Diana, I am working on the same family of LUTHERs. George Barthel LUTHER is my GGGG grandfather. I do not have George Peter's death date either. I have been able to get information on 9 generation of Luthers in America. I have much information on those deceased and living. I also am in contact with my 6th cousins in California who are researching the Luthers. Also have been in contact with the LUTHER House museum in Deerfield, Il. >From all my research I show your ancestor as being referred to as Peter and mine as George. I do know the LUTHERS all had "Saint" First names and went by their middle names. The cousin in CA said that their was some sort of family scandal that divided the lines. I have not got the information on that yet. I do have photos of my line starting with George Barthels daughter, Caroline in 1857 and one that may be George himself (We are not sure if it is him or Caroline's brother) we had them of two of her sisters but they were the glass type and exploded one day. I do have one major fact difference than what I can see on some other websites. I do not show the family coming to the US on the Schooner Harmony on Dec 31, 1820? I have looked endlessly for that ship and no luck I did come across this information: Also in this information it shows Johann Jacob's wife as Louisa Landering not Louisa Sanders. The Luther's were traveling with the Landerings/Paeters and I wonder if the ships captain confused Saunders with Launderings or if there was a change somewhere. Jacob Luther found in: Passenger and Immigration Lists: New York, 1820-1850 Age: 33 Gender: M Occupation: Schoemaker Port of Departure: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Country of Origin: Limback Country of Destination: United States of America Ship Name: Ship Juffraw Johanna Port of Arrival: New York Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1821 Microfilm Serial Number: M237 Microfilm Roll Number: 2 List Number: 332 Jacob Luther found in: Passenger and Immigration Index, 1500s-1900s Place: New York, NY Year: 1821 Age: 33 Primary immigrant: Luther, Jacob Permanent entry number: 868824 Accession number: 8562847 Source publication code: 6572 Source publication page number: 336 Source publication: "PASSENGERS FROM GERMANIA to the United States, 1821-1823." In Germanic Genealogist, no. 14 (1978), pp. 335-345; no. 22 (1981), pp. 244-245. Source annotation: Intended date and port of arrival. Origins: mostly German, all from regions east of the Rhine and north of the Danube. Names of ships sometimes mentioned. Source: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index Jacob Luther found in: Passenger and Immigration Index, 1500s-1900s Place: New York, NY Year: 1821 Age: 33 Primary immigrant: Luther, Jacob Permanent entry number: 2495575 Accession number: 8562846 Source publication code: 9268 Source publication page number: 1 Source publication: UNITED STATES. DEPARTMENT OF STATE. Passengers Who Arrived in the United States, September 1821 - December 1823. Indexed. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1969. (Available from Tuttle, Rutland, VT.) Source annotation: Derived from transcripts made by the State Department from National Archives records. Includes immigrants of many origins. Few names from the end of 1821 through 1823 (documents lost). Pages 1-357 list names; pages 359-427 provide an index of vessels and persons. Source: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index Jacob Luther found in: Passenger and Immigration Lists: New York, 1820-1850 Age: 6 Gender: M Port of Departure: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Country of Origin: Limback Country of Destination: United States of America Ship Name: Ship Juffraw Johanna Port of Arrival: New York Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1821 Microfilm Serial Number: M237 Microfilm Roll Number: 2 List Number: 332 George Luther found in: Passenger and Immigration Lists: New York, 1820-1850 Age: 5 Gender: M Port of Departure: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Country of Origin: Limback Country of Destination: United States of America Ship Name: Ship Juffraw Johanna Port of Arrival: New York Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1821 Microfilm Serial Number: M237 Microfilm Roll Number: 2 List Number: 332 Peter Luther found in: Passenger and Immigration Lists: New York, 1820-1850 Age: 3 Gender: M Port of Departure: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Country of Origin: Limback Country of Destination: United States of America Ship Name: Ship Juffraw Johanna Port of Arrival: New York Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1821 Microfilm Serial Number: M237 Microfilm Roll Number: 2 List Number: 332 Magdalena Luther found in: Passenger and Immigration Lists: New York, 1820-1850 Age: 1 Gender: F Port of Departure: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Country of Origin: Limback Country of Destination: United States of America Ship Name: Ship Juffraw Johanna Port of Arrival: New York Date of Arrival: Oct 16, 1821 Microfilm Serial Number: M237 Microfilm Roll Number: 2 List Number: 332 And I found this information: Dutch Ship Juffraw Johanna Port of Embarktion: Amsterdam Port of Arrival: New York Date of Arrival: October 16, 1821 Master of Ship: John Groll Film M237, Roll 2, Number 332 Jacob Luther, age 33, Shoemaker, from Limbach wife - Louisa Landering, age 27, from Munster children - Jacob Luther, age 6, from Limbach George Luther, age 5, from Limbach Peter Luther, age 3, from Limbach Magdalena Luther, age 1, from Limbach Adam Paeter, age 34, famer and weaver, from Schonbach wife - Wilhemina Landering, age 26, from Otweilder children - Chaterina Paeter, age 13, Limbach Louisa Paeter, age 11, from Limbach Elizabeth Paeter, age 9, from Homburg Jacob Paeter, age 1, from Limbach Immigrants to America, 1600s-1800s Then I also found this information: Louisa Landering found in: Passenger and Immigration Index, 1500s-1900s Place: New York, NY Year: 1821 Age: 27 Primary immigrant: Landering, Louisa Accompanying family members: 4 children Permanent entry number: 2478272 Accession number: 8663539 Source publication code: 9268 Source publication page number: 1 Source publication: UNITED STATES. DEPARTMENT OF STATE. Passengers Who Arrived in the United States, September 1821 - December 1823. Indexed. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1969. (Available from Tuttle, Rutland, VT.) Source annotation: Derived from transcripts made by the State Department from National Archives records. Includes immigrants of many origins. Few names from the end of 1821 through 1823 (documents lost). Pages 1-357 list names; pages 359-427 provide an index of vessels and persons. Source: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index Diana Davis <ddavis59@sc.rr.com> wrote: Stephen, who are your LUTHERs? I am working on Johann Jacob LUTTER/Louisa Catherine Wilhemina SANDERS' son George Peter who married Mary Elizabeth MILLER. I still haven't found a death date (altho I think it was around 1887) for George Peter. They had children--Sarah, Anna Eliza, Abraham, Catherine Magdalena, Sufrona, Christina, Martin, Franklin, George 'Peter', Atilia Christena, Julia 'Olive', and Charles Ellsworth from 1841-1868. Louisa Landering found in: Passenger and Immigration Index, 1500s-1900s Place: New York, NY Year: 1821 Age: 27 Primary immigrant: Landering, Louisa Accompanying family members: 4 children Permanent entry number: 847088 Accession number: 8663540 Source publication code: 6572 Source publication page number: 336 Source publication: "PASSENGERS FROM GERMANIA to the United States, 1821-1823." In Germanic Genealogist, no. 14 (1978), pp. 335-345; no. 22 (1981), pp. 244-245. Source annotation: Intended date and port of arrival. Origins: mostly German, all from regions east of the Rhine and north of the Danube. Names of ships sometimes mentioned. Source: Passenger and Immigration Lists In Louisa Landering found in: Passenger and Immigration Index, 1500s-1900s Place: New York, NY Year: 1821 Primary immigrant: Landering, Louisa Permanent entry number: 1373499 Accession number: 8663541 Source publication code: 7870 Source publication page number: 149 Source publication: SAMUELSEN, W. DAVID. New York City Passenger List Manifests Index, 1820-1824. North Salt Lake, Utah: Accelerated Indexing Systems International, 1986. 290p. Source: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index Diana Website: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/ NOTE: ddavis@logicsouth.com is no longer valid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baldwin" To: Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:11 AM Subject: [ILHENRY-L] Henry County Records Online > > Jan > Thank you for this information. I was JUST thinking about this today and am at a time in research I need to get several dozen various certificates from Henry County. With all the various sites in Il I was not sure where to start. > I went to the site and I see that it should be no problem to get marriage records or death records. But for birth records of deceased one must be a "Parent, legal guardian or surviving spouse (must have certified death certificate)" > Does anyone know if they will issue birth certificate of deceased to other individuals? I have numerous direct relatives born abt 125 years ago and have been dead for at least 50 years that had no children and currently they only have survivng great great grandchildren or great great grand nephews and nieces. > Also what is the general time for processing and mailing out if you can provide the death and marriage certificate #, volume book etc? I had placed orders with the State Archives for the recent Death Certificate program and the first batch took six months and the second request has not been sent after 8 months. Since the local office we are paying for is it a faster turn around time? > Thank you for any input. (I live in Orlando and never have had a chance to make it up there yet) > Stephen > Researching in Geneseo area: > ALLEN (Northern Ireland >BlackHawk Township, Rock Island County, IL > Atkinson, Henry County, IL, Geneseo Henry County, IL > Fairfield, Wayne County, IL) > MORROW (Westmoreland County, PA, >Geneseo, Henry County, IL > also CA, CO, IO, OK > HAMILTON, STEEL, HANNA (Ireland > Westmoreland County, PA, >Geneseo, Henry County, IL ) > LUTHER (BAYERN > LIVINGSTON NY> Deerfield, LAKE County, IL > Geneseo Henry County, IL > some to CA > Jan Roggy wrote:I was just watching the local news and they were telling that Henry Co., > now has a new website for the county offices in Cambridge. You can now > order vital records online, along with many other things. You can find > it at http://henrycty.com > I checked it out and it looks like it will be very convenient for those > at a distance. Jan > > > ==== ILHENRY Mailing List ==== > --------------------- ILHENRY-L Mailing List --------------------- > Have you visited the Henry Co. ILGenWeb Project Site lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhenry/index.html > > > ==== ILHENRY Mailing List ==== > --------------------- ILHENRY-L Mailing List --------------------- > Visit the Henry County Genealogical Society's Home Page!! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhcgs/index.html > ==== ILHENRY Mailing List ==== --------------------- ILHENRY-L Mailing List --------------------- ILHENRY now has over 150 of the best subscribers in the world!! If each one of you would transcribe just one Henry Co biography or obituary you have in your files, look at the library we would have!!! These may be posted to the GenConnect boards via the links on the Henry County ILGenWeb Project Page