Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois Bill Oliver 9 March 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #10 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, We are all familiar with the rhyme ".... in fourteen hundred and ninety-two, Columbus sailed the ocean blue ...". This brings to mind that this continent was not named after Columbus, but Amerigo Vespucci. That was because Amerigo was the explorer who actually reached the continent. He explored up and down nearly the entire coast of South America. He was the first to actually realize that it was not Asia, but the discovery of a new continent and that another ocean would have to be crossed in order to reach Asia. On this date in 1454, Amerigo Vespucci, the explorer, was born. Other prominent folks had birth dates on this day are Leland Stanford, Governor and Senator, founder of Stanford University in 1824; Confederate Brigadier General Felix Huston Robertson in 1839; and <blush> in 1923, André Courréges France, the fashion designer responsible for the "miniskirt". On this date in 1820, Maria Monroe, daughter of the President James Monroe, marries in the White House. I love good bear stories — just the bare facts, will do. The most famous star figure [in the sky] is the Big Dipper. However, it is only part, a piece, of Ursa Major, the Great Bear. My animal fetish is the American Bald Eagle, though I have also an admiration for the bear. For what other animal will leave all fours to walk on its hind ones like a man? My family has had several encounters with the great beasts. Once while camping in a tent trailer above Bird Woman Falls in Yosemite National Park, we had our dog, Smoky Joe, with us. We were instructed to camp in a particular area that is set aside for campers with pets. This, we were told, was due to the idea that dogs and bears didn't mix well. Across the road from us, two young college ladies drove up in a Volkswagen "Bug" and set up their camp. They were friendly and told us that this was their first experience camping. The evening wore on and campers settled in for a long night's sleep. When out in the night, there arose such a clatter, with pots and pans being batted about, I arose from my bunk to see what was the matter. Out along the row of campers not a dog let out a woof. But across the road where the two college students were camped stood a rather large sow tearing packs open amidst their cooking gear. Frightened, the students explained that they had left a peanut butter sandwich out on a rock in case a bear should enter their campsite. They thought this would distract the animal from the rest of their gear. <sigh> The sow was not to be further "distracted" away from the goodies, so I went to phone the duty ranger for some assistance. On the way back to our campsite I discovered that both the bear and the students were gone. When I talked to the Ranger who came, he remarked that the yellow VW he saw speeding down the road must have been the students. Strange how those dogs in camp never raised a fuss. Bears have been a spiritual part of cultures throughout the world from very ancient times. They walk upright and are often considered to be connection between humans and other animals. Myths in every culture have "bear people". Bears are given knowledge and intelligence of medicinal herbs. We name things like bearberry, bear's paws, and bear clover. They experience an annual death and rebirth each year called hibernation. Many Native American cultures hold a high reverence for the animal. The oldest dance known to the Utes of southwestern Colorado is the Bear Dance, traditionally performed to secure the animal's blessing and signals the time of rebirth [spring] and renewal. The Zuni Peoples have stone charms in the shape of bears. And, it is believed that these charms hold a living power which rubs off onto the owner. On June 7th the Lewis and Clark expedition recorded that George Druer "Kild one Bar" — a black Ursus americanus. Bears were killed for meat and grease on the exhibition. What amazes me is the discovery of the great grizzly. It often took several shots to kill one of the massive animals. The Teton Sioux considered a grizzly hunt to be high sport using bow and arrow and spear. However, Meriwether Lewis concluded that he'd "... rather fight two Indians than one bear", even with the superiority of the rifle. The records of the expedition led to classing Ursus horribilis as a new or separate species. In Wood County, Ohio's Center Township, there is a story of three neighbors out hunting for coon, when they noticed a sycamore tree with its bark "badly" scratched. They fell the tree and out came a angry she bear. With one of their dogs wounded and the other with a holding bite on the bear, the bear was giving him a great big hug. Seeing this unfair struggle, one of the men split the bear's head with his axe. The cause of the bears ferociousness was the three cubs still in the tree. Each of the hunters took home a cub, but found it difficult to domesticate these wild little ones. Near the county seat of Golconda, Pope County, Illinois this past week saw the search for the escaped pet brown bear named Shawnee. The 500 pound, 7 foot tall animal spent the past two winters inside his owner's home. The Sheriff reports that there have been sightings but no tracks have been found. The Sheriff has also said that they will do what will be necessary to insure the safety of citizens, but all are hoping for a safe capture. Folks in the area are advised to secure any food and garbage that is outside to avoid attracting the animal. Folks are also advised not to run if they come into contact with the hear. The owner in a radio interview apparently stated that the bear would think it was play time. The best option offered is to back away slowly and drop an item, such as a coat or backpack, to distract the bear. One possibility for the disappearance of the animal is has found a place to bid to nature's calling — that is, hibernation. It is not unusual for a bear to wake once or more times during hibernation, maybe ole Shawnee felt the cold and decided it would be nice to rest a month or two. Well, I'm always for the underdog. I'm rooting that the animal will be found and returned to its owner unharmed. Wado, Bill -=- http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

I belive I have found my great great grandparents here. The times are about right. Jesse's occupation is correct (BUT, what is a coal digger as opposed to a coal miner?) I believe Jesse's middle name is Franklin. Does ANYONE have any information about this family. Please!!!! Peggy [email protected] 1880 United States Census Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Jesse F. JONES Self M Male W 31 IL Coal Digger --- --- Susan A. JONES Wife M Female W 23 IL Keeping House GA IL Margaret JONES Dau S Female W 1 IL At Home IL IL -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Murphysboro, Jackson, Illinois Family History Library Film 1254215 NA Film Number T9-0215 Page Number 139B

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The circuit clerk's office should have that file. Velda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILJACKSON] Death Inquest How do I go about finding out about an inquest that was held on a death in Murphysboro, Jackson County? Debbie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== PLEASE NOTE: Posting of items of RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL CONTENT, VIRUSES WARNINGS, CHAIN LETTERS, or SPAM will result in being removed from the list. If you have any questions regarding this, contact the list administrator, Karima mailto:[email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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Researching ancestor's of Alberta Schimpf-Stephens. She was born 8-11-1918 in IL, I'm guessing Jackson Co. She has family who live in Murphysboro. Her father "Grandpa Bill" was named either Henry Sebastian Schimpf or William Sebastian Schimpf. Her mother was possibly named Emma.I look forward to any info at all!! Thanks so much, Melissa Foster-Rose :) <A HREF="www.angelfire.com/ky3/nuts">www.angelfire.com/ky3/nuts</A> Melissa Foster-Rose "My Family Tree is Full of NUTS!!! Researching the following surnames: BIRT, BOLIN-OSBORNE, BRAY, BRONAUGH, BROWN, BUCKLES, CANADA, CARRICK, CARTER, CHAMPION, CHANDLER, CHEW, COWGER/KOGER/COGER, DAVENPORT, DICKERSON, DICKS/DIX/DIECKS, DOAN/DOANE, DUNNING, EYE, FOSTER, FRARY, GREEN, HARVEY, HAWKS, HIATT, HINSDALE, HOLLAND, KELLY, LARIMER, MADDOCK, MCGREW, MCMICAN, MCPHERSON, MELTON, MENDENHALL, NEWLIN, OSBORNE, PARKER, RARIDEN, VAUGHN, WELLS, WOODWARD, ZORN. ALSO, ROSE, PETTY, MCHUGH, CLINE

Melissa, I grew up in Murphysboro and went to school with a Dale Ray Schimpf (graduated in 1979). I checked on-line and there are currently three Schimpfs that still live in town. (1) Dale Schmipf, P.O. Box 1423, 618-684-4523, (2) Harold Schimpf, 1927 Hortense Street, 618-687-1488 and (3) Kevin Schmipf, 1 Silver Road, 618-529-9155. I think Harold might be Dale's father but I can't remember for sure. Hope this helps Mary Riseling Springfield, IL [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:21 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] schimpf > Researching ancestor's of Alberta Schimpf-Stephens. She was born 8-11-1918 in > IL, I'm guessing Jackson Co. She has family who live in Murphysboro. Her > father "Grandpa Bill" was named either Henry Sebastian Schimpf or William > Sebastian Schimpf. Her mother was possibly named Emma.I look forward to any > info at all!! Thanks so much, > Melissa Foster-Rose :) > > <A HREF="www.angelfire.com/ky3/nuts">www.angelfire.com/ky3/nuts</A> > > > Melissa Foster-Rose > "My Family Tree is Full of NUTS!!! > > Researching the following surnames: BIRT, BOLIN-OSBORNE, BRAY, BRONAUGH, > BROWN, BUCKLES, CANADA, CARRICK, CARTER, CHAMPION, CHANDLER, CHEW, > COWGER/KOGER/COGER, DAVENPORT, DICKERSON, DICKS/DIX/DIECKS, DOAN/DOANE, > DUNNING, EYE, FOSTER, FRARY, GREEN, HARVEY, HAWKS, HIATT, HINSDALE, HOLLAND, > KELLY, LARIMER, MADDOCK, MCGREW, MCMICAN, MCPHERSON, MELTON, MENDENHALL, > NEWLIN, OSBORNE, PARKER, RARIDEN, VAUGHN, WELLS, WOODWARD, ZORN. > > ALSO, ROSE, PETTY, MCHUGH, CLINE > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I thank you for responding. I passed your note on to my second cousin who is looking for the Jung family. I had hoped to get a lead on those who live in Murphysboro, if there are any left there. Best regards, Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Peg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] JUNG Descendants > Darlene, > > I have Julia Jung who married Phillip Brandenburger, they are in the 1860 census in > Smithton, St. Clair Co., IL. I believe Julia's father was Peter Jung. Smithton is > near Belleville. They came from Germany, but I'm not sure what area. > > I believe my great grandmother Julia Germann Ditzler of Jackson Co. was their > granddaughter. This family came to Jackson Co., from St. Clair Co. Recognize any of > these names? > > Peg Crain Luthy > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Darlene Burzynski" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:10 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] JUNG Descendants > > > Please contact me if you are descendants of Anton, Arthur or Siegmund Jung. This > family originated in the Alsace-Lorraine France area, or the Saarburg, Lothringen, > Germany area. Some of the family came to IL, specifically to Belleville, in 1853. > > Arthur, Anton and Siegmund were living in Murphysboro in 1914/15. > > Hearing from you would be a pleasure. > Darlene Burzynski > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > * * * HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET?? * * * > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Do you have a resource you could share with the list members? Would you be willing to do some "lookups" for a limited time period? If you would, please let the members know. Thank you! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Darlene, I have Julia Jung who married Phillip Brandenburger, they are in the 1860 census in Smithton, St. Clair Co., IL. I believe Julia's father was Peter Jung. Smithton is near Belleville. They came from Germany, but I'm not sure what area. I believe my great grandmother Julia Germann Ditzler of Jackson Co. was their granddaughter. This family came to Jackson Co., from St. Clair Co. Recognize any of these names? Peg Crain Luthy [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: " Darlene Burzynski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] JUNG Descendants Please contact me if you are descendants of Anton, Arthur or Siegmund Jung. This family originated in the Alsace-Lorraine France area, or the Saarburg, Lothringen, Germany area. Some of the family came to IL, specifically to Belleville, in 1853. Arthur, Anton and Siegmund were living in Murphysboro in 1914/15. Hearing from you would be a pleasure. Darlene Burzynski ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== * * * HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET?? * * * http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Please contact me if you are descendants of Anton, Arthur or Siegmund Jung. This family originated in the Alsace-Lorraine France area, or the Saarburg, Lothringen, Germany area. Some of the family came to IL, specifically to Belleville, in 1853. Arthur, Anton and Siegmund were living in Murphysboro in 1914/15. Hearing from you would be a pleasure. Darlene Burzynski

IRAD at Carbondale, IL (618)453-3040 Mon.-Fri. 9am to 4 pm. I did see on my list after I had answered you that IRAD only has marriages from 1842 to 1915 for Jackson Co. You might also try Jackson Co. Historical Society at: [email protected] or their address is: 1616 Edith Street, Murphysboro, IL 62966. I haven't found a phone number for them. Peg ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Basden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] MARRIAGE LICENSE NEEDED Thanks Peg. Do you have a phone number for them? George E. Basden Basden Photography [email protected] http://www.basden.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Peg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] MARRIAGE LICENSE NEEDED > You can call and order by phone from IRAD, they will do a search, I think you only > pay for the copy. They are real friendly down there. > > Peg Crain Luthy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Basden" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:15 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] MARRIAGE LICENSE NEEDED > > > Wondering if there is someone around the Carbondale area that could possibly help > me. I need to get a copy of the marriage license for my grandparents. > > Sadly, Murphysboro no longer has a copy of it. I am wondering if IRAD may have it. > License I am looking for is Edgar Basden and Grace Wilcox about 1916-1918. > > Thanks. > > George E. Basden > Basden Photography > [email protected] > http://www.basden.com > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > * * * HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET?? * * * > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Peg. Do you have a phone number for them? George E. Basden Basden Photography [email protected] http://www.basden.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Peg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] MARRIAGE LICENSE NEEDED > You can call and order by phone from IRAD, they will do a search, I think you only > pay for the copy. They are real friendly down there. > > Peg Crain Luthy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Basden" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:15 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] MARRIAGE LICENSE NEEDED > > > Wondering if there is someone around the Carbondale area that could possibly help > me. I need to get a copy of the marriage license for my grandparents. > > Sadly, Murphysboro no longer has a copy of it. I am wondering if IRAD may have it. > License I am looking for is Edgar Basden and Grace Wilcox about 1916-1918. > > Thanks. > > George E. Basden > Basden Photography > [email protected] > http://www.basden.com > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > * * * HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET?? * * * > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

You can call and order by phone from IRAD, they will do a search, I think you only pay for the copy. They are real friendly down there. Peg Crain Luthy ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Basden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:15 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] MARRIAGE LICENSE NEEDED Wondering if there is someone around the Carbondale area that could possibly help me. I need to get a copy of the marriage license for my grandparents. Sadly, Murphysboro no longer has a copy of it. I am wondering if IRAD may have it. License I am looking for is Edgar Basden and Grace Wilcox about 1916-1918. Thanks. George E. Basden Basden Photography [email protected] http://www.basden.com ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Wondering if there is someone around the Carbondale area that could possibly help me. I need to get a copy of the marriage license for my grandparents. Sadly, Murphysboro no longer has a copy of it. I am wondering if IRAD may have it. License I am looking for is Edgar Basden and Grace Wilcox about 1916-1918. Thanks. George E. Basden Basden Photography [email protected] http://www.basden.com

Good Morning Dolores, Thank you for your comments. Every "good" Ulster Irish had their still. Sometime go back in a history book and read about them "good" folks in western Pennsylvania that resisted paying Hamilton's "goods" tax. It was a very short, but bloodless war. And, BTW, since this is also the year of the Bicentennial Year of the Louisiana Purchase, I'll say that Captain Merriwether Lewis was involved in that Rebellion in Pennsylvania. Have fun. Bill Oliver -=- Dolores wrote: > Bill, enjoy your articles......had you relatives been moonshiners like some > of mine, you wouldn't have had so much to write about!!! > Dolores > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:07 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Little Egypt Heritage Articles, 2 Mar 2003, Vol 2 #9 > > > Little Egypt Heritage Article > > Stories of Southern Illinois > > Bill Oliver > > > > 2 March 2003 > > Vol 2 Issue: #9 > > ISBN: pending > > > > Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, > > > > "A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo > > grass." > > --Crazy Horse, Oglala Sioux > > > > This has been an eventful week. I'll bet Mr Rogers likes > > his new Neighborhood! Crayola Crayons are 100 years old, as > > is the Ford Motor Company. Yesterday, March 1st, Singer > > Harry Belafonte and Actor-Director Ron Howard celebrated > > birth dates; with twenty-seven years difference in their > > ages. In 1781, the Continental Congress adopted the > > Articles of Confederation on March 1st. Also, on March 1st, > > in 1872, Congress authorized the creation of Yellowstone > > National Park. On the first of March, 1845, President John > > Tyler signed a congressional resolution to annex the > > Republic of Texas; while in 1953 a President finally signed > > the admittance of Ohio as the eighteenth state of the > > Union. Beginning yesterday, Ohio officially began its > > yearlong celebration of the 200th year anniversary of > > statehood by moving the state capital back to Chillicothe. > > But, only for the day. > > > > Some of my ancestors, grandfathers and great grandfathers, > > just felt that farming was not their calling. My maternal > > Grandfather was a printer in the days when type was set by > > hand and printing machines needed an operator. His father > > was a Carny Barker with traveling shows. And, his > > Grandfather, I've been told, was a mason, and laid some of > > the streets of Reading, Pennsylvania. Great Grandpa tried > > farming for awhile after meeting and marrying Great > > Grandma. He supplemented his income as a potato farmer with > > brick laying, like his father. He then turned to "buggie" > > striping and finally to house painting. > > > > My paternal Grandpa tried farming but just didn't like it. > > He tried mining coal and working for the railroad. For > > awhile, with his brother, he operated a street car in > > Cincinnati, Ohio. He eventually operated cranes which > > loaded railroad ties onto flat cars. > > > > Farming east of the Mississippi River and farming west of it > > was much different. In the west the differences in soil and > > availability of water have greatly influenced crops grown. > > When Great Grandpa farmed with his in-laws in Nebraska, corn > > was the big crop. Vegetable farming was not more than for > > domestic use. His potato crops were not very successful. > > > > Economic factors, including the decline in Federal Support > > for cereal grains and oilseeds, farmers looked for > > additional and alternative crops to grow. They looked for > > high value crops with long term market value. Sugar beets > > and potatoes produced higher returns per acre than small > > grains which produced only marginal returns for the work > > invested. Since root crops were good for a long term market > > value, other root crops such as onions, red beets, carrots, > > parsnips, and even rutabagas could be mechanized in both > > production and harvesting. So, with irrigation and the ever > > adventurous plains farmer, these crops are being added to > > the high value crops being grown today. > > > > As these words flow onto my word processing software, it is > > once again snowing. And, this reminds me that 'tis the > > season. It all started with Native Peoples. One of the > > common threads of the peoples of America is the concept of > > 'spirit'. Meaning was divined from things they > > experienced. They got meaning from the rivers, the > > mountains and valleys, particular rock formations, trees and > > all the animals that inhabited their lands. > > > > The Peoples each had a 'spirit', so it was natural for them > > to summarize that each thing that they encountered also had > > a 'spirit', and to each, its own spirit. This was passed > > from generation to generation from very ancient times. > > > > The Sioux danced the Buffalo Dance in the spring to thank > > the buffalo spirits that would give up their lives for the > > use of the Peoples. The Iraquois and other eastern Woodland > > Natives performed their ceremonies to thank the spirits of > > the deer before they were hunted and killed. > > > > At this time of year, when the weather warms for short > > periods of time, the saps run ... tree water. Sinzibuckwud, > > or maple sugar, was discovered long ago in antiquity. The > > 'tree water' comprised about 15% of the woodland Natives' > > diet. After collecting the 'tree water' they cooked the sap > > > > down by the arduous task of heating hot rocks in an open > > fire, then placing them into a wooden bowl filled with sap. > > The rocks, of course, had to make steam in order to cook > > down the sap. > > > > No one knows when a process was developed. However, the > > Native Peoples were very observant of their surroundings. As > > forest dwellers, they had developed a very sophisticated > > forest technology. An Iroquois' legend simply says that one > > of their youths watched a squirrel run up a maple tree and > > bite off a twig. The squirrel licked the sap off the twig. > > When the Iroquois youth tried the same, he found that the > > sap was sweet. Canadians have observed red squirrels running > > around from maple tree to maple tree nipping and creating > > deep wounds. After the wounds have exuded some sap, the > > squirrels return for lunch by eating the sugar crystals. > > If squirrels could do it, the Indians could definitely build > > on the squirrels' tactics. > > > > In selling America to potential immigrants, the benefits and > > practice of maple sugar making was exploited in the travel > > brochures of the day. The "barkers" for both the north and > > the south touted that one could grow one's own sugar in > > one's own back yard. > > > > So like the Native Americans, from whom they learned the > > how, the first settlers to this country gashed the trees, > > collected and boiled the sap, making maple sugar in their > > own "back yards". Yankees that they were, they nigh > > immediately improved on the process by using metal pots to > > collect the 'tree water' and kettles in which to boil down > > the sap. > > > > Civil War buffs know that the use of maple sugar was > > regarded as an act of protest during the War Between the > > States. Cane sugar was an exclusive item from the Southern > > States, as was most of the molasses. Prior to and during > > that war, Northerners used maple sugar to sweeten their > > foods, thus, protesting against products from the South. > > > > Wado, > > > > > > Bill > > -=- > > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Do you have a resource you could share with the list members? Would you be willing to do some "lookups" for a limited time period? If you would, please let the members know. 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Bill, enjoy your articles......had you relatives been moonshiners like some of mine, you wouldn't have had so much to write about!!! Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:07 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Little Egypt Heritage Articles, 2 Mar 2003, Vol 2 #9 > Little Egypt Heritage Article > Stories of Southern Illinois > Bill Oliver > > 2 March 2003 > Vol 2 Issue: #9 > ISBN: pending > > Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, > > "A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo > grass." > --Crazy Horse, Oglala Sioux > > This has been an eventful week. I'll bet Mr Rogers likes > his new Neighborhood! Crayola Crayons are 100 years old, as > is the Ford Motor Company. Yesterday, March 1st, Singer > Harry Belafonte and Actor-Director Ron Howard celebrated > birth dates; with twenty-seven years difference in their > ages. In 1781, the Continental Congress adopted the > Articles of Confederation on March 1st. Also, on March 1st, > in 1872, Congress authorized the creation of Yellowstone > National Park. On the first of March, 1845, President John > Tyler signed a congressional resolution to annex the > Republic of Texas; while in 1953 a President finally signed > the admittance of Ohio as the eighteenth state of the > Union. Beginning yesterday, Ohio officially began its > yearlong celebration of the 200th year anniversary of > statehood by moving the state capital back to Chillicothe. > But, only for the day. > > Some of my ancestors, grandfathers and great grandfathers, > just felt that farming was not their calling. My maternal > Grandfather was a printer in the days when type was set by > hand and printing machines needed an operator. His father > was a Carny Barker with traveling shows. And, his > Grandfather, I've been told, was a mason, and laid some of > the streets of Reading, Pennsylvania. Great Grandpa tried > farming for awhile after meeting and marrying Great > Grandma. He supplemented his income as a potato farmer with > brick laying, like his father. He then turned to "buggie" > striping and finally to house painting. > > My paternal Grandpa tried farming but just didn't like it. > He tried mining coal and working for the railroad. For > awhile, with his brother, he operated a street car in > Cincinnati, Ohio. He eventually operated cranes which > loaded railroad ties onto flat cars. > > Farming east of the Mississippi River and farming west of it > was much different. In the west the differences in soil and > availability of water have greatly influenced crops grown. > When Great Grandpa farmed with his in-laws in Nebraska, corn > was the big crop. Vegetable farming was not more than for > domestic use. His potato crops were not very successful. > > Economic factors, including the decline in Federal Support > for cereal grains and oilseeds, farmers looked for > additional and alternative crops to grow. They looked for > high value crops with long term market value. Sugar beets > and potatoes produced higher returns per acre than small > grains which produced only marginal returns for the work > invested. Since root crops were good for a long term market > value, other root crops such as onions, red beets, carrots, > parsnips, and even rutabagas could be mechanized in both > production and harvesting. So, with irrigation and the ever > adventurous plains farmer, these crops are being added to > the high value crops being grown today. > > As these words flow onto my word processing software, it is > once again snowing. And, this reminds me that 'tis the > season. It all started with Native Peoples. One of the > common threads of the peoples of America is the concept of > 'spirit'. Meaning was divined from things they > experienced. They got meaning from the rivers, the > mountains and valleys, particular rock formations, trees and > all the animals that inhabited their lands. > > The Peoples each had a 'spirit', so it was natural for them > to summarize that each thing that they encountered also had > a 'spirit', and to each, its own spirit. This was passed > from generation to generation from very ancient times. > > The Sioux danced the Buffalo Dance in the spring to thank > the buffalo spirits that would give up their lives for the > use of the Peoples. The Iraquois and other eastern Woodland > Natives performed their ceremonies to thank the spirits of > the deer before they were hunted and killed. > > At this time of year, when the weather warms for short > periods of time, the saps run ... tree water. Sinzibuckwud, > or maple sugar, was discovered long ago in antiquity. The > 'tree water' comprised about 15% of the woodland Natives' > diet. After collecting the 'tree water' they cooked the sap > > down by the arduous task of heating hot rocks in an open > fire, then placing them into a wooden bowl filled with sap. > The rocks, of course, had to make steam in order to cook > down the sap. > > No one knows when a process was developed. However, the > Native Peoples were very observant of their surroundings. As > forest dwellers, they had developed a very sophisticated > forest technology. An Iroquois' legend simply says that one > of their youths watched a squirrel run up a maple tree and > bite off a twig. The squirrel licked the sap off the twig. > When the Iroquois youth tried the same, he found that the > sap was sweet. Canadians have observed red squirrels running > around from maple tree to maple tree nipping and creating > deep wounds. After the wounds have exuded some sap, the > squirrels return for lunch by eating the sugar crystals. > If squirrels could do it, the Indians could definitely build > on the squirrels' tactics. > > In selling America to potential immigrants, the benefits and > practice of maple sugar making was exploited in the travel > brochures of the day. The "barkers" for both the north and > the south touted that one could grow one's own sugar in > one's own back yard. > > So like the Native Americans, from whom they learned the > how, the first settlers to this country gashed the trees, > collected and boiled the sap, making maple sugar in their > own "back yards". Yankees that they were, they nigh > immediately improved on the process by using metal pots to > collect the 'tree water' and kettles in which to boil down > the sap. > > Civil War buffs know that the use of maple sugar was > regarded as an act of protest during the War Between the > States. Cane sugar was an exclusive item from the Southern > States, as was most of the molasses. Prior to and during > that war, Northerners used maple sugar to sweeten their > foods, thus, protesting against products from the South. > > Wado, > > > Bill > -=- > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Peg, this late.....11:20pm everybody needs to go to bed and let us do our "thing"!!! You wouldn't happen to be related to any WINCHESTERS, CROWELL,HOWELL,HELMS?? THANKS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT DOLORES ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Peg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] IL Marriage and Death sites > No Dolores, I'm having problems here as well as other genealogy websites, I think > it's the whole web tonight that has been slowed down by something. I was on the > Marriage site and it was working fine and all of a sudden it really slowed down, and > then would not recover a page. > > Peg Crain Luthy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dolores" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 9:51 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] IL Marriage and Death sites > > > Am I the only one to have problems getting through to these sites tonight? > Thanks, > Dolores > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:40 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] WINCHESTER, CROWELL > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: WINCHESTER, CROWELL, ANDREWS, CASSY, RILEY, INGALL/INGLES > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/217 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Sara Jane CROWELL b. Mecklenburg NC 1806 m. Thomas WINCHESTER b. > Mecklenburg, NC and later William Matthews WINCHESTER b. Mecklenburg NC. > > Sara Jane d.Jackson Co. IL. 1880 > > > > Benjamin Allen CROWELL b. Mecklenburg, NC. b. 1806 m. Jane Helms, > Catherine Goodwin, Elizabeth WINCHESTER. d. 1874 Jackson Co. IL. > > > > Miles CROWELL b. 1818 m. Martha Milstead, Emily Deen > > d. 1896 Jackson Co. IL. > > > > MY family of WINCHESTER siblings are in Calhoun Co. 1850. > > > > Mary V., Thomas, Elizabeth Jane, Harriett Ann, Angeline, with possible > mother- Elizabeth b. 1810 NC. > > not proven as WINCHESTERS but in the family are: Frank and Phoebe. > > Not living with the family at the time of the 1850 census is Sara > Winchester m. John Brazel.Brazzell, Calhoun Co.1853 > > > > If you can connect to these families, please contact me. > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Do you have a resource you could share with the list members? Would you be willing > to do some "lookups" for a limited time period? If you would, please let the > members know. Thank you! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Little Egypt Heritage Article Stories of Southern Illinois Bill Oliver 2 March 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #9 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, "A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass." --Crazy Horse, Oglala Sioux This has been an eventful week. I'll bet Mr Rogers likes his new Neighborhood! Crayola Crayons are 100 years old, as is the Ford Motor Company. Yesterday, March 1st, Singer Harry Belafonte and Actor-Director Ron Howard celebrated birth dates; with twenty-seven years difference in their ages. In 1781, the Continental Congress adopted the Articles of Confederation on March 1st. Also, on March 1st, in 1872, Congress authorized the creation of Yellowstone National Park. On the first of March, 1845, President John Tyler signed a congressional resolution to annex the Republic of Texas; while in 1953 a President finally signed the admittance of Ohio as the eighteenth state of the Union. Beginning yesterday, Ohio officially began its yearlong celebration of the 200th year anniversary of statehood by moving the state capital back to Chillicothe. But, only for the day. Some of my ancestors, grandfathers and great grandfathers, just felt that farming was not their calling. My maternal Grandfather was a printer in the days when type was set by hand and printing machines needed an operator. His father was a Carny Barker with traveling shows. And, his Grandfather, I've been told, was a mason, and laid some of the streets of Reading, Pennsylvania. Great Grandpa tried farming for awhile after meeting and marrying Great Grandma. He supplemented his income as a potato farmer with brick laying, like his father. He then turned to "buggie" striping and finally to house painting. My paternal Grandpa tried farming but just didn't like it. He tried mining coal and working for the railroad. For awhile, with his brother, he operated a street car in Cincinnati, Ohio. He eventually operated cranes which loaded railroad ties onto flat cars. Farming east of the Mississippi River and farming west of it was much different. In the west the differences in soil and availability of water have greatly influenced crops grown. When Great Grandpa farmed with his in-laws in Nebraska, corn was the big crop. Vegetable farming was not more than for domestic use. His potato crops were not very successful. Economic factors, including the decline in Federal Support for cereal grains and oilseeds, farmers looked for additional and alternative crops to grow. They looked for high value crops with long term market value. Sugar beets and potatoes produced higher returns per acre than small grains which produced only marginal returns for the work invested. Since root crops were good for a long term market value, other root crops such as onions, red beets, carrots, parsnips, and even rutabagas could be mechanized in both production and harvesting. So, with irrigation and the ever adventurous plains farmer, these crops are being added to the high value crops being grown today. As these words flow onto my word processing software, it is once again snowing. And, this reminds me that ‘tis the season. It all started with Native Peoples. One of the common threads of the peoples of America is the concept of ‘spirit'. Meaning was divined from things they experienced. They got meaning from the rivers, the mountains and valleys, particular rock formations, trees and all the animals that inhabited their lands. The Peoples each had a ‘spirit', so it was natural for them to summarize that each thing that they encountered also had a ‘spirit', and to each, its own spirit. This was passed from generation to generation from very ancient times. The Sioux danced the Buffalo Dance in the spring to thank the buffalo spirits that would give up their lives for the use of the Peoples. The Iraquois and other eastern Woodland Natives performed their ceremonies to thank the spirits of the deer before they were hunted and killed. At this time of year, when the weather warms for short periods of time, the saps run ... tree water. Sinzibuckwud, or maple sugar, was discovered long ago in antiquity. The ‘tree water' comprised about 15% of the woodland Natives' diet. After collecting the ‘tree water' they cooked the sap down by the arduous task of heating hot rocks in an open fire, then placing them into a wooden bowl filled with sap. The rocks, of course, had to make steam in order to cook down the sap. No one knows when a process was developed. However, the Native Peoples were very observant of their surroundings. As forest dwellers, they had developed a very sophisticated forest technology. An