Shawnnee & all; You have touch on something that I found years ago.ie. that the information on death certiicates is only as good as the person who is giving the information, knowledge of the family history. Also while I am at it census information can also be off if data is given by a non family member. I also found an error in ILL. Marirage index a small one but it is there and could throw someone off tract. . It list my Grandmother as Effie Mildred(should be Matilda) COOPER. So much for my soap box. Charlotte Killian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawnnee Ramey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: [ILHANCOC] Tombstones > HI All, > I wanted to share something that happened to me in regards to tombstones. This can be a bit lengthy but important. > > I had 3 cousins in my Crenshaw line who died in California. Ethel Geneva (Crenshaw) Delaney, McCarty, her brother Elmer G. Crenshaw and Ethel's daughter Evelyn (Delaney) Arney. All three had the wrong birth date on their tombstones and their death certificates. > > Ethel's birthdate was October 30, 1874- Death Certificate said October 30, 1879 > Elmer's birthdate was March 06, 1879 - Death Certificate said March 6, 1881 > The problem with these dates is that they were supposedly born the same year, one in March and one in October. Their mother died August 21, 1880 and Elmer was 1 1/2 years old at the time of her death. I have a letter written by my great great grandmother to their mother, Sarah Anna (Bolt) Crenshaw, that probably did not reach them in Lima before she died because it was written August 12, 1880 and mailed August 13, 1880. You have to pay close attention to the birthdate of Ethel, 1874 compared to 1879, It says "have Ethel write us as we miss you all so much. Maybe she could come visit us on a car (I assume a train car as they were not far from the train depot) and I will make her a new dress." If she was born in 1879 and the letter was written in 1880 she would be one year old and not able to write or get on a train and go visit. > Elmer was born in March of 1879 and their father did not re-marry for 10 years after Sarah's death in 1880. He could have been born out of wedlock I suppose, but again going back to the letter from my gg grandmother written in 1880 she states " Kiss Ethel, smack Earl (another brother) and bite Elmer for us. That is how we do it, and hug them all. " > The way the story goes is that Sarah Anna (Annie) and John Crenshaw, took the children and went back to Lima for a visit from Kansas. While they were there Sarah got sick and died 8 days after that letter was mailed. The children were raised by Aunt's and Uncle's until grown. > > Evelyn's birthdate was January 11, 1895 - Death Certificate and SSDI said she was born Jan 11, 1901 It also said she was 77 at the time of death which was (according to her death certificate) Dec 13, 1983, which according to my calculations she would have been 82 years. Her Obituary also said she was 77 years. The 1900 census record for Lima, Adams County, Illinois listed Evelyn at 5 years old born January 1895. If she was born in 1901, she would not have been on the 1900 census record. Her tombstone gives the dates that are on the death certificate. Every census after that gave the exact age she was according to her 1895 birthdate. > > I am going to ammend the death certificates because I have enough evidence to prove the dates are wrong. > > I am telling you all this because I was shocked when I found the dates were wrong so now I do not take everything, including the dates on the tombstones so literal. They are something to go by just like census records, and death certificates. They can all be wrong unless you have proof to back it up. > > Thanks for listening. > Shawnnee > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > Rock Island County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ > >

Shawnnee and all others, Your discoveries are very interesting and provoking in terms of trying to get the facts straight. Although I cannot disclose the actual facts because my father is still living, I am faced with a similar situation. His birth certificate is recorded in Hancock County, Illinois. However, he has told me that he and his brother were both born in St. Joseph Hospital in Keokuk, Lee County, Iowa. Because their uncle was either the doctor who delivered them or involved with the deliveries, he had their births recorded in Illinois. Just a quirk perhaps but something that also adds to the mysteries we deal with in trying to delve into the truths involved with our pasts. Debby

Cozard cemetery in Bear Creek Township http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/cozard.html

Pontoosuc Cemetery in Pontoosuc Township http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/pontoosuc.html Apanoose Cemetery in Appanoose Township http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/Appanoose.html If you have any family or friends buried in these cemeteries and you do not find them on the list please let me know. If you have more information such as dates places of birth and death please let me know. Thank you Shawnnee

HI All, I wanted to share something that happened to me in regards to tombstones. This can be a bit lengthy but important. I had 3 cousins in my Crenshaw line who died in California. Ethel Geneva (Crenshaw) Delaney, McCarty, her brother Elmer G. Crenshaw and Ethel's daughter Evelyn (Delaney) Arney. All three had the wrong birth date on their tombstones and their death certificates. Ethel's birthdate was October 30, 1874- Death Certificate said October 30, 1879 Elmer's birthdate was March 06, 1879 - Death Certificate said March 6, 1881 The problem with these dates is that they were supposedly born the same year, one in March and one in October. Their mother died August 21, 1880 and Elmer was 1 1/2 years old at the time of her death. I have a letter written by my great great grandmother to their mother, Sarah Anna (Bolt) Crenshaw, that probably did not reach them in Lima before she died because it was written August 12, 1880 and mailed August 13, 1880. You have to pay close attention to the birthdate of Ethel, 1874 compared to 1879, It says "have Ethel write us as we miss you all so much. Maybe she could come visit us on a car (I assume a train car as they were not far from the train depot) and I will make her a new dress." If she was born in 1879 and the letter was written in 1880 she would be one year old and not able to write or get on a train and go visit. Elmer was born in March of 1879 and their father did not re-marry for 10 years after Sarah's death in 1880. He could have been born out of wedlock I suppose, but again going back to the letter from my gg grandmother written in 1880 she states " Kiss Ethel, smack Earl (another brother) and bite Elmer for us. That is how we do it, and hug them all. " The way the story goes is that Sarah Anna (Annie) and John Crenshaw, took the children and went back to Lima for a visit from Kansas. While they were there Sarah got sick and died 8 days after that letter was mailed. The children were raised by Aunt's and Uncle's until grown. Evelyn's birthdate was January 11, 1895 - Death Certificate and SSDI said she was born Jan 11, 1901 It also said she was 77 at the time of death which was (according to her death certificate) Dec 13, 1983, which according to my calculations she would have been 82 years. Her Obituary also said she was 77 years. The 1900 census record for Lima, Adams County, Illinois listed Evelyn at 5 years old born January 1895. If she was born in 1901, she would not have been on the 1900 census record. Her tombstone gives the dates that are on the death certificate. Every census after that gave the exact age she was according to her 1895 birthdate. I am going to ammend the death certificates because I have enough evidence to prove the dates are wrong. I am telling you all this because I was shocked when I found the dates were wrong so now I do not take everything, including the dates on the tombstones so literal. They are something to go by just like census records, and death certificates. They can all be wrong unless you have proof to back it up. Thanks for listening. Shawnnee

Another suggestion. The Daily Gate City, which is in Keokuk, also covers Nauvoo news.

The newspaper in Carthage, the county seat, might have carried the obit, too. Hancock County Journal-Pilot. It may have been the Hancock County Journal at that time. I don't recall the date when they became the Journal-Pilot.

The Nauvoo Newspaper is "Nauvoo Independent" for most years but it may have been the "Grapevine" or something like that for part of the time. You can check by going to the newspaper archives in Springfield. I have done it but don't have time to go find the site right now so can't quote it exactly. Good Luck. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kale Hobbes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:15 AM Subject: [ILHANCOC] Nauvoo burial? ATKINSON, Robert Henry 1962 > > Hello, Everyone: > > Unsure if first post went through, trying again -- sorry if it repeats. > > Robert Henry ATKINSON > born 19 AUG 1882 St Marys, Middlesex CO, ON, CAN > marr 19 MAR 1908 East Nissouri, Oxford CO, ON, CAN > died 12 NOV 1962 and was buried in Nauvoo, but I do not know what cemetery. > > Would anyone know the local newspaper(s) that would cover the area of > Nauvoo? > > Thanks > Kale Hobbes > Alberta, Canada > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > Rock Island County Coordinator > >

Hello, Everyone: Unsure if first post went through, trying again -- sorry if it repeats. Robert Henry ATKINSON born 19 AUG 1882 St Marys, Middlesex CO, ON, CAN marr 19 MAR 1908 East Nissouri, Oxford CO, ON, CAN died 12 NOV 1962 and was buried in Nauvoo, but I do not know what cemetery. Would anyone know the local newspaper(s) that would cover the area of Nauvoo? Thanks Kale Hobbes Alberta, Canada _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines

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Hi Shawnee, I am interested in your Ursula Thompson from Indiana. You didn't mention dates. I have Thompson's that came from Indiana to Hancock Co.. John Thompson b abt 1795 KY d. 8 Oct 1872 married on 24 Dec Jackson Co., Holland Indiana to Elizabeth Langley b 1808 KY died 22 Dec 1861 Fountain Green Hancock Co IL. Their second child Philander married Sarah J. Yetter on 8 Sept 1859. I don't know when they moved from Indiana, but I believe it was between 1840 and 1850. I think Elizabeth's mother (Fanny Langley) was said to have lived with her when she died, but I haven't found a gravesite for her or an obit. Donna Langley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawnnee Ramey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [ILHANCOC] Burial data..... Dear Elva, Thank you so much for your informationon my list of unknown burials in Hancock County. This helps in a tremendous way. I would dearly love to talk to Leo. It sounds to me like he needs to get tape recorderand start talking. We may be related as I have many Kimbrough is in my line, some of them married into my Haggard line, some of the married my Hintons, and others were children of so my aunts and uncles. I also have Earls in my family from Hancock County but I don't know if Luther is one of my relatives or not. I do have information on Luther that I still need to get online. My John E. Earls was born in New York and his son Gilbert married Ursula Thompson from Indiana, then after she died he married Minerva Jackson. I think I have some Kimbrough's from Hancock County but at this time I would have to check each and every one of them, to see which ones were in Hancock County. It may take me a few days to get this on the Internet as I am working on the cemetery right now but as soon as I am finished with this cemetery I will put that information online. Does Leo live in Warsaw? Where do you live? I live in California but was raised in Hancock in Adams County Illinois. If you would like any more information on the family mentioned, let me know and I will see if I have any of your given names. Again I thank you Shawnnee ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:12 PM Subject: [ILHANCOC] Burial data..... > Shawnee....I sent your Unknown Burials list to my cousin, Leo Kimbrough. He > has been researching families since the early 1960's. He has researched many > cemeteries and I was sure he would be able to tell me where some of these > ancestors were buried. I will enclose excerpts from his letter to me dated March > 16, 2004. Bear in mind that Leo will be 83 in August of this year. > > "The Fannie Festus Earls, died May 7, 1978 in the Montebello Nursing Home in > Hamilton. She was married to Wadsworth I. Earls. She was the daughter of Kit > Koontz and Sarah Frances Kimbrough Koontz and is buried with her husband in > Moss Ridge cemetery in Carthage." > > "Fannie's half sister, Elizabeth Phylena Earls, 1883-1949, was married to > Luther B. Earls who was run over by a train in 1920. He was a brother to Waddie. > Phylena's maiden name was Briley." > > "The Ross Earls listed here is a son of Fannie. He was a house painter. He > is buried in Moss Ridge cemetery." > > "Now the Kimbrough's, William and Rebecca. They are buried in the Old Brick > Cemetery which is located in Carthage Township, Section 35. Rebecca is the > daughter of Tamer Preston. Tamer is buried in the Harmony Cemetery. I found > her stone early on but when I was there in 1995 it was no where to be found. > The Joel and Thomas listed with her are her sons. Thomas is in Harmony > Cemetery, but his stone is lying on the bround and broken across the middle." > > "Joel Preston is in his own cemetery whis is located in Section 6, St. Mary > Township. To get there enter the township from the four corners on the west > and between sections 6 and 7, go a short quarter mile east, cross a small bridge > and up a slight grade, then look to the left, the cemetery is about a block > north of the road. This cemetery has not had a fence around it in 60 or 70 > years that I can account for." > > "Eve Martha Tucker is a daughter of Tamer Preston. She is also located in > Harmony. She and Ben have a large red stone to the right and near the center of > the cemetery." > > He continues: "I should know where Ernest Ancelet is buried, but I can't > remember.His mothers house is one block east of me (Warsaw, Ill.) where she lived > with her two daughters. Ernest's small farm is just south of the fair > grounds." > > Leo was my Mother's first cousin. My Mother was Marie White Carle. I found > Leo about 3 years ago and he has been furnishing me with mounds of data that > he has collected over 40 years of research. He did all of his research the > "old-fashioned" way. By crossing and re-crossing the United States on his > vacations to visit our ancestors as soon as he had a lead. He has at one time or > another talked to our ancestors of the times that they traveled by covered > wagons. I feel he was so lucky to have been able to talk to these peoples about > their travels and the hardships they endured. Most of us do not have the > opportunity that he did of talking to them to garner bits of our history. > > Leo is a delight to talk with and his memory is phenominal! > > I hope this helps all in some small way. > > Sincerely, > Elva Carle Haughey > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > Rock Island County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ > ______________________________

Agnes Elmettie Earls, 1858-1914, joined Middle Creek PBC in April 1891 Mahlon Ballard Earls, 1849-1916, joined Middle Creek PBC in April 1891 Frank L. Kimbrough, joined Middle Creek PBC in Dec 1902 Ollie Kimbrough, joined Middle Creek PBC in Dec 1902 William and Susan Kimbrough joined Middle Creek PBC in July 1840 and Oct 1840 respectively William and Rebecca Kimbrough joined Middle Creek PBC in Oct 1867 and Nov 1867 respectively Minerva A. Kimbrough, 1825-1874, joined Middle Creek PBC in Aug 1859 James Kimbrough also a member (date not found) Margaret Kimbrough also a member (date not found) Hattie Michaels Kimbrough, 1877-1963, joined Middle Creek PBC in Oct 1928 Thanks for telling us that William and Rebecca Kimbrough were buried at Old Brick. Their names don't appear in the lists I've seen. I've met Leo Kimbrough, and have a few notes he shared with a relative of mine on the Jones family. It would be good if he could share his material with the historical society now, while he is able to explain it to them, and help them sort it. Just an idea. I'm not related to any of the above people but just have them in our database which contains about 48,000 names of members of PBC's (started working on this database in about 1986). Robert http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/pbl.html ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

On Thursday, March 25, 2004, at 09:34 PM, Shawnnee Ramey wrote: > > I also have Earls in my family from Hancock County but I don't know if > Luther is one of my relatives or not. I do have information on Luther > that > I still need to get online. My John E. Earls was born in New York and > his > son Gilbert married Ursula Thompson from Indiana, then after she died > he > married Minerva Jackson. > Shawnee, Luther Earls is my distant cousin. His family comes from Floyd County, Virginia. I haven't found any relation of these Earls to the John Earls from New York. Ancestors of Luther B. Earls Generation No. 1 1. Luther B. Earls, born 08 August 1880 in Floyd, Floyd, VA; died 16 May 1920 Near Carthage, Prairie Twn., Hancock, IL. He was the son of 2. John Wesley Earles and 3. Rhoda Caroline Lester. He married Elizabeth Phylena Briley Kimbrough 30 November 1902 in Illinois. She was born 14 January 1883 in Near Carthage, Hancock, IL, and died 12 December 1949 in St. Joseph Hosp., Keokuk, Iowa. She was the daughter of Thomas James Briley and Sarah Frances Kimbrough. Generation No. 2 2. John Wesley Earles, born 1853 in --, Floyd, VA; died 06 January 1931 in Carthage Twn., Hancock, IL. He was the son of 4. Gordon Cloyd Earles and 5. Julian Elizabeth Turman. He married 3. Rhoda Caroline Lester 16 November 1879 in --, Floyd, VA. 3. Rhoda Caroline Lester, born 1848 in Floyd Co, VA; died 10 February 1926 in Carthage Twn., Hancock, IL. She was the daughter of 6. Fleming W. Lester and 7. Permelia Ann O'Bryan. I am descended from Gordon Cloyd Earles' brother, Henry Harrison Earles. For some reason, several families moved to Hancock County in the mid 1800s. Gordon's brother, William H. Earles moved to the Middle Creek area. Then John Wesley moved bringing some of his children. Some families from Floyd Co. are the Hurts, Earls, Lesters, and Cravens. I don't have info on all these people, just know they moved to the area. My own great-grandfather, Charles E. Earls, son of Henry H., lived there for a short period abt 1910, but my great-grandmother died, Matilda Hurt Earls, and he moved. Will write more later. Since Luther is not a direct ancestor, I don't have a whole lot of info on this side of the family. Others on this list probably have more.... Paula Earls [email protected]

I finished Pontoosuc Cemetery today and tried to get another one finished but it is not quite there. I still have to look in the census, Marriage records and death records and then alphabetize it then it will be online tomorrow. Here is Pontoosuc http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/pontoosuc.html If you have relatives or friends who are buried here and have more information as far as dates and places please let me know. Thanks Shawnnee

Shawnee....Yes, Leo does live in Warsaw and has for many years. He loves to talk genealogy. One name can trigger him to remember anecdote after another about almost any name you can give him. Like I said his memory is phenominal. Leo's parents were Oliver Clone and Velva Marie Starr Kimbrough. His wife is Virginia Happs Kimbrough. She was born in Warsaw and graduated high school there. I have hundreds, literally hundreds of Kimbrough's in my file. I use the Personal Ancestry File that I downloaded from the Family Search website. I love it as it is so easy to use. My data base is quite extensive, not only with the names on Mother's side of the family but on my Father's side also. So whip a name on me! :-) I probably have someone by that surname. :--) I would love to exchange data with you at some point in time. I know that you are very busy with the cemetery lists. As a matter of fact, I have been copying off the cemetery lists for Leo also. I have a binder that I am keeping them all in for myself and I mail them to Leo and he is thrilled to have them. He has been studying them very carefully. I live in Northern California in a little place called Magalia. It is in the foothills above Chico, California. Chico is only about a 25 minute drive from my home. Where do you live? I believe that Leo will be donating all of his data and pictures to the Hancock County Historical Society at his passing. He and I have discussed this many times. He wants to share what he has. At one time he told me he had over 2,500 copies of pictures in his files. He taught himself to take pictures of the old pictures that he found in his searching. Sometimes he would see a picture on a wall and tell the people that he knew who that was. Startled they would then open up and tell him all he wanted to know and allow him to take pictures of their pictures. I did contact the Historical Society and Kathleen Burnett wrote back that he needed to put in writting what his wishes were. She did not express an interest in going to talk to him though. I believe that if someone would do that they would find that he is a font of information. Some of his stories about people are very funny while others are sad. He remembers the night that, I believe his name was Fred Gillenwater, shot and killed a young woman and Leo's father taking a gun with him to help find the man. Leo is just full of stories about the "olden" days. I loved hearing from you and would like to hear from you again as you have the time. Elva Carle Haughey

Dear Elva, Thank you so much for your informationon my list of unknown burials in Hancock County. This helps in a tremendous way. I would dearly love to talk to Leo. It sounds to me like he needs to get tape recorderand start talking. We may be related as I have many Kimbrough is in my line, some of them married into my Haggard line, some of the married my Hintons, and others were children of so my aunts and uncles. I also have Earls in my family from Hancock County but I don't know if Luther is one of my relatives or not. I do have information on Luther that I still need to get online. My John E. Earls was born in New York and his son Gilbert married Ursula Thompson from Indiana, then after she died he married Minerva Jackson. I think I have some Kimbrough's from Hancock County but at this time I would have to check each and every one of them, to see which ones were in Hancock County. It may take me a few days to get this on the Internet as I am working on the cemetery right now but as soon as I am finished with this cemetery I will put that information online. Does Leo live in Warsaw? Where do you live? I live in California but was raised in Hancock in Adams County Illinois. If you would like any more information on the family mentioned, let me know and I will see if I have any of your given names. Again I thank you Shawnnee ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:12 PM Subject: [ILHANCOC] Burial data..... > Shawnee....I sent your Unknown Burials list to my cousin, Leo Kimbrough. He > has been researching families since the early 1960's. He has researched many > cemeteries and I was sure he would be able to tell me where some of these > ancestors were buried. I will enclose excerpts from his letter to me dated March > 16, 2004. Bear in mind that Leo will be 83 in August of this year. > > "The Fannie Festus Earls, died May 7, 1978 in the Montebello Nursing Home in > Hamilton. She was married to Wadsworth I. Earls. She was the daughter of Kit > Koontz and Sarah Frances Kimbrough Koontz and is buried with her husband in > Moss Ridge cemetery in Carthage." > > "Fannie's half sister, Elizabeth Phylena Earls, 1883-1949, was married to > Luther B. Earls who was run over by a train in 1920. He was a brother to Waddie. > Phylena's maiden name was Briley." > > "The Ross Earls listed here is a son of Fannie. He was a house painter. He > is buried in Moss Ridge cemetery." > > "Now the Kimbrough's, William and Rebecca. They are buried in the Old Brick > Cemetery which is located in Carthage Township, Section 35. Rebecca is the > daughter of Tamer Preston. Tamer is buried in the Harmony Cemetery. I found > her stone early on but when I was there in 1995 it was no where to be found. > The Joel and Thomas listed with her are her sons. Thomas is in Harmony > Cemetery, but his stone is lying on the bround and broken across the middle." > > "Joel Preston is in his own cemetery whis is located in Section 6, St. Mary > Township. To get there enter the township from the four corners on the west > and between sections 6 and 7, go a short quarter mile east, cross a small bridge > and up a slight grade, then look to the left, the cemetery is about a block > north of the road. This cemetery has not had a fence around it in 60 or 70 > years that I can account for." > > "Eve Martha Tucker is a daughter of Tamer Preston. She is also located in > Harmony. She and Ben have a large red stone to the right and near the center of > the cemetery." > > He continues: "I should know where Ernest Ancelet is buried, but I can't > remember.His mothers house is one block east of me (Warsaw, Ill.) where she lived > with her two daughters. Ernest's small farm is just south of the fair > grounds." > > Leo was my Mother's first cousin. My Mother was Marie White Carle. I found > Leo about 3 years ago and he has been furnishing me with mounds of data that > he has collected over 40 years of research. He did all of his research the > "old-fashioned" way. By crossing and re-crossing the United States on his > vacations to visit our ancestors as soon as he had a lead. He has at one time or > another talked to our ancestors of the times that they traveled by covered > wagons. I feel he was so lucky to have been able to talk to these peoples about > their travels and the hardships they endured. Most of us do not have the > opportunity that he did of talking to them to garner bits of our history. > > Leo is a delight to talk with and his memory is phenominal! > > I hope this helps all in some small way. > > Sincerely, > Elva Carle Haughey > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > Rock Island County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ >

Shawnee....I sent your Unknown Burials list to my cousin, Leo Kimbrough. He has been researching families since the early 1960's. He has researched many cemeteries and I was sure he would be able to tell me where some of these ancestors were buried. I will enclose excerpts from his letter to me dated March 16, 2004. Bear in mind that Leo will be 83 in August of this year. "The Fannie Festus Earls, died May 7, 1978 in the Montebello Nursing Home in Hamilton. She was married to Wadsworth I. Earls. She was the daughter of Kit Koontz and Sarah Frances Kimbrough Koontz and is buried with her husband in Moss Ridge cemetery in Carthage." "Fannie's half sister, Elizabeth Phylena Earls, 1883-1949, was married to Luther B. Earls who was run over by a train in 1920. He was a brother to Waddie. Phylena's maiden name was Briley." "The Ross Earls listed here is a son of Fannie. He was a house painter. He is buried in Moss Ridge cemetery." "Now the Kimbrough's, William and Rebecca. They are buried in the Old Brick Cemetery which is located in Carthage Township, Section 35. Rebecca is the daughter of Tamer Preston. Tamer is buried in the Harmony Cemetery. I found her stone early on but when I was there in 1995 it was no where to be found. The Joel and Thomas listed with her are her sons. Thomas is in Harmony Cemetery, but his stone is lying on the bround and broken across the middle." "Joel Preston is in his own cemetery whis is located in Section 6, St. Mary Township. To get there enter the township from the four corners on the west and between sections 6 and 7, go a short quarter mile east, cross a small bridge and up a slight grade, then look to the left, the cemetery is about a block north of the road. This cemetery has not had a fence around it in 60 or 70 years that I can account for." "Eve Martha Tucker is a daughter of Tamer Preston. She is also located in Harmony. She and Ben have a large red stone to the right and near the center of the cemetery." He continues: "I should know where Ernest Ancelet is buried, but I can't remember.His mothers house is one block east of me (Warsaw, Ill.) where she lived with her two daughters. Ernest's small farm is just south of the fair grounds." Leo was my Mother's first cousin. My Mother was Marie White Carle. I found Leo about 3 years ago and he has been furnishing me with mounds of data that he has collected over 40 years of research. He did all of his research the "old-fashioned" way. By crossing and re-crossing the United States on his vacations to visit our ancestors as soon as he had a lead. He has at one time or another talked to our ancestors of the times that they traveled by covered wagons. I feel he was so lucky to have been able to talk to these peoples about their travels and the hardships they endured. Most of us do not have the opportunity that he did of talking to them to garner bits of our history. Leo is a delight to talk with and his memory is phenominal! I hope this helps all in some small way. Sincerely, Elva Carle Haughey

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