observing the growth of families and gaining new friends. Then we observe the decrease of these two circles. At any rate, I spent the week lollygagging about celebrating and taking care of the necessary business of supporting my wife in the death of her Mother. And, as family gathered there was a lot of celebrating. Now, one just cannot be expected to concentrate on heritage articles under those circumstances ... so, I didn't. I took the time to celebrate with family. In the final years of her life, my Grandmother Oliver would say that she had no friends left to mourn her passing because they had all passed on before her. Well, that is not unexpected if you life to be one hundred two and a half years old when you die. On Thursday we hosted the visitation of friends and family at the funeral home. We spent much time nodding our heads up and down [in the affirmative] listening to the tributes from representatives of the various organizations Mom-in-Law had contributed time and energy to which to lead and accomplish many "good works". The family told favorite stories of "Mom", "Grandma" and "Great-Grandma". The laughter and "knee-slapping" was wonderful to hear and see. As always during funeral services, many folks are too emotional to speak, however, there were a few brave souls who ventured forth with their remembrances and tributes. Following the services at Thelma's Church, the "family reunion" continued with more stories and picture taking. >From three extreme corners of this country the family gathered. Besides the three children and spouses, ALL ten grandchildren were in attendance and all but two great grandchildren were there to participate in the remembrances. When we, the family, returned to Thelma's apartment to choose remembrances, a fantastic thing took place. Heirlooms and pictures were chosen on the basis of what was best remembered about our matriarch. The real miracle was observing the tremendous diversity of this woman who affected our lives, for each had different remembrances. She must have treated us all in such a way as to count us all as individuals — family, DRAKEs All — but, also distinct individuals. The Minister in his opening remarks said words to the effect that there were words such as shy, un-opinionated, and non-assertive, but those would not be used "today". And, "... that it only took 30 seconds to identify Thelma's children." Therefore, Rest in Peace: Thelma Pauline Lindsey Drake 8 November 1911 - 3 November 2003 e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Trying to establish contact with anyone researching Simeon BERRY and wife Sarah WALLIS. Simeon died in 1880 , Johnson CO. Jeff [email protected]

My condolences to you as well as your family, Bill. Us fellow listers need to cherish the moments we have with our aging relatives for they will not be here forever. Sincerely, Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Re: ILJOHNSO-D Digest V03 #112 > Good Afternoon Mike, > > Thank you for your comments. I too, empathize with folks caring for their > aging relatives. > > My Mother-in-Law passed away at 3pm this afternoon in a peaceful coma. She, of > course, will be missed dearly, but we are OK with the idea that her suffering > has ended. > > Sincerely, > > Bill Oliver > -=- > > Mike Howerton wrote: > > > Hi Bill; > > I just spent the better part of 5 days with my folks at New Burnside. They > > have Grandma Baker in their home and she is almost 90. They are grateful to > > be able to care for Grandma, although they are now at a point where one of > > them has to be at the house almost 24/7. I just wanted to say I empathize > > with anyone facing caring for an elderly parent and the elderly parent > > themselves. > > Mike Howerton > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:00 AM > > Subject: ILJOHNSO-D Digest V03 #112 > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

Good Afternoon Mike, Thank you for your comments. I too, empathize with folks caring for their aging relatives. My Mother-in-Law passed away at 3pm this afternoon in a peaceful coma. She, of course, will be missed dearly, but we are OK with the idea that her suffering has ended. Sincerely, Bill Oliver -=- Mike Howerton wrote: > Hi Bill; > I just spent the better part of 5 days with my folks at New Burnside. They > have Grandma Baker in their home and she is almost 90. They are grateful to > be able to care for Grandma, although they are now at a point where one of > them has to be at the house almost 24/7. I just wanted to say I empathize > with anyone facing caring for an elderly parent and the elderly parent > themselves. > Mike Howerton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:00 AM > Subject: ILJOHNSO-D Digest V03 #112

