Hi! Would anyone happen to know if bodies buried in various cemeteries where Cedar Lake now is were exhumed & re-buried? Thank you for any info. Carol

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 16 January 2004 Vol 3 Issue: Special Edition #01 Addendum ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, Yesterday I mentioned Milo Erwin's "The History of Williamson County, Illinois, From the Earliest Times, Down to the Present", Marion, Illinois, 1876. The response to that article was much more than I expected. A couple of cousins were aware of my meaning and wrote to tell me so. So did some whom I can't yet claim as cousins [except in spirit]. Two things impressed me about the various comments besides the expressions of sympathy. First, the comments taught me some things about my Father's natal land. This pleases me, for I DO learn many things by opening my "mail". And, that brings me to the second thing: others of you out there have that great curiosity that compels one to seek new knowledge. One of the comments wanted to know about the term "Bloody Williamson", as they had never heard that before. Many books about Williamson County mention that name, but it was so dubbed due to a series of events, the main being the Herrin Massacre of the 1920s. An additional reference is Paul M Angle's, "Bloody Williamson, A Chapter in American Lawlessness", Alfred A Knopf, New York, 1952. It is back in print in a soft cover. My cover has a picture of the Birger Gang. Mr Angle goes into much detail about the horrible event known as the Herrin Massacre, however, I would like to quote from his forward: "I do contend that in friendliness and hospitality the people of this region are unsurpassed. Walk along the street in any town in Egypt — the proud name of the southernmost quarter of Illinois — and most of the pedestrians you pass will smile and wish you good morning. Walk a block or two further, and a car will pull to the curb and stop. The driver, who has never seen you before, will ask whether he can't take you where you are going. ....." "This contrast between the people of Williamson County as I know them and their record of violence and lawlessness is one of the reasons why I decided to write this book. ...." [page xxiv] I love reading those words again and again, for it is the way my Dad expressed his memories of Little Egypt. By the Way, the pages of my copy of this book have long since come loose from their binding. <smile> e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

The following obituary appeared in the Jonesboro Sun newspaper in Jonesboro, Arkansas on Sunday, January 11, 2004. HOLTZCLAW Otis Holtzclaw, 77 of Jonesboro died Thursday, Jan. 8, at St. Bernard's Medical Center. He was a resident of SkilCare Nursing Center. There are no immediate survivors. A memorial service will be at 2 p.m. Monday at Rose SkilCare Nursing Center, 2911 Browns Lane, Jonesboro, with the Rev. bobby Crabb officiating. Emerson Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Nancy Matthews [email protected] Nancy's Lawrence County Corner (Arkansas) http://users.ritternet.com/nlmatthews/ Genealogy Society of Craighead County, Arkansas http://www.freewebs.com/craighead_genealogy/

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 15 January 2004 Vol 3 Issue: Special Edition #01 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, I never pulled much that my parents didn't know about. It is not that I informed them, but years later when certain tales came out, they knew a lot more than I ever wanted them to know [at least at that time]. Well, there were stories about them that when they were told in family gatherings we children, grandchildren and cousins would giggle with glee and our eyes would sparkle. My Dad was born and raised [pre-teen] in "Little Egypt". His Dad in Sulphur Springs [Creal Springs, today] and his Mom in West Vienna [Boles]. One thing about that is that he never forgot his early childhood and had very strong feelings about the area and the people. Oh, he would say that they always called Williamson county "Bloody Williamson", however he'd add, "... not the folks I knew!" Since our daughter passed from this life between Christmas and New Year's just past, I was reminded of the above each time one of the family and/or friends mentions the wonderful things they remember about Sarah. Along with this, I found, in my readings this week, the following words which I quote sections of from, Milo Erwin's "The History of Williamson County, Illinois, From the Earliest Times, Down to the Present", Marion, Illinois, 1876, pages 87-88. "I was born a farmer, and am therefore independent." "I have known this people [Williamson County, IL folks] from childhood. I believe, sublimated by education, they are capable of attaining nobler hights than have usually been ascribed to the people of ‘Egypt.' I not only glory in my birth-place, but pass encomiums on the county, and say to the world that from my knowledge of the public spirit of our people, I can expect protection, honest dealing and liberty ...". "Linked to her by historic associations and proudly treasuring the memories of my fathers, ...",,, "... and invite an unsophisticated world to look with joy and pride upon a county redeemed from crime, and sparkling with brilliant gems of innocence and virtue. ...." "... and prove to the world that our community is not composed of outlaws and cut-throats, but of a highly intellectual, honorable and moral people." This was not said to hide or white wash what history has recorded. Our people were [and are] human and products of their times. Prejudices have changed and as have attitudes. The peoples who represent our enemies change with times and circumstances. The historian, like the Mr Milo Erwins, looks at the daily relationships of people and strips away some of the truly repugnant deeds done by the person/s who committed them. That which is left is the love for those who we call "kin" and "neighbor". This is good so long as we can remain aware of all of the facts. Williamson County must record the "Vendetta" in all its horrors, but remember that is was conceived by some leaders and carried out by fiendish emissaries, not the people themselves. My cousins and I must face some acts by kin who in today's judgments didn't act in ways we would, but they are kin and their everyday behavior had many good qualities just the same. Probably they weren't as "wicked" as volumes have been written about them, nor as "good" as my interpretations. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 11 January 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #02 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, There is a saying that we are not given more than we can handle. There is another one which goes something like this: "When the going gets tough, the tough get going". [I] Don't want "no" more; things are tough enough. <hugebroadsmile> I woke one day during this week to read a "day old" newspaper and discovered that the Mother of two of my cousins' passed away at 89 years of age. Bon Voyage, Aunt Helen. Aunt Helen had gotten a divorce and passed out of many of our lives in the late 1930s. There were nineteen of us "OLIVER" cousins. There are still thirteen of us "above ground" and most of us are scattered far and wide. That brings me to say a word or two about the pros and cons of our mobility. Grandma Oliver's sister, Fanny, migrated to "Canadee" in a Conestoga Wagon. With this type of travel one didn't often return to the "homestead". There are cases of "returning" east after disillusionments, especially in the Nebraska territory, but for the main, even communication between family members was lost when distance separated them. In my wife's family an Uncle went west to Iowa. The last known communication between brothers was sitting on the porch of the "staying" brother in Wood County, Ohio. He was quoted as saying, "Well, Will, I guess we won't be seeing much of each other." Well, to continue, Grandma Oliver, born in 1885, flew in jet airliners and witnessed Neil Armstrong's step upon the moon. What do I remember? Steam engine whistles. Long before they decided to build an "underpass" for our street I remember that the train engineers had to pull the cord on their steam whistle to notify drivers that they were near the crossing. My Mother's youngest sister had tuberculosis of the hip bone and was considered a "cripple". The engineers on those trains gave her a flashlight in which to signal them as they passed the house. There was a code of some sort, which was developed between the trainmen and my Aunt. I remember going o sleep to the sound of those steam whistles and hearing the clicking of the rails. How soothing. When we returned from Bermuda in January 1942, we stayed with my maternal Grandmother. They had moved and lived across a boulevard from a freight switching yard. The engines would pull and push and release cars on various side tracks to make up long freight trains. Here too, they used their whistles as they would block traffic on a near by street. However, the various sounds of the engine pushing railroad cars, releasing cars, the clacking of the wheels along the tracks, and the eventual crashing sound of cars connecting together lulled me to sleep. Those sounds meant things were "right" with my world. The third remembrance was riding the trains for long distances to get from one city to another, following my Father from [military] post to post. There was a romance to "riding the rails". It was the "click of the rails" and the slight swaying that could lull one into a peaceful sleep. It was a magnetic or hypnotic feeling. Mobility was certainly enhanced during the "great depression" of the 1930s. Somewhere I read that there was a quarter of a million American teen "hoboes" riding the rails. Those were just teens; we have all heard of the great movement of people during the depression using automobiles as Conestoga Wagons. As a reminder of those times, read or re-read John Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men" and/or Irene Hunt's "No Promises in the Wind". These past few days, humankind has sent its technology to Mars. The magnitude of that fantastic engineering accomplishment is more than some of us can grasp. Some of us can remember being awestruck when Armstrong stepped upon the moon. Those "giant steps for Mankind" just keep on "keepin' on. Gazing at a full moon on a bright night, it is difficult not to think about a verse from a song written by Guy Clark. It concerned a train that was "highballing" down the tracks through a small Texas town when he was a boy in the late 1940s. "It left 50 or 60 people, just sittin' on their cars "Wonderin' what it's comin' to and how it got this far!" Those were the days of the first Jet air-o-planes; at least ten years before the first monkey in space. One wonders if there will ever be a train that runs on our moon or on the planet Mars. Getting back to the Conestoga Wagon is a bit difficult with the mind out in space. The Conestoga Wagon was most common vehicle for hauling goods or freight. It was developed in Pennsylvania by German immigrants. They were large and heavy. They could haul up to about 5 tons, where smaller "farm wagons" could only carry about 1000 to 3000 pounds, depending on their length and depth. Though "Prairie Schooners" were referred to as land ships, the Conestoga Wagon had some similarities to ships. First their bottoms were slightly rounded. This was so that barrels wouldn't roll out while going up and down hills. The ends of the wagon beds were angled like the bow and stern of a boat. The watertight covering [hence the term "covered wagon"] extended out beyond the bow and stern of these vessels. These wagons were so heavy that it usually took teams of six to eight horses to pull such heavy freight. Oxen were sometimes used. Along the Sante Fe trail, horses were not practical due to the long distances between water holes. So, oxen and/or mules were used. Teams of as many as two dozen of these animals might be used depending upon the weight of the freight being hauled. Today we notice along our highways, and sometimes streets, truck traileers [wagon beds] in tandem. This is an adaptation of earlier days when a second wagon or "backaction" was sometimes hitched behind a lead wagon. Due to the impractability of these large heavy wagons on the Sante Fe Trail it was necessary to make adaptations Good ole Yankee Ingenuity altered the Conestoga Wagon to a smaller version. This became known as the "Prairie Schooner". The difference was the new Prairie Schooner, with tongue and neck yoke measured a bit less [about 23 feet] than the covering of the old style wagons [29 to 33 feet]. These wagons [both the Conestoga and the Prairie Schooner] were built in three main parts so that they could be repaired easier. These parts were the covering, the bed, and the undercarriage or "running gear". The "bonnets" or coverings were stretched over hardwood bows, which had been soaked until pliable, bent into U-shapes and allowed to dry. The bonnets themselves were usually homespun cotton doubled to make them watertight. The outward angled front and back allowed some protection to the contents of the interior. The wagon bed was made from hardwoods to minimize shrinking. The sideboards were about two to three foot deep and with a bit of tar, the bed was made watertight. The bed sat upon two sets of wheels of different sizes. The front wheels being smaller than the rear ones. This was to aid the maneuverability of the wagon. To protect the wooden rims, wheels had forged "tires". Though the wheels were made of hardwoods to reduce shrinking, and thus allowing the "tires" to come loose and leave the wheels. The wheels were often soaked in streams and creeks if available. "Jockey" boxes were attached either to the rear or sides of the wagon beds. These carried repair items such as iron bolts, linch pins, skeins, nails, hoop iron, any tools and a "jack" to lift the wagon bed for wheel repair or replacement. Wagon repairing was a good business along the trails, supplying a need for wainwrights and blacksmiths. Springs, except under the driver's seat, were unknown. Riding a wagon was not comfortable. There are stories written that some parts of trails were so rough that one could put cream in the butter churns and have constant supplies of fresh butter. The later wagons used by those in the "western movement" were adaptations of the Prairie Schooner, called "farm wagons". There were not as large, nor as well sheltered. Their bonnets usually were not cantilevered, front and back. Traveling by wagon was certainly a romance. <grin> e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 4 January 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #01 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, An acquaintance wrote, "Always remember, family is still family, and Family History is not a burden, but a labor of love." [Thank you, Derek] Another, very distant acquaintance, wrote that newspapers articles should not be posted to lists. Well, HAPPY NEW YEAR, anyway, folks. This is a brand new year. Last year ended with the passing of a daughter; this year began with her memorial service. And, this is the time for making New Year's Resolutions. My resolutions are to eat everything fattening and disgusting in sight, sit around more and watch tv, fight with my wife and remaining children, and work as little as I can. I further resolve not to spend 2 hours every day reading in the bathroom, but rather to come out to do my reading, not to develop a regular daily routine, not to stop and smell the roses, not to slow down and remember what is important in life [family and family history] and not to remember my daily blessings. Now don't ask me as to whom to blame for New Year's Resolutions. Since we are sure that there were New Year celebrations way back in the Babylonian era, it is probable that that "whomever" didn't have an e-mail address. Well, historically speaking, the Babylonians didn't celebrate New Years the same way we do. First it was in March, rather than January, and it more coincided with the spring planting of crops. Thus, if you can't seem to get a good start on your New Year's Resolution(s) you can start again in March. Actually, new year celebrations have always been a time for reflecting upon the past, yet forward to coming times. It is that wishful thinking time for contemplating the changes we want [or need]; it is the forward motivational spirit. Tradition has it that what one does on the first day of the New Year will effect the rest of the year. So make your first day observations carefully. Also, deliberate what you resolve to do ... it can be "tough" to stick with. The literature tells us that the most oft broken resolution is about losing weight, and exercising more. I can believe it, because during the period between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day I'm sure that I consume my weight in chocolate. Certainly, we don't know exactly when the first resolution was broken, however, I would wager that it closely followed the first resolution made. So, if you must break your resolution(s), do so with the knowledge that you are upholding a long standing tradition. Rest assured that resolution breaking dates back to ancient times; that you are in good company. Be it assured that I have already broken every resolution made above, especially the one about not stopping to smell the roses. Our Sarah grew them. I will forever appreciate the sight of daffodils, for she gave a bouquet of "home grown" to her mother every year. On a bit different tact, on January 6, 1933 Calvin Coolidge died. His outstanding record included never being defeated for an Office. He was known as a man of few words. This played a big part in his career. He was noted for waiting for circumstances to shape his destiny. He listened, he assimilated, and he waited until there appeared what seemed to be the soundest course. He did not try to make circumstances; but, when they appeared in the right configuration, he acted. Otherwise he waited. Coolidge was a lawyer, the first of his line to leave the New England "farm" in three centuries. He did take his family's frugal way of living out with him. He was our thirtieth president of the United States and shared with the first President the distinction of retiring before the nation was willing to let him do so. His outstanding characteristic was his ability to wait in silence. At first it made him a subject of ridicule. His opponents offered his career as a proof that if a man keeps his mouth shut long enough, something fortunate is likely to happen to him. Eventually his silence was regarded as a heroic manifestation and became a legend. Another great legend that I admired was Dizzy Gillespie, the trumpet player. He was a major player as a founding father of modern jazz. His signature moon cheeks and bent trumpet made him one of the world's most instantly recognizable figures. He died at Englewood Hospital in Englewood, N.J. On 6 January 1993. HAPPY NEW YEAR! May your genealogical brick walls come tumbling down in 2004. e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

Anyone have any information on Killabrew LEWIS born approx 1818 in NC, TN or KY..... ??? Is known to have purchased 80 acres in Goode Twp near Sesser, Franklin Co., IL abt Nov 1853. Story goes .. One day simply walked away from his home and was never heard from aagain ... ??? Believed to be son of James Lewis and Angeline Beasley. Need Verification on this..... Susan

George Thomas GENT married Harriet J. NEWELL in Jackson County, IL on 03/23/1880. Here they are in the Jun 1880 census (surname spelled GHENT in that census record): Census Place: De Soto, Jackson, Illinois Source: FHL Film 1254214 National Archives Film T9-0214 Page 112D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thomas GHENT Self M M W 20 KY Occ: Farmer Fa: NJ Mo: KY Hattie GHENT Wife F M W 17 AL Occ: Housekeeper Fa: KY Mo: AL The 1880 record contains errors. Harriet was born in KY, not AL. She was the daughter of Frank NEWELL, b. abt 1821/1822 NJ and Isabelle b. abt. 1831/1832 KY. In the Aug 1870 census for DeSoto Pct., DeSoto P.O., Jackson County, IL, Harriet is listed with her parents and five siblings in family 79 (siblings are named William, Isaac, Fanny, Robert, and Lucy). In the Apr 1910 census for Maumelle Twp., Craighead County, Arkansas. family 98, George T. GENT is listed as 50y old, b. TN (as were his parents) his wife Harriet J. is listed as 47y old, b. KY , father b. NJ, mother b. KY They have two daughters (Myrtle and Berty) and two sons, all b. in Arkansas In the 15 Jan 1920 census for Brookland Twp., Craighead County, AR family 115, George T. GENT is listed as 59y old, b. TN and parents b. TN (he is a farmer) his wife Harriet J. is listed as 53y old, b. KY, father b. Pennsylvania, mother b. KY their daughter Birdie E. is listed as 16y old b. AR (the census was taken 15 Jan 1920, so she had not yet had her birthday for that year) a 14y old son is listed in the household too. Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Re: George G. GENT & Harriet J. NEWELL marriage 1880 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/226.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I would like any information that you have on George Gent & Harriet J Newell. I believe that they are my grandparents their daughter Berdie Gent is my mother. the only information that i have is my mothers request for a SS# she listed them as her parents. > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the future. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Gg.2ADI/226.1 Message Board Post: I would like any information that you have on George Gent & Harriet J Newell. I believe that they are my grandparents their daughter Berdie Gent is my mother. the only information that i have is my mothers request for a SS# she listed them as her parents.

I don't know if this will help but you might also want to try contacting the Illinois State Archives as they keep all records on all the departments of the State of Illinois back to statehood. E-mails take a while to get answered from them because they are so short staffed but you could also try and give them a phone call and see what types of information they might have. The number for the Illinois State Operator is 217-782-2000 and then you can ask for the Illinois State Archives. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] information on Robert R. Cruse family > am searching for any information on my grandfather, Robert R. CRUSE. > > He was a life long resident of Southern Illinois and was appointed the > Illinois State Director of Mines and Minerals in 1948. > > He would have been born sometime around 1880 and had three children: Kenneth, > Joe, and June. > > He died around 1960. > > His father's name was John Marion Cruse and he fought in the Civil War. > > Thank you > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

am searching for any information on my grandfather, Robert R. CRUSE. He was a life long resident of Southern Illinois and was appointed the Illinois State Director of Mines and Minerals in 1948. He would have been born sometime around 1880 and had three children: Kenneth, Joe, and June. He died around 1960. His father's name was John Marion Cruse and he fought in the Civil War. Thank you

Your grandfather is listed in the Jan 1920 census for Brush Village, Blairsville Twp., Williamson County, IL family 368. Occupation: General Manager, Coal Mine. He is listed as 37 y old, b. IL and parents b. KY (since the census was dated 10 Jan 1920, he was probably born in 1882). His wife Bessie is listed as 36y old, b. IL. They have children named Kenneth, June, and Joe (in order of oldest to youngest). Robert and Bessie and son Joseph are also listed in the Apr 1930 census for Cambria Village, Blairsville Twp., Williamson, IL family 188. Robert and Bessie are also listed in the Apr 1910 census for Reeves Village, Blairsville Twp., Williamson, IL family 41. He is listed as Robert R. CRUSE, coal miner. He and Bessie have been married three years and have a son named Kenneth. In this record, Robert's father is listed as b. in TN and his mother b. in IL Bessie was b. in IL and so were her parents. Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] information on Robert R. CRUSE > I am searching for any information on my grandfather, Robert R. CRUSE. > > He was a life long resident of Southern Illinois and was appointed the > Illinois State Director of Mines and Minerals in 1948. > > He would have been born sometime around 1880 and had three children: Kenneth, > Joe, and June. > > He died around 1960. > > Thank you > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am searching for any information on my grandfather, Robert R. CRUSE. He was a life long resident of Southern Illinois and was appointed the Illinois State Director of Mines and Minerals in 1948. He would have been born sometime around 1880 and had three children: Kenneth, Joe, and June. He died around 1960. Thank you

Perhaps he is one of these fellows listed in the SSDI: (name, birth, death, residence at death, last check mailed to, SS #, state where SS issued). The second one looks most promising to me, because he died in IL. It would probably be easy to find out more about this gentleman at the newspaper archives in Morris library at SIU--obits, articles, etc. and in the on-line census indexes. Good luck! Juli Claussen Search & Genealogy Services www.sgservices.bravepages.com ROBERT CRUSE 25 Jan 1876 Jun 1963 (New Mexico) (none specified) 525-72-7741 New Mexico ROBERT CRUSE 15 Jul 1883 Jul 1964 (Illinois) (none specified) 493-05-2836 Missouri ROBERT CRUSE 27 Dec 1871 Jun 1963 (Oklahoma) (none specified) 441-38-0010 Oklahoma ROBERT CRUSE 08 Nov 1887 Jul 1966 40391 (Winchester, Clark, KY) (none specified) 402-36-6157 Kentucky ROBERT CRUSE 30 Nov 1898 May 1960 (not specified) (none specified) 169-07-4981 Pennsylvania ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] information on Robert R. CRUSE > I am searching for any information on my grandfather, Robert R. CRUSE. > > He was a life long resident of Southern Illinois and was appointed the > Illinois State Director of Mines and Minerals in 1948. > > He would have been born sometime around 1880 and had three children: Kenneth, > Joe, and June. > > He died around 1960. > > Thank you > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Little Egypt Heritage, 24 December 2003, Vol 2 #44 > Little Egypt Heritage Articles > Stories of Southern Illinois > (c) Bill Oliver > > 24 December 2003 > Vol 2 Issue: #44 > ISBN: pending > > Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, > > An acquaintance wrote, "Always remember, family is still > family, and Family History is not a burden, but a labor of > love." [Thank you, Derek] > > Three weeks ago was my Dad's birthday. Two weeks ago was > Pearl Harbor Day. [For me there is a connection between the > two.] Maybe it is because I have lots of silver color in my > hair that someone always asks me where I was on the Seventh > of December in 1941. I remember. I was sitting on a hill > overlooking the Harbor area and beyond, on the Island of > Bermuda, with a family friend. We were watching a German > U-boat tender supplying submarines. They were probably the > same ones that followed us, almost four weeks later, back to > New York harbor. > > This rather sets the mood for this week's article of "this > and that", or "Things I learned while catching up on my > reading." > > Just after the Civil War the SS Republic, a steam side > paddle wheeler, with tall masts, sank during a hurricane off > the shores of Georgia. Amazingly the cargo and coins were > well preserved in the frigid waters in 1700 feet of water. > The ship from New York was bound for New Orleans was loaded > with a mixed cargo to help that city recover from the War > Between the States. This included $400,000 in gold and > silver coins minted before 1865. An estimated value of 150 > million in today's market. I've seen what vintage ship > museums do with river boats cargo. They do "resurrect the > spirit of forgotten ships and eras." Those items include > pepper sauce, pickles, champaign, mustard and patient > medicines. I remember such a museum in Kansas City, > Kansas. Besides the reconstruction of the stern wheeler, > there were tools of all types, clothing, boots, bolts of > material, wines, etc. > > I was more than amused to learn that things I attributed to > Abe Lincoln, were not, after all, said by the sixteenth > President. He is credited with "The strength of the nation > lies in the homes of its people." Hmmm, the article I read > says that the closest statement like that was said in 1928 > by Herbert Hoover ... "The foundation of American life rests > upon the home and the family." The one I really like is: > "There's no honorable way o kill, no gentle way to destroy. > There is nothing good in war except its ending." Though > attributed to Lincoln by anti-war protestors this year, the > statement was actually made by an actor portraying Lincoln > in an episode of Star Trek. > > Speaking of Presidents, ... I learned that there was only > one true Presidential bachelor ... President James > Buchanan. The one just before Lincoln. He never married. > In 1819 he called off his engagement to Ann Coleman before > the wedding. He appointed his niece, Harriet Lane, to be > the official White House hostess. > > Grover Cleveland was a bachelor, but he married Frances > Folsom in the White House in 1886. Earlier, John Tylor > married, while President, Julia Gardinier as his second > wife; his first wife, Letitia Christian died in 1842 during > his term as President. > > The current National Geographic has a set of pictures of > galaxies and other heavenly bodies. They are gorgeous > pictures. I remember recently seeing another picture of the > recent Sun storms. It was an image collected by NASA > coronagraph. It was a "cool" green in color. > > Recently, nested on the front page was a picture of a > soldier, just returned from Iraq, planting a big kiss on his > daughter's cheek. This little one looked as if she wasn't > quite sure who this soldier was. The expression on her face > was a bit different than my sister's when our Marine Corp > Dad came home for a short visit before World War II. My > sister displayed a smile which ran across the entire > picture. But then she was at least three years old. It's > tough on young children when their parent[s] are sent to > some foreign shore for long periods of time. > > At some time during this holiday period, all of our children > will have visited the old homestead, and we are so > grateful. One Granddaughter has helped "Grandma" fix some > of the food for Christmas dinner. She's five now and a > "cook of the world". She knows how to stir, even though she > gets a bit excited sometimes. Oh, they are so enthusiastic > when they are so young. > > Children of all ages can help cook and bake. They can > measure ingredients. They can mix with the electric mixer > without getting things outside the bowl ... not like > Grandpa. Grandpa "smashes" the potatoes all over the > counter; the wall; everywhere. > > Hey, those kids shape dough, spread the frostings on > thickly, and sprinkle the sprinkles. > > These are the traditions that make ant holiday. Hey, I > remember Grandma making buttery buttery German Spritz > cookies and three bean salad with onions. Cranberry sauce > with walnuts was another favorite. Pumpkin pie for desert; > dumplings on the side. > > Rhysie would love to make "thumbprint" cookies ... just use > your thumb and make an indentation in the cneter of each > cookie. Works every time! > > Cooking makes for a good family fun time with plenty of > flour all over faces, hands and the floor. Be sure that you > take advantage of it every chance you get. You'll not > regret it. > > Merry Christmas 2003! > > e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. > (May you walk in peace and harmony) > > Wado, > > > Bill > -=- > > PostScript: > > Other sites worth visiting: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 24 December 2003 Vol 2 Issue: #44 ISBN: pending Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, An acquaintance wrote, "Always remember, family is still family, and Family History is not a burden, but a labor of love." [Thank you, Derek] Three weeks ago was my Dad's birthday. Two weeks ago was Pearl Harbor Day. [For me there is a connection between the two.] Maybe it is because I have lots of silver color in my hair that someone always asks me where I was on the Seventh of December in 1941. I remember. I was sitting on a hill overlooking the Harbor area and beyond, on the Island of Bermuda, with a family friend. We were watching a German U-boat tender supplying submarines. They were probably the same ones that followed us, almost four weeks later, back to New York harbor. This rather sets the mood for this week's article of "this and that", or "Things I learned while catching up on my reading." Just after the Civil War the SS Republic, a steam side paddle wheeler, with tall masts, sank during a hurricane off the shores of Georgia. Amazingly the cargo and coins were well preserved in the frigid waters in 1700 feet of water. The ship from New York was bound for New Orleans was loaded with a mixed cargo to help that city recover from the War Between the States. This included $400,000 in gold and silver coins minted before 1865. An estimated value of 150 million in today's market. I've seen what vintage ship museums do with river boats cargo. They do "resurrect the spirit of forgotten ships and eras." Those items include pepper sauce, pickles, champaign, mustard and patient medicines. I remember such a museum in Kansas City, Kansas. Besides the reconstruction of the stern wheeler, there were tools of all types, clothing, boots, bolts of material, wines, etc. I was more than amused to learn that things I attributed to Abe Lincoln, were not, after all, said by the sixteenth President. He is credited with "The strength of the nation lies in the homes of its people." Hmmm, the article I read says that the closest statement like that was said in 1928 by Herbert Hoover ... "The foundation of American life rests upon the home and the family." The one I really like is: "There's no honorable way o kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war except its ending." Though attributed to Lincoln by anti-war protestors this year, the statement was actually made by an actor portraying Lincoln in an episode of Star Trek. Speaking of Presidents, ... I learned that there was only one true Presidential bachelor ... President James Buchanan. The one just before Lincoln. He never married. In 1819 he called off his engagement to Ann Coleman before the wedding. He appointed his niece, Harriet Lane, to be the official White House hostess. Grover Cleveland was a bachelor, but he married Frances Folsom in the White House in 1886. Earlier, John Tylor married, while President, Julia Gardinier as his second wife; his first wife, Letitia Christian died in 1842 during his term as President. The current National Geographic has a set of pictures of galaxies and other heavenly bodies. They are gorgeous pictures. I remember recently seeing another picture of the recent Sun storms. It was an image collected by NASA coronagraph. It was a "cool" green in color. Recently, nested on the front page was a picture of a soldier, just returned from Iraq, planting a big kiss on his daughter's cheek. This little one looked as if she wasn't quite sure who this soldier was. The expression on her face was a bit different than my sister's when our Marine Corp Dad came home for a short visit before World War II. My sister displayed a smile which ran across the entire picture. But then she was at least three years old. It's tough on young children when their parent[s] are sent to some foreign shore for long periods of time. At some time during this holiday period, all of our children will have visited the old homestead, and we are so grateful. One Granddaughter has helped "Grandma" fix some of the food for Christmas dinner. She's five now and a "cook of the world". She knows how to stir, even though she gets a bit excited sometimes. Oh, they are so enthusiastic when they are so young. Children of all ages can help cook and bake. They can measure ingredients. They can mix with the electric mixer without getting things outside the bowl ... not like Grandpa. Grandpa "smashes" the potatoes all over the counter; the wall; everywhere. Hey, those kids shape dough, spread the frostings on thickly, and sprinkle the sprinkles. These are the traditions that make ant holiday. Hey, I remember Grandma making buttery buttery German Spritz cookies and three bean salad with onions. Cranberry sauce with walnuts was another favorite. Pumpkin pie for desert; dumplings on the side. Rhysie would love to make "thumbprint" cookies ... just use your thumb and make an indentation in the cneter of each cookie. Works every time! Cooking makes for a good family fun time with plenty of flour all over faces, hands and the floor. Be sure that you take advantage of it every chance you get. You'll not regret it. Merry Christmas 2003! e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: Other sites worth visiting: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

The probate record for Thomas F. Thurman says: Thurman, Thomas F. Berry B. Whitson 61 2283 Oct 22, 1859 So, he died in 1859, but I don't know where he was buried. It seems he was not around too much. He went to the California gold fields for awhile, and I think he also spent some time in New Orleans. Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Riseling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Thomas Thurman > I'm looking for the burial site for Thomas THURMAN. I don't have a birth or death date for him but he may have been born around 1830. I have Murphysboro Township, Murphysboro City and Grand Tower Township cemetery listings but he is not listed. His wife, Amanda, is buried in Walker Hill Cemetery. Can somebody check their other Jackson County listings and see if he turns up? Thanks and Merry Christmas everybody! > > Mary Riseling > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted to the list? A "quiet" list will never help anyone! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I'm looking for the burial site for Thomas THURMAN. I don't have a birth or death date for him but he may have been born around 1830. I have Murphysboro Township, Murphysboro City and Grand Tower Township cemetery listings but he is not listed. His wife, Amanda, is buried in Walker Hill Cemetery. Can somebody check their other Jackson County listings and see if he turns up? Thanks and Merry Christmas everybody! Mary Riseling

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