Carol, I am sorry that you can't get someone to pay attention to you. Have you considered contacting the Jackson County Genealogy Society at: http://mysite.verizon.net/jchs/JCHSEgypt.htm There will be fees involved, but sometimes there is no other way to get information we need. You might also want to contact Juli Claussen at timjuli@earthlink.net Karima ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Oakland Cemetery, Carbondale, IL - will do Lookups > Karima; thanks for your reply. However, the probem is that I am being > "bounced" between the City Clerk and the sexton for Oakland. City Clerk > tells me to contact the sexton. When I contact the sexton, he refers me > back to the City Clerk. Darn frustrating esp since there is no way I > can get down to Jackson Co., at least in the forseeable future. Carol >

Karima; thanks for your reply. However, the probem is that I am being "bounced" between the City Clerk and the sexton for Oakland. City Clerk tells me to contact the sexton. When I contact the sexton, he refers me back to the City Clerk. Darn frustrating esp since there is no way I can get down to Jackson Co., at least in the forseeable future. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

Hello Carol, I think you would need to contact the City of Carbondale in order to find out this sort of information. At least, that is where I would start. You can contact the Carbondale City Clerk's Office at (618) 549-5302 or E-Mail: jvaught@ci.carbondale.il.us Hope this helps, Karima ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Oakland Cemetery, Carbondale, IL - will do Lookups > Karima: What I am seeking in regards to Oakland is information that > could possibly help some of us solve a few family mysteries. For > example, I have been told that the first record of a lot being sold at > Oakland is 1877. However, I have a relative (a child named Grant > Trobaug) who died 18 Feb. 1873 and is buried at Oakland; we would like > to find out who purchased his grave and when. For all we know, he was > buried elsewhere, exhumed and reburied at Oakland. We would like to > know exactly when Oakland Cemetery came into existence and also from > whom the land was obtained. It is possible that the land was obtained > from some of our ancestors. <snipped>

There is an 1855 and an 1865 census for Randolph County. I have sent the Newberry Library a request and they have looked in the index and sent me a page and line number. You are on your own from there. There are about 5 counties on each reel and they are in verry bad shape, some names and lines you can't read at all. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bill Adams" <billadams06@cox.net> > Randy, > > Do you know if there are State Census for Randolph County for 1855? > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: iljackso-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:iljackso-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of crainrs@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:07 PM > To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Neace family in Jackson Co. > > Janis, > > I do not know if is the military census but the 1855 and 1865 Illinois State > Census are available through the Illinois State Archives. There are several > counties together and the cost was $20.00 per roll. I have looked at both at > the library in Mt Vernon, Illinois. Some of the counties are very hard to > read if you can read them at all. They only list the families by numbers and > age groups not individual names. What each IRAD has is on line at the > Illinois Archives site. I was there last week and again was told if you know > what you want they will copy and mail it to you for a small copy fee. > > Randy > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Janis G." > > > Hello Juli! Thank you for the suggestions! I do have Jackson Neace's > > pension info and it does have all of his children listed. Sarah Jane is > > not listed, so that is another reason I don't believe she is his > > daughter. I tried to locate the 1865 military census, but did not find > > it online. I guess I can probably order it from somewhere, so will try > > that later. I have not yet ordered probate info for Elias Neace, > > Elisabeth Wheat or Vincent Wheat. I had forgotten that there would > > probably be a guardianship record. Do you know if those records would be > > in Jackson County or if they would be at IRAD? I guess I can look up > > that info online. Also, thank you for sending the copy of the census > > record for Christopher Nece/Neace. I had found that record a few years > > ago, when going page by page through the census looking for Jackson > > Neace. I guess it might be a good idea for me to spend some time looking > > at Christopher and Henry's families, as that may help me find out a > > little more about Jackson and his mother Elisabeth. > > > > Thanks again for the suggestions and the encouragement to get started on > > my research again. > > > > Best wishes! > > Janis > > > > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:02:16 -0600 "Juli Claussen" > > writes: > > > Hi Janis, > > > I have a couple of small suggestions for you that might help. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Janis, I do not know if is the military census but the 1855 and 1865 Illinois State Census are available through the Illinois State Archives. There are several counties together and the cost was $20.00 per roll. I have looked at both at the library in Mt Vernon, Illinois. Some of the counties are very hard to read if you can read them at all. They only list the families by numbers and age groups not individual names. What each IRAD has is on line at the Illinois Archives site. I was there last week and again was told if you know what you want they will copy and mail it to you for a small copy fee. Randy -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Janis G." <janisg@juno.com> > Hello Juli! Thank you for the suggestions! I do have Jackson Neace's > pension info and it does have all of his children listed. Sarah Jane is > not listed, so that is another reason I don't believe she is his > daughter. I tried to locate the 1865 military census, but did not find > it online. I guess I can probably order it from somewhere, so will try > that later. I have not yet ordered probate info for Elias Neace, > Elisabeth Wheat or Vincent Wheat. I had forgotten that there would > probably be a guardianship record. Do you know if those records would be > in Jackson County or if they would be at IRAD? I guess I can look up > that info online. Also, thank you for sending the copy of the census > record for Christopher Nece/Neace. I had found that record a few years > ago, when going page by page through the census looking for Jackson > Neace. I guess it might be a good idea for me to spend some time looking > at Christopher and Henry's families, as that may help me find out a > little more about Jackson and his mother Elisabeth. > > Thanks again for the suggestions and the encouragement to get started on > my research again. > > Best wishes! > Janis > > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:02:16 -0600 "Juli Claussen" > writes: > > Hi Janis, > > I have a couple of small suggestions for you that might help. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Dear Mary, Thank you for checking. The Codlia Hobbs is Caroline Cordelia E Tunis, Nicey's daughter-in-law. I'm not sure about the Mrs. Anna Duncan but that might be Nice Ann. Lord knows she was called everything under the sun! Again, I appreciate your checking the records. Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Riseling" <riseling@insightbb.com> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [ILJACKSO] Illinois Death Index > Gwen, > > I'm not sure about what book covers what area. There is nothing in the > 1844-1906 book to indicate where the people were from or where buried. > the > 1904-1915 book looks like it has folks from Murphysboro, Carbondale, > Makanda > and all over. The 1844-1915 book has a Codlia E. Hobbs listed who died in > September of 1879 at the age of 24. There is no indication where she was > from or where she is buried. The county clerk might have that > information. > I don't have any Hobbs listed in the 1904-1915 book. There is a Mrs. Anna > Duncan listed in the 1844-1906 book along with an Annie Duncan. There is > no > date of death given for Mrs. Anna Duncan but the date of death given for > Annie is September 1879 at the age of 2 (guess this isn't yours either). > There are also several other Duncans listed (Barbara, Dilla, Margaret, > Mary > Alice and William). Does any of this help. > > Mary Riseling > Springfield, IL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G Hobbs" <gghobbs@neto.com> > To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:18 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSO] Resources to share > > >> Mary, >> I noted with interest the Jackson CO Death Records 1844-1906. Is this for >> the whole county or was it pretty much confined to Carbondale and/or >> Murphysboro. I am looking for Hobbs', in particular, an N. or Nice Ann or >> Nicey Hobbs Duncan. She was first married to Thomas Hobbs, then John >> Taylor >> Lauderdale and then William Montgomery Duncan and I believe that she died >> and was buried on William Montgomery Duncan's farm in about 1881. Any >> help >> in finding her death date would be most appreciated. >> Thanks ~ >> Gwen Goff Hobbs >> Cooper TX >> Goff & Hobbs Connections >> (Individual websites for my direct lines) >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guinevere60/index.html >> >> Goffs and Hobbs & Everything in Between >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=guinevere60 >> (Comprehensive database showing how all the families interconnect) >> >> JACKSON CO IL SURNAMES - HOBBS, McLAUGHLIN, BUTLER, CLARK, O'DANIEL, >> COCHRAN >> (Silas P. Cochran), DUNCAN >> RANDOLPH CO IL SURNAMES - HOBBS, BUTLER >> WILLIAMSON & UNION CO IL SURNAMES - BRADBURY/BRADBERRY >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Riseling" <riseling@insightbb.com> >>>I have several books that I can do periodic lookups for people. I have >>>the >>> following: >>> >>> All Jackson County Census books from 1818 thru 1880 >>> 1900 Jackson County Census for City of Murphysboro, and Murphysboro, >>> Bradley, Degognia, Fountain Bluff, and Kinkaid Townships >>> Jackson County Death Book 1904-1915 >>> Index to Jackson County Death Records 1844-1906 >>> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a great link that has all the info on what years IL had a state enumeration and what counties lists survive. To search them yourself they can be ordered interlibrary loan, usually for free. Some have been indexed and the index books are available through interlibrary loan as well. The IL State Archives staff will search them too, and they have that on-line request form. It is very inexpensive. You need to be specific as to who and where, so they can find it. http://www.newberry.org/genealogy/illinoiscensus.html And here is the link to the on-line transcription of the Jackson County 1865 Enumeration: http://www.iltrails.org/jackson/1865_jc_census.htm Happy hunting! Jul Claussen

Randy, Do you know if there are State Census for Randolph County for 1855? Bill -----Original Message----- From: iljackso-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:iljackso-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of crainrs@comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:07 PM To: iljackso@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Neace family in Jackson Co. Janis, I do not know if is the military census but the 1855 and 1865 Illinois State Census are available through the Illinois State Archives. There are several counties together and the cost was $20.00 per roll. I have looked at both at the library in Mt Vernon, Illinois. Some of the counties are very hard to read if you can read them at all. They only list the families by numbers and age groups not individual names. What each IRAD has is on line at the Illinois Archives site. I was there last week and again was told if you know what you want they will copy and mail it to you for a small copy fee. Randy -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Janis G." <janisg@juno.com> > Hello Juli! Thank you for the suggestions! I do have Jackson Neace's > pension info and it does have all of his children listed. Sarah Jane is > not listed, so that is another reason I don't believe she is his > daughter. I tried to locate the 1865 military census, but did not find > it online. I guess I can probably order it from somewhere, so will try > that later. I have not yet ordered probate info for Elias Neace, > Elisabeth Wheat or Vincent Wheat. I had forgotten that there would > probably be a guardianship record. Do you know if those records would be > in Jackson County or if they would be at IRAD? I guess I can look up > that info online. Also, thank you for sending the copy of the census > record for Christopher Nece/Neace. I had found that record a few years > ago, when going page by page through the census looking for Jackson > Neace. I guess it might be a good idea for me to spend some time looking > at Christopher and Henry's families, as that may help me find out a > little more about Jackson and his mother Elisabeth. > > Thanks again for the suggestions and the encouragement to get started on > my research again. > > Best wishes! > Janis > > On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:02:16 -0600 "Juli Claussen" > writes: > > Hi Janis, > > I have a couple of small suggestions for you that might help. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those list members who are in the Carbondale area, you might want to take advantage of the following, from the latest Genealogy Society of Southern Illinois Newsletter ~Karima "FAMILY HISTORY DETECTIVE" "Juli Claussen will be the speaker at the first GSSI meeting in 2007. The meeting will begin at 2:30 P.M. in the Library at John A. Logan College on Sunday, 14 January 2007. "Ms. Claussen grew up in Bethalto, Illinois and has lived in the Carbondale area for over 25 years. She initially chose social services as her career path, and in 1994 received the Alumni of the Year award from Southern Illinois University's Social Work Department for her work as Executive Director of the Women's Center. Feeling the need in mid life for a less stressful work environment, she became the part time Children's Education Director at First Christian Church. Carbondale, IL and began building her favorite hobby, genealogy, into a home based business. Her Search & Genealogy Services is now a full time endeavor, providing family history research as well as people searches, often involving adoptions. As an adoptive parent and sister who supports openness in adoption, these searches are close to her heart. "Juli is a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists, the National Genealogical Society, the Jackson County Historical Society, the Illinois State Genealogical Society, and the local chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution, among others. "Specializing in adoption and missing heirs, Juli is well known for locating individuals in Illinois, one of the toughest states to research. On her Search & Genealogy Services website she lists ways she may assist birth parents, adoptees, and their family members with tips and guidance, especially for searching in Illinois! "For her talk at the GSSI meeting, Ms Claussen will talk about the tools and strategies she finds most useful when faced with a tough genealogical puzzle. She also plans to talk about a couple of her more interesting or surprising discoveries while working on a client's family history."

It greatly saddens me to see so many "old" photos being sold at flea-markets, antique stores and on auctions... its almost saying the life of these people didn't matter. Although I can understand why some are there, as no name is given as to whom they are (maybe we can ALL learn from this!)... but a few do have names. its those few with names that I have decided to try and "rescue", and try to find the families they belong to. As I gather these, I will post the names online, and you can have them for the price I paid plus postage.. deal? first on the list is: 1. Clifford CHAMBERS. 10 years old, taken by Clendenon & Nichols, Jacksonville, IL. regular photograph, abt 2.5"x3". young boy circa late 1800s or early 1900s. 2. Ellen HOBBS. tin-type photo in embellished card stock holder. no photographer listed. written in pencil on back is "Aunt Ellen Hobbs". photo size is abt 1.5" x 2", holder is maybe 2x3". 3. Evalyn HARMON. tin-type photo in card stock holder. no photographer listed. photo is abt 1.5" square, holder abt 2x3". if any of these people belong to you and you want the picture, please contact me privately. I only have one of each so first come, first claimed. Jean akakuek@aol.com _www.perrycountyillinois.net_ (http://www.perrycountyillinois.net/) _www.randolphcountyillinois.net_ (http://www.randolphcountyillinois.net/)

It greatly saddens me to see so many "old" photos being sold at flea-markets, antique stores and on auctions... its almost saying the life of these people didn't matter. Although I can understand why some are there, as no name is given as to whom they are (maybe we can ALL learn from this!)... but a few do have names. its those few with names that I have decided to try and "rescue", and try to find the families they belong to. As I gather these, I will post the names online, and you can have them for the price I paid plus postage.. deal? first on the list is: 1. Clifford CHAMBERS. 10 years old, taken by Clendenon & Nichols, Jacksonville, IL. regular photograph, abt 2.5"x3". young boy circa late 1800s or early 1900s. 2. Ellen HOBBS. tin-type photo in embellished card stock holder. no photographer listed. written in pencil on back is "Aunt Ellen Hobbs". photo size is abt 1.5" x 2", holder is maybe 2x3". 3. Evalyn HARMON. tin-type photo in card stock holder. no photographer listed. photo is abt 1.5" square, holder abt 2x3". if any of these people belong to you and you want the picture, please contact me privately. I only have one of each so first come, first claimed. Jean akakuek@aol.com _www.perrycountyillinois.net_ (http://www.perrycountyillinois.net/) _www.randolphcountyillinois.net_ (http://www.randolphcountyillinois.net/)

Hello Juli! Thank you for the suggestions! I do have Jackson Neace's pension info and it does have all of his children listed. Sarah Jane is not listed, so that is another reason I don't believe she is his daughter. I tried to locate the 1865 military census, but did not find it online. I guess I can probably order it from somewhere, so will try that later. I have not yet ordered probate info for Elias Neace, Elisabeth Wheat or Vincent Wheat. I had forgotten that there would probably be a guardianship record. Do you know if those records would be in Jackson County or if they would be at IRAD? I guess I can look up that info online. Also, thank you for sending the copy of the census record for Christopher Nece/Neace. I had found that record a few years ago, when going page by page through the census looking for Jackson Neace. I guess it might be a good idea for me to spend some time looking at Christopher and Henry's families, as that may help me find out a little more about Jackson and his mother Elisabeth. Thanks again for the suggestions and the encouragement to get started on my research again. Best wishes! Janis On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:02:16 -0600 "Juli Claussen" <timjuli@earthlink.net> writes: > Hi Janis, > I have a couple of small suggestions for you that might help.

No, I said he was living in 1920-1930. I believe the Arthur Evans in the SSDI who died June 1979 is the Arthur whose parents I wanted. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn To: iljackso@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. You said Arthur Evans is living? I found one in social security death index. Born Nov. 30, 1905. Social security issued in IL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > So far he's only shown up in the 1920 & 1930 census with his grandmother Elizabeth Jane Bagwill Crain. His grandfather was Thomas Crain. > > With Elva's first husband not dying until 1901-02, and Arthur born about 1905, then both Arthur's parents are apparently dead by 1920; that only leaves the 1910 census and so far I can find none of the 3. I'm thinking there is an odd spelling that I haven't come across yet. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Riseling > To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > I'm assuming your haven't been able to trace him and his parents through > marriage index or census records. Stupid question but thought I would ask > anyway. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > > Thanks you, I have learned that Arthur Evan's mother may have been Elva > > Crain Pugh as her first husband David A. Pugh died 6 Feb. 1901. This was > > something I didn't know when I first asked for Arthur Evan's parents. I > > still do not have any idea what his father's first name might have been. > > > > Peg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mary Riseling > > To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > > > > Not a problem. I'll keep an eye out if I find anything. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > > To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > > > >> Mary, > >> > >> Thanks, he's been a brick wall for sometime, I was hoping someone out > >> there would know who his parents were. > >> > >> Peg > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Mary Riseling > >> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:24 PM > >> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > >> > >> > >> Peggy, > >> > >> I don't have Arthur listed in my Evans descendants that married into the > >> Whitson family. > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > >> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:13 AM > >> Subject: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > >> > >> > >>> Carol, or any Evan's researcher, > >>> > >>> I am trying to find out who the parents of Arthur Evans ,born 30 Nov. > >>> 1905, were. He is living. He is the grandson of Thomas Crain (b. 29 Dec. > >>> 1855, Jackson Co.) and Elizabeth Jane Bagwill (b. 19 Dec. 1957, Jackson > >>> Co.) Elizabeth is sometimes listed as Eliza Jane, or Jane, or Elizabeth > >>> J. > >>> > >>> Thomas and Elizabeth were married 7 Mar, 1878 in Murphysboro, Jackson > >>> Co, > >>> IL. I have daughters Elizabeth, Elva, Sarah E., Noda M., and June M.; > >>> but > >>> as far as I know none of thes daughters married an Evans, unless I am > >>> missing a second marriage. > >>> > >>> In both 1920 and 1930 Arthur Evans is living with his grandmother > >>> Elizabeth Jane Crain in Du Quoin, Perry Co., IL. On 10 Nov. 1929 he > >>> married Allene Florence Richardson in Jackson Co.,IL. > >>> > >>> Any help would be appreciated! > >>> > >>> Researching: Crain, Ditzler, Henson, Germann, House, Arnold, Woll, > >>> Bagley, > >>> Luthy, Richards, Joyce, Thoms,Hann/Hand and assorted connecting names in > >>> these familys of Jackson County, IL. > >>> > >>> Peg Crain Luthy > >>> bilpeg@verizon.net > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Loretta Smith > >>> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:11 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share > >>> > >>> > >>> Carol, > >>> > >>> What information are you looking for on these individuals? > >>> > >>> Loretta Smith > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> > >>> To: "Juli Claussen" <timjuli@earthlink.net>; <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:12 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share > >>> > >>> > >>>> Juli; I have been searching for obits for the following people: Susan > >>>> (Susie) Trobaugh Evans; David Evans; Grace Evans; Charles Augustus > >>>> Griffin; Henry W. Trobaugh; Rebecca A. Trobaugh; Grant Trobaugh; James > >>>> Trobaugh. I would also be interested in knowing if any of the above > >>>> names appear in any of the resource books you have as well as any > >>>> mention of any of the following names: William Latter/Latty; William > >>>> Thompson; Caroline Thompson; Jonathan Franklin Wiseman. Thank you for > >>>> any help. Carol > >>>> > >>>> Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > >>>> are here, we may as well dance! > >>>> > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> List Guidelines: > >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You said Arthur Evans is living? I found one in social security death index. Born Nov. 30, 1905. Social security issued in IL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > So far he's only shown up in the 1920 & 1930 census with his grandmother Elizabeth Jane Bagwill Crain. His grandfather was Thomas Crain. > > With Elva's first husband not dying until 1901-02, and Arthur born about 1905, then both Arthur's parents are apparently dead by 1920; that only leaves the 1910 census and so far I can find none of the 3. I'm thinking there is an odd spelling that I haven't come across yet. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Riseling > To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > I'm assuming your haven't been able to trace him and his parents through > marriage index or census records. Stupid question but thought I would ask > anyway. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > > Thanks you, I have learned that Arthur Evan's mother may have been Elva > > Crain Pugh as her first husband David A. Pugh died 6 Feb. 1901. This was > > something I didn't know when I first asked for Arthur Evan's parents. I > > still do not have any idea what his father's first name might have been. > > > > Peg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mary Riseling > > To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > > > > Not a problem. I'll keep an eye out if I find anything. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > > To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > > > >> Mary, > >> > >> Thanks, he's been a brick wall for sometime, I was hoping someone out > >> there would know who his parents were. > >> > >> Peg > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Mary Riseling > >> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:24 PM > >> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > >> > >> > >> Peggy, > >> > >> I don't have Arthur listed in my Evans descendants that married into the > >> Whitson family. > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > >> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:13 AM > >> Subject: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > >> > >> > >>> Carol, or any Evan's researcher, > >>> > >>> I am trying to find out who the parents of Arthur Evans ,born 30 Nov. > >>> 1905, were. He is living. He is the grandson of Thomas Crain (b. 29 Dec. > >>> 1855, Jackson Co.) and Elizabeth Jane Bagwill (b. 19 Dec. 1957, Jackson > >>> Co.) Elizabeth is sometimes listed as Eliza Jane, or Jane, or Elizabeth > >>> J. > >>> > >>> Thomas and Elizabeth were married 7 Mar, 1878 in Murphysboro, Jackson > >>> Co, > >>> IL. I have daughters Elizabeth, Elva, Sarah E., Noda M., and June M.; > >>> but > >>> as far as I know none of thes daughters married an Evans, unless I am > >>> missing a second marriage. > >>> > >>> In both 1920 and 1930 Arthur Evans is living with his grandmother > >>> Elizabeth Jane Crain in Du Quoin, Perry Co., IL. On 10 Nov. 1929 he > >>> married Allene Florence Richardson in Jackson Co.,IL. > >>> > >>> Any help would be appreciated! > >>> > >>> Researching: Crain, Ditzler, Henson, Germann, House, Arnold, Woll, > >>> Bagley, > >>> Luthy, Richards, Joyce, Thoms,Hann/Hand and assorted connecting names in > >>> these familys of Jackson County, IL. > >>> > >>> Peg Crain Luthy > >>> bilpeg@verizon.net > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Loretta Smith > >>> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:11 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share > >>> > >>> > >>> Carol, > >>> > >>> What information are you looking for on these individuals? > >>> > >>> Loretta Smith > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> > >>> To: "Juli Claussen" <timjuli@earthlink.net>; <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:12 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share > >>> > >>> > >>>> Juli; I have been searching for obits for the following people: Susan > >>>> (Susie) Trobaugh Evans; David Evans; Grace Evans; Charles Augustus > >>>> Griffin; Henry W. Trobaugh; Rebecca A. Trobaugh; Grant Trobaugh; James > >>>> Trobaugh. I would also be interested in knowing if any of the above > >>>> names appear in any of the resource books you have as well as any > >>>> mention of any of the following names: William Latter/Latty; William > >>>> Thompson; Caroline Thompson; Jonathan Franklin Wiseman. Thank you for > >>>> any help. Carol > >>>> > >>>> Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we > >>>> are here, we may as well dance! > >>>> > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>> List Guidelines: > >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.jackson/738/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for a marriage date between Leonard and Josephine. Marriage may have occured between 1917-1918, either in Ava or Bradley or Kincaid.

Little Egypt Heritage Articles eduda tsunogisdi © Bill Oliver 7 January 2007 Vol 6 Issue: #01 ISBN: pending O’siyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, “Names and Expressions” This is the beginning of a brand new year. I have not the slightest idea what the year will bring. That said, I also don’t know for sure what direction this article will take. It will center around two words – ‘dead’ and ‘horse’ – and putting them together as in ‘dead horse’. The marvels of using computers is that those two words will, when ‘googled’, bring forth hundreds [and thousands even] of places to spend one’s time. >From a wide range of word meanings, to music, to history, to modern blogs. To begin in the realm of history, it was in April of the year 1873 when Captain John Mix [I’m sure that it is no relation to the more famous Tom Mix of 20th century fame] led a detachment of soldiers of the Second Cavalry to ‘scout’ the North and Middle Loup River Valleys in Nebraska. The troop was guided by Conrad “Little Buckshot” Wentworth. On their return from this exhibition the weather turned rather nasty and a blizzard developed, beginning on the 13th of April. The “Easter Blizzard” forced the soldiers to be housed by settlers and storekeepers. They left their animals in a sheltered area alongside a creek. During the storm twenty-five horses and four pack mules were suffocated by snow. That creek was given the name of [naturally] ‘Dead Horse Creek’. On my birthday, the 16th of July in 2006, a power line ignited a fire close to the town of Valentine in northern Nebraska. Firefighters from forty-seven [47] volunteer fire departments were involved with battling the fire. The fire consumed 3,100 acres, destroyed ten homes [in both a town and in rural areas] and damaged a like number. When fires reach the forest crown, as opposed to ‘ground’ fires, they release a tremendous amount of energy. This creates powerful updrafts which carry ‘firebands’ which then rain down on the earth causing ‘spot’ fires. Then eleven days following my birthday in 2006, dry lightning storms started some nine ‘wildfires’ in the Pine Ridge area of northwest Nebraska. The temperature on this day was 108 degrees and the relative humidity was less than ten. Five of the wildfires were under control before the end of the day, however, four continued to expand in area. The names of these fires were the ‘Thayer Fire’, and the ‘Rudloff Fire’ near Harrison, Nebraska. Near Chadron there was the Roberts Tract Fire and [here it comes, folks] the ‘Dead Horse Fire’. The fires were located in steep forested canyons. Due to so many fires nationally, fire suppression resources were short of what was needed. Hundreds of firefighters, including National Guardsmen turned out to combat these fires. In several days other areas broke out in flames. If my math is remembered correctly, nearly 70,000 acres of land were burned. Many of us from Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, etc were concerned for our friends and kin who lived in that area of our country. We watched the news and tried to maintain contact with folks in the area. It is said that a picture is worth a thousand words. Now I don’t wish to ‘beat a dead horse’; however, it sure fits in a totally different area. Thursday last a picture was passed around the ‘news wires’ and picked up by at least several newspapers, which in turn hit the Internet. It was a picture of a well dressed [elegant even] ‘mustachioed’ gentleman in ‘stovepipe’ hat sitting ‘rakishly’ on a ‘dead horse’, or at least, what appeared to be a dead horse. No one seems to have a history of the photograph except its location in Sheboygan, Wisconsin and the speculation that it was taken between 1876 and 1884. Apparently the picture was included in a newspaper’s current calendar. From there it prompted news articles and an Internet ‘explosion’. The begging question is, “Why was the picture taken?” Could it have been that the gentleman’s horse is ‘playing dead’? Or, could the horse have died and the gentleman is waiting for a ‘taxi’? Or, is he bound by law not to ‘leave’ a dead horse in a public place? Your guess is as good as anyone else’s. Red Skelton’s character says, “If I dood it, I dit a whippen.” “I dood it!” In that vein/vain this was advertised in my local paper with the brand name “egg beaters” – “99% real eggs”. 99 percent? My house wishes your house all good things in this new year. e-la-Di-e-das-Di ha-WI NV-WA-do-hi-ya NV-WA-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- 748 Note: Calamus Lake Recreation Area located 7 miles Northwest of Burwell, Nebraska on Hwy 96 has a BUCKSHOT BAY, an area named for Conrad Wentworth, nearby Fort Hartsuff's famed scout and hunter, better known as Little Buckshot. PostScript: "Myths are universal and timeless stories that reflect and shape our lives ..." Alexander McCall Smith, Dream Angus “The death of fear is in doing what you fear to do.” ...Sequichie Comingdeer Archived articles: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ilmassac

Thank you for the tip but it was the death records prior to 1916 in Jackson Co that caught my interest. Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: <crainrs@comcast.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Resources to share > Gwen, > > All Illinois death records are online from 1916 to 1950. Check the > Illinois Archives sir for their databases > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "G Hobbs" <gghobbs@neto.com> > >> Mary, >> I noted with interest the Jackson CO Death Records 1844-1906. Is this for >> the whole county or was it pretty much confined to Carbondale and/or >> Murphysboro. I am looking for Hobbs', in particular, an N. or Nice Ann or >> Nicey Hobbs Duncan. She was first married to Thomas Hobbs, then John >> Taylor >> Lauderdale and then William Montgomery Duncan and I believe that she died >> and was buried on William Montgomery Duncan's farm in about 1881. Any >> help >> in finding her death date would be most appreciated. >> Thanks ~ >> Gwen Goff Hobbs >> Cooper TX >> Goff & Hobbs Connections >> (Individual websites for my direct lines) >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guinevere60/index.html >> >> Goffs and Hobbs & Everything in Between >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=guinevere60 >> (Comprehensive database showing how all the families interconnect) >> >> JACKSON CO IL SURNAMES - HOBBS, McLAUGHLIN, BUTLER, CLARK, O'DANIEL, >> COCHRAN >> (Silas P. Cochran), DUNCAN >> RANDOLPH CO IL SURNAMES - HOBBS, BUTLER >> WILLIAMSON & UNION CO IL SURNAMES - BRADBURY/BRADBERRY >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Riseling" >> >I have several books that I can do periodic lookups for people. I have >> >the >> > following: >> > >> > All Jackson County Census books from 1818 thru 1880 >> > 1900 Jackson County Census for City of Murphysboro, and Murphysboro, >> > Bradley, Degognia, Fountain Bluff, and Kinkaid Townships >> > Jackson County Death Book 1904-1915 >> > Index to Jackson County Death Records 1844-1906 >> > >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So far he's only shown up in the 1920 & 1930 census with his grandmother Elizabeth Jane Bagwill Crain. His grandfather was Thomas Crain. With Elva's first husband not dying until 1901-02, and Arthur born about 1905, then both Arthur's parents are apparently dead by 1920; that only leaves the 1910 census and so far I can find none of the 3. I'm thinking there is an odd spelling that I haven't come across yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Riseling To: iljackso@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. I'm assuming your haven't been able to trace him and his parents through marriage index or census records. Stupid question but thought I would ask anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > Thanks you, I have learned that Arthur Evan's mother may have been Elva > Crain Pugh as her first husband David A. Pugh died 6 Feb. 1901. This was > something I didn't know when I first asked for Arthur Evan's parents. I > still do not have any idea what his father's first name might have been. > > Peg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Riseling > To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > Not a problem. I'll keep an eye out if I find anything. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > >> Mary, >> >> Thanks, he's been a brick wall for sometime, I was hoping someone out >> there would know who his parents were. >> >> Peg >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mary Riseling >> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. >> >> >> Peggy, >> >> I don't have Arthur listed in my Evans descendants that married into the >> Whitson family. >> >> Mary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> >> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:13 AM >> Subject: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. >> >> >>> Carol, or any Evan's researcher, >>> >>> I am trying to find out who the parents of Arthur Evans ,born 30 Nov. >>> 1905, were. He is living. He is the grandson of Thomas Crain (b. 29 Dec. >>> 1855, Jackson Co.) and Elizabeth Jane Bagwill (b. 19 Dec. 1957, Jackson >>> Co.) Elizabeth is sometimes listed as Eliza Jane, or Jane, or Elizabeth >>> J. >>> >>> Thomas and Elizabeth were married 7 Mar, 1878 in Murphysboro, Jackson >>> Co, >>> IL. I have daughters Elizabeth, Elva, Sarah E., Noda M., and June M.; >>> but >>> as far as I know none of thes daughters married an Evans, unless I am >>> missing a second marriage. >>> >>> In both 1920 and 1930 Arthur Evans is living with his grandmother >>> Elizabeth Jane Crain in Du Quoin, Perry Co., IL. On 10 Nov. 1929 he >>> married Allene Florence Richardson in Jackson Co.,IL. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated! >>> >>> Researching: Crain, Ditzler, Henson, Germann, House, Arnold, Woll, >>> Bagley, >>> Luthy, Richards, Joyce, Thoms,Hann/Hand and assorted connecting names in >>> these familys of Jackson County, IL. >>> >>> Peg Crain Luthy >>> bilpeg@verizon.net >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Loretta Smith >>> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share >>> >>> >>> Carol, >>> >>> What information are you looking for on these individuals? >>> >>> Loretta Smith >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> >>> To: "Juli Claussen" <timjuli@earthlink.net>; <iljackso@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share >>> >>> >>>> Juli; I have been searching for obits for the following people: Susan >>>> (Susie) Trobaugh Evans; David Evans; Grace Evans; Charles Augustus >>>> Griffin; Henry W. Trobaugh; Rebecca A. Trobaugh; Grant Trobaugh; James >>>> Trobaugh. I would also be interested in knowing if any of the above >>>> names appear in any of the resource books you have as well as any >>>> mention of any of the following names: William Latter/Latty; William >>>> Thompson; Caroline Thompson; Jonathan Franklin Wiseman. Thank you for >>>> any help. Carol >>>> >>>> Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we >>>> are here, we may as well dance! >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> List Guidelines: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you. I appreciate your taking the time to look. Kathleen

I'm assuming your haven't been able to trace him and his parents through marriage index or census records. Stupid question but thought I would ask anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > Thanks you, I have learned that Arthur Evan's mother may have been Elva > Crain Pugh as her first husband David A. Pugh died 6 Feb. 1901. This was > something I didn't know when I first asked for Arthur Evan's parents. I > still do not have any idea what his father's first name might have been. > > Peg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Riseling > To: iljackso@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > > Not a problem. I'll keep an eye out if I find anything. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> > To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. > > >> Mary, >> >> Thanks, he's been a brick wall for sometime, I was hoping someone out >> there would know who his parents were. >> >> Peg >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mary Riseling >> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. >> >> >> Peggy, >> >> I don't have Arthur listed in my Evans descendants that married into the >> Whitson family. >> >> Mary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peg Crain Luthy" <bilpeg@verizon.net> >> To: <iljackso@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:13 AM >> Subject: [ILJACKSO] Evan's family in Jackson Co. >> >> >>> Carol, or any Evan's researcher, >>> >>> I am trying to find out who the parents of Arthur Evans ,born 30 Nov. >>> 1905, were. He is living. He is the grandson of Thomas Crain (b. 29 Dec. >>> 1855, Jackson Co.) and Elizabeth Jane Bagwill (b. 19 Dec. 1957, Jackson >>> Co.) Elizabeth is sometimes listed as Eliza Jane, or Jane, or Elizabeth >>> J. >>> >>> Thomas and Elizabeth were married 7 Mar, 1878 in Murphysboro, Jackson >>> Co, >>> IL. I have daughters Elizabeth, Elva, Sarah E., Noda M., and June M.; >>> but >>> as far as I know none of thes daughters married an Evans, unless I am >>> missing a second marriage. >>> >>> In both 1920 and 1930 Arthur Evans is living with his grandmother >>> Elizabeth Jane Crain in Du Quoin, Perry Co., IL. On 10 Nov. 1929 he >>> married Allene Florence Richardson in Jackson Co.,IL. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated! >>> >>> Researching: Crain, Ditzler, Henson, Germann, House, Arnold, Woll, >>> Bagley, >>> Luthy, Richards, Joyce, Thoms,Hann/Hand and assorted connecting names in >>> these familys of Jackson County, IL. >>> >>> Peg Crain Luthy >>> bilpeg@verizon.net >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Loretta Smith >>> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share >>> >>> >>> Carol, >>> >>> What information are you looking for on these individuals? >>> >>> Loretta Smith >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Carol Garbo" <cagarbo@webtv.net> >>> To: "Juli Claussen" <timjuli@earthlink.net>; <iljackso@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] resources to share >>> >>> >>>> Juli; I have been searching for obits for the following people: Susan >>>> (Susie) Trobaugh Evans; David Evans; Grace Evans; Charles Augustus >>>> Griffin; Henry W. Trobaugh; Rebecca A. Trobaugh; Grant Trobaugh; James >>>> Trobaugh. I would also be interested in knowing if any of the above >>>> names appear in any of the resource books you have as well as any >>>> mention of any of the following names: William Latter/Latty; William >>>> Thompson; Caroline Thompson; Jonathan Franklin Wiseman. Thank you for >>>> any help. Carol >>>> >>>> Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we >>>> are here, we may as well dance! >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> List Guidelines: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message