No Alfred in Randolph in 1860, 5 Cagle's in Williamson Co and 2 in Christian Co in Illinois. Now these are index names and not their families. Randy Crain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Riseling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:33 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Cagle > Velda, > > Do you have anything or do you know of someone that can check census in 1860 > for an Alfred Cagle in Randolph County. I do not know what township he was > in. If someone can find the information, I can probably download it on > ancestry.com Thanks. > > Mary > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Velda, Do you have anything or do you know of someone that can check census in 1860 for an Alfred Cagle in Randolph County. I do not know what township he was in. If someone can find the information, I can probably download it on ancestry.com Thanks. Mary >

This was posted on the Message Board. I have closed the gateway to avoid Spam, etc., and will forward appropriate messages to the list. However, if you wish to respond, please click on the following URL which will take you to the message where it is posted on the board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/235 Thank you, Karima List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:26 PM Subject: CLEMENTS FAMILY/ELKVILLE, ILL/1860's-70's > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/235 > > Message Board Post: > > Still searching for parents of Jacob Clements b 1826/31 IL. Jacob 1st m Margaret Farris 1851, Jackson Co, IL- 4 children born Minerva, Fayretta, M Susanna & George. 2nd m Nancy Morandy Stevens Summers (civil war widow) 1863, Elkville, IL-5 children b- Delilah, Florence, Isaac, Theodore & Jacob Jr. Migrated to Reynolds Co, MO about 1878/79. Have lots of info on Jacob & Family but none on his ancestors. Owned 40 acres in Jackson Co, IL in 1970. Have tax receipt for same. Appreciate any information! > Jerry Clements > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/2003

Velda, I don't have the actual census, I just have the index. Here is what my index indicates: Name: Brewer, Zack Age: 31 Race: White ED: 37 Page: 40 Township: Fountain Bluff No. 392 Relationship: ----- Occupation: Farming Born: IL Father Born: IL Mother Born: IL Does this help? I'll let you know what I hear from my friend that is a Brewer in Murphysboro. I have access to census on ancestry.com. Would you like my to make a copy from there? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Velda Moore <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:05 AM Subject: RE: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > Mary, if you have that 1880 census, would you please send me a copy of > that for Zach. & Nancy C. Davis Brewer? > > Velda Wittenbrink Moore > Randolph County Genealogical Society > visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Riseling [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > > > Velda, > > I have a friend who is a Brewer that lives in Jackson County, Illinois. > She is not really into family history, but I will check with her to see > if the names mean anything to her. > > Mary Riseling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Velda Moore <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:55 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > > > > > > > > Is anyone in Randolph, Perry, or Jackson County doing research on the > > Brewer or Davis family? I need information on both of the persons in > > the Subject Line. I had been looking for their marriage in Missouri > > because they lived in Perry County, MO, but today I found their > > marriage license in the Randolph County Courthouse. They married 11 > > Aug 1870 and Alexander Hood, County Judge, officiated. Jones, ? P. > > gave his consent as her guardian and because she was a minor. > > > > Please contact me if you have any of these names in your family > > history. > > > > Velda Wittenbrink Moore > > Randolph County Genealogical Society > > visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your > message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the > information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the > future. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET??http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

> Dear subcribers, > > On 25 Aug 1883 Miss Anna Maria Kuennen, age 27, married Christian Wolf, age 48, in the City of St. Louis. They were married by a Justice of the Peace. > > I believe this Christian is my gr grandfather but the marriage license does not give parents' names of either the bride or the groom. Therefore, having no other history of this marriage, I cannot be sure I have the correct Christian. > > My great grandfather was married first to Anna Lander. I think perhaps he was next married to Margarethe Bode, nee Finke in 1876 in Mascoutah, IL. He was on the St. Louis 1880 Census AND the 1880 IL Census (yes!) without a wife. Perhaps next, he was married to Christena Kistmacher in Fayette County in 1891. > > I would very much like to hear from anyone who is researching any of these names. > > Will exchange information. > Darlene

Velda, You can find the 1880 census ecords online at the LDS web site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp Tom Shawcriss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velda Moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: RE: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > Mary, if you have that 1880 census, would you please send me a copy of > that for Zach. & Nancy C. Davis Brewer? > > Velda Wittenbrink Moore > Randolph County Genealogical Society > visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Riseling [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > > > Velda, > > I have a friend who is a Brewer that lives in Jackson County, Illinois. > She is not really into family history, but I will check with her to see > if the names mean anything to her. > > Mary Riseling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Velda Moore <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:55 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > > > > > > > > Is anyone in Randolph, Perry, or Jackson County doing research on the > > Brewer or Davis family? I need information on both of the persons in > > the Subject Line. I had been looking for their marriage in Missouri > > because they lived in Perry County, MO, but today I found their > > marriage license in the Randolph County Courthouse. They married 11 > > Aug 1870 and Alexander Hood, County Judge, officiated. Jones, ? P. > > gave his consent as her guardian and because she was a minor. > > > > Please contact me if you have any of these names in your family > > history. > > > > Velda Wittenbrink Moore > > Randolph County Genealogical Society > > visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your > message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the > information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the > future. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET??http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Mary, if you have that 1880 census, would you please send me a copy of that for Zach. & Nancy C. Davis Brewer? Velda Wittenbrink Moore Randolph County Genealogical Society visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ -----Original Message----- From: Mary Riseling [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis Velda, I have a friend who is a Brewer that lives in Jackson County, Illinois. She is not really into family history, but I will check with her to see if the names mean anything to her. Mary Riseling ----- Original Message ----- From: Velda Moore <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:55 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > > > Is anyone in Randolph, Perry, or Jackson County doing research on the > Brewer or Davis family? I need information on both of the persons in > the Subject Line. I had been looking for their marriage in Missouri > because they lived in Perry County, MO, but today I found their > marriage license in the Randolph County Courthouse. They married 11 > Aug 1870 and Alexander Hood, County Judge, officiated. Jones, ? P. > gave his consent as her guardian and because she was a minor. > > Please contact me if you have any of these names in your family > history. > > Velda Wittenbrink Moore > Randolph County Genealogical Society > visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the future. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks, Mary. Another Jackson County person wrote to tell me they had lived in Jackson County. See below: I have Brewers in my line, but haven't done a lot of research, as some of my relatives have already done some of my tree. I don't have this Brewer in my files yet. I found Zack. & Nancy C. Brewer in Fountain Bluff, Jackson county, Illinois, Page 88D in 1880 census. You said you found their marriage license in Randolph county. My Brewers are from there. They lived in Brewersville, which is now part of Prairie Du Rocher and Modoc, IL. I don't have access to earlier census, but you might find them in that area. Ruma, Red Bud, Evansville, Fort Gage, and Kaskaskia are also in the same area. Good luck, Lynn Gardner Velda Wittenbrink Moore Randolph County Genealogical Society visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ -----Original Message----- From: Mary Riseling [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis Velda, I have a friend who is a Brewer that lives in Jackson County, Illinois. She is not really into family history, but I will check with her to see if the names mean anything to her. Mary Riseling ----- Original Message ----- From: Velda Moore <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:55 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > > > Is anyone in Randolph, Perry, or Jackson County doing research on the > Brewer or Davis family? I need information on both of the persons in > the Subject Line. I had been looking for their marriage in Missouri > because they lived in Perry County, MO, but today I found their > marriage license in the Randolph County Courthouse. They married 11 > Aug 1870 and Alexander Hood, County Judge, officiated. Jones, ? P. > gave his consent as her guardian and because she was a minor. > > Please contact me if you have any of these names in your family > history. > > Velda Wittenbrink Moore > Randolph County Genealogical Society > visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the future. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Velda, I have a friend who is a Brewer that lives in Jackson County, Illinois. She is not really into family history, but I will check with her to see if the names mean anything to her. Mary Riseling ----- Original Message ----- From: Velda Moore <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:55 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Z.T.Brewer & Nancy C. Davis > > > Is anyone in Randolph, Perry, or Jackson County doing research on the > Brewer or Davis family? I need information on both of the persons in > the Subject Line. I had been looking for their marriage in Missouri > because they lived in Perry County, MO, but today I found their marriage > license in the Randolph County Courthouse. They married 11 Aug 1870 and > Alexander Hood, County Judge, officiated. Jones, ? P. gave his consent > as her guardian and because she was a minor. > > Please contact me if you have any of these names in your family history. > > Velda Wittenbrink Moore > Randolph County Genealogical Society > visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Alice, Thanks. I don't suppose I could be lucky enough to have the estate papers reference any grandchildren of Minerva and Joseph or perhaps a location on Minerva at the time of her father's death? I know they were in Jackson County, Illinois in 1850 (census) without children. I have checked the 1860 census for Jackson County and also for all of Cherokee County, Kansas (where Joseph was) without success. The 1860 census for Joseph is showing him as still married so I don't think she was deceased in 1860. Do you know anything about the family? I can't figure out why Mineva isn't in the census with her husband, unless they were separated or something. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] HENSON, WHITSON, RISELING > Mary, > > Recently I got copies of the Benjamin Henson estate. Rhoda Henson, Admr, > 1/6/1857 > Heirs: Minerva A. Benoist > Eliza E. Bilderback > Sophia Katharine Mansker, deceased: heir William > T. Mansker > Sarah M. Mansker > Rebecca Ann > Mary E. > Benjamin F. > Matilda Jane > Thomas W. Henson, deceased: heir Joseph B. > Henson > > I think that Minerva must have died after 1857. I don't think they are in the > Jackson Co 1860 census. > > Alice > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Is anyone in Randolph, Perry, or Jackson County doing research on the Brewer or Davis family? I need information on both of the persons in the Subject Line. I had been looking for their marriage in Missouri because they lived in Perry County, MO, but today I found their marriage license in the Randolph County Courthouse. They married 11 Aug 1870 and Alexander Hood, County Judge, officiated. Jones, ? P. gave his consent as her guardian and because she was a minor. Please contact me if you have any of these names in your family history. Velda Wittenbrink Moore Randolph County Genealogical Society visit: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/

Mary, Recently I got copies of the Benjamin Henson estate. Rhoda Henson, Admr, 1/6/1857 Heirs: Minerva A. Benoist Eliza E. Bilderback Sophia Katharine Mansker, deceased: heir William T. Mansker Sarah M. Mansker Rebecca Ann Mary E. Benjamin F. Matilda Jane Thomas W. Henson, deceased: heir Joseph B. Henson I think that Minerva must have died after 1857. I don't think they are in the Jackson Co 1860 census. Alice

In working with my WHITSON and RISELING family research, I have been trying to find out what happened to Mineva HENSON (d/o of Sophia Catherine WHITSON and Benjamin F. HENSON). Minerva married Joseph BENOIST in Jackson County on December 7, 1849. In looking for my RISELING family in Cherokee Co., Kansas, I found Joseph BENOIST living there in 1870 but without a wife or children. (Ironically enough, he went into business with someone from my RISELING side of the family) If there are folks out there working on WHITSONs or HENSONs, does anyone know what happened to Minerva? Mary Riselling Springfield, IL

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Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 08 June 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #23 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, These articles are basically history, however, they are inspired by that branch of history known as genealogy. Within this discipline is a part known as "psychic" genealogy where some additional information that one has been searching for suddenly appears. An example is to randomly reach out to remove a book from a library shelf and open the book to a page which contains some information to assist in solving the mentioned problem. During the past week a subscriber on one of the lists maintained by me asked about some notorious southern Illinois gang members. On another list someone asked for a "rundown" on Bonnie and Clyde. On a third list a person wanted some information about the "30's" gangsters that congregated in the "crossroads" of American [Toledo, Ohio]. To my amusement today's newspaper featured an article about Bonnie and Clyde, with mention of other notorious persons. Well, quite often other major newspapers on Sunday carry the same or similar articles. It is hoped that your local paper carried the article or a similar one for it is not my happiest hour writing about folks that do harmful things to others. Yet, it was interesting to me to see that article appear today, just because the topic was in my mind. Now, "psychic" genealogy would really be appreciated if I could find down along the Ohio River, the gravesite of a third great grandfather when we will be in southern Illinois during this month. Picture the year as pre-1850. Imagine yourself on a slow sternwheel steamboat. Smoke bellowing forth from twin stacks, ponderous engines groaning and puffing steam. Dense forest lines both banks and away from the river bluffs. Only occasionally is sighted signs which indicate that man exists here or has ever existed here. As a traveler, where are you? Are you proceeding up the Maumee River in northwestern Ohio? Are you somewhere down river from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on the Ohio River?? Are you heading north [or south] from St Louis, Missouri, on the Father Mississippi?? Or, their is yet another possibility; are you on the Mighty Missouri, heading to new land opportunities?? Well, it doesn't matter very much where you put your imagination to work. On all these rivers very similar things are happening. The "ship" is loaded with bales and boxes, barrels and bundles, animals — horses, oxen, sheep, cows, pigs, and chickens. On the deck are men, women and children, and possibly the family dog. All these going forth to build their own places on the "western" frontier. When these folks disembark they will go out along their own ways like the spokes from the hub of a wagon wheel to begin populating the hills and valleys, the forests and prairies in whatever is western borderland. Often, at or near the destination, the Father would have a brother or uncle or other near relative and he would set out, on foot, to locate that relative, not seen for many years. The immediate goal would be to arrange for work because their money would be low ... running out. And, true to custom, the Father would not "eat the bread of idleness". The family in the meanwhile would "camp out". They would get a fire blazing and fry up some bacon and make coffee and the odor would permeate the area for awhile. Then with blankets spread out on the ground the talk would be the excited talk of new things to come until the voices would fade and hush as the family would fall asleep beneath the stars above on this their first night on their western frontier. Father would return, possibly with a wagon and oxen to load their belongings and begin a trek to where they would make their new home. Maybe they would have to cross the river where they were let off by the sternwheeler and they would have to travel to where there would be a "rope" ferry. To those of us who only have our imaginations as to what it was like to be on a western frontier, think simple. A strong rope is made fast around a tree on both banks of the river. Two short ropes, with grooved pulleys to slide along the rope tied to both sides of the river, are attached to each end of a raft or flatboat. When the "bow" line was shortened it would put the raft or boat at diagonals with the current and the water or current would then "drive" the craft across. Upon arriving at their final destination, a shelter would be constructed. And, when the animals had properly rested they and the wagon would be returned to their owner. Then the work of making improvements to the land would begin. There were different industries which new arrivals might partake. One might be wool. Somewhere withing fifty miles or so there would be "carding" mills. There wool was spread evenly over an "endless" cloth spread over a table and sprinkled with melted grease. The moving cloth or apron would be carried along to within reach of the teeth of two revolving "carding" wheels. When the wool came out the other side it did so in rolls, ready for the spinning-wheel. Settlers would come to the mills, bringing their own and possibly their neighbors, wool in thorn pinned sheets with the required amount of grease in crocks. Their return home with the rolls of wool was the beginning of activities. Spinning wheels were put into order. They were of one type of two — large or small — wheels. The smaller wheel spinning-wheels were the more common, simply because they took up less room. The small wheels were turned by foot while the larger ones were turned by a wheel-hook. With the small wheel, the spinner sat on a stool and manipulated the roll with her hands. With the larger wheels, the spinner walked back and forth drawing out the roll to great length ... back and forth until the rolls were converted into thread. Dying of the thread would be next on the agenda or process, followed by the weaving of the thread into material. The final step was to make garments. Of course, there were the flax-patches for spinning "low cloth" for hunting shirts and grain bags. The sewing machine and the washing machine were things of the future, but that is stories for another time. Besides sewing, there was the everlasting knitting! Girls began at the earliest possible age. Seems one could never be too young. Girls and women off visiting, buggy [or wagon] riding, and even walking, plied their knitting needles on the way ... just like some folks today. My neighbor knits while watching television. :) Information from a cousin has put the idea that my third great grandfather did some sheep raising down by the Ohio River. Maybe while searching this month something psychic will happen to point toward finding out what he did for an occupation. Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Richard, I found a Carrie Elizabeth Kerr buried in Pleasant Grove Cemetery which is between Murphysboro and Carbondale. I didn't find John. Does this help? There are several cemeteries around the Murphysboro area but the only one I know that is Catholic is that portion of Tower Grove. Good luck with your search. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Murphysboro cemeteries 1894 > Dear List, > Does anyone have information on active cemeteries that were in or very near > Murphysboro other than Tower Grove and the adjacent Catholic (?) cemeteries in > 1894? The City clerk's records do not reflect the burial of John F. Kerr, > 1844-1894 in either of these so where do I now turn? > Thanks, Richard in FL > [email protected] > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Dear List, Does anyone have information on active cemeteries that were in or very near Murphysboro other than Tower Grove and the adjacent Catholic (?) cemeteries in 1894? The City clerk's records do not reflect the burial of John F. Kerr, 1844-1894 in either of these so where do I now turn? Thanks, Richard in FL [email protected]

Ricahrd, surprisingly, the LDS in Utah is one place to turn to. Murphysboro does not have a record of my great grandfather who died there. Yet, the LDS in Utah has a copy of his death certificate. Another source would be the Jackson County Historical Society. They try to salvage records being thrown out or destroyed by the courthouse. They are located in Murphysboro also. George E. Basden Basden Photography [email protected] http://www.basden.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Murphysboro cemeteries 1894 > Dear List, > Does anyone have information on active cemeteries that were in or very near > Murphysboro other than Tower Grove and the adjacent Catholic (?) cemeteries in > 1894? The City clerk's records do not reflect the burial of John F. Kerr, > 1844-1894 in either of these so where do I now turn? > Thanks, Richard in FL > [email protected] > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi! IF there are any descendants and/or researchers of Thomas Moody & his wife Anna Trobaugh Moody out there, please contact me to share info. Thank you. Carol