Hi Alice, Can you see if there are an Larison's buried there? I am working on the family and some of my notes state they were buried there. Thanks, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Goodbread Cemetery > I have "Cemeteries of Jackson County, IL, Vol VIII, Grand Tower Twp" which > includes the Goodbread Cemetery. > > Alice

I was there a couple of weeks ago and took some pictures. Who are you looking for? Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim & Mary Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Goodbread Cemetery > Hi List, > Does anyone have access to who is buried in this cemetery? > > Take Care, > Jim Smith > Collinsville, IL > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am looking for Richard woolseys grave, he died in 1832 in Jackson county and I have been unable to locate his or hif wife elizabeth's grave. charles woosley

I have "Cemeteries of Jackson County, IL, Vol VIII, Grand Tower Twp" which includes the Goodbread Cemetery. Alice

Hi List, Does anyone have access to who is buried in this cemetery? Take Care, Jim Smith Collinsville, IL

Good Evening Family Researchers and All Ship at Sea, Followers of my Little Egypt Heritage articles know that I have a respect for the late Sidney Harris, the Chicago Tribune Columnist. I often use a statement of his which I rather like ... "Things I Learned While Looking Up Something Else." While surfing last week I came across a website which thought that "he [Mr Harris] was a really ignorant individual if he spent the majority of his life looking up stuff and always getting lost along the way, never finding what he set out for in the beginning." Well, to each his own; however, I often get side-tracked because, like Mr Harris, I have an insatiable appetite for leaning new things. Why, just this week, from a cousin, I learned that one of my ancestors [a female line] possibly had eleven children. At least there were thirteen people living under one roof in 1820 Gallatan County. How many of you have heard or read Sharon DeBartolo Carmack??? She wrote: "You Can Write Your Family History" where she said, "There's no reason a fully documented family history can't read like a page-turning novel." "Bringing Your Family History to Life Through Social History" which shows one how to weave historical details into their genealogies to form a unique family history narrative. "Your Guide to Cemetery Research" that covers everything from cemetery and death-related terminology to clues offered by headstone art, and cemeteries' role in our culture and history. "Organizing Your Family History Search: Efficient & Effective Ways to Gather and Protect Your Genealogical Research" that shows the process of organizing family research, from filing to streamlining the process as a whole. "A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering Your Female Ancestors: Special Strategies for Uncovering Hard-To-Find Information about Your Female Lineage" "The Family Tree Guide Book: Everything You Need to Know to Trace Your Genealogy Across North America" and "The Genealogy Sourcebook". There are more but these are those which come to my mind ... "off the top" ... so to speak. Those who are near enough to Carterville, Illinois please be aware that the GENEALOGY SOCIETY OF SOUTHERN ILLINOIS 2003 Genealogy Conference and Book Fair Will be on Saturday, October 11, 2003 At John A. Logan College, Route 13 & Greenbriar Rd., Carterville, IL. Headliner will be: Lectures by Sharon DeBartolo Carmack and the GSSI annual Book Fair Both events will be in the new Conference Center To my dismay, I will not be able to make the ten hour drive to Carterville. While you are attending this wonderful event and listening [learning] from this wonderful speaker I will be giving a small group of 25 interested folks a set of lessons on finding internet sources and documenting them. Please stop by Cousin Mary Jo Moore's "booth" and say "hello" for me. Sincerely, Bill Oliver Little Egypt Heritage

Dear Heritage Readers, Some folks really want to see the M*A*S*H pictures at Tony Packo's. My sincere apologies for the URL error in last nights "stories"/article. Please try the first URL listed here and scroll down to the bottom. Then click on the right hand picture of a red wall with photos. http://patrick.irish.wolfhound.com/ohphoto.html This URL is Tony Packo's history site. A bonus for my above error. http://www.tonypackos.com/history.html Sincerely, Bill -=-

Little Egypt Heritage Article Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 28 September 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #34 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, During the year of my birth, 1932, Tony Packo's Hungarian eatery opened on the East Toledo side of the Maumee River. Tony Packo's has been a symbol of "hometown" long before it became world famous from its extolled virtues from M*A*S*H's Corporal Max Klinger, played by Jamie Farr. The Tony Packo's "dog" is a spicy, plump, grilled crispy experience topped with chili sauce and onions chopped finely. Their Hungarian meal [err, fare] also includes stuffed cabbage and a "cup" of chili. Those who can eat it all cap it with a dish of strudel a la mode. Celebrities, from entertainers to Presidents, are invited to autograph a hotdog bun, which are petrified and displayed. Hanging on the walls are pictures, which include the M*A*S*H cast eating Tony Packo's Hot Dogs <http://users/iGlide.net/gday/TonyPackoWallArt.jpg> Mr Farr, a local Toledo "boy" from Galena Street in north Toledo, also lends his name to a Lady Golf Tournament, the annual Jamie Farr Classic played in Sylvania, Ohio. Jamie Farr also extolled the virtues of the minor league baseball team, the Toledo Mud Hens. I hear you asking, "What exactly is a Mud Hen?" Well, it is marsh bird with short wings and long legs. Aren't all swamp birds long legged? Nebraska has the long legged Blue Heron to contrast, as do those from Cypress area in the Little Egypt area of southern Illinois. Well, anyway, these Mud Hens were common back in the 1880s where Toledo's first baseball park was built. The Mud Hens first played ball in 1883 and the roll of players included an Ed Andrews. I tried to find something about him ... some statistics, but I kept running into a James J Andrews or Wid Matthews. James J Andrews, really had nothing to do with baseball, but that is another story. However, Wid Matthews had a name in southern Illinois and St Louis. Wid Curry Matthews was a local Metropolis, Massac County, Illinois "boy". He had a long varied career in baseball and was honored as a "favorite son". According to the AP news service, Wid Matthews made it to the Major Leagues Baseball at the age of 27 years and was still in the Majors when he passed on at age 69. He started in the minors but was called up by the Athletics in 1923. Though his career as a player was really brief, only three seasons, he was very knowledgeable about the game and a good judge of talent. He became a "Scout" and helped make the Brooklyn Dodgers a "powerhouse". The cry "Play ball!!" is universal in the United States and is heard from "spring camp" through fall. In fact, it is heard in empty lots, school yards, and for the first half of the 20th century it was heard in the pastures of Nebraska. Out on the Plains of Nebraska, in the 1930s, when it hadn't rained for so long and spring came, many folks decided that it would be useless to plant because it wouldn't grow anyway. To take their minds off their troubles, the young would get together in someone's pasture and play baseball. Communities made up teams. There were church teams, club teams, lodge teams, community teams and even family teams. At that time three or four families were living on each section of land and most families were large. Thus, practically every family had a member or more to help make up the teams. Games were played every Sunday and on holidays. My cousin, Bob Reiman was one who played ball. The John Henry and Emma branch could sit out in front of their home and watch the game going on across the road in the field. Every boy and some girls played baseball in the little country schools and small towns. The farm boys, wearing bib overalls and the girls in their cotton dresses, Speaking of bib overalls, the uniforms were overalls or old dress pants. Shoes were heavy work shoes. The local cobbler would put cleats or spikes on them. Unless the teams were sponsored by some merchant, a catcher's mask and old chest pad, plus a couple of bats and balls were the only equipment they had. There was always a good crowd to watch and cheer. Folks would come and park their cars so that they could watch the game from the comfort of automobiles. Windshields would get cracked once in a while from foul hits. The games became so popular that eventually the constructed "bleachers" and made back stops with chicken wire. Oh, and some strung chicken wire down the sidelines to prevent broken windshields. With such support and interest in the game, is it any wonder that some young men turned to professional ball playing? e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- P.S. Welcome back online, Cousin Frances. Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sprouse, Moore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/337 Message Board Post: Looking for any info on George Latham Sprouse in and around Jackson Co. Illinois between 1870 and 1890. Was living with the Moore family on 1870 and 1880 Census. May be listed as George Moore. His mother died around 1878. ameila and Duff Moore are half brother and sister. Thanks

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Did your Thomas North & family ever live in or near Carbondale, to your knowledge? I ask because I recall that when my church, the First Christian Church, Disciples of Christ at Carbondale built a new sanctuary a few years ago, the cornerstone "box" from the original 1902 building was opened, and a Thomas North was on the list of members at that time. I remember because another Thomas North is currently a long-time member and I asked him if this could be an ancestor of his. He did not think so, because his North family farmed SE of Carbondale, I think in Williamson County, where Crab Orchard Lake is now. He attended the "North School" there as a child. A small North family cemetery still exists in the forest near where the North families lived, but is hard to get to today. If either of these North families are yours, I might be able to gather a little more info for you. Also, my copy of the 1878 Jackson County History shows some North's in the index. Do you have that info? And these are listed in the Index of Obits priinted in the So. IL Herald Newspaper: North, Henry Jul 17, 1906 Hugh Dec 26, 1907 James Jun 21, 1906 Mattie M. Oct. 31, 1907 Samuel E. Apr 30, 1914 And 3 Thomas E.'s: Jan 11, 1917; Apr 26, 1917; May 3, 1917 Juli Claussen Carbondale, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] NORTH md WARD > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Allen, Chrisman, Darnell, Grizzell, Maxwell, McCormick, Mifflin, North, Smith, Ward > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/336 > > Message Board Post: > > ISO information about the combined families of Thomas NORTH (1829-1900) and Sarah A (CHRISMAN) WARD-NORTH (1838-1887) > > Thomas was born in Randolph Co, IL, to Levi and Catherine (ALLEN) NORTH. A school teacher by profession, he served in Co K, 83rd IL Infantry, during the Civil War, while 4 brothers served in Co A, 31st IL Infantry. > > Tho stricken with a severe lung ailment, Thomas resumed his career as a teacher following the war, and settled in Jackson Co, IL, where he married Mrs Joel M (Sarah Ann Chrisman) WARD in 1872. > > Born ca 1838 in NY, Sarah was already the mother of perhaps six children when she married Thomas, and in the first eight years of their marriage, she would give birth to another four children. She died in Jackson Co, IL, in 1887, survived by Thomas, and many of these children, all of whom are believed to have been born in IL: > > 1. Kate E WARD - bn ca 1858; still living in 1912; md 1886 in IL to Isaac D MAXWELL > 2. Joel D WARD - bn ca 1860 > 3. Samuel Jacob WARD, Sr - (1862-1944); md 1884 in IL to Maria E SMITH (1865-1951); 7 children > 4. Mary Abbie WARD (1863-1865) > 5. Nellie WARD - bn ca 1864 > 6. Minnie A WARD (1865-1906); md 1889 in IL to John Perry MIFFLIN; min of 2 children > 7. John M NORTH (1873-1961); md 1897 in IL to Effie M GRIZZELL (1878-?); 4 children > 8. Anna L NORTH (1875-1952); md Wm E DARNELL (1180-1940); 4 children > 9. Thomas J NORTH (c.1877-c.1917) > 10. Mary "Mamie" NORTH (1880-1947); md Samuel McCORMICK (1875-1945); 3 children > > Although I have some information on a few of these individuals, I am interested in learning more about them, and their descendants. The elder Thomas NORTH was an older brother of my great-grandfather. > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > If you don't know where or when, in Illinois, an event in your ancestor's life might have occurred, you might be able to find a clue in how to search for this information at the Illinois GenWeb Project's - Unknown IL Counties Web Site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilunknow/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Allen, Chrisman, Darnell, Grizzell, Maxwell, McCormick, Mifflin, North, Smith, Ward Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/336 Message Board Post: ISO information about the combined families of Thomas NORTH (1829-1900) and Sarah A (CHRISMAN) WARD-NORTH (1838-1887) Thomas was born in Randolph Co, IL, to Levi and Catherine (ALLEN) NORTH. A school teacher by profession, he served in Co K, 83rd IL Infantry, during the Civil War, while 4 brothers served in Co A, 31st IL Infantry. Tho stricken with a severe lung ailment, Thomas resumed his career as a teacher following the war, and settled in Jackson Co, IL, where he married Mrs Joel M (Sarah Ann Chrisman) WARD in 1872. Born ca 1838 in NY, Sarah was already the mother of perhaps six children when she married Thomas, and in the first eight years of their marriage, she would give birth to another four children. She died in Jackson Co, IL, in 1887, survived by Thomas, and many of these children, all of whom are believed to have been born in IL: 1. Kate E WARD - bn ca 1858; still living in 1912; md 1886 in IL to Isaac D MAXWELL 2. Joel D WARD - bn ca 1860 3. Samuel Jacob WARD, Sr - (1862-1944); md 1884 in IL to Maria E SMITH (1865-1951); 7 children 4. Mary Abbie WARD (1863-1865) 5. Nellie WARD - bn ca 1864 6. Minnie A WARD (1865-1906); md 1889 in IL to John Perry MIFFLIN; min of 2 children 7. John M NORTH (1873-1961); md 1897 in IL to Effie M GRIZZELL (1878-?); 4 children 8. Anna L NORTH (1875-1952); md Wm E DARNELL (1180-1940); 4 children 9. Thomas J NORTH (c.1877-c.1917) 10. Mary "Mamie" NORTH (1880-1947); md Samuel McCORMICK (1875-1945); 3 children Although I have some information on a few of these individuals, I am interested in learning more about them, and their descendants. The elder Thomas NORTH was an older brother of my great-grandfather.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Adams, Wilson, Woolrich Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/335 Message Board Post: I called the Jackson CO Clerks office to find that there is not a marriage registar book for 1886 but there were plenty of loose documents. If someone is in the area and has some time, I would apprecieate it if you could look up the marriage of Elisha (Elijah) Adams and Mary Woolrich March 1886. I am looking for the Father and Mother of Elijah Adams that would be listed on the marriage registry book.

I am trying to locate family of Timothy Webster (Web) HARRIS, Kenneth HARRIS, Leroy HARRIS originally of Percy, Illinois. Donna Harris [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/330.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks. First person who could answer that question. He is listed as doctor on my mom's birth certificate.

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 14 September 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #33 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, A couple of weeks ago, Grandma Bobbi got me to thinking about plants and their uses, but I thought I would file those ideas away for next spring, except for one item. Grandma Bobbi might say, "Don't follow a cow and eat what they eat, ... cows are awf'ly dumb animals." That got me to thinking about what animals do eat, and that led me to what sheep eat, which led me to wondering about an ancestor who just might have tried sheep raising for their wool. Every so often I review what I know about sheep raising and wondering about 3rdGreat Grandpa Frederick ... did he try raising wool on the hoof, as an enterprise? When Great Grandpa Frederick was born in the Louisiana Territory, sheep raising was an important facet of frontier life. Without a sheep or two, wool for clothing would not be available. Weaving was an important part of frontier living. Today, weaving has rather gone out of style, and is not needed by the average person or family. Clothes are taken "off" the rack, so to speak. And, sheep raising by the average family just isn't done. So sheep raising is left to the mega- firms, and then not so much for the wool, for the wool market has been stagnant. Even so, sheep today are bred larger in size so as to produce more wool and/or mutton. They are also fed greater amounts from storage rather than left to forage from the land. Back in Great Grandpa's day, sheep wouldn't weigh more than forty pounds. Also, they weren't treated much special, so they had to be hardy little rascals ... withstanding cold, hunger and disease. In the past, New England was [and is] a good sheep region, as were the western hills and mountains. And, in the mid-1800s, before the development of the western United States there were millions of acres in open range, in which great rivalries developed between cattle and sheep ranching. In the hill country of middle America, sheep were not given the Shepard's care that we picture so frequently. In the west we picture the sheep herder with his "camper" tending the sheep daily, protecting them from the "wilds" so to speak. In contrast, in the hills west of the coastal areas of the east, sheep foraged for themselves. Farmers fenced in their gardens and what was outside was left for stock. In fact cattle, hogs and sheep were let loose in the hills to graze. They would stay together and rounded up when needed. The sheep would wander away and return when they needed salt or something or, in the fall they would be rounded up so that they could be "brought through the winter". Thus, care of the sheep in the summer was pretty easy ... furnish pasture, water, and some salt. Furnishing shelter and feeding them in the winter was different. Rams were kept for breeding and to keep from inbreeding, they were often traded around the neighborhood. One ram to twenty ewes seemed to be the ratio. Surplus rams were eaten. Surplus rams were usually castrated and raised for ‘wethers' or mutton. Somewhere in reading, it was estimated that one acre of good forage would support three ewes. At those figures it would take more than a quarter section of land to support three hundred sheep. In the southwest, the Spanish introduced sheep into the that area before 1700. There was the owner [the haciendaro], who supervised the mayordomo, who in turn supervised three caporales. Caporales supervised three vaqueros, who in turn supervised three pastores or herders. Each herder tended [day and night] about 1500 sheep. I'm sure there were larger and smaller ranches, but it was a patterned or organizational hierarchy. Americans during the 1830s and 40s made changes to the raising of wool by introducing new breeds, though they maintained the Spanish style of organization. This was due to demand for wool by the New England mills. This new demand reached its peak in the 1870s. This could have stirred Great Grandpa into trying his hand at it during the 1850s. Who knows? I still don't know, and I keep finding small bits of history which do not eliminate the possibility. Ahhhhh, sweet mystery ... !! e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

In a message dated 9/14/03 12:30:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I am interested in finding some/any information on the Reichraths or/and > Jolly's. They resided in the Jackson county area.. Cheryl > Resided in Jackson Co - when?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/330.1 Message Board Post: Dr. Lingle was a male. He was located on North Illinois Ave. He was our family Doctor. I know he was still in his office during the 1940s. He also had a farm on Rocky Comfort Road in Union County. I believe his first name was Fred. Although I was treated by him many times as a young boy, he was just Doc. Lingle to us. I can see him in my mind with all of his pill jugs on the shelves. Ernest Hale

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Reichrath/Jolly Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/334 Message Board Post: I am interested in finding some/any information on the Reichraths or/and Jolly's. They resided in the Jackson county area.. Cheryl

Hi Listers :) I am looking for any pictures, sketches, or any related info of Crews Central Church in Desoto Twp. Many of my CREWS ancestors were members of this church, and my GGG Bannister CREWS donated/sold the land that became Central cemetary. Thank you all for your time :) -Kathryn