Hi, I measured the dimensions of Old Brick Cemetery (the part that is fenced) this afternoon. It is, as the deed says, 20 poles (a pole is the same as a rod) by 8 poles (330 feet by 132 feet), which is exactly one acre. However, there is actually another half acre, not fenced, joining this acre on the east, which also belongs to Carthage township, as part of the cemetery, unless they have sold it. I've made copies of the deeds relating to all the transfers involving the cemetery that I am aware of, recently, from the records in the courthouse here in Carthage. There is an old tree down in the cemetery on the south side, and the fence is down on the north side in one place, and there are places that need dirt filled in. If the photo turned out, I will share (tomorrow) a picture of the spot where the old brick church stood. There has been some serious discussion of having a painting made of the old church, since it was the first church organized (and the building was the first house of worship erected) in Hancock county. I am hoping that will be done in the near future. More later, Robert ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

In a message dated 4/20/04 3:18:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I have the same problem going > on in Licking Co. Ohio. at Old Freedonia Cemetery .and > it is no ones responsibility and no one wants to fix > it..I have contacted the Mayor, City Council and had > communication with the TWP Board in charge of this > Cemetery and they just stop writting after.. It might be worth a try to get the local newspaper interested in the story. Write to them and itemize the steps you have taken; the people you have contacted, etc. Whenever a politician sees his/her name in the paper as doing nothing about a problem, they suddenly drop into third gear for some reason. Try a Google search to find the local newspapers in Licking county. Good luck; my fingers are crossed for you! Ray

Ray, Great idea..my son works for CBS Evening news I had told him about the situation..but neither of us thought about the newspaper..I was thinking along the lines if he were ever in the Licking Co. Area filming..drop by.. The most frustrating thing is the man doing a recording of the cemetery for Genweb wrote a narative about the condition of the area and what needed to be done..I sent his info to all of them..it is not as if I made it up!!! This man was in the area last July and he reported what he found and the difficulty he was having in getting the information. he put it on line at the site..for all to see .My Great Great Grandfather is buried there..and no one can locate his grave due to the condition of the stones, high weeds, trees down and left where they fell.. I contacted the Ohio Cemetery Preservation Society to see if they would take this one on and they must have the co-operation and a request from the TWP to go to work.. I will get on the Newspaper tomorrow and thanks for the idea!! I have kept all the folks I contacted and what they said and dates.. Beverly --- [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 4/20/04 3:18:48 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I have the same problem going > > on in Licking Co. Ohio. at Old Freedonia Cemetery > .and > > it is no ones responsibility and no one wants to > fix > > it..I have contacted the Mayor, City Council and > had > > communication with the TWP Board in charge of this > > Cemetery and they just stop writting after.. > > It might be worth a try to get the local > newspaper interested in the > story. Write to them and itemize the steps you have > taken; the people you have > contacted, etc. Whenever a politician sees his/her > name in the paper as > doing nothing about a problem, they suddenly drop > into third gear for some reason. > Try a Google search to find the local newspapers in > Licking county. Good > luck; my fingers are crossed for you! Ray > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County web site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > Rock Island County web site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

