Bernie - the only LDS files you can get into online are the Ancestral File, the IGI and the FHLC (card catalog). And be careful using the first two - proofs are lacking throughout. You need to verify everything! You can find their website at: http://www.familysearch.org You can use the FHLC online or on CD at a Family History Center to search for films you need. Then use that film number to actually order the films at a Famly History Center. Mimi Stang