This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/177.6.1 Message Board Post: Hi Alice, In the Elliott Cemetery there is a listing for Sanders, A. J. (no dates) after the name is "Co. I, 2 Ill. L.A." (I don't know if that's military) In the Evergreen Cemetery there is a listing for Sanders, S. T. B., Dec. 9, 1869 - Jan. 24, 1924 I hope this was helpful for you. Geraldine

My sincere apologies, spell-check didn't know I meand Staph instead of staff. Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 2 November 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #39 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Soon to be 92 year old Mother-in-Law entered the hospital last Monday and has since contracted a staff infection and is a pretty ill patient. Right now she is non-responsive, which I associate to something like a "comma". This article has been influenced by that fact. Someone recently asked me what I do with all the time I have since I am now "retired". I replied that, "I spend it all trying to figure out how I ever found the time to have a teaching career of thirty two and a half years." My favorite columnist, Roberta de Boer, who writes for The [Toledo] Blade, wrote in her column recently about time and being busy, too busy, to talk long on the phone with a friend. Yet, she admitted that they stretched the "minute" into almost an hour. She went on to explain that the time was necessary because one of the things that was making her friend's life busy was caring for an aging parent. That the parent was having some vertigo problems and falling more often, necessitating long drives. The solution had been to bring the parent to a "nursing home" in the community where the daughter lives. There is, as Ms de Boer writes, "a real empty feeling in the pit of your stomach" when a child trades a parent's independence for the security of "at hand care" when necessary. There is guilt, usually self inflicted, though not always. Those cousins of mine who yet remain in this world remember Grandma Oliver always remarking, "not the way it is supposed to be!", about her friends who went to the "poor farm" or "old folks home" [or nursing home]. Grandma always believed that she would never go to a nursing home ... nope, she had five children to care for her. Well, at 102, she had four children remaining and due to two living 2000 miles away, and health concerns of all four children, Grandma spent a few remaining months in a "home". With each visit she would remind me that this wasn't the way it was supposed to be. She would say that she brought five children into the world and that she should not have to be in a "home". The familiar story of Great Grandma Whittenberg was often repeated by Grandma Oliver. Great Grandma Whittenberg who brought children into the world when she was Grandma Benson, had more children with her second husband. She spent her remaining years with one of her daughters. Grandma Oliver loved to tell of her sitting in her rocker on the front porch, shelling peas, watching her grandchildren playing in the front yard. That was Grandma's idea of how it was "supposed" to be. Dad spent his last months in a nursing home. I can hear Grandma Oliver voicing her disapproval; loud and clear. Two of Dad's sisters spent their remaining time in the homes of their children. And, I can hear Grandma repeating ... "that's the way it's supposed to be." But, I really hear her approval for what took place for her last remaining child, her "baby", Dad's brother. Cousin Dennie, maybe because we all heard Grandma, took time from his work and spent it all with his father. As I visited with Uncle Virge, I saw a great bond between father and son. Yep, Grandma Oliver, sitting on a cloud, rockin' in a chair, had to be saying, "Yep, that's the way it's supposed to be!" e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 2 November 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #39 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Soon to be 92 year old Mother-in-Law entered the hospital last Monday and has since contracted a staff infection and is a pretty ill patient. Right now she is non-responsive, which I associate to something like a "comma". This article has been influenced by that fact. Someone recently asked me what I do with all the time I have since I am now "retired". I replied that, "I spend it all trying to figure out how I ever found the time to have a teaching career of thirty two and a half years." My favorite columnist, Roberta de Boer, who writes for The [Toledo] Blade, wrote in her column recently about time and being busy, too busy, to talk long on the phone with a friend. Yet, she admitted that they stretched the "minute" into almost an hour. She went on to explain that the time was necessary because one of the things that was making her friend's life busy was caring for an aging parent. That the parent was having some vertigo problems and falling more often, necessitating long