Hi Bill; I just spent the better part of 5 days with my folks at New Burnside. They have Grandma Baker in their home and she is almost 90. They are grateful to be able to care for Grandma, although they are now at a point where one of them has to be at the house almost 24/7. I just wanted to say I empathize with anyone facing caring for an elderly parent and the elderly parent themselves. Mike Howerton ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:00 AM Subject: ILJOHNSO-D Digest V03 #112

Hello, Joyce, Oh, yes!! It just shows my preoccupation of the moment. Thanks for commenting. Regars, Bill Oliver -=- [email protected] wrote: > I also assume you meant coma instead of comma?? :) Interesting, though; I > sympathize. > > Joyce > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

I also assume you meant coma instead of comma?? :) Interesting, though; I sympathize. Joyce

My sincere apologies, spell-check didn't know I meand Staph instead of staff. Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 2 November 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #39 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Soon to be 92 year old Mother-in-Law entered the hospital last Monday and has since contracted a staff infection and is a pretty ill patient. Right now she is non-responsive, which I associate to something like a "comma". This article has been influenced by that fact. Someone recently asked me what I do with all the time I have since I am now "retired". I replied that, "I spend it all trying to figure out how I ever found the time to have a teaching career of thirty two and a half years." My favorite columnist, Roberta de Boer, who writes for The [Toledo] Blade, wrote in her column recently about time and being busy, too busy, to talk long on the phone with a friend. Yet, she admitted that they stretched the "minute" into almost an hour. She went on to explain that the time was necessary because one of the things that was making her friend's life busy was caring for an aging parent. That the parent was having some vertigo problems and falling more often, necessitating long drives. The solution had been to bring the parent to a "nursing home" in the community where the daughter lives. There is, as Ms de Boer writes, "a real empty feeling in the pit of your stomach" when a child trades a parent's independence for the security of "at hand care" when necessary. There is guilt, usually self inflicted, though not always. Those cousins of mine who yet remain in this world remember Grandma Oliver always remarking, "not the way it is supposed to be!", about her friends who went to the "poor farm" or "old folks home" [or nursing home]. Grandma always believed that she would never go to a nursing home ... nope, she had five children to care for her. Well, at 102, she had four children remaining and due to two living 2000 miles away, and health concerns of all four children, Grandma spent a few remaining months in a "home". With each visit she would remind me that this wasn't the way it was supposed to be. She would say that she brought five children into the world and that she should not have to be in a "home". The familiar story of Great Grandma Whittenberg was often repeated by Grandma Oliver. Great Grandma Whittenberg who brought children into the world when she was Grandma Benson, had more children with her second husband. She spent her remaining years with one of her daughters. Grandma Oliver loved to tell of her sitting in her rocker on the front porch, shelling peas, watching her grandchildren playing in the front yard. That was Grandma's idea of how it was "supposed" to be. Dad spent his last months in a nursing home. I can hear Grandma Oliver voicing her disapproval; loud and clear. Two of Dad's sisters spent their remaining time in the homes of their children. And, I can hear Grandma repeating ... "that's the way it's supposed to be." But, I really hear her approval for what took place for her last remaining child, her "baby", Dad's brother. Cousin Dennie, maybe because we all heard Grandma, took time from his work and spent it all with his father. As I visited with Uncle Virge, I saw a great