I just have what family has passed down, so they may have forgot On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:44 PM, rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I don't think you all are going to get this right on, because of all the > info. for Rado that is different. The closest you will come to a birth date > will be with the census info. if it is accurate and we all know how > accurate that can be. The 1900 census does have her as Rhodo E. Crider age > 35 born April, 1865. > > > The Jefferson county sight for cemeteries has Rado buried at Oakwook > cemetery, and there is no photo of a stone for her. The site only lists a > death date of November 11, 1949, which does not correspond to the date > Betty sent of October 7, 1949, and neither of those dates correspond with > her obit. which I recorded from the actuall image from 2 editions of The > Mt. Vernon Register-News dated November 8, and November 9, 1949. The > November 8, 1949 edition says she died today, which was November 8. The > November 9, 1949 edition says she died yesterday which would have been > November 8, 1949. So I'm going with a death date of November 8, 1949. > > > Her obit. also has Rado as being 97 years, six months and 20 days old at > the time of her death, which would be a birth date of April 19, 1852 which > doesn't correspond with the birth date Betty gave or with census records. A > birth month and year of April, 1865 are consitant with the info. presented > so far but the acuall day is still in question, probably the 18th or 19th. > So she was probably born around April, 1865, if we can trust the census > info. I really doubt she was born in 1852 though. > > Apparently whoever gave the info. for her obit. wanted her to be a lot old > than what she really was. > > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty Sink via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>; iljeffer <iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 1:14 pm > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of > Daniel D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. It > > is not > > available on ancestry.com. > > > > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to > page > > 13. > > Page 12 is missing. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sandy > > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? > > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the > > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 > > > Name: Rado King > > > Event Type: Census > > > Event Year: 1870 > > > Event Place: Illinois, United States > > > Gender: Female > > > Age: 5 > > > Race: White > > > Race (Original): W > > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 > > > Birthplace: Illinois > > > Page Number: 12 > > > Household ID: 80 > > > Line Number: 1 > > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > > (NARA) > > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 > > > GS Film number: 000545732 > > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 > > > Image Number: 00450 > > > > > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace > > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio > > > Martha King F 34 Illinois > > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois > > > James King M 8 Illinois > > > Rado King F 5 Illinois > > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois > > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois > > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via > > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM > > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > > > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > > > > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > > > > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > > > > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > > > Could > > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the > obit. > > > > > > > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > > > > > Daniel King 26 > > > Martha J King 26 > > > Sarah C King 1 > > > John E King Two Weeks > > > > > > > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > > > Post Office: Hams Grove > > > > > > Daniel King 34 > > > Martha King 34 > > > Caroline King 11 > > > James King 8 > > > > > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > > > > > Daniel King 49 > > > Martha J. King 46 > > > Caroline King 21 > > > James M. King 17 > > > Elzana R. King 15 > > > Oliver King 14 > > > Fannie E. King 12 > > > Chas. E. King 10 > > > Mary King 9 > > > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado > > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. > > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six > > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at > > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton > and > > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood > > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may > call > > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident > of > > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. > > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > > > > Martha > > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who > preceded > > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. > > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and > Floyd > > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. > Louis, > > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of > > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of > > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! > > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of > > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral > > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 > > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The > > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York > > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. > > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She was > a > > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

He parents did not marry till 1857 FCI On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Betty Sink <10lizzy42@gmail.com> wrote: > I just have what family has passed down, so they may have forgot > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:44 PM, rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> I don't think you all are going to get this right on, because of all the >> info. for Rado that is different. The closest you will come to a birth date >> will be with the census info. if it is accurate and we all know how >> accurate that can be. The 1900 census does have her as Rhodo E. Crider age >> 35 born April, 1865. >> >> >> The Jefferson county sight for cemeteries has Rado buried at Oakwook >> cemetery, and there is no photo of a stone for her. The site only lists a >> death date of November 11, 1949, which does not correspond to the date >> Betty sent of October 7, 1949, and neither of those dates correspond with >> her obit. which I recorded from the actuall image from 2 editions of The >> Mt. Vernon Register-News dated November 8, and November 9, 1949. The >> November 8, 1949 edition says she died today, which was November 8. The >> November 9, 1949 edition says she died yesterday which would have been >> November 8, 1949. So I'm going with a death date of November 8, 1949. >> >> >> Her obit. also has Rado as being 97 years, six months and 20 days old at >> the time of her death, which would be a birth date of April 19, 1852 which >> doesn't correspond with the birth date Betty gave or with census records. A >> birth month and year of April, 1865 are consitant with the info. presented >> so far but the acuall day is still in question, probably the 18th or 19th. >> So she was probably born around April, 1865, if we can trust the census >> info. I really doubt she was born in 1852 though. >> >> Apparently whoever gave the info. for her obit. wanted her to be a lot >> old than what she really was. >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Betty Sink via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>; iljeffer < >> iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 1:14 pm >> Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 >> >> >> Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of >> Daniel D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER >> >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. It >> > is not >> > available on ancestry.com. >> > >> > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to >> page >> > 13. >> > Page 12 is missing. >> > >> > Sandy >> > >> > >> > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > Sandy >> > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? >> > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the >> > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. >> > > >> > > Larry >> > > >> > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 >> > > Name: Rado King >> > > Event Type: Census >> > > Event Year: 1870 >> > > Event Place: Illinois, United States >> > > Gender: Female >> > > Age: 5 >> > > Race: White >> > > Race (Original): W >> > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 >> > > Birthplace: Illinois >> > > Page Number: 12 >> > > Household ID: 80 >> > > Line Number: 1 >> > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration >> > (NARA) >> > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 >> > > GS Film number: 000545732 >> > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 >> > > Image Number: 00450 >> > > >> > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace >> > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio >> > > Martha King F 34 Illinois >> > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois >> > > James King M 8 Illinois >> > > Rado King F 5 Illinois >> > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois >> > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois >> > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >> > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM >> > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com >> > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 >> > > >> > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! >> > > >> > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. >> > > >> > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or >> FCI. >> > > >> > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? >> > > Could >> > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This >> > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the >> obit. >> > > >> > > >> > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: >> > > >> > > Daniel King 26 >> > > Martha J King 26 >> > > Sarah C King 1 >> > > John E King Two Weeks >> > > >> > > >> > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI >> > > Post Office: Hams Grove >> > > >> > > Daniel King 34 >> > > Martha King 34 >> > > Caroline King 11 >> > > James King 8 >> > > >> > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI >> > > >> > > Daniel King 49 >> > > Martha J. King 46 >> > > Caroline King 21 >> > > James M. King 17 >> > > Elzana R. King 15 >> > > Oliver King 14 >> > > Fannie E. King 12 >> > > Chas. E. King 10 >> > > Mary King 9 >> > > Daniel J. King 5 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado >> > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. >> > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six >> > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at >> > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton >> and >> > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood >> > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may >> call >> > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a >> resident of >> > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. >> > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and >> > > > Martha >> > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who >> preceded >> > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. >> > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and >> Floyd >> > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. >> Louis, >> > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of >> > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of >> > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! >> > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of >> > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral >> > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 >> > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. >> The >> > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York >> > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. >> > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She >> was a >> > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. >> > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> > > > ------------------------------- >> > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> the message >> >> >> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >