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    1. Re: [ILHENRY-L] Clara S. ALLEN
    2. Fred and Jacquie Schattner
    3. I have a little information about an Allen family in Florid, IL. This is a very small town, so I would think they would somehow be related. There is a James ALlen born in about 1815. His children were born in the 1840's in Dauphin County, PA. I do not ave a Clara or a John, but I do have a William, son of James. If you think this might help, e-mail me privately is fine. Jacquie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Kender" <lkender@yahoo.com> To: <ILHENRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: [ILHENRY-L] Clara S. ALLEN > I am also researching ALLENs, but I haven't been able > to get very far. My great-grandmother was Clara S. > ALLEN, born 1859 in Florid (Putnam County), married to > Charles CLARK. They did live in Henry County for some > time. Illinois did not register births (to my > knowledge) in 1859; I have been able to find no record > of their marriage as yet. > > Clara's death certificate states that her parents were > John ALLEN from Germany and Rosa BASHIRE from Florid, > IL. However, I found a census entry from 1860 in > Hennepin, Putnam County for a Wm H. (NY) and Elmira > (PA) ALLEN, who had a girl aged 1/12 named Clara S. > ALLEN living with them (although my Clara should have > been 1 year old by then). I'm not sure if either > piece of information is correct and/or pertains to my > Clara. Would any of you ALLEN researchers have any > mention of Clara? If so, I'd appreciate any > assistance.... > > Thanks - > > Laurie Kender > > > > ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 > > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:24:10 -0600 > > From: "Barbara Hanson" <barb@abia.com> > > To: ILHENRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [ILHENRY-L] Henry county > > realestate/social circles late 19th early 20th > > century > > > > Hi Stephen, > > > > I am researching the Allen family. But I am getting > > nowhere with it. > > My great-grandmother was Anne Ophelia Allen. Anne > > was born June 14, 1864 > > in Henry County. She married my Great-Grandfather > > Frank DeLos Leonard in > > 1892 in Cambridge, Illinois. She died May 3, 1899 > > and is buried in > > Liberty Cemetery. My Grandfather's name was Allen > > Ray Leonard. > > > > I have NO information on Anne Ophelia Allen's > > family. Any information > > on this line would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Allen is a name that is carried on as a middle name > > in my family. > > > > I know of the real estate you are talking about. My > > grandmother lived > > on S. Oakwood. I don't remember exactly the > > number... 608 keeps ringing > > a bell. I lived at 509 N. State St. and went to the > > Grace United > > Methodist Church Kathy mentioned. I wish I could > > help you more with > > your quest, but I can't. It's been fun reading the > > story of your family > > and the information from Kathy Minder. Brought back > > some memories of > > growing up in Geneseo. > > > > Good luck with your search. > > > > Barbara Sand Hanson > > barb@abia.com > > > > Researching: SAND, LEONARD, ALLEN, CURTIS, WIESE, > > LIDTKE (and various > > spellings), RINGLE, LOOMIS, HUMPHREY > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blukat@qconline.com > > [mailto:blukat@qconline.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:07 AM > > To: ILHENRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ILHENRY-L] Henry county > > realestate/social circles late > > 19th early 20th century > > > > > > Hi, Stephen, > > > > I live at 622 S. Oakwood Ave. in Geneseo and I can > > assure you the > > house on Oakwood is still there. Its isn't that > > large, a small frame > > home, probably two bedrooms upstairs, and one down. > > Nice yard, and a > > wonderful family with a couple of children live > > there. As far as the > > one on N. State St., addresses may have changed > > since there is a > > newer home in that block, so the address may have > > been moved to 329. > > There IS a brick home at that address and the one > > with the correct > > address is next door, its a very large frame home > > made into an > > apartment house. Behind the brick house, now owned > > by Jim and > > Michelle Glazier, is the Grace United Methodist > > Church. > > Also, I think the cottages you mentioned may have > > been on the Rock > > River, not Creek. Many people in the area have > > cottages at Shady > > Beach or Indian Mounds on the Rock River about 6-8 > > miles north of > > Geneseo. There were Allens in Geneseo when I was > > growing up, and I > > think, (I can check when I get home) a Mr. Allen > > owned the property > > where my home is. > > Mrs. Phyllis Allen lives on Park St., and I think my > > sixth grade > > teacher was Miss Morrow. Doris Morrow was a well > > respected teacher > > and historian at the Geneseo Library until her > > death. > > Let me know if any of this is what you're looking > > for and if I can be > > of assistance further. > > > > Kathy Minder > > 622 S. Oakwood Ave. > > Geneseo, IL 61254 > > > > researching : alphabetically: > > Breen, Curran, Edwards, Egert, Johnson, Minder, > > Walter(s), Yackley > > > > > I have a question regarding real estate that I am > > hoping someone > > may be able to help. My > > Allen family line lived in Atkinson and Geneseo from > > 1866 until mid > > 1930's and may still > > have unknown cousins there. > > > Family lore is that they owned very expensive > > homes, along with > > cottages on Rock Creek. In > > 1930 my great great grandfather John Allen had a 4 > > bedroom brick > > house listed worth > > $10,000 at 325 N. State Street and his brother > > Andrew Allen and wife > > Dana Burton lived at > > 602 Oakwood with a house value of $4500. I have side > > photos of the > > one on State Street and > > their is a building that looks like a big church or > > hall next to it. > > Are these buildings > > still standing? I tried to do a check online and > > came up with nothing. > > > Would those prices be normal or above average? I > > have been arguing > > that they were nice but > > not mansions. Other family members insist that they > > were extremely > > large. Per my mother, > > the Allen family had quite a bit of money until the > > depression and > > John Allen loaned it > > out and never got repayed as no one had the money > > during the > > depression. My mother claims > > she saw one suitcase filled to the top with checks > > he had written and > > that the family had > > gotten this wealth from the invention of certain > > farm equipment. My > > Great Great > > Grandmother and Great Grandmother both claimed to > > have gone to > > Augustana College in the > > 1880's and 1920's and my great grandmother had one > > of the first cars > > in the area. She also > > toured with Miller's All Girl Band. > > > One of my reasons I wonder is that I do not see > > the Allen family > > mentioned in any of the > > county guides and I am not finding anyone else > > researching them. From > > what documented > > sources I dont see them as being outstanding. Did > > Geneseo have a > > large social scene during > > the late 1800's early 1900's? > > > Any info appreciated. During the depression my > > great grandmother > > became quite embarrased > > of her family accumulations and I do know per her > > that they hid alot > > of items and photos > > as they didnt want to appear snobby and hurt other > > peoples feeling > > (we found her secret > > stache when she died) and if I even thought about > > being overly proud > > about anything I > > would get THE lecture. > > > Best wishes to all...Stephen > > > Researching in Henry County: > > > direct lines: MORROW, ALLEN, HAMILTON, STEELE, > > LUTHER, HOOVER > > > via marriage: BURTON, PRITCHARD, HARBROUGH > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILHENRY Mailing List ==== > --------------------- ILHENRY-L Mailing List --------------------- > Please support the Henry County Genealogical Society by becoming a member > and purchasing their publications. They have been VERY GENEROUS with > their time and contributions to this list and the Henry Co ILGenWeb Project! >

    01/16/2003 09:34:46
    1. Re: [ILHENRY-L] Clara S. ALLEN
    2. Jan Roggy
    3. I found this in the 1885 Portrait & Biographical Album of Henry Co., IL. I don't know if it's what you're looking for or not. pg 672: John H. Allen, druggist at Cambridge, was born Feb. 9, 1843, in Shelbyville, Ind. In ancestral descent he is of Scotch-Irish origin, his earliest progenitor having been that race. His grandfather, Isaac Allen, came from Scotland to Virginia, and settled there and raised a family. One of them, John Allen, born in 1805, removed thence to Shelby County, Ind., where he married to Martha Higbee. She was a native of the State of Kentucky, and was of German descent. Six of their nine children are now living. In the spring of 1850 John Allen removed his family to Mason Co., Ill., settling in Havana, where the lives of his parents terminated. Mr. Allen, of this sketch, was educated in Havana, and at the opening of the Rebellion enlisted in the 11th Ill., Cav., and served four years in the army. Since that time he has been engaged in different mercantile pursuits, for the last eight years of which he has been engaged in the drug business, having been engaged in that business six years in Ipava, this State, and two years in Cambridge. The marriage of Mr. Allen to Lovina Marty took place at Havana, Ill., and their children are named Emma A., Mattie E., Hattie F., Clara M. and Eugene W. Mr. Allen is a Republican in political views and a member of the A.O.U.W. and Masonic Order. Fred and Jacquie Schattner wrote: > I have a little information about an Allen family in Florid, IL. This is a > very small town, so I would think they would somehow be related. There is a > James ALlen born in about 1815. His children were born in the 1840's in > Dauphin County, PA. I do not ave a Clara or a John, but I do have a > William, son of James. If you think this might help, e-mail me privately is > fine. > > Jacquie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurie Kender" <lkender@yahoo.com> > To: <ILHENRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:56 AM > Subject: [ILHENRY-L] Clara S. ALLEN > > > I am also researching ALLENs, but I haven't been able > > to get very far. My great-grandmother was Clara S. > > ALLEN, born 1859 in Florid (Putnam County), married to > > Charles CLARK. They did live in Henry County for some > > time. Illinois did not register births (to my > > knowledge) in 1859; I have been able to find no record > > of their marriage as yet. > > > > Clara's death certificate states that her parents were > > John ALLEN from Germany and Rosa BASHIRE from Florid, > > IL. However, I found a census entry from 1860 in > > Hennepin, Putnam County for a Wm H. (NY) and Elmira > > (PA) ALLEN, who had a girl aged 1/12 named Clara S. > > ALLEN living with them (although my Clara should have > > been 1 year old by then). I'm not sure if either > > piece of information is correct and/or pertains to my > > Clara. Would any of you ALLEN researchers have any > > mention of Clara? If so, I'd appreciate any > > assistance.... > > > > Thanks - > > > > Laurie Kender > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 > > > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:24:10 -0600 > > > From: "Barbara Hanson" <barb@abia.com> > > > To: ILHENRY-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: RE: [ILHENRY-L] Henry county > > > realestate/social circles late 19th early 20th > > > century > > > > > > Hi Stephen, > > > > > > I am researching the Allen family. But I am getting > > > nowhere with it. > > > My great-grandmother was Anne Ophelia Allen. Anne > > > was born June 14, 1864 > > > in Henry County. She married my Great-Grandfather > > > Frank DeLos Leonard in > > > 1892 in Cambridge, Illinois. She died May 3, 1899 > > > and is buried in > > > Liberty Cemetery. My Grandfather's name was Allen > > > Ray Leonard. > > > > > > I have NO information on Anne Ophelia Allen's > > > family. Any information > > > on this line would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Allen is a name that is carried on as a middle name > > > in my family. > > > > > > I know of the real estate you are talking about. My > > > grandmother lived > > > on S. Oakwood. I don't remember exactly the > > > number... 608 keeps ringing > > > a bell. I lived at 509 N. State St. and went to the > > > Grace United > > > Methodist Church Kathy mentioned. I wish I could > > > help you more with > > > your quest, but I can't. It's been fun reading the > > > story of your family > > > and the information from Kathy Minder. Brought back > > > some memories of > > > growing up in Geneseo. > > > > > > Good luck with your search. > > > > > > Barbara Sand Hanson > > > barb@abia.com > > > > > > Researching: SAND, LEONARD, ALLEN, CURTIS, WIESE, > > > LIDTKE (and various > > > spellings), RINGLE, LOOMIS, HUMPHREY > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: blukat@qconline.com > > > [mailto:blukat@qconline.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:07 AM > > > To: ILHENRY-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ILHENRY-L] Henry county > > > realestate/social circles late > > > 19th early 20th century > > > > > > > > > Hi, Stephen, > > > > > > I live at 622 S. Oakwood Ave. in Geneseo and I can > > > assure you the > > > house on Oakwood is still there. Its isn't that > > > large, a small frame > > > home, probably two bedrooms upstairs, and one down. > > > Nice yard, and a > > > wonderful family with a couple of children live > > > there. As far as the > > > one on N. State St., addresses may have changed > > > since there is a > > > newer home in that block, so the address may have > > > been moved to 329. > > > There IS a brick home at that address and the one > > > with the correct > > > address is next door, its a very large frame home > > > made into an > > > apartment house. Behind the brick house, now owned > > > by Jim and > > > Michelle Glazier, is the Grace United Methodist > > > Church. > > > Also, I think the cottages you mentioned may have > > > been on the Rock > > > River, not Creek. Many people in the area have > > > cottages at Shady > > > Beach or Indian Mounds on the Rock River about 6-8 > > > miles north of > > > Geneseo. There were Allens in Geneseo when I was > > > growing up, and I > > > think, (I can check when I get home) a Mr. Allen > > > owned the property > > > where my home is. > > > Mrs. Phyllis Allen lives on Park St., and I think my > > > sixth grade > > > teacher was Miss Morrow. Doris Morrow was a well > > > respected teacher > > > and historian at the Geneseo Library until her > > > death. > > > Let me know if any of this is what you're looking > > > for and if I can be > > > of assistance further. > > > > > > Kathy Minder > > > 622 S. Oakwood Ave. > > > Geneseo, IL 61254 > > > > > > researching : alphabetically: > > > Breen, Curran, Edwards, Egert, Johnson, Minder, > > > Walter(s), Yackley > > > > > > > I have a question regarding real estate that I am > > > hoping someone > > > may be able to help. My > > > Allen family line lived in Atkinson and Geneseo from > > > 1866 until mid > > > 1930's and may still > > > have unknown cousins there. > > > > Family lore is that they owned very expensive > > > homes, along with > > > cottages on Rock Creek. In > > > 1930 my great great grandfather John Allen had a 4 > > > bedroom brick > > > house listed worth > > > $10,000 at 325 N. State Street and his brother > > > Andrew Allen and wife > > > Dana Burton lived at > > > 602 Oakwood with a house value of $4500. I have side > > > photos of the > > > one on State Street and > > > their is a building that looks like a big church or > > > hall next to it. > > > Are these buildings > > > still standing? I tried to do a check online and > > > came up with nothing. > > > > Would those prices be normal or above average? I > > > have been arguing > > > that they were nice but > > > not mansions. Other family members insist that they > > > were extremely > > > large. Per my mother, > > > the Allen family had quite a bit of money until the > > > depression and > > > John Allen loaned it > > > out and never got repayed as no one had the money > > > during the > > > depression. My mother claims > > > she saw one suitcase filled to the top with checks > > > he had written and > > > that the family had > > > gotten this wealth from the invention of certain > > > farm equipment. My > > > Great Great > > > Grandmother and Great Grandmother both claimed to > > > have gone to > > > Augustana College in the > > > 1880's and 1920's and my great grandmother had one > > > of the first cars > > > in the area. She also > > > toured with Miller's All Girl Band. > > > > One of my reasons I wonder is that I do not see > > > the Allen family > > > mentioned in any of the > > > county guides and I am not finding anyone else > > > researching them. From > > > what documented > > > sources I dont see them as being outstanding. Did > > > Geneseo have a > > > large social scene during > > > the late 1800's early 1900's? > > > > Any info appreciated. During the depression my > > > great grandmother > > > became quite embarrased > > > of her family accumulations and I do know per her > > > that they hid alot > > > of items and photos > > > as they didnt want to appear snobby and hurt other > > > peoples feeling > > > (we found her secret > > > stache when she died) and if I even thought about > > > being overly proud > > > about anything I > > > would get THE lecture. > > > > Best wishes to all...Stephen > > > > Researching in Henry County: > > > > direct lines: MORROW, ALLEN, HAMILTON, STEELE, > > > LUTHER, HOOVER > > > > via marriage: BURTON, PRITCHARD, HARBROUGH > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== ILHENRY Mailing List ==== > > --------------------- ILHENRY-L Mailing List --------------------- > > Please support the Henry County Genealogical Society by becoming a member > > and purchasing their publications. They have been VERY GENEROUS with > > their time and contributions to this list and the Henry Co ILGenWeb > Project! > > > > ==== ILHENRY Mailing List ==== > --------------------- ILHENRY-L Mailing List --------------------- > Visit the Henry County Genealogical Society's Home Page!! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhcgs/index.html

    01/17/2003 12:57:25