PS: The reason that I ask for a list of the Trobaughs buried there is the fact that David's wife was a Trobaugh and also the fact that I have also lost some of my Trobaugh relatives; this is the first I have heard of any Trobaughs being buried at this cemetery; maybe I was looking in the wrong cemeteries. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!
Would this, by chance, be near Somerset Twp.? Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!
This is looking more & more like it could be my David. Could I please have a list of the Trobaughs buried there? Thanks so much! Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!
I'm sorry, David and Grace are buried in Row 12 not 13. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karima" <karima@insightbb.com> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Cemetery Information > David and Grace EVANS are buried in Row 13 North to South, Tower Grove > Cemetery. > > There are WILLIAMS (C. F. and Lillie) buried in Row 13 North to South. > > Lots of TROUBAUGHs buried in Row 15, North to South. >
David and Grace EVANS are buried in Row 13 North to South, Tower Grove Cemetery. There are WILLIAMS (C. F. and Lillie) buried in Row 13 North to South. Lots of TROUBAUGHs buried in Row 15, North to South. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Cemetery Information > Are there perhaps any Williams, Trobaugh or other > Evans graves near to the gaves of this David & Grace? IF I could only > find Grace in a 1900 census it might give up some more clues. I know > that she was not in Carbondale with the maiden Trobaugh aunts in the > 1900 census. The known children I have for David & Susie Evans are > Leah, John & Edward, all of whom survived to adult-hood. Thanks again > for your help; we keep chipping away at this mystery. Carol
Tower Grove Cemetery, located in the Northwest part of Murphysboro, near Lake Murphysboro State Park. Try this link to see if you can get the map (it worked for me): http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37+46+23N+89+21+32W The Cemetery was opened in the 1830's. The area was originally a farming region, though coal mining was also important in this region by the 1880's. Murphysboro had silicon factories in the 1920's that took a toll on the male population. In 1925, the world's largest tornado disaster occurred, when a Category 5 tornado killed hundreds of people in the region. As the county seat, victims of the tornado were shipped to Murphysboro by flat bed railroad car and buried in the Tower Hill Cemetery; because many of these people were not recognizable, hundreds of people were buried in unmarked graves and are not actually recorded via the birth and death records on the gravestones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Cemetery Information > PS, Karima: Where is Tower Grove Cemetery located in Murphysboro? > Carol
PS, Karima: Where is Tower Grove Cemetery located in Murphysboro? Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!
Karima; thank you so much. This certainly "could" be the missing David; the DOB pretty well fits. Never heard of him & Susan having a child named Grace but it is certainly possible; perhaps Susan died while giving birth to her. Are there perhaps any Williams, Trobaugh or other Evans graves near to the gaves of this David & Grace? IF I could only find Grace in a 1900 census it might give up some more clues. I know that she was not in Carbondale with the maiden Trobaugh aunts in the 1900 census. The known children I have for David & Susie Evans are Leah, John & Edward, all of whom survived to adult-hood. Thanks again for your help; we keep chipping away at this mystery. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!
I am searching for others who may be researching: Benjamin Rush NEAL b. 04 Jun 1812 in Philadelphia, PA m. Catherine Rosetta DODGE (before 1840) d. 10 Dec 1864 in Illinois " He was named for Benjamin Rush, physician and signer of the Declaration of Independence, who was the family doctor at Philadelphia of Mr. Neal's grand-father. The famous doctor signed the birth certificate of Mr. Neal's father." [taken from Obituary of his son, B. R. NEAL, Jr., Dec. 1935- Dallas Morning News.] Benjamin Rush NEAL moved to MS and was listed on Tax Payers list for Copiah County, MS, for the years 1838; 1841; 1839. He then appears on the 1850 US Census, COPIAH Co., MS [page 283b HH#1130,1133] NEAL, Benjamin R.; 30; Merchant; $600, b. PA C. R. Neal, 30, F, born PA [Catherine Rosetta] C. E. Neal, 8, F, born MS, in school Mary B. Neal, 6, F, born MS, in school C. M. Neal, 4, F, born MS Infant, 2/12 M, born MS [note: this is Benjamin Rush Neal] His family also appears on the 1860 US Census, COPIAH Co., MS Enumerated October 27, 1860, p 183 (family 1282) NEAL, B. R.; 41; Merchant; real estate value $3000, personal estate value $9000, b. PA NEAL, Catherine, 41, F, born PA [Catherine Rosetta] Listed on page 186, dwelling 1289, Family 1300 - [not sure why the children were listed as living apart from Ben and Catherine]. NEAL, Kate, 18 female, b. MS NEAL, Mary, 16, female, b. MS NEAL, Elizabeth, 14, female, b. MS NEAL, Ben, 9, male, b. MS NEAL, William, 6, male, b. MS Sometime during or after the Civil War, Benjamin Rush NEAL moved his family to Jackson County, IL, where he died 10 Dec 1864. Any connections would be greatly appreciated. Karima
Carol, I could not find Susan, but I did find the following EVANS, listed "Cemeteries of Jackson Co, IL, Vol. IV, Murphysboro City Cemeteries." Could this be your David EVANS and perhaps another child? Karima Tower Grove Cemetery, Murphysboro, IL Row 12 S to N David L. EVANS, June 12, 1853 - March 25, 1897 buried next to: Grace EVANS, Feb 4, 1895 - June 24, 1903, aged 8y, 4m, 23d. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> To: <ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:22 AM Subject: [ILJACKSO] Cemetery Information >I am trying to locate a grave of one of my long-lost relatives and hope > that perhaps someone can look up this person for me in a cemetery book. > Her name was Susan (Susie) Evans, b. 1852/1860 died probably prior to > 1900. Probably buried in the Carbondale/Murphysboro area. Her maiden > name was Trobaugh. Her husband's name was David Evans (b. Wales abt. > 1853); his date/place of death is unknown. They had 3 known children: > Edward (Ed) who was living in Carbondale as of 1930; John who was > possibly living in Chicago in 1920; and Leah who was living in > Carbondale in 1900. Any help would really be appreciated. Thank you. > Carol > > Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > are here, we may as well dance! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am trying to locate a grave of one of my long-lost relatives and hope that perhaps someone can look up this person for me in a cemetery book. Her name was Susan (Susie) Evans, b. 1852/1860 died probably prior to 1900. Probably buried in the Carbondale/Murphysboro area. Her maiden name was Trobaugh. Her husband's name was David Evans (b. Wales abt. 1853); his date/place of death is unknown. They had 3 known children: Edward (Ed) who was living in Carbondale as of 1930; John who was possibly living in Chicago in 1920; and Leah who was living in Carbondale in 1900. Any help would really be appreciated. Thank you. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459.1.2.1 Message Board Post: dear juli, i know who you are and am thankful for the help you have given us all. it was wonderful to find all of junes kids.i am still looking for info on my father. i have pretty much found out all the info that can be found, but i'm still looking for walters parents. they are not william and cassandra. of that i'm sure.their walter married someone else and later died somewhere around st. louis.my mom married walter after the tornado , on oct. 1926, i was born in 1929 and i found walter, my mom, bob and myself in the 1930 census living with frank mc elyea, my grandfather. after that sometime later they split up andit is a mystery what ever happened to him. i asked bob once where did he go, he said that he went down in the big muddy bottoms and built a cabin on a bluff overlooking the river and
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/460 Message Board Post: juli thanks for your interest in my family. i deeply appreciate your help in finding junes kids. that made me so happy to get to talk to them. elaine is trying to help me find the rest of the family.i have just about found out all i can about the immediate family, what i can't seem to find are my dads parents. they are definitely not william and cassandra smith. altho the 2 walters were born about the same time, they married different wemon and their walter died at a different time and place. i know the info is out there someplace, but finding it has and still is a challenge. thanks again, if you happen to find out any more things, you have my e-mail address i think. barb martin
George Washington Smith and Margaret Ellen May. Walter's name was William Walter but he went by Walter. He married Cordelia Cripps. ----- Original Message ----- From: <toni_gen@juno.com> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] walter smith born in jackson co. il. > Hi Loretta, > May I ask the names of your Walter Smith's b, 1875 > parents ? > Thank you, > Tonia > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:40:18 -0600 "Loretta Smith" <lorsmith@swbell.net> > writes: >> I have a Walter Smith but mine was born in 1875. >> >> Loretta Smith >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <barbmartin9054@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:50 AM >> Subject: [ILJACKSO] walter smith born in jackson co. il. >> >> >> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing >> list. >> > >> > Surnames: smith >> > Classification: Query >> > >> > Message Board URL: >> > >> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459 >> > >> > Message Board Post: >> > >> > walter smith was my father. born in ora twp july, 1889 died in >> chicago, >> > 1945. he also went by 'jack' smith. i thot i had found his >> parents, but >> > they were the wrong smiths. i have looked for two years and found >> >> > nothing.if anyone sees this that knew him or of him i would like >> to hear >> > from them.he has to have had parents somewhere. i would like to >> know who >> > they were. thanks >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > List Guidelines: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Loretta, May I ask the names of your Walter Smith's b, 1875 parents ? Thank you, Tonia On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:40:18 -0600 "Loretta Smith" <lorsmith@swbell.net> writes: > I have a Walter Smith but mine was born in 1875. > > Loretta Smith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <barbmartin9054@sbcglobal.net> > To: <ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:50 AM > Subject: [ILJACKSO] walter smith born in jackson co. il. > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list. > > > > Surnames: smith > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > walter smith was my father. born in ora twp july, 1889 died in > chicago, > > 1945. he also went by 'jack' smith. i thot i had found his > parents, but > > they were the wrong smiths. i have looked for two years and found > > > nothing.if anyone sees this that knew him or of him i would like > to hear > > from them.he has to have had parents somewhere. i would like to > know who > > they were. thanks > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Guidelines: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
I don't want to confuse the matter but hope to eliminate one Walter Smith. He was Walter Lee Smith born in Ava, Ora township, Jackson County, IL on 29 Aug 1888 and died in East St. Louis, St. Clair County, IL on 13 April 1954. His father was William Henry Smith and his mother was Cassandra Fenn. His wife was Pearl Flora Wagner. He was my grandfather's brother. Bob Johnston mentor99@charter.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <jsruss@mindspring.com> To: <ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] walter smith born in jackson co. il. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: SMITH > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Per 1910 Census Walter R. Smith was the son of Samuel and Susan A. Smith. > They lived in Desoto and this is most likely the Walter Robert Smith found > in the WWI draft registration. > > Per 1910 Census Walter Smith the son of William H. and Kattie Smith were > living in Sato in Ora Twp. This is the same family as I listed in the > 1900 Census in the previous post. > > The two Walters were born with a couple of years of other and both around > 1890. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I have a Walter Smith but mine was born in 1875. Loretta Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: <barbmartin9054@sbcglobal.net> To: <ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: [ILJACKSO] walter smith born in jackson co. il. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: smith > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459 > > Message Board Post: > > walter smith was my father. born in ora twp july, 1889 died in chicago, > 1945. he also went by 'jack' smith. i thot i had found his parents, but > they were the wrong smiths. i have looked for two years and found > nothing.if anyone sees this that knew him or of him i would like to hear > from them.he has to have had parents somewhere. i would like to know who > they were. thanks > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith Clark Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459.1.2 Message Board Post: If it is any help, I am somewhat familiar with the Walter & Lela Smith family found in 1920 in Hallidayboro. Lela was a Clark. They also had a daughter June born about 1920-21. The mother, Lela, was killed in the big tornado. By that time they had moved up by the West Frankfort area, following the mining jobs. After her death the children were scattered. One of the daughters was still living in Herrin a few years ago, and had some family history information. Contact me directly by email if you would like more info.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459.1.1 Message Board Post: Per 1910 Census Walter R. Smith was the son of Samuel and Susan A. Smith. They lived in Desoto and this is most likely the Walter Robert Smith found in the WWI draft registration. Per 1910 Census Walter Smith the son of William H. and Kattie Smith were living in Sato in Ora Twp. This is the same family as I listed in the 1900 Census in the previous post. The two Walters were born with a couple of years of other and both around 1890.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/459.1 Message Board Post: I found a Walter Smith, born Aug 1888 and living in Ora Twp, Jackson County, IL in the 1900 Census. He was the son of William and Carra Smith. Two siblings are also listed, Robert and Mirah. Is this perhaps your Walter or is this the one you found and then discovered was the wrong one? There is a Walter Robert Smith listed in the WWI Draft registration files. He was born 18 Jul 1890 in Mt. Carbon, Jackson County, IL. In 1917 he was a coal miner working in Hallidayboro and had a wife and one child. Per 1920 Census his wife was Lela (b. c1899) and children Wilma (b. c1916) and Robert (b. c1917). I don't know if the Walters listed above are the same men or not. The census is notorious for having inaccurate birth years and ages. Is there any other information you can give us to go by? His wife's name, childrens names and dates, etc.? Good luck. Joel www.mindspring.com/~jsruss