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    1. FW: [ILSTCLAI] 1856 Illinois Probate Guide
    2. Velda Moore
    3. Velda Moore 3 Forest Court Chester, IL 62233 phone: 618-826-4169 [email protected] [email protected] http://www.larrett.com/velda/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ -----Original Message----- From: Fred Dickerson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 11:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILSTCLAI] 1856 Illinois Probate Guide >From another list--FYI--just passign it along-Fred Subject: Illinois Probate Guide 1856 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 06:13:10 -0700 (PDT) there's an article on the 1856 Illinois probate guide posted on this site http://www.rootdig.com/adn/1856probatemanual.html Thought it might be of interest to some on the list. Kevin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

    07/01/2004 12:52:17
    1. Little Egypt Heritage, 27 June 2004, Vol 3 #24
    2. Bill
    3. Little Egypt Heritage Articles (c) Bill Oliver 27 June 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #24 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, [Continued from Vol 3 #23, 20 June 2004] There is nothing quite so terrible as disappointment to an eight year old. When you have your heart set on digging for dinosaur bones and your find out that that activity isn't going to take place as advertise it can be earth shattering. Our grandson let his disappointment be known in loud bursts of guttural noises that could be heard in any county surrounding us. From in front of us was a young paleontologist, Chris Ott, who offered to, as a substitute, take us all on a behind the scenes tour of the museum where he worked. And, what a grand tour it was. We got to peak at rows and rows of specimens, all "neatly" packaged and stored in drawers or on shelves. It could be compared to the Catacombs in Rome, Italy. No, this was more exciting, for we saw bones in many stages of being restored to the "light of day". Fossils of dinosaurs, some of which we had never heard about, and some even that as yet do not have a name. Setting at the kitchen table of our cottage while writing these words, I gaze out the window and look up the steep hill behind. It reminds me of a similar hill in Falls Church, Virginia. Up at the top of this hill was an outcrop of boulders arranged in such a way that I could sit in solitude and enjoy long periods of "day dreaming" or reading. I see our grandson up this hill leaping from one boulder to another, lost in his own world, reciting information about dinosaurs and dinosaur bones. He may not have been able to "dig" for bones, but he got to touch rare and extinct remains of some mighty giants. I wonder what he will tell his class when he returns to school and the teacher asks him to tell his class what he did during his "summer". Later in the day, after visiting Mount Rushmore for "a few minutes", we visited the Crazy Horse Memorial site. There we spent hours looking at pictures of the Black Hills culture and observing artisans making jewelry, painting pictures, and other symbols of the culture. This included demonstrations of dancing. Our granddaughter is most precocious and is able to walk up to anyone and start a conversation, either by asking a question or making comment. She had some of these artisans telling her the wonderful stories of how things came to be. Her fascination with one young man [Mose J Brings Plenty] was intense, for he sat and told the stories with captivating elocution. She particularly enjoyed the story of how the prairie chicken taught the Lakota how to dance. This story teller sure enjoyed listening to that story teller. <smile> His analogy was nigh perfect and when I next see a Sioux dance I will remember Mr Brings Plenty's story of how it all began. While there I had the distinct pleasure of some in-depth conversation with Mr Del Iron Cloud, a Hunkpapa Sioux. Mr Iron Cloud is an artist of talent. He has a fascinating ability to illustrate several concepts in his works. One particular painting titled "Forget Not The Past" has some notoriety. It portrays a Viet Nam Veteran and his little girl at the Viet Nam Memorial in Washington, D.C. The little girl touches fingers with a shadow youngster of the past. Surrounded by other shadow figures, an Elder offers a bundle of sage through the wall to the veteran, passing the torch as it were, to the modern generation to remember the heritage and forget not all the reasons for maintaining freedoms. What great sensitivity. I understand that Mr Iron Cloud has a web biography. The biography is at: www.lionscampco.org/cloud.html. Many paintings by Mr Iron Cloud can be located by a google search of Del Iron Cloud. On the aluminum siding to the garage of our grandchildren are the remains of the artistic attempts by these recently six and eight year olds. The siding had to be "cleaned" by these two. Mr Iron Cloud related that that paralleled one of his early experiences. He was about five when he used crayons to create his first pictures on the kitchen door. He was also given a bucket of water and a sponge. <grin> [To be continuted] [Continued] e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

    06/27/2004 12:57:07
    1. Cemeteries under Kincaid Lake
    2. The Gummersheimers
    3. I am looking for information on cemeteries that were covered by Kincaid Lake. Does anyone know if there are transcriptions for them or if they were moved? Thanks Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 8:25 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Little Egypt Heritage, 20 June 2004, Vol 2 #23 > Little Egypt Heritage Articles > Stories of Southern Illinois > (c) Bill Oliver > > 20 June 2004 > Vol 3 Issue: #23 > ISBN: pending > > Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, > > When I was growing up in the South, there was an oft used term of > endearment -- "Grandmother" So-'n-So. These were the elders of families > and/or the community and it was the "respectful" term to use. In > Southern Illinois, where my Father spent his beginning years, it was > shortened a bit to the more familiar term, "Grandma", but it carried the > same meaning. I remember Grandma Oliver using the term to refer to my > Great Great Grandmother. It was always "Grandma Whittenberg" this and > "Grandma Whittenberg" that. Grandma Whittenberg apparently was the > matriarch who sat outside on the cabin porch rocking in a chair, > shelling peas and watching the young children. She also told the "old" > stories some of which have been passed down through Grandma Oliver to us > "young'uns". > > Grandma Oliver always said she wanted to live longer than Grandma > Whittenberg. Well, she managed to do just that ... by about twenty years. > > It is most difficult to hear the tone of voice in the written word. > However, I cannot but help hear that reverent tone whenever I read the > term -- "Grandmother" So-'n-So. So it is when other words pass before > my eyes in reading. "Elder" is such a word, used both as a title in > many churches and as a position within a culture. It denotes wisdom > [earned or otherwise]. > There is something else which happens with such words as Elder or > Grandmother. It is the way they are put together which hints at > cultural recognition. That which makes one feel as if being addressed > by a brethren of the spirit, if not blood. It is what makes me feel a > part of a group because they say that they are [or act that if they > thought that they are] something, then they are that something. It is > much like the saying, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, > looks like a duck, then it is a duck." > > While traveling in South Dakota last week, we stopped and ate at a diner > named Doo-wah- Ditty's. We loved reading their menu. There were some > claims about them and their service which we enjoyed very much. They > said about their menu: "You'll notice that unlike other restaurants, we > have no pictures of food. That's because we believe our customers can > read." They continued about their staff: "We have 33 waitresses on > staff, 27 know what they're doing, 5 are new, and one is in a real bad > mood. Good Luck!" About the famous they tauted: "No President of the > United States admits to visiting this site." For supper, our > granddaughter insisted, as only a five year old can, on oat-meal with > a scoop of ice cream. The young waitress giggled and said to us, "I was > just like that." Now for those who think it strange to put a scoop of > ice cream in your bowl of oatmeal; the ice cream serves as adding in > cream, in-addition, it serves as the sweetener, and it helps to cool > it. It wasn't this grandparent who taught her that. <roar> > > A fossil is any evidence of ancient life. It might be the actual part > of something that lived a long time ago. Our grandson, at eight years, > envisions himself as a paleontologist. Now, we have visited the Field > Museum in Chicago, where we saw a dinosaur named "Sue" and other ancient > bones. Thus, we stopped in Hill City, South Dakota because they tauted > a set of bones named "Stan". Folks, if you are interested in such > things, let me tell you that the Black Hills Institute of Geological > Research, Inc. in Hill City beats the Field Museum hands down. There > were more lessons to be learned in that one room than one can imagine. > And, it doesn't cost you a "red cent", if you can resist walking out > without purchasing something from their gift shop. {I couldn't.] They > have a web presence at: www.everythingprehistoric.com/ > > Oh, "Stan" is larger than "Sue"; it is the largest and most complete > male t-rex in the world! > > In near-by Rapid City, there is The Journey Museum. It illustrates and > contains 2.5 billion years of history and culture of the Black Hills. > They say it is a "journey" and I will say it is certainly a "trip". > After giving due attention to the geological exhibits, I spent an hour > and a half with one of the volunteers, Mr Charles Starbuck, viewing and > discussing likes and differences of the Eastern and Western native > cultures. What a fascinating and cultured gentleman! His in depth > knowledge was superb. Among many things, we discussed the trade routes > from the very ancient of time(s), which developed this land through its > many transitions. I was shown the stages of development of the local > peoples and the land they call sacred. As we talked, compared and > shared our knowledge it was like adding new stanzas to the song which > the land sings to those who listen. As in our personal lives, all the > stanzas are not the happiest and there are "Trails of Tears" both east > and west of the Mississippi. > > This trip with grandchildren, though it repeats a similar trip a decade > ago with another set of grands, has brought together the "rock hound" > [geologist] granddaughter, the "bone hunter" [paleontologist] grandson, > and the "cultural historian" [archaeologist] grandparent. Something for > everyone .... well, almost .... but then the parents do support "all of > the above". <roar> > > [To be Continuted] > e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk > in peace and harmony) > > Wado, > > > Bill > -=- > > PostScript: > > = = = = > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    06/23/2004 04:58:46
    1. Little Egypt Heritage, 20 June 2004, Vol 2 #23
    2. Bill
    3. Little Egypt Heritage Articles Stories of Southern Illinois (c) Bill Oliver 20 June 2004 Vol 3 Issue: #23 ISBN: pending Osiyo, Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of Little Egypt, When I was growing up in the South, there was an oft used term of endearment -- "Grandmother" So-'n-So. These were the elders of families and/or the community and it was the "respectful" term to use. In Southern Illinois, where my Father spent his beginning years, it was shortened a bit to the more familiar term, "Grandma", but it carried the same meaning. I remember Grandma Oliver using the term to refer to my Great Great Grandmother. It was always "Grandma Whittenberg" this and "Grandma Whittenberg" that. Grandma Whittenberg apparently was the matriarch who sat outside on the cabin porch rocking in a chair, shelling peas and watching the young children. She also told the "old" stories some of which have been passed down through Grandma Oliver to us "young'uns". Grandma Oliver always said she wanted to live longer than Grandma Whittenberg. Well, she managed to do just that ... by about twenty years. It is most difficult to hear the tone of voice in the written word. However, I cannot but help hear that reverent tone whenever I read the term -- "Grandmother" So-'n-So. So it is when other words pass before my eyes in reading. "Elder" is such a word, used both as a title in many churches and as a position within a culture. It denotes wisdom [earned or otherwise]. There is something else which happens with such words as Elder or Grandmother. It is the way they are put together which hints at cultural recognition. That which makes one feel as if being addressed by a brethren of the spirit, if not blood. It is what makes me feel a part of a group because they say that they are [or act that if they thought that they are] something, then they are that something. It is much like the saying, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, then it is a duck." While traveling in South Dakota last week, we stopped and ate at a diner named Doo-wah- Ditty's. We loved reading their menu. There were some claims about them and their service which we enjoyed very much. They said about their menu: "You'll notice that unlike other restaurants, we have no pictures of food. That's because we believe our customers can read." They continued about their staff: "We have 33 waitresses on staff, 27 know what they're doing, 5 are new, and one is in a real bad mood. Good Luck!" About the famous they tauted: "No President of the United States admits to visiting this site." For supper, our granddaughter insisted, as only a five year old can, on oat-meal with a scoop of ice cream. The young waitress giggled and said to us, "I was just like that." Now for those who think it strange to put a scoop of ice cream in your bowl of oatmeal; the ice cream serves as adding in cream, in-addition, it serves as the sweetener, and it helps to cool it. It wasn't this grandparent who taught her that. <roar> A fossil is any evidence of ancient life. It might be the actual part of something that lived a long time ago. Our grandson, at eight years, envisions himself as a paleontologist. Now, we have visited the Field Museum in Chicago, where we saw a dinosaur named "Sue" and other ancient bones. Thus, we stopped in Hill City, South Dakota because they tauted a set of bones named "Stan". Folks, if you are interested in such things, let me tell you that the Black Hills Institute of Geological Research, Inc. in Hill City beats the Field Museum hands down. There were more lessons to be learned in that one room than one can imagine. And, it doesn't cost you a "red cent", if you can resist walking out without purchasing something from their gift shop. {I couldn't.] They have a web presence at: www.everythingprehistoric.com/ Oh, "Stan" is larger than "Sue"; it is the largest and most complete male t-rex in the world! In near-by Rapid City, there is The Journey Museum. It illustrates and contains 2.5 billion years of history and culture of the Black Hills. They say it is a "journey" and I will say it is certainly a "trip". After giving due attention to the geological exhibits, I spent an hour and a half with one of the volunteers, Mr Charles Starbuck, viewing and discussing likes and differences of the Eastern and Western native cultures. What a fascinating and cultured gentleman! His in depth knowledge was superb. Among many things, we discussed the trade routes from the very ancient of time(s), which developed this land through its many transitions. I was shown the stages of development of the local peoples and the land they call sacred. As we talked, compared and shared our knowledge it was like adding new stanzas to the song which the land sings to those who listen. As in our personal lives, all the stanzas are not the happiest and there are "Trails of Tears" both east and west of the Mississippi. This trip with grandchildren, though it repeats a similar trip a decade ago with another set of grands, has brought together the "rock hound" [geologist] granddaughter, the "bone hunter" [paleontologist] grandson, and the "cultural historian" [archaeologist] grandparent. Something for everyone .... well, almost .... but then the parents do support "all of the above". <roar> [To be Continuted] e-la-di-e-das-di ha-wi nv-wa-do-hi-ya nv-wa-to-hi-ya-da. (May you walk in peace and harmony) Wado, Bill -=- PostScript: = = = = http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SOIL http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILMASSAC http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/state/BillsArticles/LittleEgypt/intro.html

    06/20/2004 03:25:03
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Thomas
    3. Her son Jesse Veril MOODY died in Los Angeles County, CA in 1980. Maybe she died in CA? Who was your g-grandfather? Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody > What I'm looking for is perhaps an obit that would show just where she > died. (Anna was a sister to my great grandfather). She was buried at > Oakland about 10 days after her death which leads me to believe she > probably died out of state, esp since I cannot locate her in the State > of IL Death Index. I'm trying to track down her descendants through her > children. Carol > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    06/16/2004 05:55:17
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Thomas
    3. Anna was born 21 Sep 1879 and died 26 Oct 1943. Her husband Thomas C. MOODY was born 25 Feb 1880 and died 1 Dec 1965. They were buried at Oakland cemetery in Carbondale Twp. Yu can see them listed with two children in the Jan 1920 census 4-Ward, Carbondale, family 87. What information are yuo seeking? Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody > Tom: Yes, that is the correct Anna. Carol > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/16/2004 05:22:53
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Carol Garbo
    3. Jessie died in CA; perhaps she was visiting him when she died. That could explain the 10 day delay between death and burial. Wonder who her daughter (Burrel) married? My maternal great-grandfather was Augustus (Gus) Trobaugh. Carol

    06/16/2004 05:03:40
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Carol Garbo
    3. What I'm looking for is perhaps an obit that would show just where she died. (Anna was a sister to my great grandfather). She was buried at Oakland about 10 days after her death which leads me to believe she probably died out of state, esp since I cannot locate her in the State of IL Death Index. I'm trying to track down her descendants through her children. Carol

    06/16/2004 04:30:46
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Thomas
    3. Are you referring to the Anna who married Thomas C. MOODY? Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Garbo" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:00 PM Subject: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody > List Members: I may have posted a similar message some time ago. > However, this is still a brick wall with no dents at all, so I'm posting > again. IF anyone has ANY info regarding Anna Trobaugh Moody, please > contact me. Thank you for any help. Carol > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > PLEASE NOTE: Posting of items of RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL CONTENT, VIRUSES WARNINGS, CHAIN LETTERS, or SPAM will result in being removed from the list. If you have any questions regarding this, contact the list administrator, mailto:[email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    06/16/2004 03:56:32
    1. RE: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Carol Garbo
    3. Velda: Anna was b. abt. 187; md to Thomas Moody on 7 Dec. 1899; d. 26 Oct. 1943. Carol

    06/16/2004 03:44:44
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Carol Garbo
    3. Tom: Yes, that is the correct Anna. Carol

    06/16/2004 03:41:16
    1. RE: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Velda Moore
    3. Do you have any kind of time frame? Velda Moore 3 Forest Court Chester, IL 62233 phone: 618-826-4169 [email protected] [email protected] http://www.larrett.com/velda/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ -----Original Message----- From: Carol Garbo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ILJACKSON] Trobaugh/Moody List Members: I may have posted a similar message some time ago. However, this is still a brick wall with no dents at all, so I'm posting again. IF anyone has ANY info regarding Anna Trobaugh Moody, please contact me. Thank you for any help. Carol ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== PLEASE NOTE: Posting of items of RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL CONTENT, VIRUSES WARNINGS, CHAIN LETTERS, or SPAM will result in being removed from the list. If you have any questions regarding this, contact the list administrator, mailto:[email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    06/16/2004 02:40:04
    1. Trobaugh/Moody
    2. Carol Garbo
    3. List Members: I may have posted a similar message some time ago. However, this is still a brick wall with no dents at all, so I'm posting again. IF anyone has ANY info regarding Anna Trobaugh Moody, please contact me. Thank you for any help. Carol

    06/16/2004 09:00:45
    1. RE: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C
    2. Velda Moore
    3. I found James Bilderback's FATHER'S will. He was Andrew McCormick. Do you want one? Velda Moore 3 Forest Court Chester, IL 62233 phone: 618-826-4169 [email protected] [email protected] http://www.larrett.com/velda/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ -----Original Message----- From: Randy Crain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 6:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C Velda, James Bilderback and William are the brothers of Elizabeth McConnell, the former Elizabeth Bilderback Crain. She married Cuthbert S Crain first in Randolph Co, in 1837. He was the son of Benjamin Crain. When Cuthbert died she married Moses McConnell. I also know James was in Dunklin Co, MO in the 1870 census and Moses McConnell died at his house there in 1867. He moved to Missouri in 1861. I am trying to trace him form 1850 to 1860. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Velda Moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:51 PM Subject: RE: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C > I see James Bilderback in hte household of Moses McCormack, 30, M, Farmer. > James was 27 and also a farmer, born in IL. William Bilderback was 13. > There is not much else in this census. They were family #887. > > Velda Moore > 3 Forest Court > Chester, IL 62233 > phone: 618-826-4169 > [email protected] > [email protected] > http://www.larrett.com/velda/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Crain [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C > > > I am looking for any information on who these two might be. > > BILDERBACK, JAMES C ROBERTS, LODOSKIA > 02/25/1855 / JACKSON > > I have a James Bilderback that I know was in either Jackson or Randolph > County until after 1860. He moved to Dunklin County, MO in 1861. He is in > the 1870 census of that county with 3 children but no wife. I have not found > him in the 1860 census yet. > > Thanks > Randy Crain > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Do you have a resource you could share with the list members? Would you be > willing to do some "lookups" for a limited time period? If you would, > please let the members know. Thank you! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== List Administrator mailto:[email protected] List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    06/15/2004 02:41:31
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] newspaper obituaries
    2. Juli Claussen
    3. Joyce, The IL State Historical Library in Sprinfield has a large newspaper archive and a large obit file. They will also search for obits if they don't already have them in their file, and will send out copies. You are limited to 2 obits per request, and they charge a fee. I know it is quite low for IL residents; not sure for others. Just do a google search on IL State Historical Library Newspapers and you will come up with their web page with all the info. As an alternative, I have access to a fairly good collection of Southern IL newspaper archives at Morris Library at SIU, and to the Murphysboro papers at the Jackson Co. Historical Society, and I am available to do obit searches for a small fee. I live between C'dale and M'boro. I also will take grave marker photos as a RAOGK volunteer. If you are interested in this, just contact me off-list. Regards, Juli Claussen

    06/15/2004 09:10:09
    1. RE: [ILJACKSON] newspaper obituaries
    2. Joyce Hennessy
    3. Hi Carol, Thank you so much for responding. I don't have a specific name in front of me right now, but when I rec'd (hopefully a good answer) I was going to compile a list. There are many, many descendants buried in Oakland Cemetery, some in Williamson Co - Pleasant Hill Cemetery, in Makanda - Zion and Evergreen (are they one and the same cemetery)?, also in Snider to name some of them. Some of the surnames are McDaniel, Hankla, Bloodworth to name a few. So, any info you can give me would be most appreciated. Joyce McDaniel Hennessy -----Original Message----- From: Carol Illig [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] newspaper obituaries who's obituary are you searching for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Hennessy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] newspaper obituaries > Hi Jackson Co. List, > > > > Could anyone tell me the proper place to write for newspaper obits from the > late 1900's to the present. Thank you very much and happy researching to > all. > > > > Joyce McDaniel Hennessy > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the future. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== HAVE YOU INVESTIGATED THE LIST ARCHIVES YET??http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILJACKSO-L http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILJACKSO-L/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    06/15/2004 08:19:43
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] newspaper obituaries
    2. Carol Illig
    3. who's obituary are you searching for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Hennessy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: [ILJACKSON] newspaper obituaries > Hi Jackson Co. List, > > > > Could anyone tell me the proper place to write for newspaper obits from the > late 1900's to the present. Thank you very much and happy researching to > all. > > > > Joyce McDaniel Hennessy > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > Please remember when replying to a query REPLY TO THE LIST so your message goes out to the entire list. This will ensure that the information is archived, which may be of help to someone else in the future. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/15/2004 05:49:19
    1. newspaper obituaries
    2. Joyce Hennessy
    3. Hi Jackson Co. List, Could anyone tell me the proper place to write for newspaper obits from the late 1900's to the present. Thank you very much and happy researching to all. Joyce McDaniel Hennessy

    06/15/2004 05:05:20
    1. MARY ELLEN BRAY - OBITUARY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Gg.2ADI/356 Message Board Post: The Sun, San Bernardino, CA - Tuesday, June 15, 2004 MARY ELLEN BRAY, 85, a 58-year resident of Colton (CA) passed away June 9, 2004 in Redlands, CA. She was born in Carbondale, IL and was a homemaker for 60 years. She is survived by Robert & Ruth Bray, Alan & Zenaida Bray, Richard & Linda Bray, three grandchildren: Richard Jr., Bryan and Diana; brother John David McGuire, sister Jane Deaton and many more family and friends. Services will be held at United Methodist Church in Colton on Friday, June 18th at 11:00 a.m. Followed by burial at Hermosa Cemetery in Colton. NOTE: Submitter is not related in any way to deceased. Obituary provided for genealogical interest only.

    06/15/2004 02:29:30
    1. Re: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C
    2. Thomas
    3. James BILDERBACK is listed in the Sep 1850 census in the home of Moses McCONNELL. This is not an easy record to find, because Moses is listed erroneously as Moses McCORMACK. Family 887 in the Sep 1850 census for Randolph County, Twp 7 South, Range 5 W, consists of: Moses McCORMACK (this should have said McConnell) age 30, b. TN Elizabeth McCORMACK (her maiden name was BILDERBACK) age 29 b. IL Ephraim McCORMACK age 1, b. IL Lydia E. McCORMACK age 2, b. IL Jennett CRANE age 11, b. IL (should have said CRAIN) Sarah CRANE age 9, b. IL (should have said CRAIN) James BILDERBACK age 27, b. IL William BILDERBACK age 13, b. IL Tom Shawcross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Crain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C > Velda, > > James Bilderback and William are the brothers of Elizabeth McConnell, the > former Elizabeth Bilderback Crain. She married Cuthbert S Crain first in > Randolph Co, in 1837. He was the son of Benjamin Crain. When Cuthbert died > she married Moses McConnell. I also know James was in Dunklin Co, MO in the > 1870 census and Moses McConnell died at his house there in 1867. He moved to > Missouri in 1861. > > I am trying to trace him form 1850 to 1860. > > Randy > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Velda Moore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:51 PM > Subject: RE: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C > > > > I see James Bilderback in hte household of Moses McCormack, 30, M, Farmer. > > James was 27 and also a farmer, born in IL. William Bilderback was 13. > > There is not much else in this census. They were family #887. > > > > Velda Moore > > 3 Forest Court > > Chester, IL 62233 > > phone: 618-826-4169 > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > http://www.larrett.com/velda/ > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrcgs/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randy Crain [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:05 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ILJACKSON] Bilderback, James C > > > > > > I am looking for any information on who these two might be. > > > > BILDERBACK, JAMES C ROBERTS, LODOSKIA > > 02/25/1855 / JACKSON > > > > I have a James Bilderback that I know was in either Jackson or Randolph > > County until after 1860. He moved to Dunklin County, MO in 1861. He is in > > the 1870 census of that county with 3 children but no wife. I have not > found > > him in the 1860 census yet. > > > > Thanks > > Randy Crain > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > Do you have a resource you could share with the list members? Would you > be > > willing to do some "lookups" for a limited time period? If you would, > > please let the members know. Thank you! > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ILJACKSO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator mailto:[email protected] > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~illinois/JacksonCoWelcome.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    06/14/2004 02:51:10