bond between father and son. Yep, Grandma Oliver, sitting on a cloud, rockin' in a chair, had to be saying, "Yep, that's the way it's supposed to be!" e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 2 November 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #39 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Soon to be 92 year old Mother-in-Law entered the hospital last Monday and has since contracted a staff infection and is a pretty ill patient. Right now she is non-responsive, which I associate to something like a "comma". This article has been influenced by that fact. Someone recently asked me what I do with all the time I have since I am now "retired". I replied that, "I spend it all trying to figure out how I ever found the time to have a teaching career of thirty two and a half years." My favorite columnist, Roberta de Boer, who writes for The [Toledo] Blade, wrote in her column recently about time and being busy, too busy, to talk long on the phone with a friend. Yet, she admitted that they stretched the "minute" into almost an hour. She went on to explain that the time was necessary because one of the things that was making her friend's life busy was caring for an aging parent. That the parent was having some vertigo problems and falling more often, necessitating long drives. The solution had been to bring the parent to a "nursing home" in the community where the daughter lives. There is, as Ms de Boer writes, "a real empty feeling in the pit of your stomach" when a child trades a parent's independence for the security of "at hand care" when necessary. There is guilt, usually self inflicted, though not always. Those cousins of mine who yet remain in this world remember Grandma Oliver always remarking, "not the way it is supposed to be!", about her friends who went to the "poor farm" or "old folks home" [or nursing home]. Grandma always believed that she would never go to a nursing home ... nope, she had five children to care for her. Well, at 102, she had four children remaining and due to two living 2000 miles away, and health concerns of all four children, Grandma spent a few remaining months in a "home". With each visit she would remind me that this wasn't the way it was supposed to be. She would say that she brought five children into the world and that she should not have to be in a "home". The familiar story of Great Grandma Whittenberg was often repeated by Grandma Oliver. Great Grandma Whittenberg who brought children into the world when she was Grandma Benson, had more children with her second husband. She spent her remaining years with one of her daughters. Grandma Oliver loved to tell of her sitting in her rocker on the front porch, shelling peas, watching her grandchildren playing in the front yard. That was Grandma's idea of how it was "supposed" to be. Dad spent his last months in a nursing home. I can hear Grandma Oliver voicing her disapproval; loud and clear. Two of Dad's sisters spent their remaining time in the homes of their children. And, I can hear Grandma repeating ... "that's the way it's supposed to be." But, I really hear her approval for what took place for her last remaining child, her "baby", Dad's brother. Cousin Dennie, maybe because we all heard Grandma, took time from his work and spent it all with his father. As I visited with Uncle Virge, I saw a great bond between father and son. Yep, Grandma Oliver, sitting on a cloud, rockin' in a chair, had to be saying, "Yep, that's the way it's supposed to be!" e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Hi Bill, Would you let me know if you run into the Hequembourg name as you index Cayuga County? Thanks, Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:31 AM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] CAYUGA county, New York CUYKENDALL > Good Day Listers, > > I am currently indexing some material from Cayuga County, > New York and am coming across the surname CUYKENDALL. Is > there anyone on the list who has ancestors hailing from > Cayuga county that would like this information posted? > > Regards, > > Papa-san Bill Oliver > -=- > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] >

Good Day Listers, I am currently indexing some material from Cayuga County, New York and am coming across the surname CUYKENDALL. Is there anyone on the list who has ancestors hailing from Cayuga county that would like this information posted? Regards, Papa-san Bill Oliver -=-

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 26 October 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #38 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, So very often I use quotes from the late Sidney Harris as an introduction or beginning for these articles. The most often one "Things I learned while looking for something else". This week's will probably be entirely off the top of my mind and memory. In what seems decades ago, a Dutch Canadian named Jan Hassebroek, found and e-mailed, for a granddaughter of mine, the words to a piece of music that she was searching for. He signed his reply, "Your Dutch Uncle". Jan ["Yon"] was very kind and had a most gentle soul. Barb and I had the great pleasure of visiting him one time in his city of St Catherines, Ontario. At seventy years young he passed over last Monday. He was a lover of cats and music, all types of music, and had one of the finest collections of recordings that I have ever seen. I'm sure that some DJs would be most envious. His apartment in St Catherines, Ontario was very neat with few pictures and absolutely filled with rows and rows of tapes and CDs and LPs. Jan introduced me to the Celtic singer, Loreena McKennitt. So, everything this week revoled around music. And, what I know about music escaped with the horses when the barn door was left open. However, I love to listen to music. My Grandma Lester had a beautiful voice and there was always a song "on her lips." Mostly Scot and Irish tunes. In the taverns of Salem, Ohio in the 1850s, there was a play entitled "The Arkansas Traveler". It was about a squatter sitting on a cabin porch trying to remember a tune from New Orleans. The theme was much like the tune and words attributed to Colonel Sandford C Faulkner, who sometimes is called the "Arkansas Traveller". In the song, the fiddler fiddled during a rain where his roof "leaded like a water fall, ...". A stranger chastises the fiddler for not fixing the leaks, to which the fiddler replies, "Get along ... for you give me a pain; My cabin never leaks when it doesn't rain." That was much like a song my Dad loved and would always use as an excuse ... "Mañana!" [tomorrow] Grandma Lester sang so effortlessly. I would mix my songs ... "Tell me a story, tell me a story, and then I'll go to bed!" Ha! But, I loved to hear her sing, "Tell me the tales that to me were so dear, ..." Long, Long ago was written in 1833 by the English songwriter, Thomas Haynes Bayly, and is reputed to have been the most popular song in 1843 America. So clearly can I still hear Grandma sing what has always been a favorite of mine ... "I'll take you Home Again, Kathleen." It was as an adult that I learned that the tune wasn't of Irish origin at all. It was written by a Plainfield, Illinois public school teacher, Thomas Westendorf, in 1875. This tune and "My Grandfather's Clock" shared popularity in 1876. We Americans have a habit of borrowing tunes. The words to "Sweet Betsey" were written to a variant Scottish melody of Lord Randall's. Now when I hear Grandma sing "Oh, do you remember Sweet Betsey frolm Pike ..." I relate to a friend who descends from the man whose name identifies a Colorado peak ... "Pike's Peak". Grandma could sing a sweet, mellow ballad; her voice clear as a bell. As sad as the words might be read, they never sounded sad when coming from her lips. So, Jan, I can hear her yet, ... "Oh, beat the drum slowly and play the fife lowly; And play the dead march as you carry me along; ... [Streets of Laredo]. Satchmo, Louis Armstrong, had a home in Queens, New York where his family lived. He would give front porch/stoop concerts for the neighborhood children. When an "Ice Cream" peddler/vender approached, Satchmo would buy ice cream for the children. What a gentle soul ... Jan's soul was like that. The Armstrong home in Corona, Queens, New York is registered as a National Historic Landmark and is being opened this month [October 15th, 2003] as a museum to honor the Jazz musician. America is rich in musical background; not all original to this country, of course, however, somewhere there is a song in our history for every purpose. I've adapted a few lines above and here below. [With great liberties taken -- editorial substitutions in brackets] Dear Fren' Jan, I can't find you ... "I'll tell you why I can't find you ..." "You gone fishin' ..." "Gone fishin' by a shady wady pool ..." "Papa [Wim] ..." "I stopped by your place a time or two ..." "And you aren't home either ..." "I'm a busy man [Jan], I got [lots] cookin' ..." "Gone fishin' ..." "Got your [cat] by your side ..." "Fleas are bitin' at [it's] hide ..." "Mister [Jan] and Mister [Wim] ..." Someday "[You] [goin'] fishin' instead of just a-wishin' ..." To my everlasting shame, I get so wrapped up in my daily activities that the day is gone before I remember to write to those many, many friends and family. I neglect, as I have with Jan, to write often to family and friends. Werner and PikeGirl and Sons and Daughters and Cousins, ........... I think of you all often ..... very often. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Joyce, One of your tries did come through, and I've even been able to open it! Thanks for sending. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Parish Ridge School Picture > In a message dated 10/19/03 10:09:23 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Jane, I've tried to send you the pic twice to your personal emal, but it > comes back. It may have something that prevents attachments. As you know, we > can't send attachments to the list. Yes, it has a man and woman, but don't know > who they were. I recently sent the pic to the Johnson Co Historical Soc, so > you may be able to see it there soon. > > Joyce > > > > > > Joyce, > > > Does the picture have the teacher in it with the students? If it has the > > male teacher, John Allen Vancil, I would like a copy. > > Thanks > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ >