Jeannie: Thanks so much for your info 7/9/01. I do believe that Luis George is the father of Sopha (Sophia) George and it also shows a sister Eva. No mother is listed . Because of other relatives listed in Hanover (Farwell) and they worked in the woolen Mill I think there is a connection. If anyone has any further info on the George's I would appreciate it. Luis George born in Ohio 1815 wife (?) daughter Sophia (Sopha) born in Illinois 1859 Could someone check the Ill census in 1860 for mother and etc. Thanks. Loretta

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Looking for information on Samuel Miller b 1800 PA, wife Elizabeth b 1813 PA, Ch: George, John, Ellen, Agnes, all b PA, Melinda b 1843 IL, Lavinia b PA. All in Irish Hollow in 1850 census. Any help appreciated.

I am seeking information on Sheriff John Bardell and his wife Anna Holland. John was killed in the line of duty as a JoDavies County Sheriff in I believe in 1915. These would be my Great Granparents. I would like to fiind out who his parents were. I would also like to find out whom the parents of Anna Holland were. I know they had 7 children Walter, Mabel, Alma, Luella, Viola,John or Louis or both I'm not sure. And My Grandmother Lillian or Lilia She married A Theodore David Rinehart in 1924 in Belvidere IL , I know that they ran a restaraunt on a hill in Galena...... I would be happy if someone could help me fill in the many blanks on this family tree ...... Thank you in advance for any help that you could give me

Hi, My g g grandfather was born in Ontario, Canada 1792. He and his family were living in Harwick Twp, Kent Co, Ontario, Canada in 1834. They were in Winnebago Co, IL - 1840 census and in Jo Davies Co, IL - 1850 census. George died in Apple River, IL 1866. His first wife may have died in Winnebago Co., she is not listed on 1850 census; her first name was Margaret. I would like to know her family surname, I have not been able to find their marriage record in Canada. I would also like to know where they are buried. Their children were Leah, Abram, Adam, John James, Elias, Nancy, Margaret, Walter, & Mary. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Coral Draxten -- [email protected]

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1 John V. Eckstein 1841 - 1909 b: September 22, 1841 d: February 01, 1909 in Jo Daviess Co., Illinois +Mary Moyle 1846 - 1939 b: July 25, 1846 in Cornwall, England m: August 17, 1865 in Jo Daviess Co., Illinois d: September 13, 1939 in Jo Daviess, Illinois 2 Hattie Eckstein 1867 - 1952 b: November 1867 d: 1952 in Jo Daviess, Illinois .... +Alfred John Knuckey 1864 - 1936 b: November 1864 m: February 22, 1888 in Jodaviess Co., Illinois d: 1936 in Jo Daviess, Illinois .... 3 Alfred J. Knuckey 1889 - 1979 b: April 13, 1889 d: December 1979 .... 3 M. H. Blanche Knuckey 1895 - b: March 1895 2 Ida Eckstein 1869 - 1957 b: Abt. 1869 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois d: Abt. 1957 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois .... +George Shermon Lupton 1868 - 1941 b: Abt. 1868 d: Abt. 1941 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois .... 3 George Albert Lupton 1898 - 1964 b: Abt. 1898 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois d: Abt. 1964 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois 2 Carrie E. Eckstein 1871 - 1919 b: September 20, 1871 in Jo Daviess Co., Illinois d: December 26, 1919 .... +August Roth 1862 - 1936 b: January 20, 1862 d: October 28, 1936 in Jo Daviess Co., Illinois .... 3 John A. Roth 1893 - 1973 b: September 29, 1893 d: January 31, 1973 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois 2 Wilber F. Eckstein 1874 - 1925 b: May 06, 1874 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois d: August 18, 1925 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois 2 Harry T. Eckstein 1877 - 1902 b: August 09, 1877 d: February 22, 1902 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois 2 Walter V. Eckstein 1879 - 1942 b: November 03, 1879 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois d: April 02, 1942 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois 2 Myrtle J. Eckstein 1883 - b: December 1883 .... +C. G. Hillmer 2 Neta M. Eckstein 1887 - 1960 b: October 30, 1887 d: March 10, 1960 in JoDaviess Co., Illinois

I have his children. My interest was in his wife.

Galena is in the Northwest corner of Illinois. In JoDaviess County.

>From the Lena Star Newspaper, March 13, 1903, page 1, col. 3: JAMES PIERCE ENDS ALL WELL KNOWN CITIZEN OF NORA DIES BY HIS OWN HAND FINANCIAL LOSSES AND TROUBLES THE CAUSE OF THE RASH ACT – PISTOL BALL BRINGS RELIEF – HE LEAVES A LETTER James Pierce, well known Nora citizen, shot and killed himself Friday morning early. He had been despondent for several weeks but relatives and friends never dreamed that he entertained ideas of suicide. A little son fell into a water tank about a year ago and drowned and that sad accident weighed heavily upon his mind. He never appeared to be the same afterwards. Lately he had been speculating on the board of trade and his losses added to his despondency. The recent decline in the wheat market brought him to the verge of ruin and he decided to end all. He acted very queer all day Thursday. He talked of taking a trip somewhere but did not appear to know just where. He got up during the night, stating that he could not sleep. He went down stairs, dressed and shaved himself, and made every arrangement for the end. He took his time to it. wrote a letter and then laid down on the lounge. He crossed his feet, folded one hand over his breast and placed the muzzle of his pistol back of his ear. He pulled the trigger and it was all over. Apparently he never moved a muscle. His wife heard the report of the pistol and hurried down stairs and found him – dead. The letter, written before he left all that was dear to him, was as follows: Nora, Ill, March 6, 1903 Dear wife and relatives and friends: -- I must have rest and if my trusty pistol does not err I will soon have it. I suffer the torments of hell privately. Option deals primary cause. Bury me quietly anywhere under the sun and out of the sight of man. James Pierce Mr. Pierce was 51 years of age and came to this part of the country from Ohio when he was a boy. He was a son of Mrs. Scanlan of this city and is survived by the widow and seven children. Mrs. Scannell of Lanark, and Mrs. Sullivan of Nora are sisters of the deceased. The deceased was a farmer and resided on the A.B. Meyers farm, two miles from Nora. He formerly lived on the Upton farm. Years ago, while in comfortable circumstances, he speculated on the board of trade and lost everything. Friends started him and he began over. He never forgot his losses and always claimed that he would get his money back as soon as he was financially able to get on the board. He began speculating recently and the decline in wheat proved too great for his resources and he was again ruined. He evidently felt that he was not a success on the board and the thoughts that the savings of years had been swept away unbalanced his mind, which had been affected by bereavement, and ca! used him to commit the rash act. The coroner held and inquest Friday and a verdict was returned in accordance with the above facts. The funeral services were held at the late home Sunday morning. The interment took place in the Catholic cemetery in this city. Fortunately the deceased was well insured and the family will be left in fair circumstances.

Ellen married Timothy F. Scannell, born 1862, died 1947. They had one child, a girl, Julia, born in 1901 and died 1949. Ellen, Timothy and Julia Scannell are buried in St. Joseph’s Cemetery, Lena Illinois. The Scannell stones are immediately in front of the Scanlan stone, in front of the larger tombstone for Julia E. Scanlan, b. 1831, d. 1909. I believe Julia E. Scanlan was the mother of James Pierce. His obituary in the March 13, 1903 Lena Star refers to his mother, Mrs. Scanlan of Lena, and two sisters, Mrs. Scannell of Lanark and Mrs. Sullivan of Nora. If you have any information on this family, I would love to hear from you. I am particularly stumped as to James' father. Thanks in advance

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Anette, I would be interested in any information on Anna Harwick. I beleive she is the daughter of Louis and Laura (Conley) Eversoll. I also believe she had as least two daughters, Anne and Viola. A son by the name of Elmer would not surprise me as she had a brother by that name. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future, would love to be able to share information. Dorothy

Wow! What an incredible experience! So incredible that I'd like to share it with everyone. By this evening I received 51 responses to the message I sent last night. I will give a brief rundown of the nature of the responses. 1 person provided me with Jake's e-mail address. I am copying him on this message and including my and his original messages below so that he can put the results in perspective. 36 people agreed with me outright. Many thanked me for saying what they hadn't. 2 of these people asked me about my lineage. I will be responding to them this weekend. 2 people didn't understand my message. 1 County Coordinator asked for my permission to forward my message to the County Coordinator's List. 2 County Coordinators said my message would never be read by anyone at RootsWeb or Ancestry.com. 4 people offered help in getting around the new system. 3 people were offended by my language. For that I apologize. I certainly could have used a better choice of words and still had the same impact. I have reworded my original message below to avoid offending them again. 1 person responded with no message. 2 responses were received with a virus infected attachment. These appeared to come from the same person. Fortunately, my Norton AntiVirus issued warnings immediately that the attachments were infected. Thank you all for the kind words of support. I hope sending my original message and copying the results to Mr. Gehring will affect changes at RootsWeb in a positive way. I will also be very happy to provide copies of these messages to Jake, without the senders' names, of course, unless I receive permission from those who sent them. At times keeping it simple can be a very difficult task. I have been programming for users since 1983 and have always tried to adhere to one very simple credo -- Get the user to his destination in three steps or less. There are times when it takes some deep thinking but it can usually be done. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray W. Justus" <[email protected]> To: RootsWeb Mailing Lists Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Re: Message from Rootsweb Jake, I don't know if this message has a snowball's chance in in that proverbial hot place of reaching you but I pray that it does. I appreciate your comments about the ease of use of the new search capabilities but there is one thing that has left me dumbfounded the past several weeks. Why in the world do you want to make it so difficult for us to get to the point where we can do a search? Whenever I click on a button at a RootsWeb County site that says Queries, Bios, Obits, Pensions, Wills, Bible Records or Deeds, I am directed to a cryptic page that is titled in bold letters "Message Boards" and provides me with absolutely no information. I can then start an endless drill down to the other side of the earth or say, "Balderdash!" and go elsewhere. Do you have anyone on staff that actually does genealogy research? I think it is time for your whole crew to fall back and regroup. The status quo is headed straight down the tubes. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ ------------------------- Jake's Original Message ------------------------- MESSAGE FROM THE ROOTSWEB HOME OFFICE by Jake Gehring, RootsWeb Executive Producer Our message boards improvements continue this week. My comments regard the search features in the new system. Sometimes certain boards and the messages they contain have been moved since they were initially indexed -- when you search and try to view posts, you get an error message asking you to check back in a few hours. In some cases this message lasts a lot longer than expected. We're changing the error message and working hard to fix the underlying problem. I'll report the status of this issue next week. 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I found Lanark in Carroll County which is the adjacent county south of Jo Daviess County. It east of Savannah, Illinois. I hope this helps. Liz

I apologize to everyone for the incomplete message I just sent. Let's try it again. Jake, I don't know if this message has a snowball's chance in hell of reaching you but I pray that it does. I appreciate your comments about the ease of use of the new search capabilities but there is one thing that has left me dumbfounded the past several weeks. Why, in God's name, do you want to make it so difficult for us to get to the point where we can do a search? Whenever I click on a button at a RootsWeb County site that says Queries, Bios, Obits, Pensions, Wills, Bible Records or Deeds, I am directed to a cryptic page that is titled in bold letters "Message Boards" and provides me with absolutely no information. I can then start an endless drill down to the other side of the earth or say, "The H___ with it!" and go elsewhere. Do you have anyone on staff that actually does genealogy research? I think it is time for your whole crew to fall back and regroup. The status quo is headed straight down the tubes. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ --------------------------- Original Message ------------------------ MESSAGE FROM THE ROOTSWEB HOME OFFICE by Jake Gehring, RootsWeb Executive Producer Our message boards improvements continue this week. My comments regard the search features in the new system. Sometimes certain boards and the messages they contain have been moved since they were initially indexed -- when you search and try to view posts, you get an error message asking you to check back in a few hours. In some cases this message lasts a lot longer than expected. We're changing the error message and working hard to fix the underlying problem. I'll report the status of this issue next week. Generally, however, we hope that you are impressed with the new search features. The new system shows search results ranked by relevance -- meaning that the system will display the best hits first. For example, messages that contain all of your terms are ranked higher than those that contain only some. Here are a couple of additional search tips: Wildcard Searching. The new message boards allow wildcard searching as long as the user specifies at least the first three characters in the word (i.e., users can search for "gehr*" to find "gehring, gehrig, gehrke," etc.). Search Operators. New functionality allows users to add powerful operators to their search terms to affect results. These operators, the plus and minus signs, are placed just before your search terms and function like popular Internet search engines Yahoo! and AltaVista. If you put a plus (+) sign in front of any word, that word *must* appear in a message for it to be a match. If there are terms that you want to exclude (you don't want to see messages in which these terms appear), you can place a minus sign (-) in front of them. For example, a search for "+gehring heinrich -baden" will return only those hits that contain the word "gehring" but not the word "baden", and in this group any messages containing "heinrich" will be displayed before those that don't.

Jake, I don't know if this message has a snowball's chance in hell of reaching you but I pray that it does. I appreciate your comments about the ease of use of the new search capabilities but there is one thing that has left me dumbfounded the past several weeks. Why, in God's name, do you want to make it so difficult for us to get to the point where we can do a search? -------------------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------------- MESSAGE FROM THE ROOTSWEB HOME OFFICE by Jake Gehring, RootsWeb Executive Producer Our message boards improvements continue this week. My comments regard the search features in the new system. Sometimes certain boards and the messages they contain have been moved since they were initially indexed -- when you search and try to view posts, you get an error message asking you to check back in a few hours. In some cases this message lasts a lot longer than expected. We're changing the error message and working hard to fix the underlying problem. I'll report the status of this issue next week. Generally, however, we hope that you are impressed with the new search features. The new system shows search results ranked by relevance -- meaning that the system will display the best hits first. For example, messages that contain all of your terms are ranked higher than those that contain only some. Here are a couple of additional search tips: Wildcard Searching. The new message boards allow wildcard searching as long as the user specifies at least the first three characters in the word (i.e., users can search for "gehr*" to find "gehring, gehrig, gehrke," etc.). Search Operators. New functionality allows users to add powerful operators to their search terms to affect results. These operators, the plus and minus signs, are placed just before your search terms and function like popular Internet search engines Yahoo! and AltaVista. If you put a plus (+) sign in front of any word, that word *must* appear in a message for it to be a match. If there are terms that you want to exclude (you don't want to see messages in which these terms appear), you can place a minus sign (-) in front of them. For example, a search for "+gehring heinrich -baden" will return only those hits that contain the word "gehring" but not the word "baden", and in this group any messages containing "heinrich" will be displayed before those that don't.

By now there have probably been several helpful folks who emailed that Lanark is in Carrol Co. A few of my own JOD.Co. ancestors are buried at the Lanark Cem. It is really huge. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Hi Listers, I'm new to this list and have the following surnames from the Carroll County and JoDaviess County areas, as well as Dubuque, starting in IL about 1848. Ahrendt,Ballough,Baus,Bishop,Colin,Earl,Haas,Haggert,Hense,Irmscher,Jackson,Ke lleher,Lieb, McGrath, Miller, Paul, Rawlings,Schoenhard, Sopher, Tinkham, Walsh, Wilson My knowledge starts with George Haas (1801-1889) and Agatha Lieb (1804/9-1882) came from Dettingen, Wurttemberg, Germany with two daughters, Mary Ann (wed John Baus) and Jane (wed James McGrath), then in America had George (wed Amelia Irmsher 1st, 2nd Phoebe Miller), Frederick (wed ?), Caroline (wed Mr. Miller), Amanda (wed Mr. Hett), John (?), Sarah (never wed), and Charles (?). Any matches? Would love to share info. Stef Olson