drives. The solution had been to bring the parent to a "nursing home" in the community where the daughter lives. There is, as Ms de Boer writes, "a real empty feeling in the pit of your stomach" when a child trades a parent's independence for the security of "at hand care" when necessary. There is guilt, usually self inflicted, though not always. Those cousins of mine who yet remain in this world remember Grandma Oliver always remarking, "not the way it is supposed to be!", about her friends who went to the "poor farm" or "old folks home" [or nursing home]. Grandma always believed that she would never go to a nursing home ... nope, she had five children to care for her. Well, at 102, she had four children remaining and due to two living 2000 miles away, and health concerns of all four children, Grandma spent a few remaining months in a "home". With each visit she would remind me that this wasn't the way it was supposed to be. She would say that she brought five children into the world and that she should not have to be in a "home". The familiar story of Great Grandma Whittenberg was often repeated by Grandma Oliver. Great Grandma Whittenberg who brought children into the world when she was Grandma Benson, had more children with her second husband. She spent her remaining years with one of her daughters. Grandma Oliver loved to tell of her sitting in her rocker on the front porch, shelling peas, watching her grandchildren playing in the front yard. That was Grandma's idea of how it was "supposed" to be. Dad spent his last months in a nursing home. I can hear Grandma Oliver voicing her disapproval; loud and clear. Two of Dad's sisters spent their remaining time in the homes of their children. And, I can hear Grandma repeating ... "that's the way it's supposed to be." But, I really hear her approval for what took place for her last remaining child, her "baby", Dad's brother. Cousin Dennie, maybe because we all heard Grandma, took time from his work and spent it all with his father. As I visited with Uncle Virge, I saw a great bond between father and son. Yep, Grandma Oliver, sitting on a cloud, rockin' in a chair, had to be saying, "Yep, that's the way it's supposed to be!" e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/177.6 Message Board Post: do you have any sanders listing ??thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/340.1 Message Board Post: Mike, I have some information on the Tabors. I am having e-mail problems, so I am not sure if this will get to you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/340 Message Board Post: I am looking foo information on Isaac V. Tabors and Zero Tabor. He married Jemima Jones in Jackson County in 1893. He shows in the 1880 census in the household of his step father Parker grosvenor. In the 1900 census he is three doors from his step father. In the 1880 census Zero Tabor Rice is living next door to Parker Grosvenor

Hi Carol, Thanks for reading. Streets of Laredo is also a variation of another Irish ballad .... "A Handful of Laurel". The tunes get passed around and it seems that lyrics appear at various times for different reasons. I am a firm believer that my Scot-Irish ancestors brought many of our familiar colonial and western songs with them ... just added new words. When Grandma sang it it never sounded sad, but proud and strong. Again, Thanks for the comments. Regards, Bill Oliver -=- Carol Garbo wrote: > A real trip down memory lane for me as music has always been a big part > of my life! By the way: "Did they beat the drum slowly, did they play > the fife lowly . . ." is actually from a lovely & sad traditional Irish > song called "Te Geen Fields of France" which I have on an Irish CD. > Carol > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the future. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 26 October 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #38 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, So very often I use quotes from the late Sidney Harris as an introduction or beginning for these articles. The most often one "Things I learned while looking for something else". This week's will probably be entirely off the top of my mind and memory. In what seems decades ago, a Dutch Canadian named Jan Hassebroek, found and e-mailed, for a granddaughter of mine, the words to a piece of music that she was searching for. He signed his reply, "Your Dutch Uncle". Jan ["Yon"] was very kind and had a most gentle soul. Barb and I had the great pleasure of visiting him one time in his city of St Catherines, Ontario. At seventy years young he passed over last Monday. He was a lover of cats and music, all types of music, and had one of the finest collections of recordings that I have ever seen. I'm sure that some DJs would be most envious. His apartment in St Catherines, Ontario was very neat with few pictures and absolutely filled with rows and rows of tapes and CDs and LPs. Jan introduced me to the Celtic singer, Loreena McKennitt. So, everything this week revoled around music. And, what I know about music escaped with the horses when the barn door was left open. However, I love to listen to music. My Grandma Lester had a beautiful voice and there was always a song "on her lips." Mostly Scot and Irish tunes. In the taverns of Salem, Ohio in the 1850s, there was a play entitled "The Arkansas Traveler". It was about a squatter sitting on a cabin porch trying to remember a tune from New Orleans. The theme was much like the tune and words attributed to Colonel Sandford C Faulkner, who sometimes is called the "Arkansas Traveller". In the song, the fiddler fiddled during a rain where his roof "leaded like a water fall, ...". A stranger chastises the fiddler for not fixing the leaks, to which the fiddler replies, "Get along ... for you give me a pain; My cabin never leaks when it doesn't rain." That was much like a song my Dad loved and would always use as an excuse ... "Mañana!" [tomorrow] Grandma Lester sang so effortlessly. I would mix my songs ... "Tell me a story, tell me a story, and then I'll go to bed!" Ha! But, I loved to hear her sing, "Tell me the tales that to me were so dear, ..." Long, Long ago was written in 1833 by the English songwriter, Thomas Haynes Bayly, and is reputed to have been the most popular song in 1843 America. So clearly can I still hear Grandma sing what has always been a favorite of mine ... "I'll take you Home Again, Kathleen." It was as an adult that I learned that the tune wasn't of Irish origin at all. It was written by a Plainfield, Illinois public school teacher, Thomas Westendorf, in 1875. This tune and "My Grandfather's Clock" shared popularity in 1876. We Americans have a habit of borrowing tunes. The words to "Sweet Betsey" were written to a variant Scottish melody of Lord Randall's. Now when I hear Grandma sing "Oh, do you remember Sweet Betsey frolm Pike ..." I relate to a friend who descends from the man whose name identifies a Colorado peak ... "Pike's Peak". Grandma could sing a sweet, mellow ballad; her voice clear as a bell. As sad as the words might be read, they never sounded sad when coming from her lips. So, Jan, I can hear her yet, ... "Oh, beat the drum slowly and play the fife lowly; And play the dead march as you carry me along; ... [Streets of Laredo]. Satchmo, Louis Armstrong, had a home in Queens, New York where his family lived. He would give front porch/stoop concerts for the neighborhood children. When an "Ice Cream" peddler/vender approached, Satchmo would buy ice cream for the children. What a gentle soul ... Jan's soul was like that. The Armstrong home in Corona, Queens, New York is registered as a National Historic Landmark and is being opened this month [October 15th, 2003] as a museum to honor the Jazz musician. America is rich in musical background; not all original to this country, of course, however, somewhere there is a song in our history for every purpose. I've adapted a few lines above and here below. [With great liberties taken -- editorial substitutions in brackets] Dear Fren' Jan, I can't find you ... "I'll tell you why I can't find you ..." "You gone fishin' ..." "Gone fishin' by a shady wady pool ..." "Papa [Wim] ..." "I stopped by your place a time or two ..." "And you aren't home either ..." "I'm a busy man [Jan], I got [lots] cookin' ..." "Gone fishin' ..." "Got your [cat] by your side ..." "Fleas are bitin' at [it's] hide ..." "Mister [Jan] and Mister [Wim] ..." Someday "[You] [goin'] fishin' instead of just a-wishin' ..." To my everlasting shame, I get so wrapped up in my daily activities that the day is gone before I remember to write to those many, many friends and family. I neglect, as I have with Jan, to write often to family and friends. Werner and PikeGirl and Sons and Daughters and Cousins, ........... I think of you all often ..... very often. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

A real trip down memory lane for me as music has always been a big part of my life! By the way: "Did they beat the drum slowly, did they play the fife lowly . . ." is actually from a lovely & sad traditional Irish song called "Te Geen Fields of France" which I have on an Irish CD. Carol

I received this letter from another list, and thought y'all might be interested in it... Jean Webmaster for: <A HREF="www.perrycountyillinois.net">Perry County Illinois</A> <A HREF="www.randolphcountyillinois.net">Randolph County Illinois</A> [email protected] ============================================== > In case you have not read about it, a new monument is being built in > Washington, DC (between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Monument) in > rememberance of those who served (and some died) in World War II. To view the information, pictures of the > monument and the Registry of > Remembrances, go to: http://www.wwiimemorial.com/ and on > the home page, (on the side menu) click on "WWII Registry", and that will > take you to the Introduction page. > click on the "Search the Registry" at the top of the page. On the Search > page, just input the last name. > You can input any surname and get a listing of all those who have been added > to the list to date. > > If you would like to add to the honoree list, click on the "Register An > Honoree" on the Introduction page and you will have to establish an account by > inputting your zip code and e-mail account, the registry will in turn e-mail > you back with an "Account Number" to use in adding or editing your registry > information. On the pages where the names are listed, click on the person's name and> > it will take you to a page with more information about the person - some > have added a picture of the honoree to the page. On the "Source" of the > information where it shows "National Archives" or "ABMC Cemeteries", these were > submitted by the ABM Commission. > > The American Battle Monuments Commission (ABMC) will be holding a four-day > dedication celebration over the Memorial Day weekend in 2004 (May 27-30). > There are pages of information re the dedication events, hotel reservations, > visitor information, etc. > They also have a few commemorative items for purchase at the web site. > > The site of the memorial is where the President's helicopter use to land - > it now lands on the White House lawn! - more secure site! >

HELLO, I WAS TOLD THAT THE RECORDS AND INFORMATION THAT WAS AT S.I.U. IN CARBONDALE,(I.R.A.D.) ISN'T THERE ANYMORE AND THAT THEY WERE SENT TO SPRINGFIELD? IS THIS TRUE? cAROL

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/339 Message Board Post: We now have the Historic Atlas of Illinois Counties available directly online at the following URL: http://www.har-indy.com/il_map/il_index.html Each Atlas CD consists of 9 or more bordering counties making up 1 of 11 Zones that depict all of Illinois' 102 counties. Each Zone Atlas contains high resolution (400 dpi) scanned images of vintage 1876 county maps that are presented in Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF). Each county map may include the following 19th century features: * roads, railroads and canals * cities, towns and villages * post offices and government sites * one-room schoolhouses, churches and cemeteries * rivers, streams and ferries * racetracks, fairgrounds and picnic groves * industrial sites, furnaces and mills * early homesteads and farms * and much, much more The Historic Atlas of Illinois series is an invaluable aid to Genealogists, Historians and researchers in search of 19th century Illinois places. The Adobe Acrobat Reader for MS Windows is needed to view, zoom, pan and print from the PDF map images contained in this atlas; and is included free on each CD. No other software is necessary. Best Regards, Rich Green

Good Evening, The following was posted on the ROOTS-L list and it looks like a really great resource.: Karima ======================================= Hi all! Besides climbing mountains (we've done hundreds of ascents in the last few years), Karen and I are still active in the technical and genealogical communities. To test some new software, Karen has built a collection of links for folks interested in Illinois (USA) genealogical research. It's kinda large -- 32,468 links and growing -- so it should be of value to almost anyone doing research in Illinois. The focus is on county-level resources, so it covers material that differs from what you might find on the ROOTS-L State Pages and CyndisList. The URL is: http://www.linkpendium.com/ and follow the link near the bottom of the page to the alpha test site. Note that this *IS* an alpha test. That means the software isn't really ready for prime time yet and will be undergoing frequent revisions. Please be patient with us as we grow the facility. Enjoy! -B -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L Hundred Peaks Section Webmaster http://angeles.sierraclub.org/hps/ P.O. Box 6831, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6831 [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 10/16/2003

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 19 October 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #37 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, As a retired person, I keep busy. In fact I always wonder how I had time to work when I was fully employed. Anyway to satisfy part of my being, I work part time for a Clerk of Common Pleas Courts. Part of my position is to help her keep up with literature. She furnishes the journals and I furnish the time to read them. They cover a good diversity .... legislative matters, computer technology, business journals ... things like that. So, it is always true that I learn new things while looking for other things. I was reading a periodical called "FastCompany" this week. On page 138 [Nov 2003] I learned what a "big" mouth can get you. Norma "Duffy" Lyon, who is a bit older than me, but no less a braggart, for she said, "I can do it better!" She took 800 pounds of unsalted, five year-old butter and a week of eight hour days to sculpt an Ayrshire [cow] for the Iowa State Fair. How would you like that to display at your local Fair? She has sculpt celebrities, and things from Harley Cycles to the Last Supper. She works in a refrigerated environment and is a great conservationist ... she dismantles her sculptures and freezes the butter until the next project. Well, the subject intrigued me, so I went off to the internet and tested the search engines for "butter sculpting". I encourage you to do the same ... there is a "ton" of sites containing pictures and articles. They range from Tibetan monks creating elaborate scenes to cows at State Fairs and other statues. There are the many "clever" [head]lines, such as "high-cholesterol art", and "a pat on the back for the butter sculptor". In Tibet, to celebrate the New Year, Buddhist monks sculpt stories or fables from yak-butter. Some of them reach a height of 30 feet and are lit with special "butter" lamps. In fact, I've read where butter sculpture an ancient art in Tibet. The creations symbolized impermanence which is basic to their form of Buddhism. In our culture the art is connected to County and State Fairs and "sideshows". Late in the 19thcentury, San Franciscan, Caroline Brooks was nationally known for her butter sculpture. She became known as the "Butterlady". Unlike the Tibetans and modern sculptors, Ms Brooks work was prelude to marble sculptures. Early in the 20th century, J E Wallace worked in large coolers to sculpt cows for agricultural fairs. The art remains popular today all across the United States. Norma Lyons has created 30 butter cows for the Illinois State Fair. She is about or almost 75 years old. A 2001 newspaper article said she would probably retire. She was the Grand Marshall for the 2001 parade in Springfield, IL, opening that year's fair. Ms Lyons is from Toledo. Maybe unfortunate for northwestern Ohioans, not Toledo, Ohio, but Toledo, Iowa. It was at the Iowa State Fair that she sculpted the Last Supper. This scene took over a ton of butter. Her cow sculptures are all life size. She became Iowa's State Fair sculptress in 1960, after she had commented that she could do better than a previous cow that had been displayed at the fair. Ms "Duffy" studied with Christian Petersen. Petersen was an artist in residence a Iowa State from 1934 to 1955. In 2000, she sculpted Mr Petersen sculpting his famous work, "The Gentle Doctor". In Pennsylvania a committee of the dairy industry picks a theme, however because it was September 2001, Edward Shank was given "liberty" to create a scene. In great secrecy he worked and when he revealed his sculpture it contained a fireman directing a hose, a police officer handing a large flag to a uniformed soldier in a Special Operations beret. The work of art took nearly 800 pounds of donated butter. In Minnesota last year [2002], in celebration of their first decade there, Tibetan Buddhists displayed delicate blossoms in colored butter. On another front, the Princess Kay of the Milky Way at the Minnesota State Fair serves as the official goodwill ambassador for Minnesota's dairy industry. One of the first official duties of the Princess Kay is to sit in a rotating cooler for several hours on the opening day of the fair to have her likeness sculpted in a 90-pound block of butter. Butter sculpting at the Minnesota State Fair is to highlight the state's publicity as the "butter capital of the nation." 2100 pounds of butter formed three Hasbro creations for display at the 2000 Ohio State Fair. A Tonka truck, Furby, and Rich Uncle Pennybags from Monopoly were formed by Hasbro sculptor in Cincinnati. The Hasbro lead sculptor, Bob Kling, and others volunteered to take over from 36 year veteran of carved butter cows, calves and famous Ohioans, Dan Ross, at the state fair when he retired. To maintain the tradition, the Bob Kling artists also sculpted a cow and calf. Butter sculpture is not exclusive to agriculture and State fairs. In the 1800's many frontier women molded and imprinted their homemade butter. Part of my position with a Clerk of Common Pleas Courts is to e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Mary and Carol, Is your Mary C. JENKINS the same person as the Mary C. JENKINS who was born in Mar 1888 in Illinois, the daughter of James Albert JENKINS (1866 - 1930) and his wife Katherine Georgia MOUTEL ( 1867 - 1938)? James worked for the Merchants Basket & Box Company in Grand Tower. I see that Carol has James as James B. Jenkins, but I am wondering if the "B" in James B. JENKINS stood for "Bert," and he was in fact the same person that I have listed as James Albert JENKINS. I had thought that Mary had died of TB before reaching the age of 22y. I do not have a death date for her. She was not listed with her parents in Grand Tower in the Apr 1910 census, but I suppose she could have been married and living somewhere else under her married name. I am researching the MOUTEL family. Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Riseling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] ILLIG, MORGAN, JENKINS > Carol, > > I have Mary C. Jenkins in my line but I don't have any further information > other than she was born about March 1888 in Illinois. > > Mary Riseling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Illig <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:44 PM > Subject: [ILJACKSON] ILLIG, MORGAN, JENKINS > > > > Hello all, > > I just got back online and have a new email address. > > I'm STILL looking for MORGAN , ILLIG and JENKINS , in Randolph , Perry and > Jackson Counties in Illinois.(my husbands side) > > If we have shared info before , please email me , because I have lost all > the address,s that were in my address book. > > I am ALSO , searching for KELLER , WOLF , BAIRD , in these counties > (this is My side) > > Especially searching for: > > > > PHILIP ILLIG , born in Germany abt 1831 > > CHARLES HENRY ILLIG > > HENRY ARTHUR ILLIG , > > HENRY DALE ILLIG , born 1918 > > --------------------------- > > JAMES B. JENKINS > > MARY C. JENKINS (his daughter) > > --------------------------- > > JOHN D'LAYFETTE MORGAN ( believe he was a sheriff in Randolph Co., > Ill. > > --------------------------- > > ANDREW KELLER , born abt. 1817 Germany > > HENRY KELLER , born 1848 in Germany (Half-Brother to Phillip Jacob > Keller and Philip Peter Keller)of Ava Illinois > > JOHN ANDREW KELLER , born 1877 in Illinois > > HERBERT LAWRENCE KELLER , born abt. 1909 in Cutler, Illinois > > -------------------------- > > JAMES WOLF (jackson & Perry co. Illinois) born 1837 , Tennessee > > JAMES W. WOLF > > BIRDIA WOLF , born 1877 in Jackson Co. Illinois > > ------------------------- > > ELIZABETH BAIRD (BEARD), (married 1st to JAMES (?) (2nd to HENRY KELLER) > > ------------------------- > > Thank You for any help. > > Carol Illig > > (My name WAS Carol Scott) > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET??http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, Ok, I found her marriage record.(MARY C. JENKINS) She married CHARLES J. ILLIG , Oct. 9, 1885 in Perry Co, Illinois It says that she was 19 yrs old , making her born abt. 1866, says she was born in Jackson Co., Illinois. It lists her Father as JAMES N. JENKINS (sorry I had that wrong), and Mother's maiden name as NANCY E. HOLT. I'll have to look at some more records I have here before I can answer the James B. Jenkins question. Just found it . It's JOHN B. JENKINS (born 1823 in Caldwell Co., Ky --Died 1850 Jackson Co., Illinois), his Father was ARTHUR B. JENKINS born in 1788 in S. C. , had 14 children , unknown when he died. Is Any of this familiar? Carol Illig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Shawcross" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] ILLIG, MORGAN, JENKINS > Mary and Carol, > > Is your Mary C. JENKINS the same person as the Mary C. JENKINS who was born > in Mar 1888 in Illinois, the daughter of James Albert JENKINS (1866 - 1930) > and his wife Katherine Georgia MOUTEL ( 1867 - 1938)? James worked for the > Merchants Basket & Box Company in Grand Tower. I see that Carol has James as > James B. Jenkins, but I am wondering if the "B" in James B. JENKINS stood > for "Bert," and he was in fact the same person that I have listed as James > Albert JENKINS. > > I had thought that Mary had died of TB before reaching the age of 22y. I do > not have a death date for her. She was not listed with her parents in Grand > Tower in the Apr 1910 census, but I suppose she could have been married and > living somewhere else under her married name. > > I am researching the MOUTEL family. > > Tom Shawcross > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Riseling" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] ILLIG, MORGAN, JENKINS > > > > Carol, > > > > I have Mary C. Jenkins in my line but I don't have any further information > > other than she was born about March 1888 in Illinois. > > > > Mary Riseling > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carol Illig <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:44 PM > > Subject: [ILJACKSON] ILLIG, MORGAN, JENKINS > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > I just got back online and have a new email address. > > > I'm STILL looking for MORGAN , ILLIG and JENKINS , in Randolph , Perry > and > > Jackson Counties in Illinois.(my husbands side) > > > If we have shared info before , please email me , because I have lost > all > > the address,s that were in my address book. > > > I am ALSO , searching for KELLER , WOLF , BAIRD , in these counties > > (this is My side) > > > Especially searching for: > > > > > > PHILIP ILLIG , born in Germany abt 1831 > > > CHARLES HENRY ILLIG > > > HENRY ARTHUR ILLIG , > > > HENRY DALE ILLIG , born 1918 > > > --------------------------- > > > JAMES B. JENKINS > > > MARY C. JENKINS (his daughter) > > > --------------------------- > > > JOHN D'LAYFETTE MORGAN ( believe he was a sheriff in Randolph Co., > > Ill. > > > --------------------------- > > > ANDREW KELLER , born abt. 1817 Germany > > > HENRY KELLER , born 1848 in Germany (Half-Brother to Phillip Jacob > > Keller and Philip Peter Keller)of Ava Illinois > > > JOHN ANDREW KELLER , born 1877 in Illinois > > > HERBERT LAWRENCE KELLER , born abt. 1909 in Cutler, Illinois > > > -------------------------- > > > JAMES WOLF (jackson & Perry co. Illinois) born 1837 , Tennessee > > > JAMES W. WOLF > > > BIRDIA WOLF , born 1877 in Jackson Co. Illinois > > > ------------------------- > > > ELIZABETH BAIRD (BEARD), (married 1st to JAMES (?) (2nd to HENRY KELLER) > > > ------------------------- > > > Thank You for any help. > > > Carol Illig > > > (My name WAS Carol Scott) > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES > YET??http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Carol, I have Mary C. Jenkins in my line but I don't have any further information other than she was born about March 1888 in Illinois. Mary Riseling ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Illig <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] ILLIG, MORGAN, JENKINS > Hello all, > I just got back online and have a new email address. > I'm STILL looking for MORGAN , ILLIG and JENKINS , in Randolph , Perry and Jackson Counties in Illinois.(my husbands side) > If we have shared info before , please email me , because I have lost all the address,s that were in my address book. > I am ALSO , searching for KELLER , WOLF , BAIRD , in these counties (this is My side) > Especially searching for: > > PHILIP ILLIG , born in Germany abt 1831 > CHARLES HENRY ILLIG > HENRY ARTHUR ILLIG , > HENRY DALE ILLIG , born 1918 > --------------------------- > JAMES B. JENKINS > MARY C. JENKINS (his daughter) > --------------------------- > JOHN D'LAYFETTE MORGAN ( believe he was a sheriff in Randolph Co., Ill. > --------------------------- > ANDREW KELLER , born abt. 1817 Germany > HENRY KELLER , born 1848 in Germany (Half-Brother to Phillip Jacob Keller and Philip Peter Keller)of Ava Illinois > JOHN ANDREW KELLER , born 1877 in Illinois > HERBERT LAWRENCE KELLER , born abt. 1909 in Cutler, Illinois > -------------------------- > JAMES WOLF (jackson & Perry co. Illinois) born 1837 , Tennessee > JAMES W. WOLF > BIRDIA WOLF , born 1877 in Jackson Co. Illinois > ------------------------- > ELIZABETH BAIRD (BEARD), (married 1st to JAMES (?) (2nd to HENRY KELLER) > ------------------------- > Thank You for any help. > Carol Illig > (My name WAS Carol Scott) > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BLACK, HAGLER, DOSS, BUTLER, REAMES, BROWN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/338 Message Board Post: I am new to this board, but I am looking for info on subject line. Below is all the info I know: William Alfred Black b. around 1843-44. Been told in Livingston Co., KY, somewhere in TN. or IL. He m. Emeline Frances Butler b. 1847 in TN (around Sumner/Macon Co.) on Mar 11, 1826 (Sumner Co.TN). Emeline was the daughter of Elijah Butler and Elizabeth Doss. There children: 1. Will Black b. abt. 1879 m. Ernestine 2. Grayson Black b. abt. 1880 m. Clevie 3. Maud M. Black b. abt 1881 m. John R. Brown in Union County, IL on Mar 06, 1898 4. Charles Washington Black b. May 30, 1881 Union Co., IL. d. Aug. 11, 1949 Union Co., IL m. Myrtle Mae Reames in 1907 5. Ada Julia Black b. Jan 26, 1885 Reynoldsville, IL(?) d. Feb 16, 1962 Jackson Co., IL m. Lemuel Bert Hagler on April 23, 1904 in Anna, IL = MY LINE Any and all info would be appreciated. I have been looking for him for abt. 4 yrs.

My husband's Aunt Margaret Honey Cotton worked as a nurse during the aftermath of the tornado. She told us that many of the deaths were from gas line ruptures that caught fire and trapped people in their basements. Velda Moore

Hello again JIM :) the names I gave were just similar to the names you gave....I have found so many transcribed names being of various spellings (some were just Really Off..lol), sometimes it can be the same person. Sorry that I could not help more... :) I will add the names that you gave as possible victims of the tornado,,,please let me know if you gather any more info on them. This is a good segway to my request .....If anyone has names of 1925 tornado victims that are not listed in any published references/websites (ie: ILTRAILS/JACKSON, the book Forgotten Storm, IL State Archives...Deaths..etc) Please write to me. I am compiling an alphabetical listing of all the deaths I can find that occured in Jackson Co, IL, even if they are buried elsewhere. OR, if the victim IS listed on a site, I would love to gather their Birth date/location, their parents names, and any account of how they died. I have for a long time wanted to do this...and maybe publish a lasting complete memorial to this tragedy. Can anyone help? Thank you in advance for your time... :) ---Kathryn (Carbondale native,,,transplanted North)