Rado King is mis ordered on ancestry. She is here! http://interactive.ancestry.com/7163/4263009_00450/17275909?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1870usfedcen%26h%3d17275909%26ti%3d0%26indiv%3dtry%26gss%3dpt%26ssrc%3dpt_t47325248_p24206385578_kpidz0q3d24206385578z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&ssrc=pt_t47325248_p24206385578_kpidz0q3d24206385578z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid&backlabel=ReturnRecord In the 1920 census she is listed with daughter Maude Davis, But the year of birth of Maude seems to be earlier than the 1886 marriage date, 1884 or 1885 Is Maude her actual daughter? Lonnie fink Lonfink@comcast.net > On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:24 AM, Lonnie Fink <lonfink@comcast.net> wrote: > > Here are the marriage pages for William Crider! > > http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/PG61L.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/PG61R.jpg > > http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/149R.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/149L.jpg > > > Lonnie fink > Lonfink@comcast.net > >> On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:04 PM, iljeffer-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:20:22 GMT >> From: "Mary" <zandz@juno.com> >> Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 >> To: iljeffer@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <20140918.212022.860.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >> Divorce - Jefferson County, IL >> William Crider vs. Cora Crider 1886 W 572 >> >> Jefferson County, IL Marriages 1878-1899 >> William Crider, age 35 next birthday, second marriage >> f. F. E. Crider >> m. Sarah Towery >> married May 19 1886 JCI >> Rado King, age 21 next birthday >> f. Daniel King >> m. Martha J. Hudson

Here are the marriage pages for William Crider! http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/PG61L.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/PG61R.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/149R.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~lonfink/JCI/149L.jpg Lonnie fink Lonfink@comcast.net > On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:04 PM, iljeffer-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 02:20:22 GMT > From: "Mary" <zandz@juno.com> > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > To: iljeffer@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20140918.212022.860.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Divorce - Jefferson County, IL > William Crider vs. Cora Crider 1886 W 572 > > Jefferson County, IL Marriages 1878-1899 > William Crider, age 35 next birthday, second marriage > f. F. E. Crider > m. Sarah Towery > married May 19 1886 JCI > Rado King, age 21 next birthday > f. Daniel King > m. Martha J. Hudson

Divorce - Jefferson County, IL William Crider vs. Cora Crider 1886 W 572 Jefferson County, IL Marriages 1878-1899 William Crider, age 35 next birthday, second marriage f. F. E. Crider m. Sarah Towery married May 19 1886 JCI Rado King, age 21 next birthday f. Daniel King m. Martha J. Hudson Mary ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jan Pigge via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>, Jefferson County <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:59:05 -0500 Rada and Radie were popular names in that age. Search for Rada rather than rado, I would say that was an error in transcription. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > Could > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > might be > her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > Daniel King 26 > Martha J King 26 > Sarah C King 1 > John E King Two Weeks > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > Post Office: Hams Grove > > Daniel King 34 > Martha King 34 > Caroline King 11 > James King 8 > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > Daniel King 49 > Martha J. King 46 > Caroline King 21 > James M. King 17 > Elzana R. King 15 > Oliver King 14 > Fannie E. King 12 > Chas. E. King 10 > Mary King 9 > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 > > Mrs. Rado Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday > > Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at > the age > > of 97 years, six months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held > Friday at > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and > the > > Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. > The > > body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call at any time > after 10 > > a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of Mt. Vernon for 60 > years. > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > Martha > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded > her in > > death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. She is > survived > > by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd of East St. Louis; > > three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, Mrs. Flora Williams > of > > Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of Coscoton Ohio; three > brothers, > > Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of Benton and James King of Alton, > Ill! > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of Alton, > Ill.; > > and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 > > Funeral Friday For Rado Crider > > Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 S. 16th street will be held > > Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin > and > > the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York City will officiate and burial will > be in > > Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age > of 83 > > years. She was a member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Buffett&#39;s &#34;Real Threat&#34;… See the technology W. Buffett calls the &#34;Real Threat&#34; to his fortune. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/541b933ff69c133f2ad1st04duc

Thanks Bob. I agree, and find Rado was probably born 18 Apr 1865. I think this is her husband William Crider although 1900 census for Moores Prairie Twp, JCI has him born Sep 1851. Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947: Name: W. M. Crider Event Date: 26 Jan 1916 Event Place: Mt. Vernon, Jefferson, Illinois Gender: Male Age: 63 Birth Year (Estimated): 1853 Birth Date: 01 Nov 1852 Birthplace: Kentucky Father's Name: Finis Crider Father's Birthplace: Ky. Mother's Name: Sarah Lowrry Mother's Birthplace: Ky. Occupation: Laborer Burial Date: 27 Jan 1916 Cemetery: Oakwood Digital Folder Number: 4007992 , Image Number: 3011 , GS Film number: 1531028 , Reference ID: 15205 > On September 18, 2014 at 1:44 PM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I don't think you all are going to get this right on, because of all the info. > for Rado that is different. The closest you will come to a birth date will be > with the census info. if it is accurate and we all know how accurate that can > be. The 1900 census does have her as Rhodo E. Crider age 35 born April, 1865. > > 　 > The Jefferson county sight for cemeteries has Rado buried at Oakwook cemetery, > and there is no photo of a stone for her. The site only lists a death date of > November 11, 1949, which does not correspond to the date Betty sent of October > 7, 1949, and neither of those dates correspond with her obit. which I recorded > from the actuall image from 2 editions of The Mt. Vernon Register-News dated > November 8, and November 9, 1949. The November 8, 1949 edition says she died > today, which was November 8. The November 9, 1949 edition says she died > yesterday which would have been November 8, 1949. So I'm going with a death > date of November 8, 1949. > > 　 > Her obit. also has Rado as being 97 years, six months and 20 days old at the > time of her death, which would be a birth date of April 19, 1852 which doesn't > correspond with the birth date Betty gave or with census records. A birth > month and year of April, 1865 are consitant with the info. presented so far > but the acuall day is still in question, probably the 18th or 19th. So she was > probably born around April, 1865, if we can trust the census info. I really > doubt she was born in 1852 though. > > Apparently whoever gave the info. for her obit. wanted her to be a lot old > than what she really was. > 　 > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty Sink via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>; iljeffer <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 1:14 pm > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of > Daniel D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. It > > is not > > available on ancestry.com. > > > > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to page > > 13. > > Page 12 is missing. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sandy > > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? > > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the > > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 > > > Name: Rado King > > > Event Type: Census > > > Event Year: 1870 > > > Event Place: Illinois, United States > > > Gender: Female > > > Age: 5 > > > Race: White > > > Race (Original): W > > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 > > > Birthplace: Illinois > > > Page Number: 12 > > > Household ID: 80 > > > Line Number: 1 > > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > > (NARA) > > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 > > > GS Film number: 000545732 > > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 > > > Image Number: 00450 > > > > > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace > > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio > > > Martha King F 34 Illinois > > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois > > > James King M 8 Illinois > > > Rado King F 5 Illinois > > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois > > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois > > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via > > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM > > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > > > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > > > > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > > > > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > > > > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > > > Could > > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. > > > > > > > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > > > > > Daniel King 26 > > > Martha J King 26 > > > Sarah C King 1 > > > John E King Two Weeks > > > > > > > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > > > Post Office: Hams Grove > > > > > > Daniel King 34 > > > Martha King 34 > > > Caroline King 11 > > > James King 8 > > > > > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > > > > > Daniel King 49 > > > Martha J. King 46 > > > Caroline King 21 > > > James M. King 17 > > > Elzana R. King 15 > > > Oliver King 14 > > > Fannie E. King 12 > > > Chas. E. King 10 > > > Mary King 9 > > > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado > > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. > > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six > > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at > > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and > > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood > > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call > > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of > > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. > > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > > > > Martha > > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded > > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. > > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd > > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, > > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of > > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of > > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! > > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of > > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral > > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 > > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The > > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York > > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. > > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She was a > > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mary. Sandy Sent from Sandy's iPad > On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Mary via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Divorce - Jefferson County, IL > William Crider vs. Cora Crider 1886 W 572 > > Jefferson County, IL Marriages 1878-1899 > William Crider, age 35 next birthday, second marriage > f. F. E. Crider > m. Sarah Towery > married May 19 1886 JCI > Rado King, age 21 next birthday > f. Daniel King > m. Martha J. Hudson > > Mary > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Jan Pigge via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>, Jefferson County <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 16:59:05 -0500 > > Rada and Radie were popular names in that age. Search for Rada rather than > rado, I would say that was an error in transcription. > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! >> >> There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. >> >> There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. >> >> Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? >> Could >> this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This >> might be >> her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. >> >> >> 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: >> >> Daniel King 26 >> Martha J King 26 >> Sarah C King 1 >> John E King Two Weeks >> >> >> 1870 census T4R4E JCI >> Post Office: Hams Grove >> >> Daniel King 34 >> Martha King 34 >> Caroline King 11 >> James King 8 >> >> 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI >> >> Daniel King 49 >> Martha J. King 46 >> Caroline King 21 >> James M. King 17 >> Elzana R. King 15 >> Oliver King 14 >> Fannie E. King 12 >> Chas. E. King 10 >> Mary King 9 >> Daniel J. King 5 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 >>> Mrs. Rado Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday >>> Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at >> the age >>> of 97 years, six months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held >> Friday at >>> 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and >> the >>> Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. >> The >>> body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call at any time >> after 10 >>> a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of Mt. Vernon for 60 >> years. >>> She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and >> Martha >>> (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded >> her in >>> death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. She is >> survived >>> by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd of East St. Louis; >>> three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, Mrs. Flora Williams >> of >>> Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of Coscoton Ohio; three >> brothers, >>> Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of Benton and James King of Alton, >> Ill! >>> .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of Alton, >> Ill.; >>> and 22 grandchildren. >>> >>> >>> The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 >>> Funeral Friday For Rado Crider >>> Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 S. 16th street will be held >>> Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin >> and >>> the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York City will officiate and burial will >> be in >>> Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age >> of 83 >>> years. She was a member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. >>> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >>> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________ > Buffett&#39;s &#34;Real Threat&#34;… > See the technology W. Buffett calls the &#34;Real Threat&#34; to his fortune. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/541b933ff69c133f2ad1st04duc > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Finis Ewing Crider is the son of Samuel and Mary "Polly" DeBoe CRIDER and was b. 1818 in Livingston Co Ky and died in Moores Prarie JCI 1881 Finis and Sarah had the following children Margaret Ann-James Bayless Morse Elizaabeth Jane-Wm Harrison McKinney George--Priscilla Neal Samuel- Margaret E. Neal William- Cora Fuqua--Rado KING Lewis Cass--Rosetta Border Sarah-d/y Mary Martha-Edward Barby Tucker

William CRIDER also married Cora FUQUA on 1-30-1881 JCI daughter of Charles and Nancy BIGHAM FUQUA and Wm is the son of Finis Ewing and Sarah TOWERY CRIDER and they came from Caldwell Co Ky to Illinois

John Alvin Williams, 79 of Mt.Vernon Ilinois, went home to meet the Lord on Thursday, September 18, 2014 at Good Samaritan Regional Health Center in Mount Vernon, Illinois. John in all his life never met a stranger, and always made friends where ever he went. He was a well loved man and was always surrounded by people who loved him. John was a good man and will be very missed by those who loved him. He worked 54 years as a salesman for Dairy Brand and Meadow Gold Milk. He was also self-employed with R&W Mobile Homes and R&B Oxygen. John was first married to Shirley Stein and had three children Johnny L. Williams & friend Lina Parker, Kathy (Dennis) Knight and Randall M. Williams. John later married Barbara (McKendree) Williams and had two children Teresa J (Steven) Kirkpatrick and Bryon S (Judith) Williams. Visitation will be from 5 to 8:00 P.M. Sunday, September 21, 2014 at Hughey Funeral Home in Mount Vernon, Illinois. Funeral Service will be held 1:00 P.M. Monday, September 22, 2014 also at Hughey Funeral Home in Mount Vernon, Illinois, with Rev. David Shores officiating. The burial will follow in Memorial Gardens Cemetery in Woodlawn, Illinois. For those who wish, memorials may be given to the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital and will be accepted at the funeral home or mailed to Hughey Funeral Home, P.O. Box 721, Mount Vernon, Illinois 62864. Arrangements have been entrusted to the care of Hughey Funeral Home where you may call (618) 242-3348 or visit www.hugheyfh.com for further information and to send condolences. In addition to his wife Barbara of Mount Vernon and his five children, John is survived by two sisters Peggy Barger and Betty Brooks, one aunt Wilma Pearl Hutchinson, 10 grandchildren, 10 great grandchildren, and 1 great-great grandchild, many cousins, nieces and nephews, and special friends Carolyn Young and Jim & Sandy Ellis. John was born on May 13th 1935 in Carmi, Illinois to Randall and Nettie (Darnell) Williams. John was preceded in death by his parents; three brothers Richard Porter, George (Sammy) Aldridge, and Randall Williams Jr., along with his son Randall M. Williams.

His marriage license has been transcribed and submitted to the JCI website by Bob Loman: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/marriage/mo_kissner_haynes.html Looks like they "fibbed" about their ages when they married on 1 Nov 1940. According to their gravestone at Thomason, his first wife Cecil Irene Haynes was born in 1925. I believe Cecil Irene Haynes is daughter of Benjamin Harrison Haynes and Ida Marie Catron as she is in 1940 census in Webber Twp, JCI with them on 18 Apr 1940. Sandy > On September 18, 2014 at 4:57 PM Jerry Williams via <ilwayne@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > George E. Kissner Obituary > > > George E. (G.E.) Kissner, 92, a well-known businessman of Wayne City, died > at 5:21 p.m. on Tuesday, September 16, 2014, at his home. He spent most of > his years in Wayne City operating various successful businesses and > partnerships. Among them were G.E. Kissner Grain Company and Feed Mill, > Kissner and Weaver Farm Equipment, and G.E. Kissner Cattle Company. He also > operated a sawmill, farmed for several years, owned a large ranch in South > Dakota, and fed a large number of cattle in his feedlots. He was a member of > Mount Zion Baptist Church. > > In addition to his wife, Joan, George is survived by his sons, Bill (and > wife Jeanne) of Wayne City, Bob (and wife Sandra) of Wayne City, Tom (and > wife Judy) of Grand Chain, his daughter Linda Buchanan (and husband Jim) of > Bluford, 11 grandchildren, 17 great-grandchildren, and 8 great-great > grandchildren. > > Funeral services for George E. Kissner will be 10 a.m. Saturday, Sept. 20 at > the Wayne City Baptist Church. Burial will be at Thomason Cemetery at Wayne > City. > > Visitation will begin at 5 p.m. Friday evening, Sept. 19 at the Wayne City > Baptist Church. The Richardson Funeral Home of Wayne City is in charge of > all the arrangements. > > Obituary from WFIW Radio Website. > > _____ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

William and Rado Crider lived at 114 N 9th Street in 1912. Mt Vernon, Illinois On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Jan Pigge <jan.pigge@gmail.com> wrote: > Rado King married William Crider in Jefferson County Illinois 5/19/1886 > Per the Cyberdrive Illinois Marriage Records > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jan Pigge <jan.pigge@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Rada and Radie were popular names in that age. Search for Rada rather >> than rado, I would say that was an error in transcription. >> >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! >>> >>> There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. >>> >>> There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. >>> >>> Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? >>> Could >>> this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This >>> might be >>> her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. >>> >>> >>> 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: >>> >>> Daniel King 26 >>> Martha J King 26 >>> Sarah C King 1 >>> John E King Two Weeks >>> >>> >>> 1870 census T4R4E JCI >>> Post Office: Hams Grove >>> >>> Daniel King 34 >>> Martha King 34 >>> Caroline King 11 >>> James King 8 >>> >>> 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI >>> >>> Daniel King 49 >>> Martha J. King 46 >>> Caroline King 21 >>> James M. King 17 >>> Elzana R. King 15 >>> Oliver King 14 >>> Fannie E. King 12 >>> Chas. E. King 10 >>> Mary King 9 >>> Daniel J. King 5 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 >>> > Mrs. Rado Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday >>> > Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at >>> the age >>> > of 97 years, six months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held >>> Friday at >>> > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and >>> the >>> > Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood >>> cemetery. The >>> > body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call at any time >>> after 10 >>> > a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of Mt. Vernon for 60 >>> years. >>> > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and >>> Martha >>> > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded >>> her in >>> > death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. She is >>> survived >>> > by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd of East St. >>> Louis; >>> > three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, Mrs. Flora >>> Williams of >>> > Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of Coscoton Ohio; three >>> brothers, >>> > Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of Benton and James King of Alton, >>> Ill! >>> > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of >>> Alton, Ill.; >>> > and 22 grandchildren. >>> > >>> > >>> > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 >>> > Funeral Friday For Rado Crider >>> > Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 S. 16th street will be >>> held >>> > Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The Rev. Harry Slattery of >>> Herrin and >>> > the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York City will officiate and burial will >>> be in >>> > Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age >>> of 83 >>> > years. She was a member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. >>> > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >>> > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >>> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >

Rado King married William Crider in Jefferson County Illinois 5/19/1886 Per the Cyberdrive Illinois Marriage Records On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jan Pigge <jan.pigge@gmail.com> wrote: > Rada and Radie were popular names in that age. Search for Rada rather > than rado, I would say that was an error in transcription. > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! >> >> There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. >> >> There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. >> >> Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? >> Could >> this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This >> might be >> her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. >> >> >> 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: >> >> Daniel King 26 >> Martha J King 26 >> Sarah C King 1 >> John E King Two Weeks >> >> >> 1870 census T4R4E JCI >> Post Office: Hams Grove >> >> Daniel King 34 >> Martha King 34 >> Caroline King 11 >> James King 8 >> >> 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI >> >> Daniel King 49 >> Martha J. King 46 >> Caroline King 21 >> James M. King 17 >> Elzana R. King 15 >> Oliver King 14 >> Fannie E. King 12 >> Chas. E. King 10 >> Mary King 9 >> Daniel J. King 5 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 >> > Mrs. Rado Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday >> > Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at >> the age >> > of 97 years, six months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held >> Friday at >> > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and >> the >> > Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood >> cemetery. The >> > body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call at any time >> after 10 >> > a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of Mt. Vernon for 60 >> years. >> > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and >> Martha >> > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded >> her in >> > death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. She is >> survived >> > by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd of East St. >> Louis; >> > three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, Mrs. Flora Williams >> of >> > Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of Coscoton Ohio; three >> brothers, >> > Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of Benton and James King of Alton, >> Ill! >> > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of >> Alton, Ill.; >> > and 22 grandchildren. >> > >> > >> > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 >> > Funeral Friday For Rado Crider >> > Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 S. 16th street will be >> held >> > Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin >> and >> > the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York City will officiate and burial will >> be in >> > Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age >> of 83 >> > years. She was a member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. >> > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Rada and Radie were popular names in that age. Search for Rada rather than rado, I would say that was an error in transcription. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > Could > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > might be > her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > Daniel King 26 > Martha J King 26 > Sarah C King 1 > John E King Two Weeks > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > Post Office: Hams Grove > > Daniel King 34 > Martha King 34 > Caroline King 11 > James King 8 > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > Daniel King 49 > Martha J. King 46 > Caroline King 21 > James M. King 17 > Elzana R. King 15 > Oliver King 14 > Fannie E. King 12 > Chas. E. King 10 > Mary King 9 > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 > > Mrs. Rado Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday > > Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at > the age > > of 97 years, six months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held > Friday at > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and > the > > Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. > The > > body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call at any time > after 10 > > a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of Mt. Vernon for 60 > years. > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > Martha > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded > her in > > death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. She is > survived > > by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd of East St. Louis; > > three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, Mrs. Flora Williams > of > > Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of Coscoton Ohio; three > brothers, > > Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of Benton and James King of Alton, > Ill! > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of Alton, > Ill.; > > and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 > > Funeral Friday For Rado Crider > > Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 S. 16th street will be held > > Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin > and > > the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York City will officiate and burial will > be in > > Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age > of 83 > > years. She was a member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't think you all are going to get this right on, because of all the info. for Rado that is different. The closest you will come to a birth date will be with the census info. if it is accurate and we all know how accurate that can be. The 1900 census does have her as Rhodo E. Crider age 35 born April, 1865. 　 The Jefferson county sight for cemeteries has Rado buried at Oakwook cemetery, and there is no photo of a stone for her. The site only lists a death date of November 11, 1949, which does not correspond to the date Betty sent of October 7, 1949, and neither of those dates correspond with her obit. which I recorded from the actuall image from 2 editions of The Mt. Vernon Register-News dated November 8, and November 9, 1949. The November 8, 1949 edition says she died today, which was November 8. The November 9, 1949 edition says she died yesterday which would have been November 8, 1949. So I'm going with a death date of November 8, 1949. 　 Her obit. also has Rado as being 97 years, six months and 20 days old at the time of her death, which would be a birth date of April 19, 1852 which doesn't correspond with the birth date Betty gave or with census records. A birth month and year of April, 1865 are consitant with the info. presented so far but the acuall day is still in question, probably the 18th or 19th. So she was probably born around April, 1865, if we can trust the census info. I really doubt she was born in 1852 though. Apparently whoever gave the info. for her obit. wanted her to be a lot old than what she really was. 　 Bob -----Original Message----- From: Betty Sink via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>; iljeffer <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 1:14 pm Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of Daniel D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. It > is not > available on ancestry.com. > > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to page > 13. > Page 12 is missing. > > Sandy > > > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Sandy > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. > > > > Larry > > > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 > > Name: Rado King > > Event Type: Census > > Event Year: 1870 > > Event Place: Illinois, United States > > Gender: Female > > Age: 5 > > Race: White > > Race (Original): W > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 > > Birthplace: Illinois > > Page Number: 12 > > Household ID: 80 > > Line Number: 1 > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > (NARA) > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 > > GS Film number: 000545732 > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 > > Image Number: 00450 > > > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio > > Martha King F 34 Illinois > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois > > James King M 8 Illinois > > Rado King F 5 Illinois > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > > Could > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. > > > > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > > > Daniel King 26 > > Martha J King 26 > > Sarah C King 1 > > John E King Two Weeks > > > > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > > Post Office: Hams Grove > > > > Daniel King 34 > > Martha King 34 > > Caroline King 11 > > James King 8 > > > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > > > Daniel King 49 > > Martha J. King 46 > > Caroline King 21 > > James M. King 17 > > Elzana R. King 15 > > Oliver King 14 > > Fannie E. King 12 > > Chas. E. King 10 > > Mary King 9 > > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > > > Martha > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She was a > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

He parents did not marry till 1857 FCI On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Betty Sink <10lizzy42@gmail.com> wrote: > I just have what family has passed down, so they may have forgot > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:44 PM, rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> I don't think you all are going to get this right on, because of all the >> info. for Rado that is different. The closest you will come to a birth date >> will be with the census info. if it is accurate and we all know how >> accurate that can be. The 1900 census does have her as Rhodo E. Crider age >> 35 born April, 1865. >> >> >> The Jefferson county sight for cemeteries has Rado buried at Oakwook >> cemetery, and there is no photo of a stone for her. The site only lists a >> death date of November 11, 1949, which does not correspond to the date >> Betty sent of October 7, 1949, and neither of those dates correspond with >> her obit. which I recorded from the actuall image from 2 editions of The >> Mt. Vernon Register-News dated November 8, and November 9, 1949. The >> November 8, 1949 edition says she died today, which was November 8. The >> November 9, 1949 edition says she died yesterday which would have been >> November 8, 1949. So I'm going with a death date of November 8, 1949. >> >> >> Her obit. also has Rado as being 97 years, six months and 20 days old at >> the time of her death, which would be a birth date of April 19, 1852 which >> doesn't correspond with the birth date Betty gave or with census records. A >> birth month and year of April, 1865 are consitant with the info. presented >> so far but the acuall day is still in question, probably the 18th or 19th. >> So she was probably born around April, 1865, if we can trust the census >> info. I really doubt she was born in 1852 though. >> >> Apparently whoever gave the info. for her obit. wanted her to be a lot >> old than what she really was. >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Betty Sink via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>; iljeffer < >> iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 1:14 pm >> Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 >> >> >> Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of >> Daniel D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER >> >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. It >> > is not >> > available on ancestry.com. >> > >> > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to >> page >> > 13. >> > Page 12 is missing. >> > >> > Sandy >> > >> > >> > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > Sandy >> > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? >> > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the >> > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. >> > > >> > > Larry >> > > >> > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 >> > > Name: Rado King >> > > Event Type: Census >> > > Event Year: 1870 >> > > Event Place: Illinois, United States >> > > Gender: Female >> > > Age: 5 >> > > Race: White >> > > Race (Original): W >> > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 >> > > Birthplace: Illinois >> > > Page Number: 12 >> > > Household ID: 80 >> > > Line Number: 1 >> > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration >> > (NARA) >> > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 >> > > GS Film number: 000545732 >> > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 >> > > Image Number: 00450 >> > > >> > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace >> > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio >> > > Martha King F 34 Illinois >> > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois >> > > James King M 8 Illinois >> > > Rado King F 5 Illinois >> > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois >> > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois >> > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >> > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM >> > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com >> > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 >> > > >> > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! >> > > >> > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. >> > > >> > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or >> FCI. >> > > >> > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? >> > > Could >> > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This >> > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the >> obit. >> > > >> > > >> > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: >> > > >> > > Daniel King 26 >> > > Martha J King 26 >> > > Sarah C King 1 >> > > John E King Two Weeks >> > > >> > > >> > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI >> > > Post Office: Hams Grove >> > > >> > > Daniel King 34 >> > > Martha King 34 >> > > Caroline King 11 >> > > James King 8 >> > > >> > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI >> > > >> > > Daniel King 49 >> > > Martha J. King 46 >> > > Caroline King 21 >> > > James M. King 17 >> > > Elzana R. King 15 >> > > Oliver King 14 >> > > Fannie E. King 12 >> > > Chas. E. King 10 >> > > Mary King 9 >> > > Daniel J. King 5 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado >> > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. >> > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six >> > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at >> > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton >> and >> > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood >> > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may >> call >> > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a >> resident of >> > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. >> > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and >> > > > Martha >> > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who >> preceded >> > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. >> > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and >> Floyd >> > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. >> Louis, >> > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of >> > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of >> > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! >> > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of >> > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral >> > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 >> > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. >> The >> > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York >> > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. >> > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She >> was a >> > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. >> > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> > > > ------------------------------- >> > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> the message >> >> >> Visit the Jefferson County web site at: >> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I just have what family has passed down, so they may have forgot On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:44 PM, rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I don't think you all are going to get this right on, because of all the > info. for Rado that is different. The closest you will come to a birth date > will be with the census info. if it is accurate and we all know how > accurate that can be. The 1900 census does have her as Rhodo E. Crider age > 35 born April, 1865. > > > The Jefferson county sight for cemeteries has Rado buried at Oakwook > cemetery, and there is no photo of a stone for her. The site only lists a > death date of November 11, 1949, which does not correspond to the date > Betty sent of October 7, 1949, and neither of those dates correspond with > her obit. which I recorded from the actuall image from 2 editions of The > Mt. Vernon Register-News dated November 8, and November 9, 1949. The > November 8, 1949 edition says she died today, which was November 8. The > November 9, 1949 edition says she died yesterday which would have been > November 8, 1949. So I'm going with a death date of November 8, 1949. > > > Her obit. also has Rado as being 97 years, six months and 20 days old at > the time of her death, which would be a birth date of April 19, 1852 which > doesn't correspond with the birth date Betty gave or with census records. A > birth month and year of April, 1865 are consitant with the info. presented > so far but the acuall day is still in question, probably the 18th or 19th. > So she was probably born around April, 1865, if we can trust the census > info. I really doubt she was born in 1852 though. > > Apparently whoever gave the info. for her obit. wanted her to be a lot old > than what she really was. > > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty Sink via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > To: Sandy Bauer <sandy@whalen-family.org>; iljeffer <iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 1:14 pm > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of > Daniel D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. It > > is not > > available on ancestry.com. > > > > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to > page > > 13. > > Page 12 is missing. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sandy > > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? > > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the > > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 > > > Name: Rado King > > > Event Type: Census > > > Event Year: 1870 > > > Event Place: Illinois, United States > > > Gender: Female > > > Age: 5 > > > Race: White > > > Race (Original): W > > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 > > > Birthplace: Illinois > > > Page Number: 12 > > > Household ID: 80 > > > Line Number: 1 > > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > > (NARA) > > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 > > > GS Film number: 000545732 > > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 > > > Image Number: 00450 > > > > > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace > > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio > > > Martha King F 34 Illinois > > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois > > > James King M 8 Illinois > > > Rado King F 5 Illinois > > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois > > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois > > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via > > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM > > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > > > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > > > > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > > > > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > > > > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > > > Could > > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the > obit. > > > > > > > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > > > > > Daniel King 26 > > > Martha J King 26 > > > Sarah C King 1 > > > John E King Two Weeks > > > > > > > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > > > Post Office: Hams Grove > > > > > > Daniel King 34 > > > Martha King 34 > > > Caroline King 11 > > > James King 8 > > > > > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > > > > > Daniel King 49 > > > Martha J. King 46 > > > Caroline King 21 > > > James M. King 17 > > > Elzana R. King 15 > > > Oliver King 14 > > > Fannie E. King 12 > > > Chas. E. King 10 > > > Mary King 9 > > > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado > > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. > > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six > > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at > > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton > and > > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood > > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may > call > > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident > of > > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. > > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > > > > Martha > > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who > preceded > > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. > > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and > Floyd > > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. > Louis, > > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of > > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of > > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! > > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of > > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral > > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 > > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The > > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York > > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. > > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She was > a > > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of Daniel D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. It > is not > available on ancestry.com. > > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to page > 13. > Page 12 is missing. > > Sandy > > > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Sandy > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. > > > > Larry > > > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 > > Name: Rado King > > Event Type: Census > > Event Year: 1870 > > Event Place: Illinois, United States > > Gender: Female > > Age: 5 > > Race: White > > Race (Original): W > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 > > Birthplace: Illinois > > Page Number: 12 > > Household ID: 80 > > Line Number: 1 > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > (NARA) > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 > > GS Film number: 000545732 > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 > > Image Number: 00450 > > > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio > > Martha King F 34 Illinois > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois > > James King M 8 Illinois > > Rado King F 5 Illinois > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > > Could > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. > > > > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > > > Daniel King 26 > > Martha J King 26 > > Sarah C King 1 > > John E King Two Weeks > > > > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > > Post Office: Hams Grove > > > > Daniel King 34 > > Martha King 34 > > Caroline King 11 > > James King 8 > > > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > > > Daniel King 49 > > Martha J. King 46 > > Caroline King 21 > > James M. King 17 > > Elzana R. King 15 > > Oliver King 14 > > Fannie E. King 12 > > Chas. E. King 10 > > Mary King 9 > > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > > > Martha > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She was a > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sandy look here. <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/obits/laird-elvajcobit.htm> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/obits/laird-elvajcobit.htm From: Sandy Bauer [mailto:sandy@whalen-family.org] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:48 AM To: ilfrankl@rootsweb.com; iljeffer@rootsweb.com; Larry Lance Subject: Re: [ILFRANKL] George E. (G.E.) Kissner Obit Anyone know more about his mother's Laird family? I don't seem to have her in my Laird records but surely she must be related to my Laird line. Sandy > On September 18, 2014 at 9:09 AM Larry Lance via <ilfrankl@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Mt. Vernon Register-News, Mt. Vernon, IL > > Sept. 18, 2014 > > > > George E. (G.E.) Kissner, 92, a well-known businessman of Wayne City, died > peacefully at 5:21 p.m. on Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2014, at his home surrounded > by his family. > > George was born Friday, Jan. 13, 1922, in Dix. He was the son of William and > Opal (Laird) Kissner. He married Cecil (Haynes) Kissner on Nov. 1, 1940, and > they had five children. After Cecil's passing on Nov. 11, 1961, he later > married Joan (Buchanan) Kissner, who survives him, on Jan. 22, 1968. > > George spent most of his years in Wayne City operating various successful > businesses and partnerships. Among them were G.E. Kissner Grain Company and > Feed Mill, Kissner and Weaver Farm Equipment and G.E. Kissner Cattle > Company. He also operated a sawmill, farmed for several years, owned a large > ranch in South Dakota and fed a large number of cattle in his feedlots. > > His passions were beef cattle, studying the commodity and stock markets and > watching televised cattle auctions. > > He loved spending time with his family and his beloved dog, Maggie. George > was a member of Mt. Zion Baptist Church. > > In addition to his wife, Joan, George is survived by his sons, Bill (and > wife Jeanne) of Wayne City, Bob (and wife Sandra) of Wayne City and Tom (and > wife Judy) of Grand Chain; his daughter, Linda Buchanan (and husband Jim) of > Bluford; 11 grandchildren; 17 great-grandchildren; and eight > great-great-grandchildren. > > George was preceded in death by his parents; his first wife, Cecil; a son, > Jerry Kissner; his brother, Roy Kissner; and granddaughter, Teresa Buchanan. > > Visitation will be held at 5 p.m. the Wayne City Baptist Church on Friday. > > Funeral service will be at 10 a.m. Saturday at the church. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandy I think someone has got her birth date wrong? She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. Larry 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 Name: Rado King Event Type: Census Event Year: 1870 Event Place: Illinois, United States Gender: Female Age: 5 Race: White Race (Original): W Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 Birthplace: Illinois Page Number: 12 Household ID: 80 Line Number: 1 Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number: M593 GS Film number: 000545732 Digital Folder Number: 004263009 Image Number: 00450 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Daniel King M 34 Ohio Martha King F 34 Illinois Caroline King F 11 Illinois James King M 8 Illinois Rado King F 5 Illinois Oliver King M 4 Illinois Faunice King F 3 Illinois Edgar King M 1 Illinois -----Original Message----- From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? Could this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the obit. 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: Daniel King 26 Martha J King 26 Sarah C King 1 John E King Two Weeks 1870 census T4R4E JCI Post Office: Hams Grove Daniel King 34 Martha King 34 Caroline King 11 James King 8 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI Daniel King 49 Martha J. King 46 Caroline King 21 James M. King 17 Elzana R. King 15 Oliver King 14 Fannie E. King 12 Chas. E. King 10 Mary King 9 Daniel J. King 5 > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton and > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may call > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident of Mt. Vernon for 60 years. > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > Martha > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who preceded > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and Floyd > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. Louis, > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She was a > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Visit the Jefferson County web site at: www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Betty. That's what I finally figured out. I reported the missing census page image on ancestry.com. Sandy > On September 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM Betty Sink <10lizzy42@gmail.com> wrote: > > Rado is Elzana Rado KING born 4-18-1865 and died 10-7-1949 daughter of Daniel > D. and Martha HUDSON KING. She married William CRIDER > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sandy Bauer via <iljeffer@rootsweb.com > <mailto:iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Larry, I just realized why I missed the 2nd page in the 1870 census. > > > It is not > > available on<http://ancestry.com> . > > > > When you look at page 11 and then page forward, ancestry takes you to > > page 13. > > Page 12 is missing. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > On September 18, 2014 at 9:52 AM Larry Lance <llance516@gmail.com > > > <mailto:llance516@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sandy > > > I think someone has got her birth date wrong? > > > She had tt be born abt 1864.You had only part of the > > > Household from 1870 Census. She and rest are on nexpt page/image. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > 1870 US Census for Jefferson County, Illinois, Township 4 Range 4 > > > Name: Rado King > > > Event Type: Census > > > Event Year: 1870 > > > Event Place: Illinois, United States > > > Gender: Female > > > Age: 5 > > > Race: White > > > Race (Original): W > > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1864-1865 > > > Birthplace: Illinois > > > Page Number: 12 > > > Household ID: 80 > > > Line Number: 1 > > > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration > > > (NARA) > > > Affiliate Publication Number: M593 > > > GS Film number: 000545732 > > > Digital Folder Number: 004263009 > > > Image Number: 00450 > > > > > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace > > > Daniel King M 34 Ohio > > > Martha King F 34 Illinois > > > Caroline King F 11 Illinois > > > James King M 8 Illinois > > > Rado King F 5 Illinois > > > Oliver King M 4 Illinois > > > Faunice King F 3 Illinois > > > Edgar King M 1 Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > <mailto:iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto: > > > iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:iljeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] > > > On Behalf Of Sandy Bauer via > > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:07 AM > > > To: rwlmn; iljeffer@rootsweb.com <mailto:iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: Re: [ILJEFFER] Rado King Crider 1852 1949 > > > > > > Ok, this mystery is driving me crazy. Help! > > > > > > There is no Daniel King in the 1850 or 1860 census in Hamilton Co, IL. > > > > > > There is no Rado King in 1860, 1870, or 1880 census in HCI, JCI or FCI. > > > > > > Anyone know more about this lady's family? Could Rado be a nickname? > > > Could > > > this be Sarah Caroline King as shown in the census records below? This > > > might be her family but her birthdate would not be correct per the > > > obit. > > > > > > > > > 1860 census T5SR4E FCI: > > > > > > Daniel King 26 > > > Martha J King 26 > > > Sarah C King 1 > > > John E King Two Weeks > > > > > > > > > 1870 census T4R4E JCI > > > Post Office: Hams Grove > > > > > > Daniel King 34 > > > Martha King 34 > > > Caroline King 11 > > > James King 8 > > > > > > 1880 census Eastern Twp, FCI > > > > > > Daniel King 49 > > > Martha J. King 46 > > > Caroline King 21 > > > James M. King 17 > > > Elzana R. King 15 > > > Oliver King 14 > > > Fannie E. King 12 > > > Chas. E. King 10 > > > Mary King 9 > > > Daniel J. King 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM rwlmn via < iljeffer@rootsweb.com > > > > <mailto:iljeffer@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Tuesday, November 8, 1949 Mrs. Rado > > > > Crider Dies at Age 97; Funeral Friday Mrs. Rado Crider, of 1204 S. > > > > 16th street, died at 4:00 a. m. today at the age of 97 years, six > > > > months and 20 days. Funeral services will be held Friday at > > > > 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel, with the Rev. Harry Slattery of Benton > > > > and > > > > the Rev. Joseph Hershon officiating, and burial will be in Oakwood > > > > cemetery. The body will remain at Myers Chapel, where friends may > > > > call > > > > at any time after 10 a. m. Thursday. Mrs. Crider had been a resident > > > > of > > > Mt. Vernon for 60 years. > > > > She was born April 18, 1852 in Dahlgren, the daughter of Daniel and > > > > Martha > > > > (Hutson) King. In 1886 she was married to William Crider, who > > > > preceded > > > > her in death in 1916. Mrs. Crider was a member of the Church of God. > > > > She is survived by three sons. Everett and Roy of Mt. Vernon and > > > > Floyd > > > > of East St. Louis; three daughters, Mrs. Maud Davis of East St. > > > > Louis, > > > > Mrs. Flora Williams of Wood River, Ill. and Mrs. Cora Patterson of > > > > Coscoton Ohio; three brothers, Daniel King of Mt. Vernon, Ed King of > > > Benton and James King of Alton, Ill! > > > > .; two sisters, Effie Easley of Mt. Vernon and Caroline Fetter of > > > > Alton, Ill.; and 22 grandchildren. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Mt. Vernon Register-News, Wednesday, November 9, 1949 Funeral > > > > Friday For Rado Crider Funeral services for Mrs. Rado Crider of 1204 > > > > S. 16th street will be held Friday at 1:30 p. m. at Myers Chapel. The > > > > Rev. Harry Slattery of Herrin and the Rev. Joseph Urshon of New York > > > > City will officiate and burial will be in Oakwood cemetery. Mrs. > > > > Crider died at. 4:00 a. m. yesterday at the age of 83 years. She was > > > > a > > > > member of the Bethel Tabernacle church. > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > > ><http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/> > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > ><http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/> > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Visit the Jefferson County web site at: > > <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iljeffer/> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:ILJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > >

Mt. Vernon Register-News, Mt. Vernon, IL Sept. 18, 2014 George E. (G.E.) Kissner, 92, a well-known businessman of Wayne City, died peacefully at 5:21 p.m. on Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2014, at his home surrounded by his family. George was born Friday, Jan. 13, 1922, in Dix. He was the son of William and Opal (Laird) Kissner. He married Cecil (Haynes) Kissner on Nov. 1, 1940, and they had five children. After Cecil's passing on Nov. 11, 1961, he later married Joan (Buchanan) Kissner, who survives him, on Jan. 22, 1968. George spent most of his years in Wayne City operating various successful businesses and partnerships. Among them were G.E. Kissner Grain Company and Feed Mill, Kissner and Weaver Farm Equipment and G.E. Kissner Cattle Company. He also operated a sawmill, farmed for several years, owned a large ranch in South Dakota and fed a large number of cattle in his feedlots. His passions were beef cattle, studying the commodity and stock markets and watching televised cattle auctions. He loved spending time with his family and his beloved dog, Maggie. George was a member of Mt. Zion Baptist Church. In addition to his wife, Joan, George is survived by his sons, Bill (and wife Jeanne) of Wayne City, Bob (and wife Sandra) of Wayne City and Tom (and wife Judy) of Grand Chain; his daughter, Linda Buchanan (and husband Jim) of Bluford; 11 grandchildren; 17 great-grandchildren; and eight great-great-grandchildren. George was preceded in death by his parents; his first wife, Cecil; a son, Jerry Kissner; his brother, Roy Kissner; and granddaughter, Teresa Buchanan. Visitation will be held at 5 p.m. the Wayne City Baptist Church on Friday. Funeral service will be at 10 a.m. Saturday at the church.