This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: immisty038 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.jackson/163.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: forgot to mention, I found alot of familiar names in JACKSON CO IL. Try there. GINNY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: immisty038 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.jackson/163.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joseph had a younger brother, Martin Luther. He is my gr gr gr grandfather. He didn't go to IL, he went to OHio. Joseph and Pricilla came to IL in 1798 with the Rev. David BADGELY Party, along with his brothers Henry B. and Leonard. Leonard stayed in MONROE CO., while the others with on to ST.CLAIR. Some of Joe's kids married into SMITH, HIGGINS, WILDERMAN, PHILLIPS, COX, and other names I can't remember. His son conrad had a daughter Mary that married Nelson BARKER. Their descendants are connected to my best friend, June Barker Perkins. We also have PHILLIPS, SMITH, PECK, and other names in VA & OH. Another name is HAND, who came to IL with BADGELY from VA, and is from NJ, as was BADGELY. HIGGINS, SMITH, POTTER, and some others were from ME. Davis is another of my ancestors, as are CREAMER/CRAMER/KRAEMER. GINNY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

...just a note to let you all know I will be unavailable to do research until the end of March... ... if you want to "hold your place in line", you can still send requests, and I will answer and research them in the order received, when I resume the first part of April. Jean akakuek@aol.com _www.perrycountyillinois.net_ (http://www.perrycountyillinois.net/) _www.randolphcountyillinois.net_ (http://www.randolphcountyillinois.net/) <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Little Egypt Heritage Articles eduda tsunogisdi © Bill Oliver 18 February 2007 Vol 6 Issue: #07 ISBN: Pending O’siyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, “Family Ties” Family Ties! Not the kind one puts around their neck, but rather what binds family members together. A bond that usually grows with age, at least, once they are out of the competition stages. It is just my sister and I now. Our parents have passed on. There were six years between us. I entered my nuclear family as the ‘youngest’ sibling. Prior to my second birthday I became the ‘only’ child. Then a few years later I obtained the status of ‘oldest’ sibling. To my pleasure, my sister dropped in on us this week. Per usual we talked of times together and of our parents and other family members – aunts, uncles, cousins, even a grandparent or two. We become ‘kids’ again. Our Dad was a ‘wordsmith’ extra-ordinaire, so this makes a good topic when Sis and I get together. She claims to have won a [singular] game of scrabble with him, but let me tell you that I never did. He would frustrate me ‘till I wouldn’t play further. [Of course, Dad was also an excellent poker player and he could out bluff me any time.] We always climax with the time when all the children and grandchildren were gathered around and we listened to many stories from Dad. However, this time we got to ‘roasting’ him, my Sister and I and we finally got him – but GOOD! It was tough but we did it. This has now become the legend in our family. Well, according to Anne Pellowski in “World of Storytelling” [p15], Storytelling is “the art or craft of narration of stories and/or prose, as performed or led by one person before a live audience; the stories narrated may be spoken, chanted, or sung, with or without musical, picorial, and/or other accompaniment and may be learned from oral, printed, or mechanically recorded sources; one of its purpsoes may be that of entertainment.” Now, storytelling has been known for eons. In fact Georgiana Valoyce Sanchez wrote: “A long, long time ago, the Creator, and who knows how many Great Beings – gave the People language – at this time stories were born.” Written records of storytelling have been found in Sansckrit, Old German, Celtic, Latin, Chinese, Greek, Icelandic, as well as, Old Slavonic. [Probably some cultures have been missed.] One of the earliest surviving records is found in the Western Papyrus of the Egyptians in which the sons of Cheops, the pyramid builder, entertained their father with stories. The epic tale, Gilgamesh, which relates the story of a Sumerian King, is another of our oldest surviving epic tales. Even Shakespeare wrote in King Richard II, “For God’s sake, let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the death of kings.” Anne Pellowski in “The World of Storytelling” defines the ‘bard’ as, “a storyteller whose function is to create and/or perform poetic oral narrations that chronicle events or praise the illustrious forebears and present leaders of a tribal, cultural, or national group.” [p19] The bardic storyteller was a combination storyteller, poet and musician. The term bard had its origin with the Celts. The meaning of the term has changed over time in Scotland and Ireland. Storytellers have also been called minstrels and jongleurs. In the winter time, when the days are shorter and the nights longer, the people gather around the “fire” for entertainment to hear the stories that they will later tell the next generations. Stories represent various aspects of human life. Often with a touch of humor and vividness, these tales teach us how we should behave, how things came to be and that we should give thanks for all our blessings. Storytelling is an oral custom of a people who educate with insight and humor. Sis’s visit was a blessing for we visited a relative who was happy to reminisce and give us wonderful insights of our Mother and Father when they were in their teens and early married life together. When we were children we would often run into opposition to stories of certain relatives. Maybe an uncle left in a huff and the remaining folks would take offense and never discuss that person again. In today’s world more and more stories are being passed down from generation to generation. In fact I think we are returning to the myth keepers as actors, mimes, singers, and even dancers. There are many, many parts to being a myth keeper. These parts follow the definition of bardic tales mentioned earlier. If one reads old stories from many cultures they find a commonality to stories in general. For example: At the dawn of time there existed only water. In the broadest sense from water came land; from land and water came all forms of life, including mankind. This connects us all because all life comes from the same source. For my written stories, I may present brief introductory material(s) about the story being told, which might include background necessary to understand the story. Also, I try always to give the source of your story: another storyteller, a book, etc. While reading Pellowski [p106] I was fascinated by the idea that in the West Indian custom of storytelling, the narrator offers a phrase to introduce and/or close the story. For example, to introduce the story, the scene is set for telling by: the narrator saying : “Cric” and the audience would respond: “Crac” (meaning, ‘We want to hear your story’). Following this custom no one speaks except the narrator until the ending, which might go like this: “Snic, snac, snout; my story is told out.” Our Dad had a phrase that might be said at the beginning or at the end of his story. Dad would say something similar to: “I know not the truth of the matter, but ‘tis how it was told to me.” e-la-Di-e-das-Di ha-WI NV-WA-do-hi-ya NV-WA-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- 970 PostScript: "Myths are universal and timeless stories that reflect and shape our lives ..." Alexander McCall Smith, Dream Angus Archived articles: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ilmassac

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----- Original Message ----- From: ROY RODMAN<mailto:rodmanrf@msn.com> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com<mailto:iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Help (please!) jchs@globaleyes.net<mailto:jchs@globaleyes.net<mailto:jchs@globaleyes.net%3Cmailto:jchs@globaleyes.net>> is email address for Jackson County Historical Society, mail address 1616 Edith Street, Murphysboro, IL 62966 ----- Original Message ----- From: darwin2bell@aol.com<mailto:darwin2bell@aol.com<mailto:darwin2bell@aol.com%3Cmailto:darwin2bell@aol.com>> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com<mailto:iljackso@rootsweb.com<mailto:iljackso@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:iljackso@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Help (please!) mysite.verizon.net/jchs/JCHSEgypt.htm Is this what you were looking for? Darlene -----Original Message----- From: cagarbo@webtv.net<mailto:cagarbo@webtv.net<mailto:cagarbo@webtv.net%3Cmailto:cagarbo@webtv.net>> To: ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 5:24 PM Subject: [ILJACKSO] Help (please!) I have lost the e-mail address for the Jackson Co. Historical Society in Murphysboro. Can some kind soul please send it to me? Thank you. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html%3Chttp://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html%3Chttp://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html>> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

jchs@globaleyes.net<mailto:jchs@globaleyes.net> is email address for Jackson County Historical Society, mail address 1616 Edith Street, Murphysboro, IL 62966 ----- Original Message ----- From: darwin2bell@aol.com<mailto:darwin2bell@aol.com> To: iljackso@rootsweb.com<mailto:iljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSO] Help (please!) mysite.verizon.net/jchs/JCHSEgypt.htm Is this what you were looking for? Darlene -----Original Message----- From: cagarbo@webtv.net<mailto:cagarbo@webtv.net> To: ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 5:24 PM Subject: [ILJACKSO] Help (please!) I have lost the e-mail address for the Jackson Co. Historical Society in Murphysboro. Can some kind soul please send it to me? Thank you. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ILJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathryn, do you know if this is part of the Carr family that is related also to the Barrow's of this area? Thanks. Marilyn

Hello :) Does anyone have a David St. Clair CARR, living in or around Murphysboro ? He was a victim of the Tri-State Tornado. Thank you for your time, ---Kathryn

I think that is it; thank you. Carol Our life may not always be the party we would have chosen, but while we are here, we may as well dance!

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Little Egypt Heritage Articles eduda tsunogisdi © Bill Oliver 11 February 2007 Vol 6 Issue: #06 ISBN: Pending O’siyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, “Where I Come From ...” Where I come from “doesn’t look like much. And looks do not deceive.” This according to author P. J. O’Rourke as quoted in Good Roots, Writers Reflect on Growing Up in Ohio, edited by Lisa Watts. My favorite columnist, Roberta DeBoer, quoted him as saying, “I may be making Toledo [Ohio] sound dull, and it is.” P.J. O’Rourke is a [‘famed’] political humorist and just one of many Ohio born writers reflecting on their hometowns and youth in the book, Good Roots. Mr. O’Rourke lampoons, so such statements are par for the course. In fact, Mr. O’Rourke has appeared in that lampoon of lampoons, National Lampoon. Ms DeBoer sites a passage about a classmate of Mr. O’Rourke, who it just so happens graduated from the same high school my wife did, only fifteen years later. That though is another story. This classmate’s surname was Eggenschwiler, which like Klausterhaus, is German in origin. In the National Lampoon Yearbook, Mr. O’Rourke apparently used the name Eggenschwiler as the name of a ‘hall guard’ and quipped: “There are so many Germans that a boy I knew, Don Eggenschwiler, went all the way through grade school and junior high without being teased about his name.” The neighborhood of my youth was primarily German and Irish. I well remember the local meat markets and small grocery stores owned and operated by German folk. Also, the best bakery in town was in my neighborhood, as was a fine German restaurant. The local pub was owned by an Irishman though. Grandpa Oliver may have been Irish, but Grandma Oliver was solid German descent. They raised five children; three wonderful cooks and two hearty hardy [eating] men. I was too young to remember but I’ll bet a strudel that Grandpa, standing taller than Abe Lincoln, could put away a sizable amount of Grandma’s cookin’. And, him as thin as a rail. Well, supposedly Mr. O’Rourke goes on to explain that though we in Toledo live in a “beige and tideless lake” [Lake Erie] we have an exciting mix of cultures. To attest to this I’ll mention Jameel Joseph Farah [Jamie “Corporal Klinger” Farr] and Tony Packo’s Hungarian [Hot Dogs] Eatery]. Toledo also has The Basset Nut Company, The Toledo Mud Hens, and is the home of the World War II ‘Jeep’. Other names which have put Toledo on the lips of everyone are Samuel “Golden Rule” Jones, John Denver, and three term mayor, Carlton “Carty” Finkbeiner. North Wales England gave us a mayor known as “Golden Rule Jones”. Samuel Jones was an innovator in deep-oil well drilling. He was elected Mayor of Toledo, Ohio four times (1897-1904). He died in his eighth year in office. More than one hundred years later, experts have ranked him the fifth best mayor in United States history. He was, to say the least, an eccentric. His employment policies, which included an eight-hour day, paid vacations, and a strict adherence to the “Golden Rule,” earned him the nickname of “Golden Rule” Jones. He parlayed his popularity with workers into political success, winning election as mayor of Toledo for four straight terms (1897–1904) despite opposition from business leaders. He instigated paid vacations and eight-hour work days for municipal employees, also. Out in Nebraska another personality influenced the lives of Americans. J. Sterling Morton (1832-1903) was influential in the fields of politics, agriculture, commerce, and journalism. Besides being a Nebraska territorial legislator and acting Governor, he served as Secretary of Agriculture in the Cleveland Administration (1893-96). Julius Sterling Morton, noted politician was born in New York state and educated in Michigan before coming to Nebraska. It was in the fall of 1854 when he and his wife, Carolyn Joy, set out for Nebraska and settled in Nebraska City. Here he was the editor of the Nebraska News. He had a life-long interest in writing and publishing which began in his grandfather’s newspaper office in Michigan. Together with Robert Furnas, J Sterling Morton founded Arbor Day, yet, I suspect his name is better recognized as the owner of Morton’s Iodized Salt. In southern Illinois, the home territory of my Dad’s family, lived a brother to my 3rd Great Grandfather Frederick Crenshaw who also manufactured salt. Before the outbreak of the American Civil War, John Hart Crenshaw produced salt in Gallatin county. With the fortune that he made from salt, John Hart built a mansion on top of a hill which had a unique feature. One could drive a carriage through the middle and let folks out directly into the house without stepping on the ground. That feature is no longer there according to the pictures I have seen of it. Getting back to my “home town” and why it sometimes is literary fodder for lyricists and authors, I think of John Denver who wrote songs and lyrics about Toledo that made headlines in many newspapers. The lyrics went like this: “Saturday night in Toledo, Ohio, is like being nowhere at all All through the day how the hours rush by You sit in the park and you watch the grass die Ah, but after the sunset, the dusk and the twilight When shadows of night start to fall They roll back the sidewalks precisely at ten And people who live there are not seen again ...” The rest of the lyrics are at: [ http://www.lyricsdepot.com/john-denver/toledo.html ] Well, I’ve really only a one liner for how Mayor Carty Finkbiner gave my town fame. While Mayor he suggested that [paraphrased]: “We should move the deaf people out by the airport.” Good things do happen in Toledo. In addition to folks like Golden Rule Jones, Harry S. Truman on the 13th of February 1952 made some remarks at a dinner honoring Michael Vincent DiSalle. Mr. DiSalle served as Director of Price Stabilization from December 12, 1950, through February 15, 1952. It was a thankless job done well according to President Truman. Born on January 6, 1908, he was two years older than my Dad. They went to the same high school. Dad credited Mr. DiSalle with leadership in the group of young men Dad associated with. In 1946, Mr. DiSalle ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives but lost to incumbent Republican Homer A. Ramey. Mr. DiSalle served as mayor of Toledo, Ohio from 1948 - 1950. In 1958, Mr. DiSalle was elected to serve as the 60th Governor of Ohio. He served as Governor of Ohio from 1959 - 1963. He was an unsuccessful candidate for the Democratic nomination for the presidency in 1960. He also lost reelection as Governor in 1962. Governor DiSalle passed over on September 14, 1981. The three geographical areas which supply my family heritage do have ups and downs and I’m pleased to have each of them. e-la-Di-e-das-Di ha-WI NV-WA-do-hi-ya NV-WA-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- 1128 PostScript: "Myths are universal and timeless stories that reflect and shape our lives ..." Alexander McCall Smith, Dream Angus Archived articles: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ilmassac

Filmmaker looks at Southern Illinois history February 06, 2007 CARBONDALE (AP) - Southern Illinois has many tales to tell. Some have been lost to the ages, and some are not well known; and there are many in need of discovery. Rich Kuenneke has a passion to document these stories. ''When I hear a good story about the region's history,'' he said, ''I want to tell it. I can't hold it in, I want to share it and give credit where it's due.'' With 20 years of experience writing for radio and television, including three years as a reporter for KFVS-TV and 16 years as a television producer for Southern Illinois University Carbondale, Kuenneke now has his own video production company, Oakview Road Media. ''I'm a writer-producer,'' he said. ''I create television content for my clients. Right now I'm working on a major training project for a local company.'' In his spare time, he chronicles the history of Southern Illinois in documentaries. ''I'm a niche producer, as far as the creation of history documentaries go,'' he explained. ''I am not interested in creating something to appeal to a massive audience. If that were a concern, I probably wouldn't do this work.'' The first historical documentary Kuenneke produced was ''Arti-facts and Heavy Timber: The Re-co-struction of Fort Massac.'' It received a major media grant from the Illinois Hu-manities Council and a Public Service Award from the Illinois Archae-ological Survey in 2005. His most recent release is ''The Search for Cantonment Wilkinsonville.'' That DVD tells the story of a team of archaeologists in an excavation of an 1801 military post on the lower Ohio River valley. The post was set up in the aftermath of the ''XYZ'' affair with France in 1797. U.S. President George Washington once again became Commander of the U.S. Army. Alexander Hamilton was his second in command. Hamilton saw war as an opportunity to seize more western territory by taking the lower Mississippi River valley in the event of war with France. Gen. James Wilkinson began to set up an encampment on the lower Ohio River and continued to do so after the crisis with France had been averted. It is not known why this plan was still put into action. There is some evidence of a possible conspiracy between Wilkinson and Aaron Burr, who was in the middle of a presidential election that had been thrown into the House of Representatives. At its high point, Cantonment Wilkinsonville housed as many as 1,500 U.S. troops, which was half of the American military at the time. The post was abandoned in 1802. Mark Wagner, an archaeologist at the SIUC Center for Archaeological Investigations, invited Kuenneke to the site with no expectations. It was just an opportunity for Kuenneke to videotape and watch. ''Mark and I had known each other through other things we had worked on together,'' Kuenneke said. ''He said 'Let's just dig a pit, I'll show you how it's done, and I'll talk a little about it.' Well, while he did it, he found a bayonet socket, which was amazing. He doesn't get very excited very often, but you could tell he was pretty excited about that.'' That ended up being a major find, the cornerstone of the archaeological project and the documentary. ''This said, 'OK everything is still here; it's just a matter of finding it,''' Kuenneke said. ''What was really cool was that I knew that I had a peg; I knew I had a really substantial thing to write about for that first part of the video and I could write to that. That was the peak of the story.'' The DVD is available from Kuenneke's website, clickonhistory.com. http://www.register-news.com/features/local_story_037114558.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.jackson/163.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Virginia, I believe we have corresponded before. My Carr line is connected to yours. I am a descendent of Joseph and Priscilla Mary/Mary Priscilla (Shook) Carr. Their son Conrad married Margaret Phillips and I descend through David and Esther(Waring)Carr's son Peter. I can't remember, though, how exactly I am connected to your line. Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARR Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.jackson/163.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wondered where your Walter's family was from. I have CARRs in ST.CLAIR IL from 1800 on. There were SMITHS, EDWARDS, ROBERTSON, HIGGINS, BARKER, PHILLIPS, COX, SHOOK, SHORT, WILDERMAN, TATE and other families with them there. One of the grandson's of the original ST.CLAIR families ended up in FULTON CO. Carrs were originally from HARDY CO VA and came to IL in 1798 with the Rev.David BADGELY Party. Virginia Carr Martinez at vmartinez5946@aol.com

Little Egypt Heritage Articles eduda tsunogisdi © Bill Oliver 4 February 2007 Vol 6 Issue: #05 ISBN: pending O’siyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, “Hey, it’s ....” I was just surfing on E-bay the other day, not doing anything, just surfing on the site, and I came across a ceramic/china bell being auctioned. At that moment the bid was around $70.00. My thoughts went to something like, “Now who’d pay that for a china bell?”, forgetting that some years ago, a neighbor of mine began collecting small ceramic bells to display in her front room. She paid more than that for some of hers and they were smaller – little ‘tinkly’ ones. Then, I noticed an iron cast trivet with an ceramic center. The bid for this item was very close to $50.00 I didn’t think much of the bell until I found the trivet. It wasn’t the items themselves that attracted my eye but rather the Autumn Leaf pattern on both of them. Bells and whistles started revolving in my mind’s eye. I remember rural home deliveries of gasoline and propane. In the city, there were delivery people for ice, milk, coal and Bibles. There was the vegetable man who came around twice weekly ‘hawking’ fresh vegetables. He always had samples for Grandma and us kids. I never questioned where he got those vegetables, I just presumed he grew them. That was where we got our tomatoes, cantalopes, peaches, etc. Watermelon we got from our Uncles’ farms. If we got peaches, I remember somewhere ice cream was made, but it slips my mind as to who had an ice cream maker. It might be because making ice cream was hard work for me. Hey, then there was the ‘ragman’ and the ‘junkman’. These two collected things you wanted to get rid of and sold items he thought would sell to someone else. Both these folks had horns which they blew before yelling out their business. Now that I’m thinking nostalgic there was the ‘Fuller Brush Man’ who periodically came to our houses. And the Watkins deliveryman; however, I don’t remember what he delivered. Getting back to the e-Bay items. I finally remembered where that Autumn Leaf pattern appeared in my mind. It was on the bowls and dishes that my aunts used every Sunday for our family dinners. For one reason or another, I most remember them at Aunt Nellie’s home. They were yellow with that pattern on them. Yep, they were from a catalog [wishing book] that the Jewel Tea Man brought. In the thirties while growing up I remember these door-to-door ‘traveling’ salesmen and their brown panel wagon or vans. Well, maybe it was in the ‘forties’ or the late thirties that I remember the brown trucks. Yes, it was a big deal when they came around. The Jewel Tea Company began in Chicago before I was born and even before Grandma Oliver got married. Household products were sold through a traveling salesforce from 1901 through 1981. They supplied most everything from grocery items, including baking powder, to cleaning supplies, as well as linens, cookware and items of china. The Jewel-T man sold many items one couldn’t find anywhere else and if one bought enough there were ‘specials’ – toys for children, candy, and ‘premiums’ such as Autumn Leaf china. What made a premium? Well, they are just items that one can purchase at a special price after purchasing other items totaling a certain amount. Barb and I did this with our ‘kitchen’ dishes from the A & P stores we frequented in the late fifties and early sixties. In fact I still have one of the plastic plates which our granddaughter likes to use as ‘hers’ because it is pink. At one time the Jewel-T company was a very large retailer. Back in the days when housewives did not drive and unless you lived in a metropolitan area where stores were not far apart, the Jewel Tea Company brought the store to the customer. With his delivery ‘wagon’ containing coffee, tea [yes, they did sell tea], spices, other grocery and household items, the Jewel Tea man was a welcome ‘caller’. He was also a retailer for other items such as clothing. He would take your order one week and deliver it the next. To thank customers for their patronage, they offered premiums and one of the most popular premiums was the pattern made exclusively for them by the Hall China Company. This was a stylized design of orange, browns and yellows with gold rims on pieces of chinaware. My family was not one that had much money for luxuries, but we must have drunk a lot of coffee and tea because dinnerware service of the Autumn Leaf pattern adorned many tables. By the nineteen forties we were making enough money to buy the pattern outright without going through the premium routine. By then the Jewel Tea company began putting out new speicalty items yearly to keep interest high. I would think that this was early ‘good’ marketing strategy for one could never own a ‘complete’ collection unless they kept up with all the new items. When housewives lived in less rural areas and drove, buying supplies from the traveling Jewel-T man was replaced by Jewel Tea stores. The dinnerware was discontinued in 1978, which took the Autumn Leaf collectibles into the secondary market. The pattern was re-introduced on a limited basis in 1990 by China Specialties and with some shapes never before made with that pattern. I’m not sure if they are still producing new pieces at this time or not. Well, we don’t hear anyone say, “Hey, it’s the Jewel-T man”, anymore, except in our heads. e-la-Di-e-das-Di ha-WI NV-WA-do-hi-ya NV-WA-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- 919 PostScript: I remember that the Jewel Tea man once came with unbreakable tumblers. To test that, I placed one on the floor and stepped on it. I’m sure you can conjure up the results. [Bill] "Myths are universal and timeless stories that reflect and shape our lives ..." Alexander McCall Smith, Dream Angus Archived articles: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=ilmassac

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GENT,NEWELL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.illinois.counties.jackson/226.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am also descended from George GENT and Harriet NEWELL. They were my Great Great Grandparents. George was born around 1854 in Tennessee and Harriet was born around 1861 in Kentucky.

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Richard, Did you check the SSDI? There is a link for it on the Rootsweb main page. Juli On 1/28/2007 10:20:24 AM, Richard Lentz (rlentzhsd@earthlink.net) wrote: > I'm searching for my mother's half brother Clifton Evans. > He was b. 1914 in I believe Herrin, Ill. > father: John Evans b. England abt. 1881. He "high-tailed" it back to > Eng. abt. start of the 1st WW. > mother: Catherine Sarah "Cassie" Conaway Turner Culbourth Evans Prather > "whew"! > > This is the only census I can find him: > > 1930 Federal Census. Ill., Sangamon Co., Springfield. N. 13th St. > 1116/91/92 > Hayes, Ernest head 26 Ill. Ill. Ill. Was 23 at first marriage. Was > watchmaker in watch factory. > Hayes, Mabel wife-h 28 Mo. Mo. Mo. (Actually Mo. Ill. Ill.) Was 15 at > first marriage. > Ewing, Leslie step-son 12 Ill. Ill. Mo. > Ewing, Frank L. step-son 9 Ill. Ill. Mo. > Evans, Clifton brother-in-law 16 Ill. England Mo. (Actually Ill Eng > Ill.) Was caster in a shoe factory. > > Richard > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILJACKSO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message