Were any of your Browns named John and married Madge Springman in1934 .They had 13 children. From Leo Springman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [ILJersey] J.N. ENGLISH-BROWN connection? > Where did these Brown's live? > > I am a Brown whose family lived in Fern Glenn at Chautauqua. > We moved from Greene county near Patterson to the area. > > Don Brown > > At 05:41 PM 6/7/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Listers, > >Is anyone working on or have info on the parents and/or siblings of J. N. > >English, Sr.? > >Also, how is Mary BROWN John's niece? > > > >June 10, 1880, Jerseyville, Jersey Co., IL > >ED 97, fam # 345 > >ENGLISH, Nelse, 70, member of legislature {John Nelson English, Sr.} > >Catherine, 60, wife, > >R. Brock, 24, son {Robert Brock English} > >BROWN, Mary E., 40, niece > > > >I believe Mary BROWN could be the sister of Elizabeth BROWN. > >Elizabeth "Lizzie" BROWN married David BURLEYSON / BURLESON ca 1867. > >David Burleyson is my direct line. > > > >Thank you for any help, > >Sharon > > > > > >==== ILJERSEY Mailing List ==== > >If you need assistance, please contact: > >Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ILJERSEY Mailing List ==== > If you need assistance, please contact: > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Listers, Is anyone working on or have info on the parents and/or siblings of J. N. English, Sr.? Also, how is Mary BROWN John's niece? June 10, 1880, Jerseyville, Jersey Co., IL ED 97, fam # 345 ENGLISH, Nelse, 70, member of legislature {John Nelson English, Sr.} Catherine, 60, wife, R. Brock, 24, son {Robert Brock English} BROWN, Mary E., 40, niece I believe Mary BROWN could be the sister of Elizabeth BROWN. Elizabeth "Lizzie" BROWN married David BURLEYSON / BURLESON ca 1867. David Burleyson is my direct line. Thank you for any help, Sharon

Where did these Brown's live? I am a Brown whose family lived in Fern Glenn at Chautauqua. We moved from Greene county near Patterson to the area. Don Brown At 05:41 PM 6/7/02 -0400, you wrote: >Listers, >Is anyone working on or have info on the parents and/or siblings of J. N. >English, Sr.? >Also, how is Mary BROWN John's niece? > >June 10, 1880, Jerseyville, Jersey Co., IL >ED 97, fam # 345 >ENGLISH, Nelse, 70, member of legislature {John Nelson English, Sr.} >Catherine, 60, wife, >R. Brock, 24, son {Robert Brock English} >BROWN, Mary E., 40, niece > >I believe Mary BROWN could be the sister of Elizabeth BROWN. >Elizabeth "Lizzie" BROWN married David BURLEYSON / BURLESON ca 1867. >David Burleyson is my direct line. > >Thank you for any help, >Sharon > > >==== ILJERSEY Mailing List ==== >If you need assistance, please contact: >Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith and Scroggins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/834 Message Board Post: Am interesting in finding anyone who has done research on the Scroggins or Scoggins surnames. I have some information on Scroggins and am looking to exchange data. I have both Smith and Scroggins ancestry from Jersey County, Illinois. I have quite a lot of family history and information. Let me know if we have a match and you would like to exchange info -- On the Smith side my GGGGrandfather was Jessie Smith who married a Charlotte Stewart on 9/8/1825. I do not know much more about either of them, except that family tradition is that Jessie was from Tennessee. They had three children that we know of: Robert Monroe Smith, John S. Smith, and Margaret Smith. Robert Monroe Smith married Sarah Margaret Lurton on 10/2/1858. They had three sons: Charles Andrew Smith (born about 1865), William Rameses Smith (born 2/22/1868), and Robert Eugene Smith (born 12/22/1860). I descended from Robert Eugene Smith (my GGrandfather). Robert Eugene Smith married Mary Elizabeth Scroggins (born 10/15/1868 in Fieldon, Illinois). Mary was the daughter of John E. Scroggins (born 1844 in Illinois) and Rebecca Alexander (born about 1846 in Illinois). Rebecca's father was believed to have come from Tennessee. If these sound family to you, please let me know.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ig.2ADI/833 Message Board Post: Can anyone point me in the correct direction for finding information about the shoe factory that was located in Jerseyville? Thanks, Liz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ig.2ADI/472.471.468.658.2.2 Message Board Post: Hi Jackie, I think I can help a little. >From the obit of Pearl J. Cope, 3-29-73, I learned that he was the son of E.J. and Catherine (Maple) COPE. He was born in 1908, so it is likely that they were married after 1900 and thus don't show up on the IL marriage index online.Pearl's obit is available from the Jersey County Historical Society. I should point out that EJ is Era COPE, sone of John and Elizabeth (SWEENEY) COPE. He was sitll living with his parents in the 1900 census. Era and Catherine are in the 1910 and 1920 censuses. According to Pearl's obituary, Catherine was still alive in 1973, although his father and only brother had already died. Era is also listed in the IL Death Index online as dying in 1950. I also ran across the marriage registry entry for Charles MAPLE (parents: James MAPLE and Kate QUINN) and Leila BRAY (parents: Daniel BRAY and Elizabeth COPE!!!) who married 9/5/1898, license #2698. If you need more details or directions to sources, drop me a note. joanna The marriage registry books are available on microfilm from your local FHL

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COPE, GREEN, MONK, ISBELL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ig.2ADI/832 Message Board Post: Dear friends, My older sister recalls our grandfather telling stories about the time Jese James went through Grafton, but doesn't have any details. She also said that many years later someone sent her copies of articles (or maybe just one) about it. The paper was supposedly the Alton Telegraph. Can anyone confirm or refute this story? Any references you can direct me toward? many thanks joanna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bryant, Fessler, Laubscher Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/831 Message Board Post: Just returned from researching in the Jersey County Courthouse and what is called the Government Building, as I recall. They are just across the parking lot and a street from each other, easy to find. The Courthouse has indexed probate records that may be viewed on a microfilm-printer. The Government Building has birth, death and marriages, a copy may be purchased for $10. In an adjoining office the land records may be searched by the usual grantee or grantor index and the appropriate deed book may be looked at in person. Very friendly people and it just so happens two of the clerks were cousins of my husband and we live in California!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hicks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ig.2ADI/404.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Tonya, You may not remember, but you wrote to me and I answered before Thanksgiving of 2001. I never heard back from you. Your mother is my mother-in-law's cousin, Shirley. Thanks for the info. Keep in touch. Randi

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HICKS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ig.2ADI/404.1.1 Message Board Post: My great grandfather was Mike Hicks. He married Lillie Mae Blanchard and they had James Ishmael Hicks (1921), Minnie Lee Hicks Campbell (1923),Joseph Daniel Hicks(1927), then Buddy Charles Hicks (1936). My grandmother is Minnie. Mike came from East Tennessee. I believe his parents were Daniel Hicks and Nancy Campbell though I am not for sure yet.

hi, At one time it was common practice to have several towns of the same name in the state, and many towns and cities had former names with a few having had several, so if you have used a current map to find an old town name you may have created your very own brick walls or even worse you have connected with the wrong lines. "Bloomfield" is an excellent example of this common practice, just look at any current map and find it now in Johnson County close to Vienna, in 1958 it had a population of 80. Did you know there was another Bloomfield in Adams County? Close to Quincy, in 1958 it had a population of 25. There were others in Edgar, Fulton, Greene, Johnson and Scott Counties and all were spelled "Bloomfield." Plus precincts in Johnson and Scott Counties by the same name of "Bloomfield." Nine localities, all named "Bloomfield." Do you need more examples, maybe hundreds of examples? Sure hope you can easily see the point i am trying to make... many genealogies are out there now with improper connections because an inexperienced genealogist has picked the wrong county and matched up the wrong "SMITH" or "JONES" or "WHOEVER" because they thought they had the right county to chose from. Wrong connections are now made as the names that were available in that county were close so they figured a few misspellings or similar names would suffice. Or the town was the correct town but the county changed several times? Some still can't make the connection and are experienced enough to know that close doesn't always count, so they know they have hit a brickwall. My suggestion is that you jot down the towns your ancestors are known to have lived in and look them up on the statewide list of over 16,000 place names using your Ctrl/f keys to do the search. Copy down each county that each town appears in after the town name and you'll probably be amazed to find that instead of them moving all around the state they lived in a few neighboring counties. For details of when the town was active you could consult the web pages listed below for the 25 Northeast Counties as those are now online, the 44 South Counties will all details online by the end of this month, and the last 33 West Counties should have details online beginning this summer. When those new pages are up and running i'll send out an updated e-mail here and i'll post it on each Rootsweb county list as each county becomes available for research. BTW every fact is documented on every page. The following web pages are enormous and each will take over three minutes to download if your connection is a dial up modem and AOL is NOT busy and your computer is PROPERLY tuned. If you get a message that AOL is busy just rapidly tap on your reload button a few times and AOL wakes up and lets you in. It works for me as i use the IE browser instead of the AOL browser... here are the url's: <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/illinoygenealogy/myhomepage/writing.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of Each Illinois County</A> is a statewide list of over 16,000 towns, cities and townships known to have ever existed, grouped by county, covers all 102 counties. Each county now has "last updated date: brief description of the last update" at the beginning of each county listing. Each county has it's own listing of US Post Offices of 1859/60. For the 25 Northeast Counties and most of the 44 Southeast Counties, if a dash (-) after the name that indicates it is either obsolete or you won't find it on most current maps but it may appear on an older more detailed map, and as other counties are completed this will show on them as well. If i determined a listing was made either in error or it conflicts with other more reliable sources i've listed the source of information. This is the most complete list of its kind to be found anywhere. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/illinoygenealogy/myhomepage/tv.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of the Northeast 25 Counties</A> is a detailed list of everything known about each town, city and township, with over 5567 listings. Each county now has "last updated date: brief description of the last update" at the beginning of each county listing. Each county has it's own listing of US Post Offices of 1859/60 as well as a listing of the 1876 RR's and the towns the RR ran through. The following is listed on each town or city, if known, in this order: how it got it's name; former name; alias name; later name; present name; a dash (-) after the name indicates it is either obsolete or you won't find it on most current maps; the township the town or city is in; another county the town may overlap into; date of incorporation; elevation; railroad name of old and new; (Post Office history of: former name; when established and in which county; when discontinued; new name if changed; if active and the current zip); RFD in 1960 or 1990 mail to town; and 1990 population. For each township, if known: how it got its name; former name; later name; every town that has ever been in that particular township; currently the town that accepts mail for this township; and 1990 population. Each has all towns and townships known to be in existence from before 1818 up to 1990. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/dennisvcarter1/myhomepage/heritage.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of the Southeast 44 Counties</A> All counties are listed, each starting off with all towns, cities and townships known to have been in existence from before 1818 up to 1960. Later... current information, up to 1990, will follow in the summer or fall with over 5296 listings in total. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/dcarter956/myhomepage/heritage.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Place Names of the 33 Western Counties</A> now has the following recent county additions (# of place names): Adams (171), Brown (66), Bureau (209), Calhoun (114), Carroll (101), Cass (88), Fulton (198), Greene (123), Hancock (166), Henderson (100), Henry (137), Jersey (87), Jo Daviess (157), Knox (156), Lee (142), and Menard (81), each starting off with all towns, cities and townships known to have been in existence from before 1818 up to 1960. Later... current information, up to 1990, will follow in the fall or winter, with over 5238 listings. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/livingstoncounty/myhomepage/tv.html"> Illinois Family History Research: Timeline for Genealogy</A> is from the year 1400 to present, a chronological history of Illinois, United States, Germanic, British, France, and other European countries, each of these events have a bearing on family history. This list has been designed to help you also study your other lines that lived outside Illinois and each of the several thousand entries has been cited with its own source, over two dozen sources cited, and links to "the rest of the story" in many cases. This is the most complete list of its kind to be found anywhere. <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/livingstoncounty/myhomepage/business.html"> Livingston County, Illinois, Family History Research: Genealogy</A> is a master index of every family known to have lived in this county from 1831-1985. Several thousand surnames are listed alphabetically and each surname has each source cited, several hundred surnames have multiple sources cited, and 30 sources have so far been used. Many of these sources are online so you can easily confirm your suspicions of connections within a few minutes. Sources include records from biographies, cemetery, census, church, death, land and deed, marriages, military, etc., and a system is used so that by looking at the code following a surname you'll know the decade the record came from as well as the type of record and actual source. Many researchers from other states have found quickly found their missing connections from this index and i challenge other researchers to do this with a county of their choosing so others may quickly confirm their connections and be encouraged to research their roots. happy hunting dennis

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Ig.2ADI/783.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for response, however there appears to be no connection

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/830 Message Board Post: I have a Samuel McLaughlin named in an 1881 Jersey County IL divorce record and I'm hoping to gain a little historical insight. He supposedly had an affair with Hannah Ontis that upset the apple cart. Anyone know anything about him or his kin or what transpired after the court ajourned?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Binham, Smith, Ontis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/829 Message Board Post: I'm tracing out extended lines to a Ransom C. Bingham, married a Hannah Smith in Jersey County IL Aug. 11, 1869. She remarried Ontis in 1881. Interested in anything about these or descendants.

Most everyone on these mailing list know me. I am the newsletter editor and webmaster for Jersey County Historical Society. I am working on a project that will be enjoyed by both Counties, if I can get some support. I am preparing a report on "Huntin' and Fishin', in Jersey and Greene Counties. What I need are YOUR memories on these subjects. They can also include articles you have come across on these subjects pertaining to both counties. Please consider helping me and make sure you include your full name and email address along the article. Thanks Marty The Jersey County Historical Society http://www.618connect.com/~jchs/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/828 Message Board Post: I'm looking for any information pertaining to Bertha Rich. She married George Martin on May 6, 1922. I really appreciate it!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/821.2.1 Message Board Post: That is exactly who I'm talking about any information would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CRIMMINS DELANEY O'LEARY WELSH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/819.1.1 Message Board Post: HI Thanks for checking for me. Michael would have been 62 years old in 1920. A friend is also looking for Michael Crimmins during the same time period, he would have been 60 years old in 1920. Thanks so much. Eileen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/819.1 Message Board Post: I did not find a Michael Crimmins, Crimins, or Cremins in Jersey County on the 1920 census. There were two in Cook Co. and a Mike in Henry Co., but thats it. What would have been Michael's approximate age in 1920? David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Ig.2ADI/826.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Laura for all the info. Take Care.