Iroquois' legend simply says that one of their youths watched a squirrel run up a maple tree and bite off a twig. The squirrel licked the sap off the twig. When the Iroquois youth tried the same, he found that the sap was sweet. Canadians have observed red squirrels running around from maple tree to maple tree nipping and creating deep wounds. After the wounds have exuded some sap, the squirrels return for lunch by eating the sugar crystals. If squirrels could do it, the Indians could definitely build on the squirrels' tactics. In selling America to potential immigrants, the benefits and practice of maple sugar making was exploited in the travel brochures of the day. The "barkers" for both the north and the south touted that one could grow one's own sugar in one's own back yard. So like the Native Americans, from whom they learned the how, the first settlers to this country gashed the trees, collected and boiled the sap, making maple sugar in their own "back yards". Yankees that they were, they nigh immediately improved on the process by using metal pots to collect the ‘tree water' and kettles in which to boil down the sap. Civil War buffs know that the use of maple sugar was regarded as an act of protest during the War Between the States. Cane sugar was an exclusive item from the Southern States, as was most of the molasses. Prior to and during that war, Northerners used maple sugar to sweeten their foods, thus, protesting against products from the South. Wado, Bill -=- http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Am I the only one to have problems getting through to these sites tonight? Thanks, Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] WINCHESTER, CROWELL > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: WINCHESTER, CROWELL, ANDREWS, CASSY, RILEY, INGALL/INGLES > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/217 > > Message Board Post: > > Sara Jane CROWELL b. Mecklenburg NC 1806 m. Thomas WINCHESTER b. Mecklenburg, NC and later William Matthews WINCHESTER b. Mecklenburg NC. > Sara Jane d.Jackson Co. IL. 1880 > > Benjamin Allen CROWELL b. Mecklenburg, NC. b. 1806 m. Jane Helms, Catherine Goodwin, Elizabeth WINCHESTER. d. 1874 Jackson Co. IL. > > Miles CROWELL b. 1818 m. Martha Milstead, Emily Deen > d. 1896 Jackson Co. IL. > > MY family of WINCHESTER siblings are in Calhoun Co. 1850. > > Mary V., Thomas, Elizabeth Jane, Harriett Ann, Angeline, with possible mother- Elizabeth b. 1810 NC. > not proven as WINCHESTERS but in the family are: Frank and Phoebe. > Not living with the family at the time of the 1850 census is Sara Winchester m. John Brazel.Brazzell, Calhoun Co.1853 > > If you can connect to these families, please contact me. > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I just checked the site again and it's worse now than it was when I gave up on it earlier. Maybe they are working on it. Sorry, no relation to any of your surnames, mine are CRAIN, DITZLER,GERMANN,LUTHY, and related names in Jackson Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dolores" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] IL Marriage and Death sites Thanks Peg, this late.....11:20pm everybody needs to go to bed and let us do our "thing"!!! You wouldn't happen to be related to any WINCHESTERS, CROWELL,HOWELL,HELMS?? THANKS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT DOLORES ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Peg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] IL Marriage and Death sites > No Dolores, I'm having problems here as well as other genealogy websites, I think > it's the whole web tonight that has been slowed down by something. I was on the > Marriage site and it was working fine and all of a sudden it really slowed down, and > then would not recover a page. > > Peg Crain Luthy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dolores" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 9:51 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] IL Marriage and Death sites > > > Am I the only one to have problems getting through to these sites tonight? > Thanks, > Dolores > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:40 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] WINCHESTER, CROWELL > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: WINCHESTER, CROWELL, ANDREWS, CASSY, RILEY, INGALL/INGLES > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/217 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Sara Jane CROWELL b. Mecklenburg NC 1806 m. Thomas WINCHESTER b. > Mecklenburg, NC and later William Matthews WINCHESTER b. Mecklenburg NC. > > Sara Jane d.Jackson Co. IL. 1880 > > > > Benjamin Allen CROWELL b. Mecklenburg, NC. b. 1806 m. Jane Helms, > Catherine Goodwin, Elizabeth WINCHESTER. d. 1874 Jackson Co. IL. > > > > Miles CROWELL b. 1818 m. Martha Milstead, Emily Deen > > d. 1896 Jackson Co. IL. > > > > MY family of WINCHESTER siblings are in Calhoun Co. 1850. > > > > Mary V., Thomas, Elizabeth Jane, Harriett Ann, Angeline, with possible > mother- Elizabeth b. 1810 NC. > > not proven as WINCHESTERS but in the family are: Frank and Phoebe. > > Not living with the family at the time of the 1850 census is Sara > Winchester m. John Brazel.Brazzell, Calhoun Co.1853 > > > > If you can connect to these families, please contact me. > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Do you have a resource you could share with the list members? Would you be willing > to do some "lookups" for a limited time period? If you would, please let the > members know. Thank you! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237