lunarcal wrote: > Hello all: > > I am very frustrated. I too am going into the > relm of a dead end of our family. Yet it is MY mother > daughter connection so I am little stubborn in being given > a no answer. > > A Couple of months ago, I found a record at the Morman family Center > here in Modesto, California. > > IT is a Clergymans' private register, 1857-1887. By B.R. Gifford. He > served in Perishes in Iowa, in Illinois, and in Massachusetts, and > also traveled etensively, preaching sermons and holding services in > many places. > This account CONTAINS record of services, lists of sermons, records of > baptisms, marriages, > confirmations, burials, list of communicants and families. > > This record came as a result of searching for Church records for Henry > County. > > WEll, I was so excited!!!!! The GGG grandmother I am looking for Left > Henry Co. After the > 1860 census...I have record of her married in Henry Co. in 1859. > > The lady at the family center said "Well that record is closed". I > said..."What does that mean?" Well it means that I have to go to > Utah to view the record. And no copies are allowed. If they let me see > it even then! > > So on the print out of the search it stated that the microfilm of > original record is also in St.Pauls > Church, in Natick, Massachusetts. > > So I have contacted them directly and after several back and forth > conversations I am being politly > told that they probably do not have the record. > > Since my geneaology interest and self-education has come as a result > of needing to know my > heritage, I have learned many things about history. > > The call number of this record in Film Area 1290170 item 2. > Author:Gifford, B. R. > The Morman Church copied this record and made the microfilm in > 1987copyright... > > I am in search of this microfilm...I believe it will have what I am > looking for.... > Mr. Gifford was an Episcapol preacher....Which is the religion that I > was babtised in, Yet my > grandmother was the last to be member of that church...Also my ggg > grandmother (shared info with Condreay family not confirmed) gave > birth to her children sorta all over the place..Like she was > traveling for a long time...Her 3 oldest Carolin, Sarrilda (my ggg), > and Walter...I have 1858-1865. > being born (not confirmed) one henry co., one just Illinois and none > on Walter.... Mathew 1863 born Iowa, and Edward Phillip born > 1/24/1868, Jefferson Co. Kansas. > Our Family story is that our immagrant grandmother traveled covered > wagon for some time. So I am thinking that this Preacher traveled or > came accross this group that the Condreay family was with and that the > birth record of the first 3 children is with him. > > Oh yes, forgot to give a name here in case someone else is trying to > make connections. > Family story... > ggg grandmother...from Sweden. Born 1836, Came to Bishop Hill, lost > parents in the trip, > was orphaned....that makes her about 11-14 during the Main Migration > to Bishop hill...(IF she came as a Janssonists)..... > > Fact: Cottarine Olson married Dennis Condreay December 22, 1859 in > Henry Co. The spelling > here is how it reads on the Marriage Certificate. Written in the hand > of the County Clerk for that > period. > I am realizeing that study of the language is going to be > necessary...I have aquired the 1850 census > record for Biship Hill and the numerator states that his account of > the colony was NOT done by him, > that he gave blank sheets to the colony and notes that the only those > willing to be counted are there. > > I did find a Katnier , female, age 14, which could be her..She is > listed with Family number 712 of that record. (Lars Anderson male age > 30 carpenter, spouse not named age 30 female) > > I am still waiting for a death certificate that I ordered from where > she died in 1912 in Lincoln Co, Oaklahoma. HOPEING her parents names > were listed....and or WHERE she was born in Sweden. > > As I find out bits and pieces of the Janssonists...And haveing such a > strong rebelious nature as a young teen myself.....I am open to the > possibility that her parents did not die, that she ran away.... > > My next effort is to search for a possible obit....in Oaklahoma.... > > Wow!!!Could I travel or could I travel!!!!! If asked "What would I do > if I won the Lotto?" I would not hesitate!!!! Librarys and > computers!! What a gift.. > > Erin Anne Rager > > >