This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459 Message Board Post: walter smith was my father. born in ora twp july, 1889 died in chicago, 1945. he also went by 'jack' smith. i thot i had found his parents, but they were the wrong smiths. i have looked for two years and found nothing.if anyone sees this that knew him or of him i would like to hear from them.he has to have had parents somewhere. i would like to know who they were. thanks

I think there are several folks out there that are researching Manskers. I am looking for some information about an Elvis David Mansker (1835-1880). If you can contact me, I have some questions. Thanks. Mary Riseling Springfield, IL

Thanks Randy. For whatever reason (brain hiccup) that thought had not even crosed my mind. I will pursue the Missouri route to see if there is anything there but otherwise I will have to assume it went up in smoke. ----- Original Message ----- From: <crainrs@comcast.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] WHITSON/HENSON Marriage Information > Jackson County marriages don't start in the states database until 1848. It > is possible there was a record and it was stored in Brownsville. Might > have been lost when that courthouse burned before county seat was moved to > Murphysboro. > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Mary Riseling" <riseling@insightbb.com> > >> I am trying to find a marriage record for Sophia Whitson (daughter of >> Thomas >> Whitson) and Benjamin F. Henson. Everything I have says "abt 1828 in >> Jackson >> County" but I haven't been able to find a record anywhere. I have checked >> the >> state-wide database using several spelling variations to no avail. Was it >> common to go to Missouri to get married? If someone wanted to go to >> Missouri >> from Jackson County to get married, was there a county that was the most >> likely >> location? Thanks for any assistance. >> >> Mary Riseling >> Springfield, IL >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jackson County marriages don't start in the states database until 1848. It is possible there was a record and it was stored in Brownsville. Might have been lost when that courthouse burned before county seat was moved to Murphysboro. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mary Riseling" <riseling@insightbb.com> > I am trying to find a marriage record for Sophia Whitson (daughter of Thomas > Whitson) and Benjamin F. Henson. Everything I have says "abt 1828 in Jackson > County" but I haven't been able to find a record anywhere. I have checked the > state-wide database using several spelling variations to no avail. Was it > common to go to Missouri to get married? If someone wanted to go to Missouri > from Jackson County to get married, was there a county that was the most likely > location? Thanks for any assistance. > > Mary Riseling > Springfield, IL > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

It was a common practice for residents of Jackson County, IL to marry in Perry County, MO. The marriage records are kept in Perryville. http://www.tomshawcross.blogspot.com http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=shawcross&id=I53 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Riseling" <riseling@insightbb.com> To: "Jackson County" <ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 11:14 PM Subject: [ILJACKSO] WHITSON/HENSON Marriage Information >I am trying to find a marriage record for Sophia Whitson (daughter of >Thomas Whitson) and Benjamin F. Henson. Everything I have says "abt 1828 >in Jackson County" but I haven't been able to find a record anywhere. I >have checked the state-wide database using several spelling variations to >no avail. Was it common to go to Missouri to get married? If someone >wanted to go to Missouri from Jackson County to get married, was there a >county that was the most likely location? Thanks for any assistance. > > Mary Riseling > Springfield, IL > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am trying to find a marriage record for Sophia Whitson (daughter of Thomas Whitson) and Benjamin F. Henson. Everything I have says "abt 1828 in Jackson County" but I haven't been able to find a record anywhere. I have checked the state-wide database using several spelling variations to no avail. Was it common to go to Missouri to get married? If someone wanted to go to Missouri from Jackson County to get married, was there a county that was the most likely location? Thanks for any assistance. Mary Riseling Springfield, IL

Thank you; this is very helpful! Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Hi Carol, Somerset Twp is north of Murphysboro, you can see a map of the county with townships listed at http://www.rafert.org/Jackson/Jackson%20County.htm. Desoto is just east of Somerset Twp, and Oraville is on northwest corner. Joel http://www.mindspring.com/~jsruss/ At 12:31 AM 10/26/2006, you wrote: >Can someone please tell me where Somerset Twp is situated in Jackson Co >and some of the town names in that twp.? Thank you. Carol > >Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we >are here, we may as well dance! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone please tell me where Somerset Twp is situated in Jackson Co and some of the town names in that twp.? Thank you. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Jay was the son of Walter William FRIEDLINE and his second wife, Rose WALKER. http://www.tomshawcross.blogspot.com http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=shawcross&id=I53 ----- Original Message ----- From: <nmyres@yahoo.com> To: <ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: [ILJACKSO] Friedline Family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Friedline > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/458 > > Message Board Post: > > Interested in locating anyone with information on the family of Jay > Friedline, born in Carbondale in 1911, died in Rockport, Mass. in 2001. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/458.1 Message Board Post: write to rockport library for an obit (address from google) must have belonged to an artist group where someone knew about him .

The book, FARM FAMILIES OF JACKSON & WILLIAMSON COUNTIES, ILLINOIS IN 1920 lists these 3 Friedline's: John H. at R.2, DeSoto. Wife Malonia Ellith. Sec. 15, own 350 acres, resided there since 1860 Noah at R.2, DeSoto. Wife Bell Rude. Children at home: Ardel, Frank, Pauline. Children out of home: Isaac, Bessie. Sec. 14, own 130 acres, since 1861. Peter K. at R.2, DeSoto. Sec. 17, owns 840 acres, since 1867. Good luck, Juli Claussen

I found the following and believe these belong to your Jay Source "Death Records for Carbondale, Illinois 1877 - 1952" Walter William male born 10 Jun 1860 DeSoto; son Abraham Friedline born PA and (first name not provided)...Palmer Friedline; died May 13 1936, Carbondale; buried Oakland Cemetery Carbondale; spouse, Rosa Friedline -- Source - "Cemeteries of Jackson County, Illinois Volume II Carbondale Township"; transcribed as entered... FRIEDLINE, Walter W., June 10 1860 - May 13, 1936 FRIEDLINE, Jewel M., Nov. 26 1907 - Mar. 17, 1910 FRIEDLINE, Rosa Walker, June 1, 1871 - Nov. 17, 1958 Also found the followinge Frieldine's Ardell Friedline male born 27 Aug 1898, DeSoto Twp; son of Noah & Bell (Rude) Friedline; died 6 Nov 1952, Hurst, buried DeSoto Cemetery, DeSoto; spouse Floretta Friedline -- Source "Death Records for Carbondale, Illinois 1877 - 1952" Edward Friedline born April 26, 1869 died Dec 7, 1920 DeSoto son of Andrew and Anna (Kimmell) Friedline; buried DeSoto; spouse Anna Friedline -- "Jackson County Death Certificate " Peter K. Friedline born Aug 5, 1867 died Sep 3 1924 DeSoto; son of Andrew and Mary A (Kimmel) Friedline; buried Zion Cemetery; single..informant was Joseph Friedline of Seattle Washington - "Jackson County Death Certificate" nmyres@yahoo.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Friedline Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/458 Message Board Post: Interested in locating anyone with information on the family of Jay Friedline, born in Carbondale in 1911, died in Rockport, Mass. in 2001. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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Little Egypt Heritage Articles eduda tsunogisdi © Bill Oliver 22 October 2006 Vol 5 Issue: #34 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, “Traditions” I’ve been told that I have a strange sense of humor; I do like the bizarre, the curious, and the strange. I have saved little bits of these from years in a file folder. And, every so often I find that file and settle into reading. Being a “Marine Brat” I was exposed to foreign customs early in life. Service men of World War II also brought home from distant and faraway lands many remarkable accounts of strange peoples, strange beliefs, and strange ways of living. Strange at least to us Americans. Take eating as an example. We Americans use a napkin [the British call this a baby's diaper], when we eat. We unfold it and spread it over our lap, not tuck it under our chin. When the meal is over, we place the unfolded napkin back on the table. If we leave the table during the meal we lay the unfolded napkin in our chair while we are gone. Other cultures tuck the napkin under their chins, and often fold their napkins when placing them back on the table. Food is picked up with a fork. One can use either your left hand or your right one but most Americans use the right hand except when cutting food, when the fork is in the left and the knife in the right. If you hold the fork in the left hand you can keep your knife in the right to push the food onto the fork. If you use the right hand to eat then a small piece of bread may be used to push things with the left hand. It is still considered correct for a man to seat the females at the table before he sits down. If everyone is seated and a lady comes in to join the table, the men should stand up until she is seated. In most countries this is paramount to good manners; today we might consider this odd. Americans chew with their mouth closed. Our mothers kept telling us to not "smack", or make other strange noises while eating. We don't always follow that rule when alone but when eating with others we try to remember. In some other cultures it is custom to chew food with the mouth open. Eccentricity is not foreign in any culture that I’m aware of. In my neighboring town, the next one up river, lives a man we affectionately call “Polar Bear”. Wednesday last, Mr Herb Mericle turned over time to begin his second century of life. Beside “Polar Bear”, Mr Mericle is known as the “Father of the Polar Dip”, an annual event where folks “dip” themselves in the Maumee River on New Year’s Day at 1430 hours [2:30 p.m.]. He claims to have begun this tradition back when I was but a “tad of a lad” in the 1930s to celebrate his marriage which took place on that day and time of the year in 1936. If my facts are correct though he started his cold water dipping more like 1932, so maybe the timing of his dips brings the event into that particular time. His last plunge was the first of January 2002. Many folks warned him that such tempting of hypothermia and/or frostbite was not healthy. However, he has replied that he was the only one of such advisors yet living. This publicize event brought out spectators and “joiners”. His tradition was not always shared – there have been years when he “dipped” alone. I take a particular fancy to British Folk Customs. Oxford University has several colleges. In All Souls’ College, Oxford, “Hunting the Mallard” was a traditional custom, annual celebration, associated with the Feast, or Gaudy, on January 14th., but is now observed only once in every century. It consists of a ceremonial hunt for the tutelary [a guardian] bird of All Souls. In this case, a mallard of great size that, according to legend, was discovered in a drain when the foundations of the college were being laid in 1437. There is always a debate as to whether it was buried there, or very much alive and, being disturbed by the workmen, flew away and was lost. Hence, on Mallard Night, after the feasting had ended, a search used to be made for it by all the Fellows, led by an elected 'Lord Mallard' and six officers appointed by him. These officers carried white staves in their hands, and wore medals struck for the occasion, depicting on one side the Lord Mallard and his attendants, and on the other, the Mallard on a long pole. At midnight, the whole inebriated company would set off in procession, carrying lanterns and torches and raucously singing the Mallard Song, to hunt diligently for their mythical bird in every part of the building, in and out of rooms and closets, along passages, up and down stairs, and out over the leads. The search lasted for several hours, and did not usually end until daybreak. Now I love books and love to read. I was taught [and shown] that books were precious. In fact it was a major offense to destroy any book. My Mother transported our “library” half way around the world and back. It was a Depression Thing, I’m sure. The Honourable [correct British spelling] Maurice Baring was a member of the famous banking family, as well as poet, diplomat, essayist, war correspondent and a noted ‘leafomaniac’. Mr Baring did not collect books, he collected pages from books. If he came upon an interesting passage, he would simply tear out the page and paste it into a notebook. It should be said that at least his habit was confined to his own books and not volumes from the local library. However, once he had extracted what he wanted he simply gave the books away. Every time he moved his “house” he gave away his entire library and started all over. No doubt the recipients were somewhat bemused to find several of the pages missing from each of the volumes. Another ‘leafomaniac’? It is interesting to note that Charles Darwin, the English naturalist, also used to tear out the pages that he wanted from a book, and then just put the bulk of the book in his attic. He did not have a library, as much as a vast set of papers and pages pinned together. For anybody who loves books, the practice seems incomprehensible. Should we think of “sweeps”, it is not usually connected with chimney sweeping. In Rochester, Kent, England, there is a spring bank holiday held on the first weekend in May. A May Day Celebration. This festival owes its roots to age old traditions. Sweeping chimneys was a dirty but necessary trade nearly 300 years ago. The Sweeps Festival is said to be the largest gathering of Morris Dancers in the world. Notably, it is the only true English day where you can join in and listen to the music. The Morris Dancers hold hankies in their hands, or sticks, and have bell-pads tied at their knees, which make a loud and cheerful rhythm as they dance. The custom of men welcoming in the New Year by carrying pans of blazing tar on their heads is still kept alive in Allendale, Northumberland, England on New Year's Eve. The "carriers", dressed in fancy costume, balance on their head the end of a barrel filled with inflammable material. The procession is timed to reach an unlit bonfire shortly before midnight, then each man in turn tosses his flaming "headgear" on to the bonfire, setting it ablaze. On the stroke of twelve, all join hands and dance around the fire, singing Auld Lang Syne. Speaking of barrels of flammable material, there is Guy Fawkes night (5th November), which many of us have heard about. Held at Ottery St. Mary, an internationally renowned place for Tar Barrels, an old custom said to have originated in the 17th century takes place. The annual event involves people racing through the streets of the town, carrying flaming wooden barrels of burning tar on their backs with these words being sung: "Remember, remember, the fifth of November, Gunpowder, treason and plot. We see no reason why Gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot!" In November 1605, the infamous Gunpowder Plot took place in which some Catholics plotted to blow up the English Parliament and King James l, the day set for the king to open Parliament. The men were angry because the king had treated them badly and they didn't care for it. The story is remembered each November when 'Guys' are burned in a celebration known as "Bonfire Night". Remember, “The Night of the Dead” is approaching!!! Soon!!! e-la-Di-e-das-Di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- 1453 PostScript:

Tom; I have lost your e-mail address and I have also lost a piece of family info that you had provided to me. Please contact me off the list. Thank you. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

List. Would like to know the maiden name of Mary Ann ? who first married a Hayes and had two children, Margaret and James born in Tennessee and later married Patrick Henry McBride (1793-1849) and was mother of Patrick Henry McBride (1849-1872) who married Martha Wothen, and parents of my grandfather Ulysses Burton McBride (1872-1955). Clara Crocker Brown

Loretta, The Walter Smith of Anita M. Crites was: Walter Bartle Smith b. 7 Jan 1911 in Murphysboro. Father: Elmer G. Smith age 38. Mother: Effie Bartle age 35. Walter & Anita were married in Murphsboro, Ill. not Murphysboro, Tenn. as the transcription of the interview stated. Richard.

Thanks for letting me know that your Walter is not my Walter. Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lentz" <rlentzhsd@earthlink.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: [ILJACKSO] Walter Bartle Smith & Anita M. Crites > Loretta, > The Walter Smith of Anita M. Crites was: > > Walter Bartle Smith > b. 7 Jan 1911 in Murphysboro. > Father: Elmer G. Smith age 38. > Mother: Effie Bartle age 35. > > Walter & Anita were married in Murphsboro, Ill. not Murphysboro, Tenn. > as the transcription of the interview stated. > > Richard. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I wish there were more information on Walter Smith. Still wonder if he could be my husband's ancestor. Loretta Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lentz" <rlentzhsd@earthlink.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: [ILJACKSO] Walter & Anita Crite(S) Smith > Unbelievable! Look what I just found. Now we know the rest of the story. > Go to: > http://web.library.uiuc.edu/ahx/slc/oralhist/oralhist6.html > > Richard > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message