Hi Sandy: I find only two possibles for Peter Herbst, none for wife Eliz. or son John Jacob. Peter #1 age - 32 From Germany Arrived Dec.7, 1883 Occ. Farmer ship name: Zaandam Pt. of Emb. Amsterdam Peter #2 Age 19 From Germany Arrived May 6, 1852 Occ. Farmer ship: Minna Pt. of embn. Bremen This is all I find. Doris