Linda, I have a listing of everyone buried in Goodbread Cemetery. Is there anything I can help you with? It is a small cemetery located between Gorham and Grand Tower, Illinois along Route 3 along the bottoms of the Mississippi River. It sits on a little hill about a 1/4 mile off the road. Goodbread was a familiar name in the early days of Jackson County history. I grew up in Jackson County (I left about 17 years ago) but I have been back and visited several times as I have relatives buried there. Mary Riseling Springfield, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Reichert <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Good Bread? > I received a death certificate today and the place of death is "Grand Tower, > Jackson County, Illinois".......place of burial says "Good Bread," the > undertaker Kuthmacher or Huthmacher address "Grand Tower" > > Can someone help me find more info on "Good Bread"? Is this a Cemetery? Is > it also in Grand Tower? > > I tried searching google for good bread and found a lot about "bread > machines" :o) > > Thanks!! > -- > Linda in MO > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness > http://www.raogk.org/ > Volunteer of Missouri Birth & Death Records Database > http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/resources/birthdeath/default.asp > > Researching: > Baker (was ?), Cohen (was Yuken), Friedman, Messer (Rus./Pol. > Bronx, NY) > related families: Bramms, Brozen, Silbey, Stein > Casey (Jackson Co, IL) > related families: Jackson > Crain (NC through GA and TN > Randolph Co, IL > Jackson/Perry Cos, IL) > related families: Pyatt > Deuser (Mensfelden, Germany > St. Louis, MO) > related families: Appel, Deusinger, Dielmann, Elbring, Fink, Grieb, Jung, > Schaffer, Strattmann > Gallagher (Ireland > IL) > Herzog (Germany > Jefferson or St. Genevieve Counties, MO) > Padfield (England > MD > TN > KY > IL > TX > MO) > related families: Kaiser > Reichert (Erlenbach am Main, Germany > St. Clair Co and Monroe Co, IL) > Regelman (Homberg, Prussia, Germany > Effingham Co., IL) > Swartz (Shenandoah Co,VA > Preble Co., OH > St. Clair Co., IL ) > Weber (Germany > OH > IL) > Wiesenborn (Sonnenberg, Germany > St. Clair Co., IL) > Ziegelmeyer (Langenbruecken, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany > Jefferson Co., MO) > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 3/26/2003 1:53:05 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > was German and not Irish as the Howard surname might indicate. > Thanks Cuz Shirley. Never realizes that I had a bit of German in me. Bob Carter

I wish I had studied German pronounciation. I have heard that my ancestor Conrad Will's name was pronounced as Coon-rod. His daughter Elizabeth Husband WILL married Benningsen BOON (Elizabeth and Benningsen were my g-g-g-grandparents) and they had a son they named Cyrus Conrad Boon. My mother and her father used to speak of a "Coon" Boon, who visited the Wilson family in Illinois (after he had moved to Oregon), but it took me quite some time to realize that Coon Boon was Cyrus Conrad Boon, because it was not until years later that I discovered that the Germans pronounced Conrad as Coon-rod. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Todd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:51 PM Subject: German Pronunciation Re: [ILJACKSON] Good Bread? > Gee this makes sense even to me. I sure can not pronounce German but have had old timers tell me that Gut in German is Good and pronounced "Goot"and others that the German "d" is pronounced as a "t" to us. Also that "herz" in Gutherz was for Good Heart. Mom called in "broodt" instead of bread quite a bit; but unfortunately in our family the German language quit being used daily with her generation. My sister and I still laugh about our father saying Mom's family talked about him in German so he couldn't understand after we found out his grandmother Mary Anna Darr( also Tarr someplaces ) was German and not Irish as the Howard surname might indicate. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Shawcross > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Good Bread? > > > Linda, > > There is a Goodbread (one word) cemetery in Grand Tower. It is alongside > Route 3, at the north end of Grand Tower. > > The family originated in Germany, where the name was GUTBRODT (which means > Goodbread in English). > > I have the family traced back to 1604 in Nordheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany. > You are welcome to review this info in my SHAWCROSS gedcom file at Rootsweb. > com > > Tom Shawcross > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Reichert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:04 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Good Bread? > > > > I received a death certificate today and the place of death is "Grand > Tower, > > Jackson County, Illinois".......place of burial says "Good Bread," the > > undertaker Kuthmacher or Huthmacher address "Grand Tower" > > > > Can someone help me find more info on "Good Bread"? Is this a Cemetery? Is > > it also in Grand Tower? > > > > I tried searching google for good bread and found a lot about "bread > > machines" :o) > > > > Thanks!! > > -- > > Linda in MO > > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness > > http://www.raogk.org/ > > Volunteer of Missouri Birth & Death Records Database > > http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/resources/birthdeath/default.asp > > > > Researching: > > Baker (was ?), Cohen (was Yuken), Friedman, Messer (Rus./Pol. > Bronx, NY) > > related families: Bramms, Brozen, Silbey, Stein > > Casey (Jackson Co, IL) > > related families: Jackson > > Crain (NC through GA and TN > Randolph Co, IL > Jackson/Perry Cos, IL) > > related families: Pyatt > > Deuser (Mensfelden, Germany > St. Louis, MO) > > related families: Appel, Deusinger, Dielmann, Elbring, Fink, Grieb, Jung, > > Schaffer, Strattmann > > Gallagher (Ireland > IL) > > Herzog (Germany > Jefferson or St. Genevieve Counties, MO) > > Padfield (England > MD > TN > KY > IL > TX > MO) > > related families: Kaiser > > Reichert (Erlenbach am Main, Germany > St. Clair Co and Monroe Co, IL) > > Regelman (Homberg, Prussia, Germany > Effingham Co., IL) > > Swartz (Shenandoah Co,VA > Preble Co., OH > St. Clair Co., IL ) > > Weber (Germany > OH > IL) > > Wiesenborn (Sonnenberg, Germany > St. Clair Co., IL) > > Ziegelmeyer (Langenbruecken, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany > Jefferson Co., > MO) > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > How long has it been since you posted to the list? 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Gee this makes sense even to me. I sure can not pronounce German but have had old timers tell me that Gut in German is Good and pronounced "Goot"and others that the German "d" is pronounced as a "t" to us. Also that "herz" in Gutherz was for Good Heart. Mom called in "broodt" instead of bread quite a bit; but unfortunately in our family the German language quit being used daily with her generation. My sister and I still laugh about our father saying Mom's family talked about him in German so he couldn't understand after we found out his grandmother Mary Anna Darr( also Tarr someplaces ) was German and not Irish as the Howard surname might indicate. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Shawcross To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Good Bread? Linda, There is a Goodbread (one word) cemetery in Grand Tower. It is alongside Route 3, at the north end of Grand Tower. The family originated in Germany, where the name was GUTBRODT (which means Goodbread in English). I have the family traced back to 1604 in Nordheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany. You are welcome to review this info in my SHAWCROSS gedcom file at Rootsweb. com Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Reichert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Good Bread? > I received a death certificate today and the place of death is "Grand Tower, > Jackson County, Illinois".......place of burial says "Good Bread," the > undertaker Kuthmacher or Huthmacher address "Grand Tower" > > Can someone help me find more info on "Good Bread"? Is this a Cemetery? Is > it also in Grand Tower? > > I tried searching google for good bread and found a lot about "bread > machines" :o) > > Thanks!! > -- > Linda in MO > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness > http://www.raogk.org/ > Volunteer of Missouri Birth & Death Records Database > http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/resources/birthdeath/default.asp > > Researching: > Baker (was ?), Cohen (was Yuken), Friedman, Messer (Rus./Pol. > Bronx, NY) > related families: Bramms, Brozen, Silbey, Stein > Casey (Jackson Co, IL) > related families: Jackson > Crain (NC through GA and TN > Randolph Co, IL > Jackson/Perry Cos, IL) > related families: Pyatt > Deuser (Mensfelden, Germany > St. Louis, MO) > related families: Appel, Deusinger, Dielmann, Elbring, Fink, Grieb, Jung, > Schaffer, Strattmann > Gallagher (Ireland > IL) > Herzog (Germany > Jefferson or St. Genevieve Counties, MO) > Padfield (England > MD > TN > KY > IL > TX > MO) > related families: Kaiser > Reichert (Erlenbach am Main, Germany > St. Clair Co and Monroe Co, IL) > Regelman (Homberg, Prussia, Germany > Effingham Co., IL) > Swartz (Shenandoah Co,VA > Preble Co., OH > St. Clair Co., IL ) > Weber (Germany > OH > IL) > Wiesenborn (Sonnenberg, Germany > St. Clair Co., IL) > Ziegelmeyer (Langenbruecken, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany > Jefferson Co., MO) > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== PLEASE NOTE: Posting of items of RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL CONTENT, VIRUSES WARNINGS, CHAIN LETTERS, or SPAM will result in being removed from the list. If you have any questions regarding this, contact the list administrator, Karima mailto:[email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 03/26/2003 11:09:38 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Can someone help me find more info on "Good Bread"? Is this a Cemetery? Is > it also in Grand Tower? > > Hi Linda, Yes, this is a cemetery in Grand Tower. Sharon ---- Stand Proud America

Linda, There is a Goodbread (one word) cemetery in Grand Tower. It is alongside Route 3, at the north end of Grand Tower. The family originated in Germany, where the name was GUTBRODT (which means Goodbread in English). I have the family traced back to 1604 in Nordheim, Wuerttemberg, Germany. You are welcome to review this info in my SHAWCROSS gedcom file at Rootsweb. com Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Reichert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Good Bread? > I received a death certificate today and the place of death is "Grand Tower, > Jackson County, Illinois".......place of burial says "Good Bread," the > undertaker Kuthmacher or Huthmacher address "Grand Tower" > > Can someone help me find more info on "Good Bread"? Is this a Cemetery? Is > it also in Grand Tower? > > I tried searching google for good bread and found a lot about "bread > machines" :o) > > Thanks!! > -- > Linda in MO > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness > http://www.raogk.org/ > Volunteer of Missouri Birth & Death Records Database > http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/resources/birthdeath/default.asp > > Researching: > Baker (was ?), Cohen (was Yuken), Friedman, Messer (Rus./Pol. > Bronx, NY) > related families: Bramms, Brozen, Silbey, Stein > Casey (Jackson Co, IL) > related families: Jackson > Crain (NC through GA and TN > Randolph Co, IL > Jackson/Perry Cos, IL) > related families: Pyatt > Deuser (Mensfelden, Germany > St. Louis, MO) > related families: Appel, Deusinger, Dielmann, Elbring, Fink, Grieb, Jung, > Schaffer, Strattmann > Gallagher (Ireland > IL) > Herzog (Germany > Jefferson or St. Genevieve Counties, MO) > Padfield (England > MD > TN > KY > IL > TX > MO) > related families: Kaiser > Reichert (Erlenbach am Main, Germany > St. Clair Co and Monroe Co, IL) > Regelman (Homberg, Prussia, Germany > Effingham Co., IL) > Swartz (Shenandoah Co,VA > Preble Co., OH > St. Clair Co., IL ) > Weber (Germany > OH > IL) > Wiesenborn (Sonnenberg, Germany > St. Clair Co., IL) > Ziegelmeyer (Langenbruecken, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany > Jefferson Co., MO) > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi - I am new to the list and wanted to add that I am researching the following Jackson County surnames Casey, Crain, Jackson and Pyatt I have photos of Crain stones at Creek Paum Cemetery http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lindainmo/il_creekpaum_cem you might have to copy paste the above url I am missing couple of stones at this cemetery, mainly some Crain women that married and I didn't know the surname at the time of the photo request. -- Linda in MO Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness http://www.raogk.org/ Volunteer of Missouri Birth & Death Records Database http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/resources/birthdeath/default.asp Researching: Baker (was ?), Cohen (was Yuken), Friedman, Messer (Rus./Pol. > Bronx, NY) related families: Bramms, Brozen, Silbey, Stein Casey (Jackson Co, IL) Crain (NC through GA and TN > Randolph Co, IL > Jackson/Perry Cos, IL) related families: Pyatt Deuser (Mensfelden, Germany > St. Louis, MO) related families: Appel, Deusinger, Dielmann, Elbring, Fink, Grieb, Jung, Schaffer Strattmann Gallagher (Ireland > IL) Herzog (Germany > Jefferson or St. Genevieve Counties, MO) Padfield (England > MD > TN > KY > IL > TX > MO) related families: Kaiser Reichert (Erlenbach am Main, Germany > St. Clair Co and Monroe Co, IL) Regelman (Homberg, Prussia, Germany > Effingham Co., IL) Swartz (Shenandoah Co,VA > Preble Co., OH > St. Clair Co., IL ) Weber (IL) Wiesenborn (Sonnenberg, Germany > St. Clair Co., IL) Ziegelmeyer (Langenbruecken, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany > Jefferson Co., MO)

I received a death certificate today and the place of death is "Grand Tower, Jackson County, Illinois".......place of burial says "Good Bread," the undertaker Kuthmacher or Huthmacher address "Grand Tower" Can someone help me find more info on "Good Bread"? Is this a Cemetery? Is it also in Grand Tower? I tried searching google for good bread and found a lot about "bread machines" :o) Thanks!! -- Linda in MO Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness http://www.raogk.org/ Volunteer of Missouri Birth & Death Records Database http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/resources/birthdeath/default.asp Researching: Baker (was ?), Cohen (was Yuken), Friedman, Messer (Rus./Pol. > Bronx, NY) related families: Bramms, Brozen, Silbey, Stein Casey (Jackson Co, IL) related families: Jackson Crain (NC through GA and TN > Randolph Co, IL > Jackson/Perry Cos, IL) related families: Pyatt Deuser (Mensfelden, Germany > St. Louis, MO) related families: Appel, Deusinger, Dielmann, Elbring, Fink, Grieb, Jung, Schaffer, Strattmann Gallagher (Ireland > IL) Herzog (Germany > Jefferson or St. Genevieve Counties, MO) Padfield (England > MD > TN > KY > IL > TX > MO) related families: Kaiser Reichert (Erlenbach am Main, Germany > St. Clair Co and Monroe Co, IL) Regelman (Homberg, Prussia, Germany > Effingham Co., IL) Swartz (Shenandoah Co,VA > Preble Co., OH > St. Clair Co., IL ) Weber (Germany > OH > IL) Wiesenborn (Sonnenberg, Germany > St. Clair Co., IL) Ziegelmeyer (Langenbruecken, Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany > Jefferson Co., MO)

LDS Film # 968928 Jackson County IL Marriages Register 1878--90 p. 28 Samuel Crain, age 23, son of W.H. Crain and Louisa Quillman, to Louisa Crain, age 19, daughter of Anderson D. Henson and Cynthia A. Thompson. Her first marriage.

The death record I was given is the record of Louisa Crain wife of Samuel Crain and later Ashby Crain, died Feb 9, 1915 in Perry and was buried at Creekpaum Cemetery (I do have picture of headstone) Imformant was Emory Crain, her son by Samuel. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: Fw: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> > To: "georgia draves" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > Georgia, > > > > I don't think we have figured this out yet, but we do seem to be making > some > > progress. > > > > The wife of Squire CRAIN was Louisa MANSKER. > > > > We have been discussing three other Louises, all born with the HENSON > > surname. > > > > 1. Louisa C. HENSON, b. Oct 1860, the daughter of Benjamin B. HENSON and > > Louisa WOOLRICK. > > 2. Louise HENSON, b. abt 1862, the daughter of Anderson D. HENSON and > > Cynthia Ann WHITSON > > 3. Louisa A. HENSON, daughter of John A. HENSON and Cynthia THOMPSON > (Randy > > Crain has found her Randolph County death record). > > > > There is not complete agreement regarding the ancestry of each of these > > three Louise/Louisa HENSONs. The question on the table is which Louise > > HENSON married > > Samuel Jefferson CRAIN and Ashby B. CRAIN. > > > > (I think this whole discussion was started by an inquiry from Peg Luthy, > > regarding which Louise HENSON married the CRAINs). > > > > Earlier, I thought I had narrowed the possibilities by finding an 1870 > > census record that listed Louise number 2 as Laura, but one of the people > > discussing this has provided transcripts of two probate records that > > indicate her name was Louise, not Laura. She was the daughter of Anderson > > HENSON and Cynthia Ann WHITSON (according to my records) but some people > > believe she was the daughter of Anderson HENSON and Cynthia THOMPSON. I > have > > never seen any record of a marriage between Anderson HENSON and Cynthia > > THOMPSON, but perhaps they did marry. Actually, I have not found any > > marriage record for Anderson D. HENSON, his marriage to Cynthia WHGITSON > was > > provided to me by a WHITSON descendant. > > > > According to the death record that Randy found, Louisa A. (HENSON) was the > > daughter of John A. HENSON and Cynthia THOMPSON. (Was his name John > > Anderson HENSON?) I have no records of them. I had thought that Louisa C. > > HENSON had married the CRAINs, but now I am not sure about that, as I did > > not know of the Louisa A. HENSON until we started this discussion. > > > > In summary, I had thought that Louisa C. HENSON (number 1 above) had > married > > the CRAINS. Now, I suspect I was was wrong about that. I don't know who > > Louise HENSON (number 2 above) may have married, and I do not have any > > information, other than the death record that Randy found, regarding > Louise > > A. HENSON (number 3 above). Randy did not specifically state where number > 3 > > was the wife of the CRAINs, but I am assuming that he thinks she was. > > > > Tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "georgia draves" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > > > > I have followed this discussion but may have missed some of the notes. > I > > > research the Crain family and that was what drew my attention to these > > > messages. > > > A couple of years ago I was over at the Crain cemetery and made > pictures; > > I > > > have a picture of a tombstone which is inscribed: Louisa, wife of > Squire > > > Crain, died Feb. 16, 1855, aged 55 yrs, 1 m, 19 ds > > > Is this yet another Louisa. I'm sorry to bother you but I have been > > reading > > > most of the messages but may have missed one that explained this. > georgia > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ps: I have John Benjamin Crain's DAR RW papers which lists all his > > children > > > and those who settled south of Chester. Also, if any of you are > > researching > > > Crain's do you know the date of the newspaper (1920's or 30's) which > gave > > > the history of the Crain's settled in that area (I call them Crain > Island > > > Crain's) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:52 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for providing this information. The 1870 census identifies her > > as > > > > Laura, but you have now provided two records that identify her as > > Louise. > > > I > > > > will note this in my record for her, and I will assume that her name > > > > probably really was Louise. She was the daughter of Anderson D. HENSON > > and > > > > Cynthia Ann WHITSON > > > > > > > > However, the question still remains as to which Louise HENSON married > > the > > > > CRAINs. The death record that Randy found indicates that Louise Henson > > > > Crains' father was John HENSON, not Anderson D. HENSON. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:57 AM > > > > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > > > > > > > > > > LDS Film # 968940 Jackson County, IL Probate 1876--79 > > > > > > > > > > p. 226 C.A. Henson . . 20 Dec 1877 . . Philip Easterly guardian > of > > > > Boone > > > > > and Jacob Henson and Louisa Henson, minor heirs of Cynthia A. > Henson. > > . > > > . > > > > > Boone is 21 years of age now. > > > > > > > > > > Vol 8 1879--81, p. 68, . . . 26 Nov 1879 . . C.A. Henson . . Philip > > > > Easterly > > > > > guardian of minor heirs of C.A. Henson deceased . . receipts of > Jacob > > > and > > > > > Louisa Henson for $57.12 each. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > > > > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > > > > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > > > List Guidelines: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > > > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > > > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > > List Guidelines: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> To: "georgia draves" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > Georgia, > > I don't think we have figured this out yet, but we do seem to be making some > progress. > > The wife of Squire CRAIN was Louisa MANSKER. > > We have been discussing three other Louises, all born with the HENSON > surname. > > 1. Louisa C. HENSON, b. Oct 1860, the daughter of Benjamin B. HENSON and > Louisa WOOLRICK. > 2. Louise HENSON, b. abt 1862, the daughter of Anderson D. HENSON and > Cynthia Ann WHITSON > 3. Louisa A. HENSON, daughter of John A. HENSON and Cynthia THOMPSON (Randy > Crain has found her Randolph County death record). > > There is not complete agreement regarding the ancestry of each of these > three Louise/Louisa HENSONs. The question on the table is which Louise > HENSON married > Samuel Jefferson CRAIN and Ashby B. CRAIN. > > (I think this whole discussion was started by an inquiry from Peg Luthy, > regarding which Louise HENSON married the CRAINs). > > Earlier, I thought I had narrowed the possibilities by finding an 1870 > census record that listed Louise number 2 as Laura, but one of the people > discussing this has provided transcripts of two probate records that > indicate her name was Louise, not Laura. She was the daughter of Anderson > HENSON and Cynthia Ann WHITSON (according to my records) but some people > believe she was the daughter of Anderson HENSON and Cynthia THOMPSON. I have > never seen any record of a marriage between Anderson HENSON and Cynthia > THOMPSON, but perhaps they did marry. Actually, I have not found any > marriage record for Anderson D. HENSON, his marriage to Cynthia WHGITSON was > provided to me by a WHITSON descendant. > > According to the death record that Randy found, Louisa A. (HENSON) was the > daughter of John A. HENSON and Cynthia THOMPSON. (Was his name John > Anderson HENSON?) I have no records of them. I had thought that Louisa C. > HENSON had married the CRAINs, but now I am not sure about that, as I did > not know of the Louisa A. HENSON until we started this discussion. > > In summary, I had thought that Louisa C. HENSON (number 1 above) had married > the CRAINS. Now, I suspect I was was wrong about that. I don't know who > Louise HENSON (number 2 above) may have married, and I do not have any > information, other than the death record that Randy found, regarding Louise > A. HENSON (number 3 above). Randy did not specifically state where number 3 > was the wife of the CRAINs, but I am assuming that he thinks she was. > > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "georgia draves" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > I have followed this discussion but may have missed some of the notes. I > > research the Crain family and that was what drew my attention to these > > messages. > > A couple of years ago I was over at the Crain cemetery and made pictures; > I > > have a picture of a tombstone which is inscribed: Louisa, wife of Squire > > Crain, died Feb. 16, 1855, aged 55 yrs, 1 m, 19 ds > > Is this yet another Louisa. I'm sorry to bother you but I have been > reading > > most of the messages but may have missed one that explained this. georgia > > [email protected] > > > > ps: I have John Benjamin Crain's DAR RW papers which lists all his > children > > and those who settled south of Chester. Also, if any of you are > researching > > Crain's do you know the date of the newspaper (1920's or 30's) which gave > > the history of the Crain's settled in that area (I call them Crain Island > > Crain's) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > > > > Thanks for providing this information. The 1870 census identifies her > as > > > Laura, but you have now provided two records that identify her as > Louise. > > I > > > will note this in my record for her, and I will assume that her name > > > probably really was Louise. She was the daughter of Anderson D. HENSON > and > > > Cynthia Ann WHITSON > > > > > > However, the question still remains as to which Louise HENSON married > the > > > CRAINs. The death record that Randy found indicates that Louise Henson > > > Crains' father was John HENSON, not Anderson D. HENSON. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:57 AM > > > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > > > > > > > LDS Film # 968940 Jackson County, IL Probate 1876--79 > > > > > > > > p. 226 C.A. Henson . . 20 Dec 1877 . . Philip Easterly guardian of > > > Boone > > > > and Jacob Henson and Louisa Henson, minor heirs of Cynthia A. Henson. > . > > . > > > > Boone is 21 years of age now. > > > > > > > > Vol 8 1879--81, p. 68, . . . 26 Nov 1879 . . C.A. Henson . . Philip > > > Easterly > > > > guardian of minor heirs of C.A. Henson deceased . . receipts of Jacob > > and > > > > Louisa Henson for $57.12 each. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > > > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > > > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > > List Guidelines: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I have followed this discussion but may have missed some of the notes. I research the Crain family and that was what drew my attention to these messages. A couple of years ago I was over at the Crain cemetery and made pictures; I have a picture of a tombstone which is inscribed: Louisa, wife of Squire Crain, died Feb. 16, 1855, aged 55 yrs, 1 m, 19 ds Is this yet another Louisa. I'm sorry to bother you but I have been reading most of the messages but may have missed one that explained this. georgia [email protected] ps: I have John Benjamin Crain's DAR RW papers which lists all his children and those who settled south of Chester. Also, if any of you are researching Crain's do you know the date of the newspaper (1920's or 30's) which gave the history of the Crain's settled in that area (I call them Crain Island Crain's) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > Thanks for providing this information. The 1870 census identifies her as > Laura, but you have now provided two records that identify her as Louise. I > will note this in my record for her, and I will assume that her name > probably really was Louise. She was the daughter of Anderson D. HENSON and > Cynthia Ann WHITSON > > However, the question still remains as to which Louise HENSON married the > CRAINs. The death record that Randy found indicates that Louise Henson > Crains' father was John HENSON, not Anderson D. HENSON. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:57 AM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > > > > LDS Film # 968940 Jackson County, IL Probate 1876--79 > > > > p. 226 C.A. Henson . . 20 Dec 1877 . . Philip Easterly guardian of > Boone > > and Jacob Henson and Louisa Henson, minor heirs of Cynthia A. Henson. . . > > Boone is 21 years of age now. > > > > Vol 8 1879--81, p. 68, . . . 26 Nov 1879 . . C.A. Henson . . Philip > Easterly > > guardian of minor heirs of C.A. Henson deceased . . receipts of Jacob and > > Louisa Henson for $57.12 each. > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks for providing this information. The 1870 census identifies her as Laura, but you have now provided two records that identify her as Louise. I will note this in my record for her, and I will assume that her name probably really was Louise. She was the daughter of Anderson D. HENSON and Cynthia Ann WHITSON However, the question still remains as to which Louise HENSON married the CRAINs. The death record that Randy found indicates that Louise Henson Crains' father was John HENSON, not Anderson D. HENSON. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Estate of Cynthia Henson > LDS Film # 968940 Jackson County, IL Probate 1876--79 > > p. 226 C.A. Henson . . 20 Dec 1877 . . Philip Easterly guardian of Boone > and Jacob Henson and Louisa Henson, minor heirs of Cynthia A. Henson. . . > Boone is 21 years of age now. > > Vol 8 1879--81, p. 68, . . . 26 Nov 1879 . . C.A. Henson . . Philip Easterly > guardian of minor heirs of C.A. Henson deceased . . receipts of Jacob and > Louisa Henson for $57.12 each. > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > **PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE UP TO DATE ANTI-VIRUS PROTECTION** > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

LDS Film # 968940 Jackson County, IL Probate 1876--79 p. 226 C.A. Henson . . 20 Dec 1877 . . Philip Easterly guardian of Boone and Jacob Henson and Louisa Henson, minor heirs of Cynthia A. Henson. . . Boone is 21 years of age now. Vol 8 1879--81, p. 68, . . . 26 Nov 1879 . . C.A. Henson . . Philip Easterly guardian of minor heirs of C.A. Henson deceased . . receipts of Jacob and Louisa Henson for $57.12 each.

Randy, I suspect we are talking about different people. The youngest daughter of Anderson D. HENSON and Cynthia Ann WHITSON was named Laura, not Louise, and she was listed as Laura and 8 years old in the Jul 1870 census for Killion Twp. I do not have any records of John A. HENSON or Cynthia THOMPSON, so I cannot verify that they had a daughter named Louisa A., as stated in the Randolph County death records. On the other hand, I have no reason to question the accuracy of the death record. I currently list Louisa C. HENSON, daughter of Benjamin B. HENSON and Louisa WOOLRICK, as the wife of Samuel Jefferson CRAIN and Aubry C. CRAIN. I am wondering if this is correct, in light of your discovery regarding the Randolph County death record for Louisa A. Perhaps I have identified the wrong Louisa HENSON as the spouse of the CRAINs? Does anyone have any information regarding the descendants of John A. HENSON and Cynthia THOMPSON, or their ancestors? Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Crain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Louisa Henson > This is found in "Randolph County Deaths" Louisa A Crain died Feb 9, 1915. > Father John A Henson born in IL, mother Cynthia Thompson born in Il. > > Anyone realy know which is correct? > > Randy Crain > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Louisa Henson > > > > Anderson D. HENSON married Cynthia Ann WHITSON. Their children were Cyrene > > Jane, Boon, Jacob, and Laura. Cynthia is listed as a widow in the Jul 1870 > > census Killion Twp., Jackson, IL family 49. With her are her four > children. > > Her son Boon was named for the close family connection between the WHITSON > > family and the BOON family. Cynthia Ann WHITSON's brother, William Boone > > WHITSON, married Sarah BOON. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Louisa Henson > > > > > > > Peg, > > > > > > Parents of Louise/a Henson are Anderson D. Henson and Cynthia Thompson. > > > Louisa must have been born shortly after 1860 census was taken > (1860--61?) > > > Thompson comes from the marriage license of Louisa Henson to Samuel > Crain. > > > Cynthia Henson has probate records listing her children as Boon, Jacob, > > and > > > Louisa. > > > > > > Others say Cynthia was a Whitson. ? > > > > > > Trying to sort out the Hensons of Jackson County . . . > > > > > > Alice > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will > never help anyone! > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is found in "Randolph County Deaths" Louisa A Crain died Feb 9, 1915. Father John A Henson born in IL, mother Cynthia Thompson born in Il. Anyone realy know which is correct? Randy Crain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Louisa Henson > Anderson D. HENSON married Cynthia Ann WHITSON. Their children were Cyrene > Jane, Boon, Jacob, and Laura. Cynthia is listed as a widow in the Jul 1870 > census Killion Twp., Jackson, IL family 49. With her are her four children. > Her son Boon was named for the close family connection between the WHITSON > family and the BOON family. Cynthia Ann WHITSON's brother, William Boone > WHITSON, married Sarah BOON. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Louisa Henson > > > > Peg, > > > > Parents of Louise/a Henson are Anderson D. Henson and Cynthia Thompson. > > Louisa must have been born shortly after 1860 census was taken (1860--61?) > > Thompson comes from the marriage license of Louisa Henson to Samuel Crain. > > Cynthia Henson has probate records listing her children as Boon, Jacob, > and > > Louisa. > > > > Others say Cynthia was a Whitson. ? > > > > Trying to sort out the Hensons of Jackson County . . . > > > > Alice > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Anderson D. HENSON married Cynthia Ann WHITSON. Their children were Cyrene Jane, Boon, Jacob, and Laura. Cynthia is listed as a widow in the Jul 1870 census Killion Twp., Jackson, IL family 49. With her are her four children. Her son Boon was named for the close family connection between the WHITSON family and the BOON family. Cynthia Ann WHITSON's brother, William Boone WHITSON, married Sarah BOON. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Louisa Henson > Peg, > > Parents of Louise/a Henson are Anderson D. Henson and Cynthia Thompson. > Louisa must have been born shortly after 1860 census was taken (1860--61?) > Thompson comes from the marriage license of Louisa Henson to Samuel Crain. > Cynthia Henson has probate records listing her children as Boon, Jacob, and > Louisa. > > Others say Cynthia was a Whitson. ? > > Trying to sort out the Hensons of Jackson County . . . > > Alice > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Peg, Parents of Louise/a Henson are Anderson D. Henson and Cynthia Thompson. Louisa must have been born shortly after 1860 census was taken (1860--61?) Thompson comes from the marriage license of Louisa Henson to Samuel Crain. Cynthia Henson has probate records listing her children as Boon, Jacob, and Louisa. Others say Cynthia was a Whitson. ? Trying to sort out the Hensons of Jackson County . . . Alice

Alice, Thank you so much for solving my mystery. My two families have just merged! Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Ann Elizabeth HENSON > Mary, > > According to James Henson's probate file, his heirs were: > > wife Mary E., Ellen Callahan, Ann Riseling, Frank Henson, Ollie Will, John > Henson, Ettie Henson, Cynthia Henson and Willis Henson. > > According to Jack Callahan, James Henson had two wives: (1) Julianna Bower > and (2) Mary E. Flood. All children were by Julianna Bower, except Willis. > James married Mary E. Flood in 1872. > > Ann Henson married William Riseling 28 Dec 1879. She signed a receipt in > James' probate file as Elizabeth A. Riseling. Her death cert is filed Anne > E. Riseling 16 Sep 1926. > > Julia Ann Bower Henson Ledbetter died 22 July 1926 with Cynthia Whisler as > informant. > > Trying to sort out the Hensons of Jackson County. > > Alice > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > If you don't know where or when, in Illinois, an event in your ancestor's life might have occurred, you might be able to find a clue in how to search for this information at the Illinois GenWeb Project's - Unknown IL Counties Web Site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilunknow/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I'm looking for any descendants of John Wm. and Mary Ann Randolph of Pope Co. I descend thru their son, Nathaniel Easterly Randolph and Mary Ann Srum Randolph. I would like to compare notes. Jan