I believe that H.C. Smart and India are buried in the Concord Cemetery in Johnson County, I have a tape of most of the tombstones there and maybe I can scan it and see if they are there! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Looking for info on SMART surname -- related to Veach, Sharp, Bateman and Waters > I am related to Henry Waters and grew up visiting in their home. Please > email me at [email protected] I have sent your email to one of their > four grandchildren and my aunt, who is Henry's niece. > My mother was a Waters. Her father and Henry were first cousins. > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Cline" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:46 PM > Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Looking for info on SMART surname -- related to Veach, > Sharp, Bateman and Waters > > > > Looking for information on David Richard Smart (also known as D.R. Smart). > > > > He was my gg grandfather. > > > > He was born in Virginia in 1831, served in Company B of the 51st Va. > > infantry in the Civil. He married Nancy Jane Thompson in 1864. They ended > > up in Southern Ill. > > > > They had the following children: > > > > John William Smart > > James Wiley Smart > > Mary Lee Smart who married Frances N. Veach in Johnson Co. 7/09/1898 > > Henry Clayborn Smart who married India Sharp in Johnson Co. 10/02/1898 > > Floyd J. Smart > > Dallas Marion Smart > > David Tildon Smart > > George Huston Smart > > Thomas Edward Smart who married Nellie Bergen Grant in Vienna Ill. > 8/20/1890 > > Mentoria Elizabeth Smart who married Joseph Walter Bateman in simpson > > Illinois 3/19/1911 > > Aliminta Texas Smart who married Henry Waters in southern Ill. > > > > We know that the family was in Johnson county in 1900 but that David > Richard > > had killed himself by then. We believe that he died in 1890 or 91. > > > > We are trying to find information on his parents and siblings if any. Any > > information would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sue Cline > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ >

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 20 June 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #23 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, When I was growing up in the South, there was an oft used term of endearment -- "Grandmother" So-'n-So. These were the elders of families and/or the community and it was the "respectful" term to use. In Southern Illinois, where my Father spent his beginning years, it was shortened a bit to the more familiar term, "Grandma", but it carried the same meaning. I remember Grandma Oliver using the term to refer to my Great Great Grandmother. It was always "Grandma Whittenberg" this and "Grandma Whittenberg" that. Grandma Whittenberg apparently was the matriarch who sat outside on the cabin porch rocking in a chair, shelling peas and watching the young children. She also told the "old" stories some of which have been passed down through Grandma Oliver to us "young'uns". Grandma Oliver always said she wanted to live longer than Grandma Whittenberg. Well, she managed to do just that ... by about twenty years. It is most difficult to hear the tone of voice in the written word. However, I cannot but help hear that reverent tone whenever I read the term -- "Grandmother" So-'n-So. So it is when other words pass before my eyes in reading. "Elder" is such a word, used both as a title in many churches and as a position within a culture. It denotes wisdom [earned or otherwise]. There is something else which happens with such words as Elder or Grandmother. It is the way they are put together which hints at cultural recognition. That which makes one feel as if being addressed by a brethren of the spirit, if not blood. It is what makes me feel a part of a group because they say that they are [or act that if they thought that they are] something, then they are that something. It is much like the saying, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, then it is a duck." While traveling in South Dakota last week, we stopped and ate at a diner named Doo-wah- Ditty's. We loved reading their menu. There were some claims about them and their service which we enjoyed very much. They said about their menu: "You'll notice that unlike other restaurants, we have no pictures of food. That's because we believe our customers can read." They continued about their staff: "We have 33 waitresses on staff, 27 know what they're doing, 5 are new, and one is in a real bad mood. Good Luck!" About the famous they tauted: "No President of the United States admits to visiting this site." For supper, our granddaughter insisted, as only a five year old can, on oat-meal with a scoop of ice cream. The young waitress giggled and said to us, "I was just like that." Now for those who think it strange to put a scoop of ice cream in your bowl of oatmeal; the ice cream serves as adding in cream, in-addition, it serves as the sweetener, and it helps to cool it. It wasn't this grandparent who taught her that. <roar> A fossil is any evidence of ancient life. It might be the actual part of something that lived a long time ago. Our grandson, at eight years, envisions himself as a paleontologist. Now, we have visited the Field Museum in Chicago, where we saw a dinosaur named "Sue" and other ancient bones. Thus, we stopped in Hill City, South Dakota because they tauted a set of bones named "Stan". Folks, if you are interested in such things, let me tell you that the Black Hills Institute of Geological Research, Inc. in Hill City beats the Field Museum hands down. There were more lessons to be learned in that one room than one can imagine. And, it doesn't cost you a "red cent", if you can resist walking out without purchasing something from their gift shop. {I couldn't.] They have a web presence at: www.everythingprehistoric.com/ Oh, "Stan" is larger than "Sue"; it is the largest and most complete male t-rex in the world! In near-by Rapid City, there is The Journey Museum. It illustrates and contains 2.5 billion years of history and culture of the Black Hills. They say it is a "journey" and I will say it is certainly a "trip". After giving due attention to the geological exhibits, I spent an hour and a half with one of the volunteers, Mr Charles Starbuck, viewing and discussing likes and differences of the Eastern and Western native cultures. What a fascinating and cultured gentleman! His in depth knowledge was superb. Among many things, we discussed the trade routes from the very ancient of time(s), which developed this land through its many transitions. I was shown the stages of development of the local peoples and the land they call sacred. As we talked, compared and shared our knowledge it was like adding new stanzas to the song which the land sings to those who listen. As in our personal lives, all the stanzas are not the happiest and there are "Trails of Tears" both east and west of the Mississippi. This trip with grandchildren, though it repeats a similar trip a decade ago with another set of grands, has brought together the "rock hound" [geologist] granddaughter, the "bone hunter" [paleontologist] grandson, and the "cultural historian" [archaeologist] grandparent. Something for everyone .... well, almost .... but then the parents do support "all of the above". <roar> [To be Continuted] e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Fantastic.... I forgot to tell you we are at the Holiday Express in marion room 230 but will be out most of the day visiting Gibert and Ginny Smart my mom's brother and wife. We usually try to get back here by 6pm. I have my cell phone with me 940-453-7215. my other contact info is home phone: 940-482-3581 email: jscline @sprynet.com smail: 6010 Milam Rd. W. Denton, Texas 76207 Where do you live? Is it far from Marion? Sue -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Brown <[email protected]> Sent: Jun 19, 2004 7:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Looking for info on SMART surname -- related to Veach, Sharp, Bateman and Waters I am related to Henry Waters and grew up visiting in their home. Please email me at [email protected] I have sent your email to one of their four grandchildren and my aunt, who is Henry's niece. My mother was a Waters. Her father and Henry were first cousins. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Cline" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Looking for info on SMART surname -- related to Veach, Sharp, Bateman and Waters > Looking for information on David Richard Smart (also known as D.R. Smart). > > He was my gg grandfather. > > He was born in Virginia in 1831, served in Company B of the 51st Va. > infantry in the Civil. He married Nancy Jane Thompson in 1864. They ended > up in Southern Ill. > > They had the following children: > > John William Smart > James Wiley Smart > Mary Lee Smart who married Frances N. Veach in Johnson Co. 7/09/1898 > Henry Clayborn Smart who married India Sharp in Johnson Co. 10/02/1898 > Floyd J. Smart > Dallas Marion Smart > David Tildon Smart > George Huston Smart > Thomas Edward Smart who married Nellie Bergen Grant in Vienna Ill. 8/20/1890 > Mentoria Elizabeth Smart who married Joseph Walter Bateman in simpson > Illinois 3/19/1911 > Aliminta Texas Smart who married Henry Waters in southern Ill. > > We know that the family was in Johnson county in 1900 but that David Richard > had killed himself by then. We believe that he died in 1890 or 91. > > We are trying to find information on his parents and siblings if any. Any > information would be appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > Sue Cline > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

I am related to Henry Waters and grew up visiting in their home. Please email me at [email protected] I have sent your email to one of their four grandchildren and my aunt, who is Henry's niece. My mother was a Waters. Her father and Henry were first cousins. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Cline" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Looking for info on SMART surname -- related to Veach, Sharp, Bateman and Waters > Looking for information on David Richard Smart (also known as D.R. Smart). > > He was my gg grandfather. > > He was born in Virginia in 1831, served in Company B of the 51st Va. > infantry in the Civil. He married Nancy Jane Thompson in 1864. They ended > up in Southern Ill. > > They had the following children: > > John William Smart > James Wiley Smart > Mary Lee Smart who married Frances N. Veach in Johnson Co. 7/09/1898 > Henry Clayborn Smart who married India Sharp in Johnson Co. 10/02/1898 > Floyd J. Smart > Dallas Marion Smart > David Tildon Smart > George Huston Smart > Thomas Edward Smart who married Nellie Bergen Grant in Vienna Ill. 8/20/1890 > Mentoria Elizabeth Smart who married Joseph Walter Bateman in simpson > Illinois 3/19/1911 > Aliminta Texas Smart who married Henry Waters in southern Ill. > > We know that the family was in Johnson county in 1900 but that David Richard > had killed himself by then. We believe that he died in 1890 or 91. > > We are trying to find information on his parents and siblings if any. Any > information would be appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > Sue Cline > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ >

Looking for information on David Richard Smart (also known as D.R. Smart). He was my gg grandfather. He was born in Virginia in 1831, served in Company B of the 51st Va. infantry in the Civil. He married Nancy Jane Thompson in 1864. They ended up in Southern Ill. They had the following children: John William Smart James Wiley Smart Mary Lee Smart who married Frances N. Veach in Johnson Co. 7/09/1898 Henry Clayborn Smart who married India Sharp in Johnson Co. 10/02/1898 Floyd J. Smart Dallas Marion Smart David Tildon Smart George Huston Smart Thomas Edward Smart who married Nellie Bergen Grant in Vienna Ill. 8/20/1890 Mentoria Elizabeth Smart who married Joseph Walter Bateman in simpson Illinois 3/19/1911 Aliminta Texas Smart who married Henry Waters in southern Ill. We know that the family was in Johnson county in 1900 but that David Richard had killed himself by then. We believe that he died in 1890 or 91. We are trying to find information on his parents and siblings if any. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Sue Cline

My late husband is from Johnson Co. IL, although he was born in Bowling Green, KY. His father was born at Hell's Neck in Johnson Co. That is close to Belknap, IL. Sorry about sending that long message back. I know better. I just had a plumber and oh my... Sharon

Dear Susan, Ihave not known connection to your family, (although I have Johnson County roots), but I enjoyed your moving experience finding your ancestors graves. I believe those emotions are what drive all of us to continue our addiction to genealogy!! You told the story well. Peggy Reynolds Oliver ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Carpenter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:32 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] My Roots Tour > > Dear Johnson County researchers, > > Nothing earthshaking but I thought you might like to hear of my experience > two days ago in Johnson County. > > I had driven from Washington, DC to Metropolis, IL to visit with a cousin > who was doing great genealogical research on my paternal family line. When > I was ready to leave on Tuesday morning I thought I would drive up through > Johnson County once in my life and visit the area my mother had often talked > about but I had never seen...Buncombe, Vienna, Joppa... > > All I had for my research was that my great grandmother Rebman was born in > Johnson County and my great grandfather Rebman was buried in a Buncome > cemetery. So off I went for a lovely morning drive. When I came to Buncome > I was behind the rural mail carrier who directed me to a couple of nearby > cemeteries--Mt Zion and another small, and older, one about a mile past Mt. > Zion. I decided to bypass the large Mt Zion site because I was facing a two > day drive back home and it would be fruitless anyhow, right? So on I went. > I had to drive very slowly behind a picturesque Amish family in a buggy > which probably slowed me down enough that I didn't miss the small cemetery > on a nearby hill. > > Out I get and start walking up the hill, just for exercise, scanning right > and left. Near the top of the hill I was intrigued by all the stones that > had obviously just been dug out of the ground and placed as a grave marker, > one or two with a scratched-in name and date. Because I was looking off to > my right, it wasn't until I looked right in front of me that I saw the large > granite headstone with REBMAN cut into the top. What a feeling. It was my > great grandmother, Etta Elkins Rebman, died in 1920. There were no other > Rebman stones so I got my video camera out and took a video scanning to take > in the full view of this beautiful location. Through the camera lens I > noticed a corner of stone under a large flowering bush next to Etta's stone. > As I brushed the cut grass away from the flat marker John Daniel Rebman's > name and birth/death dates came into view. Now I have more than just the > cold facts of birth and death. I discovered my grandfather returned to be > buried beside his wife who had preceeded him by 20 years. > > Like I said, it's not earthshaking, but it seems the fabric of life made a > slight shift for me on Tuesday. > > Any chance there is anyone on this site doing research on Rebman or Elkins? > I know where some graves are. > > Susan Carpenter > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] > >

I also enjoyed what you wrote. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Oliver" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] My Roots Tour > Dear Susan, Ihave not known connection to your family, (although I have > Johnson County roots), but I enjoyed your moving experience finding your > ancestors graves. I believe those emotions are what drive all of us to > continue our addiction to genealogy!! You told the story well. > Peggy Reynolds Oliver > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Carpenter" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:32 PM > Subject: [ILJOHNSO] My Roots Tour > > > > > > Dear Johnson County researchers, > > > > Nothing earthshaking but I thought you might like to hear of my experience > > two days ago in Johnson County. > > > > I had driven from Washington, DC to Metropolis, IL to visit with a cousin > > who was doing great genealogical research on my paternal family line. > When > > I was ready to leave on Tuesday morning I thought I would drive up through > > Johnson County once in my life and visit the area my mother had often > talked > > about but I had never seen...Buncombe, Vienna, Joppa... > > > > All I had for my research was that my great grandmother Rebman was born in > > Johnson County and my great grandfather Rebman was buried in a Buncome > > cemetery. So off I went for a lovely morning drive. When I came to > Buncome > > I was behind the rural mail carrier who directed me to a couple of nearby > > cemeteries--Mt Zion and another small, and older, one about a mile past > Mt. > > Zion. I decided to bypass the large Mt Zion site because I was facing a > two > > day drive back home and it would be fruitless anyhow, right? So on I > went. > > I had to drive very slowly behind a picturesque Amish family in a buggy > > which probably slowed me down enough that I didn't miss the small cemetery > > on a nearby hill. > > > > Out I get and start walking up the hill, just for exercise, scanning right > > and left. Near the top of the hill I was intrigued by all the stones that > > had obviously just been dug out of the ground and placed as a grave > marker, > > one or two with a scratched-in name and date. Because I was looking off > to > > my right, it wasn't until I looked right in front of me that I saw the > large > > granite headstone with REBMAN cut into the top. What a feeling. It was > my > > great grandmother, Etta Elkins Rebman, died in 1920. There were no other > > Rebman stones so I got my video camera out and took a video scanning to > take > > in the full view of this beautiful location. Through the camera lens I > > noticed a corner of stone under a large flowering bush next to Etta's > stone. > > As I brushed the cut grass away from the flat marker John Daniel Rebman's > > name and birth/death dates came into view. Now I have more than just the > > cold facts of birth and death. I discovered my grandfather returned to be > > buried beside his wife who had preceeded him by 20 years. > > > > Like I said, it's not earthshaking, but it seems the fabric of life made a > > slight shift for me on Tuesday. > > > > Any chance there is anyone on this site doing research on Rebman or > Elkins? > > I know where some graves are. > > > > Susan Carpenter > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Do not send Virus warnings to this list. > "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" > [email protected] >

Hi Susan, Are you related to John Elkins and George Elkins who was honored as the oldest farmer in IL and maybe US ? I might have a little info I gathered in old Vienna Times when searching for my families...Sharp, Workman, Trigg, Miller.

Dear Johnson County researchers, Nothing earthshaking but I thought you might like to hear of my experience two days ago in Johnson County. I had driven from Washington, DC to Metropolis, IL to visit with a cousin who was doing great genealogical research on my paternal family line. When I was ready to leave on Tuesday morning I thought I would drive up through Johnson County once in my life and visit the area my mother had often talked about but I had never seen...Buncombe, Vienna, Joppa... All I had for my research was that my great grandmother Rebman was born in Johnson County and my great grandfather Rebman was buried in a Buncome cemetery. So off I went for a lovely morning drive. When I came to Buncome I was behind the rural mail carrier who directed me to a couple of nearby cemeteries--Mt Zion and another small, and older, one about a mile past Mt. Zion. I decided to bypass the large Mt Zion site because I was facing a two day drive back home and it would be fruitless anyhow, right? So on I went. I had to drive very slowly behind a picturesque Amish family in a buggy which probably slowed me down enough that I didn't miss the small cemetery on a nearby hill. Out I get and start walking up the hill, just for exercise, scanning right and left. Near the top of the hill I was intrigued by all the stones that had obviously just been dug out of the ground and placed as a grave marker, one or two with a scratched-in name and date. Because I was looking off to my right, it wasn't until I looked right in front of me that I saw the large granite headstone with REBMAN cut into the top. What a feeling. It was my great grandmother, Etta Elkins Rebman, died in 1920. There were no other Rebman stones so I got my video camera out and took a video scanning to take in the full view of this beautiful location. Through the camera lens I noticed a corner of stone under a large flowering bush next to Etta's stone. As I brushed the cut grass away from the flat marker John Daniel Rebman's name and birth/death dates came into view. Now I have more than just the cold facts of birth and death. I discovered my grandfather returned to be buried beside his wife who had preceeded him by 20 years. Like I said, it's not earthshaking, but it seems the fabric of life made a slight shift for me on Tuesday. Any chance there is anyone on this site doing research on Rebman or Elkins? I know where some graves are. Susan Carpenter

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 6 June 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #22 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, June 6th 1875 [ten years before the birth of Grandma Oliver] marks the birth of Thomas Mann, the German Noble novelist, who was among those of an intellectual movement that sought to bring closer harmony among peoples. Psychologically, a cup of coffee upon rising for the day is a must. Also, all my life I have preferred "real" mayonnaise to that other spread on my bread. I liken it to my Dad's insistence for using butter and not oleomargarine. [Remember those little packets of coloring that had to be mixed with your oleo?] There are few things original, but there are always new things to experience. Barb and I have two Grandchildren graduating from High School this week. The following story is my commencement address to them. It is about mayonnaise and coffee. I heard this story some years ago and recently read a copy. Unfortunately, I do not know the author. It begins: A college professor standing before his philosophy class had some items lying in front of him on the desk. When the class began, he picked up a large [very large ... restaurant size] and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls. He then asked the students if the jar was full. Without debate they agreed that it was so. The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar. The pebbles rolled into the open areas between the golf balls. He shook the jar gently, to allow the maximum number of pebbles to enter the jar. He then asked the students again if the jar was full. They agreed that it was. The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Once more, with a little shaking, the sand filled up any remaining space. Once again he asked the students if the jar was full. They responded with an unanimous "yes". The professor then produced two cups of coffee from one of the lower desk drawers and poured the entire contents into the jar, effectively filling the empty spaces between the sand. Riotous laughter was the reaction of the students. When the laughter had subsided, the professor said, "Now, I want you to recognize that this jar represents your life. The golf balls are the important things -- your God, your Family, your future children, your health, your friends, and your favorite passions -- things that if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full. The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house, and your car. The sand is everything else -- all that small stuff. "If you put the sand into the jar first," he continued, "there is not room for the pebbles or the golf balls. The same goes for life. If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the things that are important to you. Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness. Play with your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Take your partner out to dinner. Play another 18 holes. There will always be time to clean the house and fix the disposal. "Take care of the golf balls first, the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just sand." At this point one of the students raised a hand and asked what the coffee represented. The professor exhibited a slow smile and a twinkle in his eye. "I'm glad you asked. It just goes to show you that no matter how full your life may seem, there's always room for a couple of cups of coffee with a friend." So, Kate and Blake, congratulations and when things in your life seem almost two much to handle, when twenty-four hours in a day are not enough, remember the mayonnaise jar, and the coffee. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: It is my intention to take a week off. See you on the 20th of June. = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 30 May 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #21 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, I just received word that my cousin in Peducah, KY heard what sounded like a train roaring toward her home. She reports that there indeed was a tornado which did some damage to their home. We hope nothing more serious to everyone in that area. Today is Decoration Day; the day we remember those who have died in our nation's service. We call it Memorial Day now. Everyone has their favorite story as to how it all began. The earliest known decorating the graves of soldiers were by southern women's groups before the close of the hostilities of the Civil War. President Lyndon Johnson declared [officially] the Memorial Day birthplace as Waterloo, NY in 1966. In 1868, General John Logan, as National Commander of the Grand Army of the Republic proclaimed on May 5th in the General Order No. 11, that on 30 May 1868, flowers were to be placed on the graves of Union and Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. Though it all began as honoring those who died fighting int the Civil War, it was changed to honoring all Americans who died fighting in any war following World War I. When I was a boy, they sold poppies to be worn on Memorial Day to honor those who died. It became a tradition to sell poppies for Memorial Day with the proceeds going to the benefit of servicemen in need. This idea spread to France, where artificial flowers were made and sold for the benefit of war orphaned children and widowed women. The original meaning of the day has diminished in the minds and hearts of many Americans. In December 2000, the National Moment of Remembrance resolution was passed. This resolution asks all Americans to stop for a moment and observe remembrance and respect at 3 p.m. I noticed in my Sunday comics section that Garry Trudeau used six frames of the Doonesbury strip to list those who gave their lives in Iraq. He used their Christian names; not their initials. To restore the original meaning to Memorial Day, there are two bills laying in Congress; Senate Bill S189 and House Bill HR1474 which have never gotten out of committee. Well, very distant cousin, John Logan gets my thanks for his input for this day. Dad was a career Marine and served in WWII and Korea. But, I also like to remember Mom. Her name was May, not "Rosie", but she did what was encouraged for women during World War II, she worked in a factory for the War Effort. I can still see her walking along the Anthony Wayne Trail in Toledo, Ohio from Grandma's home to Bunting Brass and Bronze Company. There she made brass casings for artillery shells and bushings for airplanes. I also remember those full pants Mom wore in those days. Mom was one of six million "Rosies". The Rosie icon symbolized the strength and unwaivering support of our country. So while Dad was overseas doing his part, so Mom did her part on the home front filling in for those men who were overseas. The pay was somewhere in the neighborhood of thirty plus dollars a week. Mom used much of it to pay off debts of the Depression days. A couple of years ago, the most famous of the Rosie paintings was sold at auction for almost five million dollars. It was the painting of Rosie the Riveter by Norman Rockwell. To see it and read the story behind it, visit <http://www.rosietheriveter.org/painting.htm>. Bless all who have served this country in what ever capacity. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

For those of you researching the Thomas Murrie clan of Johnson Co. IL, I have the following: Charles Monroe Murrie, born July 16, 1924 to Newton Jasper Murrie and Julia Edna Kerley died of cancer around 8:30 p.m. CST on May 18, 2004 in his home in Mesa AZ.. He had been fighting cancer for 3 years. He was cremated. He did not want a service nor did he want his obit in the paper. This info is from his daughter living in Mesa,AZ. Leona Emma Murrie, wife of the late Deral Murrie, died on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 at her home in Bellevue MI. She was born April 11, 1921 in Marengo Township to Harry T. And Harriett E. Felter. She married Deral Lee Murrie, oldest son of Newton Jasper Murrie and Julia Edna Kerley on March 1, 1941 in Bryan, Ohio. (This info is from her obit.) Terry Ceballos Grand Prairie,TX "Oh, what a tangled mess you see, If you take a peek at my family tree!" http://hairball.fws1.com/

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 23 May 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #20 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Daniel Radcliffe [Harry Potter] recently was interviewed and is attributed as saying that he wasn't a reader before reading the first Harry Potter book but has now gone on to reading other books. Our youngest grandchild, about to turn six years, is constantly asking what this or that word is. She reads every printed word she finds. Her reading curiosity is insatiable. Reading is probably the greatest thing to do, next to maybe writing. I fully admit that I learn something when I pick up a book, or a newspaper, or open a letter. In fact, last week I was reading an article by my favorite columnist, Roberta DeBoer, in The Blade, Toledo's daily newspaper. She was writing about the dismantling of a backyard swing set long used by her daughter. Ms DeBoer was describing an event in her family that would [or at least should] become a recording of treasure. A story that will live on into future generations. It is one of life's small details that characterizes our existence. It belongs in a family "scrapbook" or history. My wife began a notebook many years ago containing the cute and riotous sayings of our children. These bring back many fond memories. Following that, we began memory books for our grandchildren. They contain the trips and events that we, the grandparents, and those children shared. They contain such pictures and accounts, such as the great salt flats when they looked like a great sea ... the surface was covered with a couple inches of water. The pictures show two grandchildren wading. Memories like these are the very first things to slip away and time flies by so quickly in the hectic days we all live. These books serve as "scrapbooks" of memories. Scrapbook is a modern operative word which has turned into a huge craft industry. Today, scrapbooks are a throwback to past generations. That industry would convince us that they must be made of "acid-free" paper and that pages must be fashioned ever so artistically. Well, the acid-free sheets are OK, but too much artistic endeavor really does take most of the fun out of it in addition to detracting from the memory it preserves. It could well be that this modern craze is a type of resistence of our high-speed/high-tech world of computers, palm-pilots, pagers and cell-phones. It is wonderful to turn pages of memory books and reminisce. Our family made a scrapbook for my Mother-in-Law for her 80th birthday celebration. We put many pictures in it and each relative and friend wrote something to place in it. Today, our Son-in-Law handed me a two page written essay that our daughter had written for that occasion. He had found her copy and thought that I would appreciate having it for our family history. It did bring some lumps to my throat. Archivists, those professionals that preserve our famous historical documents, advise us to file our documents away in dust-free, archival paper and never let it see the light of day. They are concerned with exposure to temperature, light, dust, and the acid contained in our former ways to preserve documents. However, what good is Grandma's picture if her great grandchildren never see it? With our modern tech equipment we can scan our pictures and documents and print them. We can then store the originals in such archival materials as we wish and still display them out where they can be appreciated. Scrapbooks can be purchased and usually come in sizes like 12 X 12 inches, even 14 X 18 inches. However, they also come in 8 ½ X 11 inches. This size is easier for older folks to handle and also convenient for copying. Old black and white photos can be arranged on pages of muted color and soft design to enhance their attractiveness. However, it is not the best of ideas to use complicated backgrounds, they tend to detract from the heritage being preserved. It is Graduation time. We have two grandchildren graduating in the next couple of weeks. Yesterday we had a picnic party to celebrate one's graduation and birthday. I took some pictures and when I got home yesterday I edited them and put them on a CD. Today, on her real birthday, at her choir concert, I gave this disk to her to help build her scrapbook. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 16 May 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #19 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, On this date in 1975, Japanese climber Junko Tabei became the first woman to reach the summit of Mount Everest. An admiral feat. Many of our ancestral grandmothers married very young by our modern standards. On May the sixteenth in 1770, Marie Antoinette, age 14, married the future King Louis XVI of France, who was 15. My Grandma's Mother was also married at fourteen, and when she married my Great Grandpa, it was her third marriage and she was 24 years old. Grandma Oliver waited until she was seventeen to marry Grandpa. As prices for gasoline rose this week to more than two dollars a gallon and I read about the supposed reasons for this, I was reminded that another rise in cost of a petroleum derivative occurred about the time Grandma Oliver was six years old. Though candles and various oils, such as whale oil, were still used, it was in the 1860s that kerosene was in widespread use for lighting the homes in this country. I remember kerosene lamps being used in the homes of many of my non-city dwelling relatives. Kerosene lamps were filthy black each morning and had to be cleaned. This was one of my chores when visiting overnight or longer. There also was the smell of the kerosene. The wicks needed trimming after each use. And, to top it off, this fuel was "highly" flammable ... kerosene was dangerous. Urban dwellers, at least those who could afford the installation and lived near available sources, began using gaslight. It was cleaner and much less demanding. Still, most Americans of the late 1800s could not afford gas for lighting, and continued to use kerosene lamps. Just as individuals could not afford gaslight, collectively they could afford gaslight for street lights and installation in other public places, such as schools, train stations, hospitals, government buildings. Various types of business also could afford the installation for gaslight ... hotels, factories, barrooms, theaters, department stores, etc. With the invention of the incandescent electric light bulb, gas companies went into panic mode. As electric power began to replace gas as the illumination source, gas companies began to consolidate and raise their prices while reducing the quality of the fuel. The year Grandma Oliver was born [1885], the Consolidated Gas Company raised its prices a whopping 25%. Gas company users formed Associations and in New York, demanded that the legislature investigate price gouging. An article in the Harper's Weekly for May 14, 1881 commented that the gas industry "...make[s] just what gas they please, charge what they want for it, and slap the customer's face, so to speak, if he dares to protest against either the quality or the price." A subsiding of public outrage occurred in New York with legislature capping the price of gas and the establishment of new competing gas companies. In the early years of the last century, gas began to be used in American homes, not for illumination, but for use in home appliances such as stoves, water heaters and furnaces. As we utilize new and "better" products we alter our behavior. Technology ... the innovative technology of gas and electricity with light fixtures throughout our homes and central heating has allowed our family members their space, or allowed for the separation of the family. The traditional forms of lighting with fireplaces, kerosene and oil lamps, and candles brought the members of a family into close proximity to each other. Always there are tradeoffs which force us into new ways of relationships. Speaking of such, before we owned a telephone in the home, when Grandma needed to complain about an electric bill, she would take a twenty minute bus ride to the corporate office to speak with a person with authority to take action. Today it takes longer than that to reach a "real" person at the corporate office, in whatever unknown location, who has no authority to take any action. That's progress! <grin> e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 2 May 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #18 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, In "America" we have grown with the idea that this was the land of opportunity and that anyone could rise above his birth station in society. It has to be recognized that there are few social systems that are so rigid that the possibility of rising to higher classes is impossible. In the feudal systems of the past, if ambition drove a youth he might attend a university if he could find the means. Thus, he could prepare himself for a position in the state or the church. Also, he could, by moving to "town" earn and save enough money to become a burgher and thus elevate himself into the gentry class. It is true, however, that these avenues from one's inherited status or position were arduous paths and few at that. I pondered this during the week, in aa effort to discover what country life was like in the 1600s for my ancestry in the lowlands of Scotland and what it was like after they arrived in this country during the same 1600s. They both apparently liked rural isolated lifestyles. It is most difficult to imagine either lifestyle stripped of romanticism, but not impossible from the facts. Country life was mean and is difficult to conceive in this twenty-first century. In our early history pioneers clustered close for mutual protection. In the lowlands, a cluster of hovels supported the tenants and their helpers. A home most likely was constructed with field stones, banked with turf. No mortar was used but straw, heather or moss was stuffed into the "cracks" to keep out the "blasts" [of wind]. The roof was thatch or turf and the floor was earth. There was no chimney, but rather a hole in the peak of the roof to let smoke escape. Because the roof eventually became smoke clotted the room was often filled with clouds of smoke. As in very ancient of days, animals were tethered in one section of the room at night while the family slept at the other end. Not the most sanitary of situations. Yet, with the animals and vermin thus occupying the room, it was "warm" [so to speak]. Disease was propagated since the people had no knowledge of germs or the spread of disease or sanitary precautions or quarantine. It was a practice on the Sabbath for neighbors to gather at the hut of the sick to extend sympathy. The hovels would become stifling with heat and the visitors would walk away as carriers of disease. Small pox was a particularly devastating recurrent illness. Much like our western plains, the Scottish Lowlands were nearly treeless; unlike our Black Swamp of northwestern Ohio or the swamps of Southern Illinois. Thus, wood was valuable enough to salvage from one abode to another. However, like our swamp areas, the Lowland swamps, bogs and morasses were breeding grounds for mosquitoes and Malaria was common. Rheumatism was also a constant companion of these folks. The work had to be done in wet weather as in fair. Clothes were seldom changed, thus wet clothing was worn indoors and the Rheumatis' a common complaint. Houses had little furniture. Beds were bundles of straw and heather laid out on the floor. Often seats were flat boulders. Although plaid and bonnet [types of material] were the usual dress, some folk were forced to wear animal skins for clothing. From what I can discern, plaid was at first the crisscrossing of the natural white and black wool yarns to form a pattern. Black being the less available it was used intermittently. Flax was grown in some places, but the preferred means for material making was wool made into yarn. April 26th, 1607 marks the expedition of English colonists coming ashore at Cape Henry, Va., to establish the first permanent English settlement in the Western Hemisphere. Also in 1785 naturalist and artist John James Audubon was born in Haiti. In 1900, Seismologist Charles Richter was born in Hamilton, Ohio. On 27 April 1865, the steamer Sultana exploded on the Mississippi River near Memphis, Tenn., killing more than 1,400 Union prisoners of war and in 1822, Ulysses S. Grant, the 18th president of the United States, was born in Point Pleasant, Ohio. The only woman that I know that could really sing the National Anthem was born on the first of May 1907. However, that National Anthem was not the Star Spangled Banner, it was "God Bless America". When President Roosevelt introduced her to King George VI of England, he did so by saying, "Miss Smith is America". Would you believe she lived with her real name her entire life? She was born Kathryn Elizabeth Smith. Though she did not talk until she was aged four years, she was singing in her church at age five. On November 11, 1938, Kate Smith sang the song written especially for her by Irving Berlin .... "God Bless America". From that time forward she was associated with patriotism and patriotic themes. In one 18-hour session or broadcasting marathon, she inspired Americans to buy $107 million dollars worth of War Bonds for World War II. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Here are my Ward / Edwards families in Johnson County: 1910: 24 November, Willis A. Edwards of Bloomfield, Johnson County, Illinois, Laborer, 22, born in White County, Illinois, son of McCollister and Emma Edwards, marries Mary E. Rion, 18 born Johnson County, Illinois, daughter of William Rion of Bloomfield, Illinois. The Edith Edwards listed below is the sister in law of this McCollister Edwards, so she is Willis A. Edwards' aunt. 1920 Federal Census, Johnson County, Illinois, Cache Township, "Belknap Village" Family #119: Ward, Harve, 24, married, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois, Laborer, Timber & Farm Ward, Hazel, 19, born Indiana, mother and father born Illinois Ward, Harvey O., 1-11/12, born Illinois, father born Illinois, mother born Indiana Edwards, Edith, Mother-in-law, 64, widow, born Illinois, mother and father born Illinois. And about my great-uncle, Fred Edwards, son of Edith Edwards and cousin of Willis A. Edwards . . . August, 1933: Johnson County, Illinois Criminal File Box 114, Change of venue from (Harrisburg?), Fred Edwards convicted of statutory rape in 1933 and served time at the Southern Illinois Penitentiary in Johnson County. Witnesses called were Margie Edwards, Lillian Edwards, Lorena Lindsey, Floyd Rose (New Columbia), and Mr. Thunderberger (Old Man), Mermet, Ill. The file does not yeild detail other than the girl was 14, named Nellie House. Believe it said she was a willing participant, but was a minor. I believe the crime took place in Harrisburg, but they requested a change of venue. I did not copy all papers. November, 1933: Johnson County, Illinois Box 82, Chancery #2264: Francis Edwards files for divorce from Fred Edwards. Her deposition yields the following: She lives in Belknap, Illinois, and has for 2 years. She married Fred Edwards 14 April, 1928. He was convicted of statutory rape 29 August 1933, and is serving time at the Southern Illinois Penitentiary in Johnson County, Illinois. No children. Her maiden name is Francis Burnam, and she wishes to change her name back. Any connection? Debbie Ward McArdle ----- Original Message ----- From: Rebel Kreklow To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: RE: [ILJOHNSO] WARD CHAPMAN Picture, Johnson Co families Debbie McArdle..... You wrote Have you any other photos with the following surnames from Karnak / Belknap / Vienna area: > WARD > MORSE > EDWARDS > BEGGS May I ask which Johnson County "Edwards" family are you interested in? Regards, Rebel Kreklow ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

Debbie, the only Kentucky info that I have on Simeon Berry is a tax list from Calloway County 1830. But perhaps he had family in Woodford? I do not know. Sincerely Jeffrey www.tracingtrees.com -----Original Message----- From: Debbie & Jim McArdle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILJOHNSO] Berry family Jeffrey: From what county in Kentucky? I am researching the Berry family of Woodford County, KY. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Campbell To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Berry family Trying to establish contact with someone who is researching Simeon BERRY and family. Simeon came from Kentucky in the early 1850's, and died there in Johnson Co in 1880. I could not locate a paper death cert in Johnson Co, but there may be one in Williamson Co. Anyone researching Simeon, please establish contact. Sincerely Jeffrey www.tracingtrees.com ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/ ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Do not send Virus warnings to this list. "Problems with Johnson Co IL Mail List email Tim Casey" [email protected]

Jeffrey: From what county in Kentucky? I am researching the Berry family of Woodford County, KY. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Campbell To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Berry family Trying to establish contact with someone who is researching Simeon BERRY and family. Simeon came from Kentucky in the early 1850's, and died there in Johnson Co in 1880. I could not locate a paper death cert in Johnson Co, but there may be one in Williamson Co. Anyone researching Simeon, please establish contact. Sincerely Jeffrey www.tracingtrees.com ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/

Mara: Lt. Ward Chapman must be a descendent of my g-g-aunt, Anne Ward, born 1812, died in Vienna 1904. Her son, John Ward Copeland had a daughter, Lenora May Copeland who married P. T. Chapman - she beingn Mrs. P. T. Chapman who wrote the book about Johnson County. Lt. Ward Chapman must be her son. Anne Ward Copland Calhoon lived with the Chapmans until she died in 1904, which may be why Lt. Ward Chapman has such a name. I would love to have the photo. What is the charge? Have you any other photos with the following surnames from Karnak / Belknap / Vienna area: WARD MORSE EDWARDS BEGGS Thanks for making these photos available. Debbie Ward McArdle ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: [ILJOHNSO] Pictures Johnson Co families Once again I have been looking through old pictures. I have several that I would love to pair up with families. Most of the pictures were probably taken during the late 1800s to early 1900's. Let me know. Thanks Mara Picture of: 1. Harry Carter Sr., Harry Perkins, and Bev Parker. 2. Allard Farris 3. George Burris 4. Graduating Class of Charles Jones Huffman, picture probably taken about 1898/1899 when he would have been 16/17. 4 women and 4 boys and one male who appears he may be the teacher. 5. Lt. Ward Chapman 6. Bertha Veach 7. Hugh Wallace 8. Robert, Fan, Ned Looney 9. Martha Louise Boren 10. Martha Louis Harbrecht 11. Will Jackson, Charlie Huffman, Ernest Moore. 12. Juliett Rodman Snyder & May Snyder 13. Mary Rodman Snyder 14. George Palmer 15. Milo Palmer 16. Maud Allard Sutton 17. Mary Ann Jones, Zona Axelson, and Maud McConnel 18. Rev. L. S. McKowen 19. Cunningham family ==== ILJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Visit the Official Johnson Co IL ILGenWeb Site! http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljohnso/