Have part of page 80 Jackson Co., IL marriages e-mail me if you want further data: Henry Hodder / Mary McIntire, July 28,1882 George W. Robinson / Mary McIntire,Aug 24,1882 Robert Franklin Greenwell / Victoria Jane Stewart, Aug 22, 1882 James W. Baley / Sarah Ann Hall, July 22, 1882 John Zachariah Guis / Luticia A. Dillinger, July 17, 1882 John Couri or Cowen / Nevada McCann, July 19, 1882 John J. Woklend / Carolina Zollen, Aug 15, 1882 Frank Dunbar / Clary James, Aug 12, 1882 John C. Fisher / Hester Aikin, Aug 16, 1882 [email protected]

Tom, Thanks for calling my attention to this. I knew that John Orrel sounded familiar, but I couldn't figure out where I had heard it. I am checking with my cousin to see if this is the same John Orrel. To answer your first question, the image I received from my cousin actually came from FHL film # 968929, Jackson County, Illinois Marriage register V 1-3, 1878-1915. Vernon Tom Shawcross wrote: > Vernon, > > Thanks for posting the marriage license information. I have two questions: > > 1. Where do you find this information? I assume it is not available online. > > 2. Regarding the marriage of John W. Connel and Luella Orrel, it says her > father was John Orrel. Is he the same John Orrel who married Vedelline > JOUBERT 8 Oct 1881? > > Tom Shawcross >

Here are the rest of the marriages from the page that I have. I hope that this info is useful to someone. Vernon DuBar [email protected] [email protected] Marriage Records -------------------------------- Full Name of Groom: Samuel Morgan Place of Residence: Ridge Township, Illinois Occupation: farmer Age next Birthday: 65 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: Illinois Father's Name: James Morgan Mother's Maiden Name: Rebecca Carey No. of Groom's Marriage: third Full Name of Bride: Preeney Cook Maiden Name, if a Widow: -- Place of Residence: Ridge Township, Illinois Age next Birthday: 55 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: Virginia Father's Name: Adam Steel Mother's Maiden Name: -- No. of Bride's Marriage: third Where and when Married: James Fleming's -- June 24, 1883 Witnesses: James Smith, Franklin Wiseman By whom Certified, Name and Office: M. E. Stephens, MG Date of Return: July 10, 1883 When Registered: -- Full Name of Groom: William Edgar Robertson Place of Residence: Carbondale Occupation: Merchant Age next Birthday: 24 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: Williamson Co., Illinois Father's Name: Elijah S Robertson Mother's Maiden Name: Martha Lawrence No. of Groom's Marriage: first Full Name of Bride: Clara Dorcas White Maiden Name, if a Widow: -- Place of Residence: Carbondale, Illinois Age next Birthday: 19 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: Carbondale, Illinois Father's Name: Daniel White Mother's Maiden Name: Aley Couch No. of Bride's Marriage: first Where and when Married: Carbondale, Illinois -- July 3, 1883 Witnesses: E. S. Robertson By whom Certified, Name and Office: S. E. North, JP Date of Return: 07/23/1883 When Registered: -- Full Name of Groom: John W. Connell Place of Residence: Murphysboro, Illinois Occupation: Shoemaker Age next Birthday: 22 Race or Color: White - Irish Place of Birth: Nashville, Tenn. Father's Name: James Connell Mother's Maiden Name: Rhoda Simons No. of Groom's Marriage: first Full Name of Bride: Luella Orrell Maiden Name, if a Widow: -- Place of Residence: Murphysboro, Illinois Age next Birthday: 15 Race or Color: White - German Place of Birth: DuQuoin, Illinois Father's Name: John Orrell Mother's Maiden Name: Mirah ? Cline No. of Bride's Marriage: first Where and when Married: Bride's Residence -- July 19, 1883 Witnesses: -- By whom Certified, Name and Office: J. J. Prather -- M'boro, Illinois Date of Return: 7/21/1883 When Registered: -- Full Name of Groom: Anderson Blackwood Place of Residence: Murphysboro, Illinois Occupation: farmer Age next Birthday: 23 Race or Color: White - English Place of Birth: Murphysboro Township Father's Name: Richard Blackwood Mother's Maiden Name: Mariah Frailey No. of Groom's Marriage: first Full Name of Bride: Lydia M. Reynolds Maiden Name, if a Widow: -- Place of Residence: Murphysboro Township, Illinois Age next Birthday: 17 Race or Color: White - English Place of Birth: M'boro Township Father's Name: unknown Mother's Maiden Name: Tylar No. of Bride's Marriage: first Where and when Married: M. J. Reynolds -- July 15, 1883 Witnesses: C. C. Cash & J. P. Kee By whom Certified, Name and Office: John Mullinax, MG Date of Return: 7/2?/1883 When Registered: -- Full Name of Groom: William Watson Place of Residence: Somerset Township Occupation: farmer Age next Birthday: 26 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: Richland Co., Illinois Father's Name: Jesse Watson Mother's Maiden Name: Mary Ann Doty No. of Groom's Marriage: -- Full Name of Bride: Elizabeth J. Murphy Maiden Name, if a Widow: -- Place of Residence: Somerset Township Age next Birthday: 26 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: St. Clair Co., Illinois Father's Name: Lewis Murphy Mother's Maiden Name: Elizabeth A. Guy No. of Bride's Marriage: -- Where and when Married: E. G. Lidekays in this Co. -- July 20, 1883 Witnesses: Alfred B. Davis By whom Certified, Name and Office: E. G. Lidekay, J P Date of Return: July 2?, 1883 When Registered: Sept. 28, 1883 Full Name of Groom: John Edmonds Place of Residence: Blairsville, Illinois Occupation: farmer Age next Birthday: 24 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: Franklin Co. Father's Name: William Edmonds Mother's Maiden Name: Sarah Williams No. of Groom's Marriage: first Full Name of Bride: Maggie Ellet Maiden Name, if a Widow: Friedline Place of Residence: DeSoto, Illinois Age next Birthday: 26 Race or Color: White - American Place of Birth: DeSoto Father's Name: Andrew Friedline Mother's Maiden Name: Elizabeth Heiple No. of Bride's Marriage: Second Where and when Married: DeSoto, Illinois -- July 22, 1883 Witnesses: Henry Friedline, Malonia El? By whom Certified, Name and Office: (The rest of the record is cut off.) Date of Return: When Registered: --

As many of you are aware, because of budget problems, the state of Illinois is no longer able to provide death certificates by mail. However, the Illinois State Genealogical Society has established as a fund raiser for the Society and to assist members and researchers who live out of state or do not have access to the Archives facility, a process for obtaining the certificates. For some counties this is cheaper than going to the County Clerk. In other counties it is not. For more information go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilsgs/projects/deathcerts.html Good luck with your search. Karima --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/2003

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 11 May 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #19 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, The Merriam-Webster dictionary says that nostalgia is a wistful or excessively sentimental yearning for the return to or of some past period or irrecoverable condition; And, that memories are, among other things, particular acts of recall or recollections, or images or impressions of one that is remembered, such as fond memories of one's youth. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?? That was one of our favorite discussion topics when we were tired and didn't want to study any more. We would leave our dorm rooms and gather at the local college hangout and "relax". While reading this week, a variant question came to my mind — which came first; the hunt for ancestors or the hunt for their belongings.?? Sometimes it is called antique hunting or shopping, but on my budget it more likely is called "flea- marketing" or "garage sales". Well, it may be "fleaing" to some of us but is has become very fashionable by celebrities. Even fashion designers are "stitching" flea touches to their very pricy clothes. Once while walking a neighborhood "garage sale", I saw a "Skippy" wagon for sale. I had one when I was but a tad of a lad. In fact, it still hangs by its handle out in my garage. Even in the terrible shape that it is in, I can't yet bear to give it up. It has traveled everywhere with me; Dad was a US Marine, so that includes overseas. My Grandpa made an extension for the handle so it fit my tall frame when I was in my early teens growing spurt. I pulled ice in it in Bermuda and groceries in North Carolina. In addition, our boys rode in it when their mother went to the milk store or the A&P Grocery. When visiting my maternal Grandmother, my sister and cousins often headed straight for the cookie jar sitting in the pass-through window sill in the kitchen for a flour coated "sugar cookie". That cookie jar was the shape of a broad kindly smiling monk holding up two fingers. Across his robe were the words "Thou Shalt Not Steal". I have that cookie jar setting on my bureau. It can't be used for holding cookies any more because water seeped past the glaze into the bisque. Once while we were visiting our Father, my sister and I were visiting shops in Capistrano, and I discovered another of those Red Wing cookie jars and my sister bought it. She paid ten or less dollars for it. Recently I found another one in "collectibles" establishment in the mid-west. It was chipped around the edges and they want sixty dollars for it. <sigh> It's now a collectable. My paternal Grandmother once gave me a cow's horn that she used to blow when she wanted to call Grandpa in from the fields for meals. The horn is old and dry and I'm afraid to blow it very hard any more for fear of splitting it. But, hanging there on the wall, it reminds me of the many stories that she would tell of her earlier life. For instance, when she and Grandpa were first married, they lived with Grandpa's Uncle Monroe. Grandpa farmed the land and Grandma took care of the house and cooking. Uncle Monroe liked his daily ‘cornpone'; warm for breakfast and cold for the other two meals. Uncle Monroe must have had a "grand" house according to Grandma. The wooden floors were bleached clean by a method sailors call "holystoning". <http://www.bb62museum.org/images/Hart/holystoning.html> Grandma said she did it on her knees. Robert Watson recorded in his Civil War Diary the often "holystoning of spar decks". Dad was stationed in Bermuda once and we moved there to be with him. He often served as Sergeant of the Guard on Military Police Duty. He was friendly with the local Crown Police and he obtained a night stick from them. He used to "flip" it expertly and taught me how. Dad passed that night stick to me and when I see it hanging on my study wall many memories of him, Mom and Bermuda come rushing back to me. We have a kerosene wick lamp or two around. We don't use them very often. They are messy. I didn't like to clean them as a boy and I still don't like to clean them. For the twenty five years I spent with the Boy Scouts of America and summer camps, we used lanterns which needed cleaning. The boys never seemed to get the hang of not blackening the glass. <grin> I remember the use of lanterns in the old freight train switching yards across from our house. The sound of the puffing of the steam locomotives and the sound of the cars crashing together was music to lull me to sleep at night. The whistle was music, not like the blast of a diesel horn today. "Every" boy had a Lionel Electric Train! Well, I can't pass by any display of "wanna-bee" engineers. I had one. I had enough track to make a figure-8. My cousin has a model train display to envy. If it was made he had it. Water towers, stations, houses, multiple transformers and what seemed miles of track. As I remember he even had different gage tracks. It filled a large part of his basement. Sigh, I guess we moved around the country and world too much to pack a model train around. <biggrin> So, model trains remind me of living near a switchyard, traveling on trains, and the good times I had with my cousin. He turned out to be the closest thing I had to a brother. There is a tin soap container on my workbench. It contained the what was left of the pictures that almost survived a house fire we had when I was about six years old. Mom treated those pictures as if they were gold. I am in the process of digitizing them and some reconstruction or restoration work. These and other things that have belonged to my families can't talk for themselves. So, I have written as much of their stories as I can and am storing them with the objects. I don't know if anyone of the family will want them, but if they do they will know their stories from my side of the picture. This last week has not been the best for many families of my acquaintance and distant kin. The storms have been violent and some of them lost so much. All my friends and relatives have checked in and are doing fine. However, there seems to be a lot of "clean-up" in some places. Guess the graveyard restoration attempt will have to wait a bit longer. I hope all your friends and family are as well as mine. Plus, Happy Mother's Day to all Mother's and to those who come from Mother's. Remember that they, our Mother's, spent much time rocking us when we were very young. Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

The following was transcribed from just one (1) sheet of the Jackson County, IL Register of Marriages - 1881-1882. It appears that all of these were entered into the Register on May 4, 1882. I have done my best with these transcriptions, but the handwriting is very difficult to read. NOTE: This is the only page I have of this register and I have no additional information on these marriages than what is listed here. ~ Karima ***************************************************************** Full name of Groom: Richard H. BROWN Place of Residence: Carbondale, IL Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 27 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Illinois Father's Name: Benj. Brown Mother's Maiden Name: Dicans Rien [?] No. of Groom's Marriage: 1st Full name of Bride: Cerilda C. PLEASANT Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Desoto, IL Age next Birthday: 24 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Tenn Father's Name: O.D. Pleasant Mother's Maiden Name: Rebecca Yonts No. of Bride's Marriage: -- Where and when Married: Desoto, IL , January 29, 1882 Witnesses: ----- By whom Certified, Name and Office: S. J. Kelley, MG Date of Return: Feb. 2, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ============================================ Full name of Groom: Louis SCHOENBERG Place of Residence: Bradley Township [Jackson Co., IL] Occupation: --- Age next Birthday: 26 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Randolph Co., IL Father's Name: Henry [?] - illegible, but not written as Schoenberg Mother's Maiden Name: Abikil [?] No. of Groom's Marriage: 1 Full name of Bride: Anna BLASS Maiden Name if Widow: --- Place of Residence: --- Age next Birthday: --- Race or Color: --- Place of Birth: --- Father's Name: --- Mother's Maiden Name: --- No. of Bride's Marriage: --- Where and when Married: --- Witnesses: --- By whom Certified, Name and Office: --- Date of Return: --- When Registered: --- ============================================ Full name of Groom: James M. ROBERTSON Place of Residence: Carbondale, IL Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 27 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: IL Father's Name: D. C. Robertson Mother's Maiden Name: Sarah Brownlow No. of Groom's Marriage: 2 Full name of Bride: Sarah HALL Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Murphysboro Age next Birthday: 24 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Williamson Co., IL Father's Name: C. W. HALL Mother's Maiden Name: M. C. Brown No. of Bride's Marriage: 2 Where and when Married: Mr. Edward's, January 7, 1882 Witnesses: Mr. Edwards and Mr. Zoller By whom Certified, Name and Office: F. Earnheart, MG Date of Return: Feb. 3, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ============================================ Full name of Groom: Alonzo TEMPLE Place of Residence: Murphysboro Occupation: Livery Man Age next Birthday: 26 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Jackson Co., IL Father's Name: Philip Temple Mother's Maiden Name: Catherine Moore No. of Groom's Marriage: 1st Full name of Bride: Fannie C. CLARK Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Murphysboro, IL Age next Birthday: 21 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Shelby Co., Alabama Father's Name: Charles Clark Mother's Maiden Name: Susan J. Weaver [?] No. of Bride's Marriage: 1st Where and when Married: Thos Belches, January 29, 1882 Witnesses: Thos Belch and By whom Certified, Name and Office: L.. Earnheart, MG Date of Return: Feb. 3, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1881 ============================================ Full name of Groom: William UNDERWOOD Place of Residence: Murphysboro Occupation: Miner Age next Birthday: 29 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Saline County, IL Father's Name: James Underwood Mother's Maiden Name: Jane Caton No. of Groom's Marriage: 1st Full name of Bride: Priscilla J. SNIDER Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Murphysboro Age next Birthday: 22 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Jefferson Co., IL Father's Name: James Snider Mother's Maiden Name: Eliza L. Murphy No. of Bride's Marriage: 1st Where and when Married: Feb 4, 1882 Witnesses: E. W. Prestley By whom Certified, Name and Office: W. J. [?] Date of Return: Feb 4, 1882 When Registered: May 1882 ============================================ Full name of Groom: Thomas Brown Place of Residence: Carbondale Occupation: Rail Roading Age next Birthday: 24 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Tenn. Father's Name: Thomas Brown Mother's Maiden Name: Sophie Fairfield No. of Groom's Marriage: 1 st Full name of Bride: Sarah M. BOREN Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Carbondale, IL Age next Birthday: 21 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Williamson Co., IL Father's Name: Alfred Boren Mother's Maiden Name: M. A. Boucher No. of Bride's Marriage: 1st Where and when Married: January 11, 1882 Witnesses: L. A. Walker By whom Certified, Name and Office: ----- Date of Return: ---- When Registered: ---- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Tom, Thanks for the info! Vernon "Tom Shawcross" wrote: Vernon, The J.P. who certified the marriage was Philip EASTERLY, 1815-1897. I suspect the bride Celia MEYER was the Salenia MAYR listed in the June 1880 census: Census Place: Ora, Jackson, Illinois Source: FHL Film 1254214 National Archives Film T9-0214 Page 29B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Joseph RINBOLD Self M M W 56 FRANCE Occ: Farmer Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Delphine RINBOLD Wife F M W 39 FRANCE Occ: Keeping House Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Athusc RINBOLD Son M S W 22 IL Occ: At Home Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Armisc RINBOLD Son M S W 19 IL Occ: At Home Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Salenia MAYR Other F S W 15 IL Occ: At Home Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Tom Shawcross

Vernon, The J.P. who certified the marriage was Philip EASTERLY, 1815-1897. I suspect the bride Celia MEYER was the Salenia MAYR listed in the June 1880 census: Census Place: Ora, Jackson, Illinois Source: FHL Film 1254214 National Archives Film T9-0214 Page 29B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Joseph RINBOLD Self M M W 56 FRANCE Occ: Farmer Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Delphine RINBOLD Wife F M W 39 FRANCE Occ: Keeping House Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Athusc RINBOLD Son M S W 22 IL Occ: At Home Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Armisc RINBOLD Son M S W 19 IL Occ: At Home Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Salenia MAYR Other F S W 15 IL Occ: At Home Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernon DuBar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Jackson County marriage > I have a marriage register page that I would like to share with the > list. I am researching the JOUBERT (JUBERT) family and Frank Jubert is > a great uncle of mine. I will share the rest of the marriages on the > page in another email. > > Full Name of Groom: Frank Jubert > Place of Residence: Ora, Jackson Co. Illinois > Occupation: Farmer > Age next Birthday: 30 > Race or Color: White > Place of Birth: French - Kannedy (Canada) > Father's Name: Moses Jubert > Mother's Maiden Name: -- > No. of Groom's Marriage: first > Full Name of Bride: Celia Jubart > Maiden Name, if a Widow: -- > Place of Residence: Ora, Jackson Co. Illinois > Age next Birthday: 19 > Race or Color: White > Place of Birth: French - Kannedy (Canada) > Father's Name: Nicholas Meyer > Mother's Maiden Name: Meyer > No. of Bride's Marriage: first > Where and when Married: Frank Jubert's -- June 23, 1883 > Witnesses: Moses Jubert Sarah Jubert > By whom Certified, Name and Office: Plu?. Easterly, JP > Date of Return: 07/10/1883 > When Registered: -- > > > Vernon DuBar > [email protected] > [email protected] > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have a marriage register page that I would like to share with the list. I am researching the JOUBERT (JUBERT) family and Frank Jubert is a great uncle of mine. I will share the rest of the marriages on the page in another email. Full Name of Groom: Frank Jubert Place of Residence: Ora, Jackson Co. Illinois Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 30 Race or Color: White Place of Birth: French - Kannedy (Canada) Father's Name: Moses Jubert Mother's Maiden Name: -- No. of Groom's Marriage: first Full Name of Bride: Celia Jubart Maiden Name, if a Widow: -- Place of Residence: Ora, Jackson Co. Illinois Age next Birthday: 19 Race or Color: White Place of Birth: French - Kannedy (Canada) Father's Name: Nicholas Meyer Mother's Maiden Name: Meyer No. of Bride's Marriage: first Where and when Married: Frank Jubert's -- June 23, 1883 Witnesses: Moses Jubert Sarah Jubert By whom Certified, Name and Office: Plu?. Easterly, JP Date of Return: 07/10/1883 When Registered: -- Vernon DuBar [email protected] [email protected]

Good Evening, Thanks to Mary Palser, who went out surfing, here is a site to view the John Davis Memorial mentioned in last night's heritage article: http://abyss.kgs.ku.edu/pls/abyss/pubcat.phd1.SelectPhotosCounty?f_cnty=13 Bill Oliver -=-

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois Bill Oliver 4 May 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #17 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, As a retired educator, reading is a passion, as is learning something new. Recently, I've been reading about all the latest and greatest in digital picture printing. This led me into website authoring with lots of bells and whistles. The next step was to read about accessibility on the World Wide Web. To my woe, I like so many other webmeisters, have become so wrapped up in the appearance of the sites that we have lost sight of the purpose we genealogists and historians started with in the days before the general use of the WWW. The TV programs CSI, CSI Miami, plus the newest spin off of JAG, all talk about crime solving via the latest and greatest ... technology. Wow, what a budget the Los Vegas Crime Lab must have. :) The original purpose was to make data available to researchers. And, the purpose of these articles is heritage ... the history of our families and the heritage that they brought with them. So, I guess it would be best to get back to that purpose. Today, we are wrapped up with the increase in crime solving through modern forensics. Modern forensics with the latest and greatest. Where the single strand of fiber analyzed in the latest high tech laboratory proves to determine who-done-it. Genealogists, family historians, and anthropologists are now very interested in the forensics of what bones can teach us. Skeleton bones are jigsaw puzzles. The bones can tell us someone's age, sex, race, height, and their dominant handedness — left or right. However, we seldom, if every, actually get to read our ancestral bones. So, we have to just dream about what the bones could tell us about our ancestors. We have to still use good old Sherlock Holmes techniques of deduction to put the flesh back on our ancestors bones. One place we can use to teach us are the grave sites. The soul of the ancestor is there. As our European ancestors spread out from the east coast across the continent, traditions of burial and memorializing spread with them and adapted to the new conditions. As they traveled families left behind family members, and subsequently the left a fragment of ritual or artifact to ease the feelings of vulnerability in this enormously large and undeveloped land. The loss of a loved one magnified the feelings of the new and strange, thus to relieve this, they would fall back on the familiar and comfortable. This often meant old world monuments displayed in and across the heartland of America. Our cemeteries are full of religious imagery. The Lutheran austere markers, the very passionate Hispanic folk art. There are stern verses of scripture on limestone tablets versus the free spirited phrases depicting character, such as "World's greatest truck driver" or "I'd rather be drag racing". City metropolis cemeteries usually display the more ornate monuments adorned with surrogate mourners gazing shyward toward the heavens. Wealth usually played a definite part in just how ornate. While on the treeless prairies along the Oregon Trail, migrating families did their best with the limestone found locally, yet still reflected the rudeness of migratory burials. Materials for monuments have varied with locations and times. Limestone was the most common stone in pioneer days. Marble was used in the late 19th century. Wood and sometimes wrought iron were used when stone was too costly. Scandinavians and Germans fashioned wrought iron crosses. My Swiss-German ancestors are so marked in Nebraska. Sandstone and slate were used in areas where available. The durability of granite was difficult in early days to allowed for only low relief motifs and lettering. Concrete found its way into the list of materials because it could be shaped and decorated nearly at the will of the artist. Mosaics could be made by placing items such as telephone insulators, marbles and even seashells.. Cast iron markers mounted on decorative bases can mark where French or Bavarian folk predominate. Swedish crosses sometimes have artifacts in the form of hearts or geometric shapes decorating them. In Lincoln, Nebraska airplane propellers were used to mark graves. Though cemeteries today are often quite level, early cemeteries were on hills and otherwise land difficult to farm. Throughout the heartland, cemeteries accompany churches, thereby separating ethnic and religious groups. Further segregation was fostered by fraternal organizations such as the Odd Fellows, the Masons, the Elks, and the Rebekah Lodge. A type of monument insurance company called the International Order of Woodmen of the World furnished monuments in the form of sawed wood or tree stumps or even stacks of wood, dot heartland cemeteries. In fact simulated wood motif markers became so popular that they don't always now indicate the Woodmen group. J Sterling Morton, father of Arbor Day and his family have tall tree trunk monuments and horizontal logs in Nebraska City, Nebraska. Out in Hiawatha, Kansas is the Davis Memorial, which is quite unusual. It is a collection of life sized likenesses of the John and Sarah Davis, with several statues depicting various ages of the couple. Carved in Italy, it is estimated that it cost a half million dollars and took the decade of the 1930s to complete. It is further said that John Davis spent this sum of money for the memorial to prevent Sarah's relatives from inheriting his money. The story continues to say that Sarah's family thought she could do better than John Davis. The union was childless. Some of the figures have been damaged by vandals, but there are photographs available to show the record. Even one of the statues of John Davis had a thigh high vertical log behind his left leg. And, the final set of carvings has Mr Davis sitting in a chair and beside him is an empty stone chair with carved letters .... "The Vacant Chair". Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://www.rense.com/general32/cxcol.htm http://www.earthsky.com/BBS/Observers-Notebook/19x18.html http://www.earthsky.com/BBS/Observers-Notebook/19x104.html http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

As I said before, what I am sending to the list are the transcriptions of a copy of one (1) page I have of the Marriage Register. I don't have the entire register. Sorry, Karima > Would you check 22 Aug 1882 for marriage of Robert Franklin Greenwell to > Victoria Jane Stuart in Jackson Co., IL? Is there in info about their > parents in the application? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003

Hi, Would you check 22 Aug 1882 for marriage of Robert Franklin Greenwell to Victoria Jane Stuart in Jackson Co., IL? Is there in info about their parents in the application? Thank you, Jeannet

Marriage records listed below: Charles T. COLLINS -- Amelia (STEARNS) BALL William TAYLOR -- Mary G. WAGNER Joseph A. DRURY -- Cornelia A. JONES James MCFADDEN -- Anna STARNES James H. SHEPHERD -- Florence J. MAPLES Allen D. GRAMMER -- Florence E. JONES H. Wilhelm LANGE -- Anna BRANDT SOURCE: Jackson County, IL Register of Marriages - 1881-1882 [Note: These are transcribed from just one sheet of the register for the year. It appears that all of these were entered into the Register on May 4, 1882. I have done my best with these transcriptions, but the handwriting is very difficult to read.] ~ Transcribed by Karima 2003 ========================================= Full name of Groom: Charles T. COLLINS Place of Residence: Washington co., Ind Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 23 Race or Color: White Place of Birth: Washington Co., Ind. Father's Name: Isaac Mother's Maiden Name: GRAHAM No. of Groom's Marriage: 1st Full name of Bride: Amelia BALL Maiden Name if Widow: STEARNS Place of Residence: Jackson Co., IL Age next Birthday: 37 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: German Father's Name: John Mother's Maiden Name: GEPHEY No. of Bride's Marriage: 3rd Where and when Married: Mrs. A. Balls, Jan 24, 1882 Witnesses: Ann Waller and Frank Burke By whom Certified, Name and Office: M. House, MG Date of Return: Jan 27, 1982 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ========================================= Full name of Groom: William TAYLOR Place of Residence: Franklin Co., IL Occupation: Farming Age next Birthday: 30 Race or Color: Anglo-Saxon Place of Birth: Miss Father's Name: Heford Taylor Mother's Maiden Name: Olive Taylor No. of Groom's Marriage: 1st Full name of Bride: Mary G. WAGNER Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Jackson Co., IL Age next Birthday: 23 Race or Color: Anglo Saxon Place of Birth: Ky Father's Name: William Dunken Mother's Maiden Name: Elizabeth Wagner No. of Bride's Marriage: 1st Where and when Married: Jan 3, 1882 Witnesses: L. Deason & W. Mag---- [?] By whom Certified, Name and Office: Thomas Williams Date of Return: Jan 23, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ========================================= Full name of Groom: Joseph A. DRURY Place of Residence: Jackson Co., IL Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 22 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: McCoupin Co, IL Father's Name: J. E. Drury Mother's Maiden Name: Ann Connaly No. of Groom's Marriage: 1st Full name of Bride: Cornelia A. JONES Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Jackson Co., IL Age next Birthday: 16 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Jackson Co, IL Father's Name: F. Jones Mother's Maiden Name: Margaret Lindsey [?] No. of Bride's Marriage: 1st Where and when Married: December 25, 1881 Witnesses: J.& E. Drury By whom Certified, Name and Office: G. S. Pomeroy Date of Return: Jan 23, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ========================================= Full name of Groom: James MCFADDEN Place of Residence: Carbondale [Jackson Co., IL] Occupation: Collier Age next Birthday: 23 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: State of Tenn Father's Name: David McFadden Mother's Maiden Name: S. J. Watts No. of Groom's Marriage: 1st Full name of Bride: Anna STARNES Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Carbondale [Jackson Co., IL] Age next Birthday: 19 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Illinois Father's Name: Starnes Mother's Maiden Name: Phebe Saylor No. of Bride's Marriage: 1st Where and when Married: Carbondale [IL], January 16, 1882 Witnesses: Miss Starns & W. Campbell By whom Certified, Name and Office: E. J. Palmer Date of Return: January 24, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ========================================= Full name of Groom: James H. SHEPHERD Place of Residence: Union Co. [Illinois] Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 38 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Tenn Father's Name: James Shepherd Mother's Maiden Name: Jane Heplin [?] No. of Groom's Marriage: 2 Full name of Bride: Florence J. MAPLES Maiden Name if Widow: Johnson Place of Residence: Makanda, IL Age next Birthday: 28 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Iowa Father's Name: Ruben J. Johnson Mother's Maiden Name: Jane Leweling No. of Bride's Marriage: 2 Where and when Married: January 26, 1882, Makanda [Jackson Co. IL] Witnesses: R. J. Johnson & Mary Maples By whom Certified, Name and Office: Izri Hagler, JP Date of Return: Jan 28, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ========================================= Full name of Groom: Allen D. GRAMMER -- NOTE: (my ancestors) Place of Residence: Ridge [Township] Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 22 Race or Color: Dutch Place of Birth: Makanda Township Father's Name: J. W. Grammer Mother's Maiden Name: Tabitha J. Hagler No. of Groom's Marriage: 1 Full name of Bride: Florence E. JONES Maiden Name if Widow: -- Place of Residence: Ridge Township Age next Birthday: 24 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Jackson Co., IL Father's Name: Edward Jones Mother's Maiden Name: Margaret Gephart No. of Bride's Marriage: 1 Where and when Married: January 5, 1882 Witnesses: Wm Rushing and J. Lipe By whom Certified, Name and Office: _____ Phelps, MG. Date of Return: Feb 2, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ========================================= Full name of Groom: H. Wilhelm LANGE Place of Residence: C Hill, Jackson, Co., IL Occupation: Farmer Age next Birthday: 48 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Germany Father's Name: Wilhelm Lange Mother's Maiden Name: Maria Alms No. of Groom's Marriage: 2 Full name of Bride: Anna BRANDT Maiden Name if Widow: Irebeln [?] Place of Residence: C Hill, Illinois Age next Birthday: 43 Race or Color: white Place of Birth: Holstein Father's Name: Jacob A. [?] Mother's Maiden Name: Johanna Hoeber No. of Bride's Marriage: 2 Where and when Married: Feb 1, 1882 Witnesses: Caroline Erdman By whom Certified, Name and Office: G. Erdman, MG Date of Return: Feb 2, 1882 When Registered: May 4, 1882 ========================================= ~ It is all one big circular puzzle and we all have pieces of the puzzle. 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Karima, Thanks for posting these marriage transcripions. Often, you are providing the missing piece of information that I have been seeking. For example, the record for: Edward GORDON -- Josie STOFFLE I knew from the Brenda Lee Garver books that Josie had married a GORDON and that she was living in St. Louis in 1906 and in Hartford, CT in 1934, but I did not know the name of her husband. With the clue of his first name, I was able to locate them in the 1910 census for St. Louis, and I discovered they had a daughter Hazel, b. abt 1898. Josie was listed as Amanda J. GORDON (her maiden name was Amanda Josephine STOFFEL), and Edward was listed as Edward B. GORDON. Amanda Josephine STOFFEL was the daughter of Peter STOFFEL, Jr. and Harriet C. BRADLEY. It is interesting to note how some of the spellings of the surnames differs from other records. For example, STOFFEL vs. STOFFEL. I suspect this was due partly to a laxity in spelling and in other cases to the difficulty in deciphering the old hand-written records. For example, the record for: Parker L. GORDON -- Emma V. HALL About half of the records I see for Parker list him as Parker I. GORDON and the other half as Parker L. GORDON. It seems the script "I" looked very much like the script "L." Another common source of confusion was the script "S" vs. the script "L" which looked so very much alike and have led to many mistranscriptions, such as Lara for Sara, etc. Parker I. or L. GORDON was the son of Rebecca YOUNG and Rev. Harry Smith GORDON (familiarly known as "Uncle Henry" in his later years, he started the Looney Springs Baptist Church). The marriage to Emma was Parker's second marriage. Emma died 11 Aug 1886 and was buried at Looney Springs cemetery. Parker's third marriage was to Rebecca Jane WEEDON. Their adopted daughter Nora married Homer BARTLETT. One final comment regarding the marriage of: Granvill GRAFF -- Lydia Jane REDFIELD This was the first marriage for Granville GRAFF, son of Jacob GRAFF and Mary Elizabeth LEVAN. Lydia Jane REDFIELD, daughter of Benjamin Roswell REDFIELD and Elizabeth Jane CHEATHAM, died 18 Jun 1886 and was buried at Looney Springs cemetery. On 29 Sep 1887 Granville GRAFF married Margaret Ann REIMAN, daughter of William A. REIMAN and Lucretia Elizabeth COOPER. Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karima" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 11:35 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] More - Various Jackson Co., IL Marriages 1883 & 1884 > Good Evening, > > Below is information taken from Jackson County, Illinois "Marriage > Register." [photo copy]. > > Please note: this is the best transcription I have been able to make. It > is apparent that some of the names are misspelled. In some cases there are > words crossed out and/or written over. ~ Transcribed by Karima 2003 > > > List of Marriages: > > Joseph GOLEY -- Lillie WILLIAMS > Parker L. GORDON -- Emma V. HALL > S. B. GURLEY -- Katie WINN > John GLENN -- Martha H. FOSTER > Dan P. GRIFFIN -- Louisa P. GODAIR > Nick GURNOW -- Mary MOORE > William GOOD -- Elizabeth R. FARRAR > Edward GORDON -- Josie STOFFLE > Willis GALE -- Amanda YATES > Granvill GRAFF -- Lydia Jane REDFIELD > Franklin GRAFF -- Eliza J. JARRETT > William L. GEARHART -- Syntha A. CRIPPS > Patrick GILLOOLY -- Katie _____ > William H. GREGSON -- Fredricka LIOSLEY > Michael GALLIGAN -- Sarah SMITH > H. A. GWIN -- Mary B. KILPATRICK > John GURLEY -- Jennie FERRILL > W. L. GASKIN -- Mary TISSELL > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Date of License: 11 Feb 1883 > Name of Man: Joseph GOLEY > Age: 22 > Name of Woman: Lillie WILLIAMS > Age: Feb 11 1883 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 11 Feb, 1883 > By Whom Certified: William C., ANDERSON, JP > When Recorded: 13 Feb 1883 > > > Date of License: 19 March 1883 > Name of Man: Parker L. GORDON > Age: 31 > Name of Woman: Emma V. HALL > Age: 26 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 21 March 1883 > By Whom Certified: J. W. PHELPS, MG > When Recorded: March 23, 1883 > > > Date of License: 15 June 1883 > Name of Man: S. B. GURLEY > Age: 23 > Name of Woman: Katie WINN > Age: 18 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: 15 June 1883 > By Whom Certified: Igri HAGLER. JP > When Recorded: 13 June 1883 > > > Date of License: 19 May 1983 > Name of Man: John GLENN > Age: 21 > Name of Woman: Martha H. FOSTER > Age: 15 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 19 May 1883 > By Whom Certified: Geo. Kennedy, JP > When Recorded: 21 May 1883 > > > Date of License: 7 July 1883 > Name of Man: Dan P. GRIFFIN > Age: 21 > Name of Woman: Louisa P. GODAIR > Age: 18 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 11 July 1883 > By Whom Certified: F. F. HOUTS, MG > When Recorded: July 16, 1883 > > > Date of License: 9 Aug 1883 > Name of Man: Nick GURNOW > Age: 21 > Name of Woman: Mary MOORE > Age: 18 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 9 Aug 1883 > By Whom Certified: J. J. PRATHER, MG > When Recorded: 13 Aug 1883 > > > Date of License: 11 Aug 1883 > Name of Man: William GOOD > Age: 21 > Name of Woman: Elizabeth R. FARRAR > Age: 17 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: Mother > When Married: Aug 12, 1883 > By Whom Certified: J. V. BROWM, JP > When Recorded: Aug 16, 1883 > > > Date of License: 13 Aug 1883 > Name of Man: Edward GORDON > Age: 21 > Name of Woman: Josie STOFFLE > Age: 17 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: Aug 16 > By Whom Certified: J. J. PRATHER, MG. > When Recorded: Sep 16, 1883 > > > Date of License: 6 October 1883 > Name of Man: Willis GALE > Age: 20 > Name of Woman: Amanda YATES > Age: 18 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: Mother > When Married: 7 Oct 1883 > By Whom Certified: W. A. CROSS, PM > When Recorded: Oct 15, 1883 > > > Date of License: 13 Nov 1883 > Name of Man: Granvill GRAFF > Age: 25 > Name of Woman: Lydia Jane REDFIELD > Age: 23 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 15 November 1883 > By Whom Certified: G. A. GORDON, M G > When Recorded: Nov 16, 1883 > > > Date of License: Nov 27 1883 > Name of Man: Franklin GRAFF > Age: 34 > Name of Woman: Eliza J. JARRETT > Age: 21 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: Nov 29, 1883 > By Whom Certified: G. D. GROSS, MG > When Recorded: Dec 5, 1883 > > > Date of License: November 21, 1883 > Name of Man: William L. GEARHART > Age: 26 > Name of Woman: Syntha A. CRIPPS > Age: 24 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: Nov 22, 1883 > By Whom Certified: Arthur M. Lee, MG > When Recorded: 28 Dec. 1883 > > > Date of License: 7 Jan 1884 > Name of Man: Patrick GILLOOLY > Age: 23 > Name of Woman: Katie > Age: 18 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: Jan 5, 1884 - note this date and the date of license appear > to be possibly reversed? Not sure, but this way it looks as though the > license was gotten after the marrige. > By Whom Certified: Frederick BERGMAN > When Recorded: 22 Jan 1884 > > > Date of License: Feb _, 1884 > Name of Man: William H. GREGSON > Age: 30 > Name of Woman: Fredricka LIOSLEY [?] > Age: 21 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: March 1, 1884 > By Whom Certified: W. G. WAGNER, MG > When Recorded: March 6, 1884 > > > Date of License: 1 April 1884 > Name of Man: Michael GALLIGAN > Age: 23 > Name of Woman: Sarah SMITH > Age: 18 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: 3 April 1884 > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: ----- > By Whom Certified: W. C. WILSON, JP > When Recorded: April [?] > > > Date of License: 8 April 1884 > Name of Man: H. A. GWIN > Age: 22 > Name of Woman: Mary B. KILPATRICK > Age: 22 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: April 10, 1884 > By Whom Certified: G. A. GORDON, MG > When Recorded: [?] > > > Date of License: May 7, 1884 > Name of Man: John GURLEY > Age: 26 > Name of Woman: Jennie FERRILL > Age: 23 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: May 11, 1884 > By Whom Certified: J. H. MCGRAFF, MG > When Recorded: [?] > > > Date of License: [?] > Name of Man: W. L. Gaskin > Age: 23 > Name of Woman: Mary TISSELL > Age: 23 or 28 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: May 18, 1884 > By Whom Certified: Wm. BRIGTON, MG > When Recorded: [?] > > > > Hope these help someone ~ > > ~ It is all one big circular puzzle and we all have pieces of the puzzle. > The miracle happens when we are able to find the person to whom a piece > belongs. ~ Karima > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003 > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Good Evening, Below is information taken from Jackson County, Illinois "Marriage Register." [photo copy]. Please note: this is the best transcription I have been able to make. It is apparent that some of the names are misspelled. In some cases there are words crossed out and/or written over. ~ Transcribed by Karima 2003 List of Marriages: Joseph GOLEY -- Lillie WILLIAMS Parker L. GORDON -- Emma V. HALL S. B. GURLEY -- Katie WINN John GLENN -- Martha H. FOSTER Dan P. GRIFFIN -- Louisa P. GODAIR Nick GURNOW -- Mary MOORE William GOOD -- Elizabeth R. FARRAR Edward GORDON -- Josie STOFFLE Willis GALE -- Amanda YATES Granvill GRAFF -- Lydia Jane REDFIELD Franklin GRAFF -- Eliza J. JARRETT William L. GEARHART -- Syntha A. CRIPPS Patrick GILLOOLY -- Katie _____ William H. GREGSON -- Fredricka LIOSLEY Michael GALLIGAN -- Sarah SMITH H. A. GWIN -- Mary B. KILPATRICK John GURLEY -- Jennie FERRILL W. L. GASKIN -- Mary TISSELL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date of License: 11 Feb 1883 Name of Man: Joseph GOLEY Age: 22 Name of Woman: Lillie WILLIAMS Age: Feb 11 1883 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 11 Feb, 1883 By Whom Certified: William C., ANDERSON, JP When Recorded: 13 Feb 1883 Date of License: 19 March 1883 Name of Man: Parker L. GORDON Age: 31 Name of Woman: Emma V. HALL Age: 26 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 21 March 1883 By Whom Certified: J. W. PHELPS, MG When Recorded: March 23, 1883 Date of License: 15 June 1883 Name of Man: S. B. GURLEY Age: 23 Name of Woman: Katie WINN Age: 18 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: 15 June 1883 By Whom Certified: Igri HAGLER. JP When Recorded: 13 June 1883 Date of License: 19 May 1983 Name of Man: John GLENN Age: 21 Name of Woman: Martha H. FOSTER Age: 15 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 19 May 1883 By Whom Certified: Geo. Kennedy, JP When Recorded: 21 May 1883 Date of License: 7 July 1883 Name of Man: Dan P. GRIFFIN Age: 21 Name of Woman: Louisa P. GODAIR Age: 18 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 11 July 1883 By Whom Certified: F. F. HOUTS, MG When Recorded: July 16, 1883 Date of License: 9 Aug 1883 Name of Man: Nick GURNOW Age: 21 Name of Woman: Mary MOORE Age: 18 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 9 Aug 1883 By Whom Certified: J. J. PRATHER, MG When Recorded: 13 Aug 1883 Date of License: 11 Aug 1883 Name of Man: William GOOD Age: 21 Name of Woman: Elizabeth R. FARRAR Age: 17 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: Mother When Married: Aug 12, 1883 By Whom Certified: J. V. BROWM, JP When Recorded: Aug 16, 1883 Date of License: 13 Aug 1883 Name of Man: Edward GORDON Age: 21 Name of Woman: Josie STOFFLE Age: 17 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: Aug 16 By Whom Certified: J. J. PRATHER, MG. When Recorded: Sep 16, 1883 Date of License: 6 October 1883 Name of Man: Willis GALE Age: 20 Name of Woman: Amanda YATES Age: 18 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: Mother When Married: 7 Oct 1883 By Whom Certified: W. A. CROSS, PM When Recorded: Oct 15, 1883 Date of License: 13 Nov 1883 Name of Man: Granvill GRAFF Age: 25 Name of Woman: Lydia Jane REDFIELD Age: 23 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 15 November 1883 By Whom Certified: G. A. GORDON, M G When Recorded: Nov 16, 1883 Date of License: Nov 27 1883 Name of Man: Franklin GRAFF Age: 34 Name of Woman: Eliza J. JARRETT Age: 21 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: Nov 29, 1883 By Whom Certified: G. D. GROSS, MG When Recorded: Dec 5, 1883 Date of License: November 21, 1883 Name of Man: William L. GEARHART Age: 26 Name of Woman: Syntha A. CRIPPS Age: 24 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: Nov 22, 1883 By Whom Certified: Arthur M. Lee, MG When Recorded: 28 Dec. 1883 Date of License: 7 Jan 1884 Name of Man: Patrick GILLOOLY Age: 23 Name of Woman: Katie Age: 18 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: Jan 5, 1884 - note this date and the date of license appear to be possibly reversed? Not sure, but this way it looks as though the license was gotten after the marrige. By Whom Certified: Frederick BERGMAN When Recorded: 22 Jan 1884 Date of License: Feb _, 1884 Name of Man: William H. GREGSON Age: 30 Name of Woman: Fredricka LIOSLEY [?] Age: 21 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: March 1, 1884 By Whom Certified: W. G. WAGNER, MG When Recorded: March 6, 1884 Date of License: 1 April 1884 Name of Man: Michael GALLIGAN Age: 23 Name of Woman: Sarah SMITH Age: 18 By whom Affidavit of age was given: 3 April 1884 Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: ----- By Whom Certified: W. C. WILSON, JP When Recorded: April [?] Date of License: 8 April 1884 Name of Man: H. A. GWIN Age: 22 Name of Woman: Mary B. KILPATRICK Age: 22 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: April 10, 1884 By Whom Certified: G. A. GORDON, MG When Recorded: [?] Date of License: May 7, 1884 Name of Man: John GURLEY Age: 26 Name of Woman: Jennie FERRILL Age: 23 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: May 11, 1884 By Whom Certified: J. H. MCGRAFF, MG When Recorded: [?] Date of License: [?] Name of Man: W. L. Gaskin Age: 23 Name of Woman: Mary TISSELL Age: 23 or 28 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: May 18, 1884 By Whom Certified: Wm. BRIGTON, MG When Recorded: [?] Hope these help someone ~ ~ It is all one big circular puzzle and we all have pieces of the puzzle. The miracle happens when we are able to find the person to whom a piece belongs. ~ Karima --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003

Karima, Coincidentally, this week I was researching the Sophia who is listed in this marriage record that you transcribed: William GIESKING [?] -- Sophia BEHUKIN [?] Sophia was b. abt. 1835 in Germany. She married (1) Christopher WAHLMAN and they had five children, Charles (1858), Sophia (1862) , Wilhelmina ("Minnie") 1865, Frederick ("Fritz") 1868, and Henry WAHLMAN (23 Feb 1870). All five children married, and three resided in Campbell Hill. Sophia then married (2) BEHNKEN and they had sons John and Ferdinand BEHNKEN. (1873 and 1876) Sophia then married (3) William GIESEKING, b. Oct 1834, Germany. I have yet to determine Sophia's maiden name. Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karima" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 12:42 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Various Jackson Co., IL Marriages 1881 & 1882 > Dear List Members, > > Below is information taken from Jackson County, Illinois "Marriage > Register." [photo copy]. > > Please note: this is the best transcription I have been able to make. It > is apparent that some of the names are misspelled. In some cases there are > words crossed out and/or written over. ~ Transcribed by Karima 2003 > > > List of Marriages: > > Malcom GRAHAM -- Mannie DAWSON > F. M. GILL -- Mary M. BERRY > Henry GARRETT -- Eliza A, WILSON > John O. GILMORE -- Maud DELANEY > Robert GRAHAM -- Harriet SPEATH > Alonzo T. GREGORY -- Florence SHRAGO > John C. GWIN -- Callie D. CARSON > James W. GILLMORE -- Mary ROBINSON > Jonathan GADDIS -- Mary A. MOORE > William GIESKING [?] -- Sophia BEHUKIN [?] > > > > > Date of License: 13 July 1881 > Name of Man: Malcom GRAHAM > Age: 28 > Name of Woman: Mannie DAWSON > Age: 18 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 14 July 1881 > By Whom Certified: Jessie WARD, JP > When Recorded: July 15, 1881 > > > Date of License: 18 June 1881 > Name of Man: F. M. GILL > Age: 31 > Name of Woman: Mary M. BERRY > Age: 34 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: June 19, 1881 > By Whom Certified: George W. ANDREWS, Co. Judge > When Recorded: 13 July 1881 > > > Date of License: 29 August 1881 > Name of Man: Henry GARRETT > Age: 24 > Name of Woman: Eliza A, WILSON > Age: 28 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: Aug 29, 1881 > By Whom Certified: Issac H. CALDWELL, JP > When Recorded: Agu 20, 1881 > > > Date of License: 27 Aug 1881 > Name of Man: John O. GILMORE > Age: 30 > Name of Woman: Maud DELANEY > Age: 24 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 28 Aug 1881 > By Whom Certified: James R. WINCHESTER, MG > When Recorded: 30 Aug 1881 > > > Date of License: 8 Dec 1881 > Name of Man: Robert GRAHAM > Age: 30 > Name of Woman: Harriet SPEATH > Age: 20 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: 11 Dec 1881 > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: ----- > By Whom Certified: W. C. WILSON, JP > When Recorded: Dec 121881 > > > Date of License: 31 Dec 1881 > Name of Man: Alonzo T. GREGORY > Age: 20 > Name of Woman: Florence SHRAGO > Age: 20 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: Parents > When Married: 31 Dec 1881 > By Whom Certified: Henry F. Eckerd, JP > When Recorded: Jan 2 1882 > > > Date of License: 21 Fed 1882 > Name of Man: John C. GWIN > Age: 22 > Name of Woman: Callie D. CARSON > Age: 24 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: Feb 26, 1882 > By Whom Certified: George A. GORDON [?] > When Recorded: Feb 28, 1882 > > > Date of License: 1 March 1882 > Name of Man: James W. GILLMORE > Age: 24 > Name of Woman: Mary ROBINSON > Age: 21 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- > When Married: 9 March 1882 > By Whom Certified: Robert L. YORK, JP > When Recorded: 20 March 1882 > > > Date of License: 24 March 1882 > Name of Man: Jonathan GADDIS > Age: 28 > Name of Woman: Mary A. MOORE > Age: 22 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: March 24, 1882 > By Whom Certified: M. HONSE [?], MG > When Recorded: 26 March 1882 > > > Date of License: 6 December 1882 > Name of Man: William GIESKING [?] > Age: 48 > Name of Woman: Sophia BEHUKIN [?] > Age: 48 > By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- > Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- > When Married: 7 December 1882 > By Whom Certified: Nicholas GOTHMAMUSHAUKIN [?], mg > When Recorded: 12 Dec. 1882 > > Hope this helps someone ~ > > ~ It is all one big circular puzzle and we all have pieces of the puzzle. > The miracle happens when we are able to find the person to whom a piece > belongs. ~ Karima > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003 > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > * * * HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET?? * * * > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear List Members, Below is information taken from Jackson County, Illinois "Marriage Register." [photo copy]. Please note: this is the best transcription I have been able to make. It is apparent that some of the names are misspelled. In some cases there are words crossed out and/or written over. ~ Transcribed by Karima 2003 List of Marriages: Malcom GRAHAM -- Mannie DAWSON F. M. GILL -- Mary M. BERRY Henry GARRETT -- Eliza A, WILSON John O. GILMORE -- Maud DELANEY Robert GRAHAM -- Harriet SPEATH Alonzo T. GREGORY -- Florence SHRAGO John C. GWIN -- Callie D. CARSON James W. GILLMORE -- Mary ROBINSON Jonathan GADDIS -- Mary A. MOORE William GIESKING [?] -- Sophia BEHUKIN [?] Date of License: 13 July 1881 Name of Man: Malcom GRAHAM Age: 28 Name of Woman: Mannie DAWSON Age: 18 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 14 July 1881 By Whom Certified: Jessie WARD, JP When Recorded: July 15, 1881 Date of License: 18 June 1881 Name of Man: F. M. GILL Age: 31 Name of Woman: Mary M. BERRY Age: 34 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: June 19, 1881 By Whom Certified: George W. ANDREWS, Co. Judge When Recorded: 13 July 1881 Date of License: 29 August 1881 Name of Man: Henry GARRETT Age: 24 Name of Woman: Eliza A, WILSON Age: 28 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: Aug 29, 1881 By Whom Certified: Issac H. CALDWELL, JP When Recorded: Agu 20, 1881 Date of License: 27 Aug 1881 Name of Man: John O. GILMORE Age: 30 Name of Woman: Maud DELANEY Age: 24 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 28 Aug 1881 By Whom Certified: James R. WINCHESTER, MG When Recorded: 30 Aug 1881 Date of License: 8 Dec 1881 Name of Man: Robert GRAHAM Age: 30 Name of Woman: Harriet SPEATH Age: 20 By whom Affidavit of age was given: 11 Dec 1881 Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: ----- By Whom Certified: W. C. WILSON, JP When Recorded: Dec 121881 Date of License: 31 Dec 1881 Name of Man: Alonzo T. GREGORY Age: 20 Name of Woman: Florence SHRAGO Age: 20 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: Parents When Married: 31 Dec 1881 By Whom Certified: Henry F. Eckerd, JP When Recorded: Jan 2 1882 Date of License: 21 Fed 1882 Name of Man: John C. GWIN Age: 22 Name of Woman: Callie D. CARSON Age: 24 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: Feb 26, 1882 By Whom Certified: George A. GORDON [?] When Recorded: Feb 28, 1882 Date of License: 1 March 1882 Name of Man: James W. GILLMORE Age: 24 Name of Woman: Mary ROBINSON Age: 21 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ---- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ---- When Married: 9 March 1882 By Whom Certified: Robert L. YORK, JP When Recorded: 20 March 1882 Date of License: 24 March 1882 Name of Man: Jonathan GADDIS Age: 28 Name of Woman: Mary A. MOORE Age: 22 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: March 24, 1882 By Whom Certified: M. HONSE [?], MG When Recorded: 26 March 1882 Date of License: 6 December 1882 Name of Man: William GIESKING [?] Age: 48 Name of Woman: Sophia BEHUKIN [?] Age: 48 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 7 December 1882 By Whom Certified: Nicholas GOTHMAMUSHAUKIN [?], mg When Recorded: 12 Dec. 1882 Hope this helps someone ~ ~ It is all one big circular puzzle and we all have pieces of the puzzle. The miracle happens when we are able to find the person to whom a piece belongs. ~ Karima --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 20 April 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #16 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, The mind is a fascinating "thing". Often I cannot remember what I had for Easter Dinner less than an hour later, or the name of a person introduced a few seconds ago. Yet, at times, I will write a sentence, a paragraph even, of something I've read years ago, or replay in my mind, a tune heard hours, days, or weeks ago. While on my way driving to Church last Sunday, I heard a piece of music which blended Bach and Canadian Native traditions. Though I needed to concentrate on my driving in traffic, the piece repeated itself in my head at various times during the day, though the name of the piece, and the name of the performers are gone as if never heard. Last week's article brought back nostalgia of a Northwestern General Store that was still operating in the 1960s in Fulton County, Ohio. A place called Lytton's out beyond St Mary's, but on Road "N". It more than reminded me of a modern day "collectables establishment" ... there was just "everything" there. My two young boys loved to be let loose in there to wonder at all the things stocked. I firmly believe that if you asked for something that would be produced in Central Africa, after a reasonable search the owner would produce it. There were things manufactured by Kosh by gosh, came from Otumwa, Iowa, cheese even from Wisconsin. This building is still standing, but barely, long now closed. I don't believe it is as wide as my house, nor longer than the depth of my city lot. The ancient proprietor probably deceased, though lives yet because I fondly remember. Another fascinating place was the Old Rome Center Country Store near Adrian, Michigan. When our children were first introduced to this place it was a small one room place with old counters and display cases filled with all types of sewing tools and material, as well as, kitchen gadgits. Then, there were all the candy sticks. The room was complete with an old coal stove, a checker board with the pieces made of corn cob slices, cracker tins and pickle barrels. Tucked away on high ground overlooking the remnants of the community of Tunnel Hill, Illinois is a building which I imagine as a stage inn. Across the road, along the low ground, is a row of buildings which would be "main" street. There had to be a general store there somewhere. Though the surrounding homes there are well kept and in mostly modern renovation, the old establishment on the high ground is yearly less recognizable due to the growth of vines and ivy encasing it. I wonder about it each time I return to "home" ground of the BENSONs and HARPERs and OLIVERs. Perhaps, the next visit, I will find someone who will tell me the story of that vine covered building. Meanwhile it is a deceased entity. Speaking of the deceased ..... the talk in my circles lately has been about cemeteries. Since my interest in "fleshing out" old bones is so intense there seems to be a "magnet" effect. Letters have come in telling interesting anecdotal stories. Yet it doesn't end just there. Folks have loaned or recommended books about cemeteries and preserving them and the stones therein. Alex Haley's Pulitzer Prize winning 1976 book, which traced six generations of his ancestry, is credited with encouraging better research methods and standards, as well as, showing new concepts of research. More importantly, it gave good examples of customs. Once we discounted "grave witching" as hooey. My Nebraska cousins taught me not to laugh at that craft and my Nebraska friends taught many of us the rules to the craft a few years ago. This week my Southern Illinois friends reported and sent digitized pictures of a grave witching workshop in Massac County. It is interesting to note that in our history graveyards did not have plot maps with registered burials. Before there could be a grave dug, a grave witching had to be performed so that needless digging could be avoided. Along with those pictures were some others of stone markers with my surname on them. Finally, there were some pictures where the hairs on my arms stood out as if charged with static electricity. The room felt cooler suddenly. The first picture was not taken in a neat, well cared for cemetery. It was a cemetery, for there was a stone marker, but obviously it was in or near a swamp, plus the growth around the stone was in the wild state. There was no immediate explanaaton for the feeling. A few pictures later a rather lengthly explanation accompanied the pictures. This was a cemetery back along CRENSHAW Creek in Massac County, Illinois. Somewhere along where these pictures were taken, my 2nd Great Grandfather walked and worked, and might possibly be buried near by, if not right there. Well, it is quite natural to get goose bumps if an ancestor had a noted demise. This probably would cause a particularly unique grave marker and more paper work to trail, errrr, locate. However, so far we have not located any of that wonderful paper trail or a stone. Burial customs have a reason behind them, albeit, that may be based on a superstition. For example, pall bearers wore gloves. That makes a neat show, however, the custom is based on the superstition that the spirit of the deceased could enter the bearers body through their bare hands. Widow's Weeds [black clothes] were and are worn to make the person less visible to the deceased, thus preventing the spirit from bothering the living. Do you know why one doesn't or shouldn't cut into a funeral procession?? It is so as not to attract the wrath of the evil spirits following the procession. You thought it was just to cause an invonvenience to those who have to wait till the "train" passed. :) Clocks were/are stopped, not only to mark the time of death, but all "life" stopped for the family until after the funeral, at which time, the clocks were started again to symbolize the beginning of the family's life again. A clap of thunder after a funeral indicated that the soul of the deceased was accepted in Heaven. Though there were at least two females who advertised that they "laid out of the dead" prior to 1800, between mid-19th century and our "great 20th-century depression", family and neighbors prepared the body for burial. This preparation consisted of washing and dressing the deceased and "laying it out" for visitors to pay their respects. Our custom of sitting with and viewing the deceased is called "visitation", "calling", "waking the dead" or just the "wake". I'm sure that the last term congers up toasting to the deceased with hard liquor or beer. Well, to be sure, that does happen in many cultures. That is the social part of the funeral activities ... lots of food and "drink". That part of the practice of the wake which was the "watch" was the practice of the practical side of the activities. Besides a genuine fear of being buried alive, there were no screens on windows and doors in summer, with bugs and flies having a natural attraction to the dead, family and friends would perform around the clock vigils to protect the corpses. Even in winter, dogs, cats and rats could be "spoilers". Around the clock vigils also served to watch just in case the "body" woke up asking for something to drink. Well, an "undertaker" is one who undertakes funeral arrangements and that term was replaced by either "funeral director" or "mortician". Mortician, though in use, is not as popular. Funeral Director, on the other hand, is mostly used today. I leave you with this bit of trivia. Have you seen the plumes on the old horse drawn hearses? No plume: deceased was poor. Two plumes: moderate financial circumstances. Three or four plumes: pretty well off. Five to six plumes: deceased was well off. Seven to eight plumes: deceased was most wealthy. Oh, well, who needs plumes? Wado, Bill -=- http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Following is information transcribed from Jackson County, Illinois "Marriage Register." [photo copy] MARRIAGES LISTED BELOW Theodore GILLESPIE to Emily J. THOMPSON William Peter GEARHART to Josephine BAGGOT William GREEN to Sarah E. MUSIC William GILES to Eliza H. SOWERS James D. GRIMES to Mary O'NEAL Lorenzo D. GRIFFITH to Addie JENKINS ================================ Date of License: 3 September 1880 Name of Man: Theodore GILLESPIE Age: 26 Name of Woman: Emily J. THOMPSON Age: 17 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: Father When Married: 7 September 1880 By Whom Certified: G. A. GORDON, MG. When Recorded: 9 September 1880 ================================ Date of License: 9 March 1881 Name of Man: William Peter GEARHART Age: 51 Name of Woman: Josephine BAGGOT Age: 38 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 9 March 1881 By Whom Certified: Levi WILLIAMS, JP When Recorded: 21 March 1881 ================================ Date of License: 5 February 1881 Name of Man: William GREEN Age: 45 Name of Woman: Sarah E. MUSIC Age: 35 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 20 Feb 1881 By Whom Certified: Jefferson PHELPS, JO When Recorded: 7 March 1881 ================================ Date of License: 23 April 1881 Name of Man: William GILES Age: 36 Name of Woman: Eliza H. SOWERS Age: 38 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 24 April 1881 By Whom Certified: G. W. ANDREWS, Co. Judge When Recorded: 25 September 1881 ================================ Date of License: 21 June 1881 Name of Man: James D. GRIMES Age: 55 Name of Woman: Mary O'NEAL Age: 45 By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: ----- When Married: 23 June 1881 By Whom Certified: Izri HAGLER, JP When Recorded: 25 June 1881 ================================ Date of License: 8 July 1881 Name of Man: Lorenzo D. GRIFFITH Age: 24 Name of Woman: Addie JENKINS Age: 14 & 6 mo By whom Affidavit of age was given: ----- Consent of Marriage given by whom: Guardian When Married: 8 July 1881 By Whom Certified: G. W. ANDREWS, Co. Judge When Recorded: 8 July 1881 Information taken from Jackson County, Illinois "Marriage Register." [photo copy] ~ Transcribed by Karima 2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003