Hi Beverly, We have a great county and list and I think they want to help in any way they can. Hancock County is a beautiful county and they want to keep it that way. I wish I still lived there. Shawnnee ----- Original Message ----- From: "beverly whitehead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > HI! Robert and Shawnnee..I have the same problem going > on in Licking Co. Ohio. at Old Freedonia Cemetery .and > it is no ones responsibility and no one wants to fix > it..I have contacted the Mayor, City Council and had > communication with the TWP Board in charge of this > Cemetery and they just stop writting after.. I offered > to send money to have it cleaned up and mowed and the > stones restored.. If you all get this done in Hancock > Co. Please tell me what you did and I will try > that...The only option I have now is to get in my car > and drive from Texas and hire someone to do the work > and then will probably be fined for cutting someones > grass... I just do not get it!!! > Beverly in Texas > --- Shawnnee <[email protected]> wrote: > > hey that is great. Maybe the website will inspire > > others to send photos and > > maybe get Hancock County beautified LOL > > Shawnnee > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > > > > > > > Someone has already seen it and wanted to go mow > > it. :-) But hasn't got > > > it done yet, and the caretaker had some specific > > instructions on how he > > > wants things done or not done. :-) Maybe this > > photo will serve as the > > > "before" part of a "before and after" before the > > year is over. Let's > > > hope. I'll send the photo to you. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:52:56 -0700 "Shawnnee" > > <[email protected]> > > > writes: > > > > That is ok Robert, I can put the picture online > > and add that comment. > > > > Maybe > > > > someone will see it and want to go mow it LOL. > > > > > > > > Shawnnee > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:44 AM > > > > Subject: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > I was able to take a photo of the Old > > Brick Cemetery (in > > > > the > > > > > southeast part of Carthage township) last > > week, but it has only > > > > been > > > > > mowed once a year in recent times, and the > > caretaker told me that > > > > they > > > > > have intentionally put most of the stones down > > on the ground > > > > because of > > > > > the concern that they might fall on someone. > > For the above > > > > reasons, the > > > > > photo doesn't look much like a cemetery, even > > though there must be > > > > 60 > > > > > burials there. > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > > > > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > > > Hancock County web site: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > > > > Rock Island County web site: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno > > SpeedBand! > > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up > > today! > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > > Rock Island County Coordinator > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ > http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > Rock Island County Coordinator >

HI! Robert and Shawnnee..I have the same problem going on in Licking Co. Ohio. at Old Freedonia Cemetery .and it is no ones responsibility and no one wants to fix it..I have contacted the Mayor, City Council and had communication with the TWP Board in charge of this Cemetery and they just stop writting after.. I offered to send money to have it cleaned up and mowed and the stones restored.. If you all get this done in Hancock Co. Please tell me what you did and I will try that...The only option I have now is to get in my car and drive from Texas and hire someone to do the work and then will probably be fined for cutting someones grass... I just do not get it!!! Beverly in Texas --- Shawnnee <[email protected]> wrote: > hey that is great. Maybe the website will inspire > others to send photos and > maybe get Hancock County beautified LOL > Shawnnee > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > > > > Someone has already seen it and wanted to go mow > it. :-) But hasn't got > > it done yet, and the caretaker had some specific > instructions on how he > > wants things done or not done. :-) Maybe this > photo will serve as the > > "before" part of a "before and after" before the > year is over. Let's > > hope. I'll send the photo to you. > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:52:56 -0700 "Shawnnee" > <[email protected]> > > writes: > > > That is ok Robert, I can put the picture online > and add that comment. > > > Maybe > > > someone will see it and want to go mow it LOL. > > > > > > Shawnnee > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:44 AM > > > Subject: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > I was able to take a photo of the Old > Brick Cemetery (in > > > the > > > > southeast part of Carthage township) last > week, but it has only > > > been > > > > mowed once a year in recent times, and the > caretaker told me that > > > they > > > > have intentionally put most of the stones down > on the ground > > > because of > > > > the concern that they might fall on someone. > For the above > > > reasons, the > > > > photo doesn't look much like a cemetery, even > though there must be > > > 60 > > > > burials there. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > > > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > > Hancock County web site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > > > Rock Island County web site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno > SpeedBand! > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up > today! > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey [email protected] > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > Rock Island County Coordinator > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

I have a Narcissa A. Kimbrough born 1843. My data shows her parents to be Thomas Jethro Kimbrough and Minerva Ann Boston. I also have a list of her siblings. Contact me privately with your mailing address and I will send you what I have. I can try to send a Gedcom, but I never seem to have very good luck doing that. Sincerely Elva Carle Haughey

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Someone has already seen it and wanted to go mow it. :-) But hasn't got it done yet, and the caretaker had some specific instructions on how he wants things done or not done. :-) Maybe this photo will serve as the "before" part of a "before and after" before the year is over. Let's hope. I'll send the photo to you. Robert On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:52:56 -0700 "Shawnnee" <[email protected]> writes: > That is ok Robert, I can put the picture online and add that comment. > Maybe > someone will see it and want to go mow it LOL. > > Shawnnee > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:44 AM > Subject: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > > > > Good morning, > > I was able to take a photo of the Old Brick Cemetery (in > the > > southeast part of Carthage township) last week, but it has only > been > > mowed once a year in recent times, and the caretaker told me that > they > > have intentionally put most of the stones down on the ground > because of > > the concern that they might fall on someone. For the above > reasons, the > > photo doesn't look much like a cemetery, even though there must be > 60 > > burials there. > > Sincerely, > > Robert > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey [email protected] > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > Rock Island County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

hey that is great. Maybe the website will inspire others to send photos and maybe get Hancock County beautified LOL Shawnnee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > Someone has already seen it and wanted to go mow it. :-) But hasn't got > it done yet, and the caretaker had some specific instructions on how he > wants things done or not done. :-) Maybe this photo will serve as the > "before" part of a "before and after" before the year is over. Let's > hope. I'll send the photo to you. > > Robert > > > > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:52:56 -0700 "Shawnnee" <[email protected]> > writes: > > That is ok Robert, I can put the picture online and add that comment. > > Maybe > > someone will see it and want to go mow it LOL. > > > > Shawnnee > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:44 AM > > Subject: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > I was able to take a photo of the Old Brick Cemetery (in > > the > > > southeast part of Carthage township) last week, but it has only > > been > > > mowed once a year in recent times, and the caretaker told me that > > they > > > have intentionally put most of the stones down on the ground > > because of > > > the concern that they might fall on someone. For the above > > reasons, the > > > photo doesn't look much like a cemetery, even though there must be > > 60 > > > burials there. > > > Sincerely, > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > > Hancock County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilhancoc/ > > Rock Island County web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilrockis/ > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey [email protected] >

Good morning, I was able to take a photo of the Old Brick Cemetery (in the southeast part of Carthage township) last week, but it has only been mowed once a year in recent times, and the caretaker told me that they have intentionally put most of the stones down on the ground because of the concern that they might fall on someone. For the above reasons, the photo doesn't look much like a cemetery, even though there must be 60 burials there. Sincerely, Robert

That is ok Robert, I can put the picture online and add that comment. Maybe someone will see it and want to go mow it LOL. Shawnnee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L Webb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:44 AM Subject: [ILHANCOC] Old Brick Cemetery > Good morning, > I was able to take a photo of the Old Brick Cemetery (in the > southeast part of Carthage township) last week, but it has only been > mowed once a year in recent times, and the caretaker told me that they > have intentionally put most of the stones down on the ground because of > the concern that they might fall on someone. For the above reasons, the > photo doesn't look much like a cemetery, even though there must be 60 > burials there. > Sincerely, > Robert > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > List owner Shawnnee Bolt Ramey [email protected] >

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [ILHANCOC] Earls/Kimbrough > I noted the above message that included some Kimbroughs.I > I have a Kimbrough Narcissa Ann as my GGGrandmother but do not know who her > parents or her siblings were, or her exact birth date. Would anyone out there > be able to help me? She is buried in Moss Ridge Cemetery. Her parents were Thomas J. Kimbrough and Minerva Ann Boston. She married Henry Mapes 22-Nov-1866 in Carthage, Hancock Co., Illinois (license # 2417). She was born 17-Sep-1843 in Hancock Co., Illinois and died 25-May-1922 in Graham hospital, Keokuk, Lee Co., Iowa. Her siblings were: John, Margaret, Thomas, James, George, Louisa, Laura, Asa, and Emma. <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bryant/goodies.html> >Narcissa married my GGGrandfather Henry Mapes on November 22, 1966. 1866 not 1966 :-) Ron Bryant Colona, IL

I noted the above message that included some Kimbroughs.I I have a Kimbrough Narcissa Ann as my GGGrandmother but do not know who her parents or her siblings were, or her exact birth date. Would anyone out there be able to help me? I suspect that the Kimbroughs mentioned in the above message are related. I suspect this because Narcissa Ann was born approximately the same time (1843) as some of the individuals mentioned in the message and lived in the same area (Middle Creek). Narcissa married my GGGrandfather Henry Mapes on November 22, 1966. Together they had an infant daughter (Cora Jane) that died at the age of 3 years and is also buried at the old Red Brick Church Cemetery, by the PMC. I appreciate anyone's reply, Don Mapes

Thanks to all the good help on this forum, today I found the Walker cemetery and took several photos. Thanks to all of you. Robert On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:57:42 -0700 "bobert" <[email protected]> writes: > Hi, Seekers: Below website will help you to find cemeteries, etc. > Just > ignore the adverts - I hope this helps you out. I use a site > called > www.epodunk.com to find out where cemeteries and other things are. > It > has info for all the states...very good maps with good > directions/details. > > Shirley: [email protected] > > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > Rock Island County Coordinator > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hi, Seekers: Below website will help you to find cemeteries, etc. Just ignore the adverts - I hope this helps you out. I use a site called www.epodunk.com to find out where cemeteries and other things are. It has info for all the states...very good maps with good directions/details. Shirley: [email protected]

I know this has little to do with family history/genealogy research, but since the question was posed, and NOT answered, here's my attempt. And my credentials are that I am in my 13th year of being a 9-1-1 dispatcher for the largest/busiest Public Safety Answering Point in Oregon. We handled 43,463 9-1-1 calls for March 2004, and 76,493 total calls (other emergency & non emergency). Should you call 9-1-1 to help locate a place or piece of information you're looking for? In a nutshell if it's not a life & death emergency, no. I won't comment on the retired officer's comments other than to say, not all 9-1-1 centers/dispatchers are the same, just as not all police officers are the same. Some agencies may have a non emergency #, and they may be able to give directions to folks. But there are other resources, libraries, schools, county offices, etc., to use instead of 9-1-1. Thanks, Tim

In a message dated 4/15/04 6:44:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Does the 911 system help people on things like this, or do they only > handle emergencies. Robert, I'm wandering dangerously off-topic, but as a retired police officer, I can tell you that the 911 system is the most over-rated bit of technology the 20th century came up with. The fact that you can get a read-out as to where a call is coming from is a fine improvement, but otherwise it's still a switchboard manned by.......well, never mind.

The Hancock County Historical Society has maps and directions to all the cemeteries in Hancock County...... maps with road numbers too! ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert L Webb To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [ILHANCOC] Walker Cemetery, Walker Township Hi, Thank you. I was able to find the webpages you describe, and it should help. My next step will be to find a detailed map of township roads, in order to try to narrow this down to the 911 markings on the county roads. Does the 911 system help people on things like this, or do they only handle emergencies. Hmmm. Robert On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:45:50 EDT [email protected] writes: > In a message dated 4/15/04 3:38:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] > writes: > > > > > Does anyone on the forum know where the Walker Cemetery is > located, > > exactly? > > > Robert, go to Find A Grave , click on "find a cemetery", > then type > in Walker and select Illinois. It brings up several Walker > cemeteries, so > click on the one near Carthage for Hancock county. It will give you > the GPS > coordinates, and also a map that you can zoom in on. Looks like > it's between a > couple of county roads and just west of another one running north > and south. > Good luck. > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > Rock Island County Coordinator > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey Rock Island County Coordinator

Hi, Thank you. I was able to find the webpages you describe, and it should help. My next step will be to find a detailed map of township roads, in order to try to narrow this down to the 911 markings on the county roads. Does the 911 system help people on things like this, or do they only handle emergencies. Hmmm. Robert On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:45:50 EDT [email protected] writes: > In a message dated 4/15/04 3:38:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] > writes: > > > > > Does anyone on the forum know where the Walker Cemetery is > located, > > exactly? > > > Robert, go to Find A Grave , click on "find a cemetery", > then type > in Walker and select Illinois. It brings up several Walker > cemeteries, so > click on the one near Carthage for Hancock county. It will give you > the GPS > coordinates, and also a map that you can zoom in on. Looks like > it's between a > couple of county roads and just west of another one running north > and south. > Good luck. > > > ==== ILHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County Coordinator: Shawnnee Bolt Ramey > Rock Island County Coordinator > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Robert, I'm wandering dangerously off-topic, but as a retired police officer, I can tell you that the 911 system is the most over-rated bit of technology the 20th century came up with. The fact that you can get a read-out as to where a call is coming from is a fine improvement, but otherwise it's still a switchboard manned by.......well, never mind.<< May I say 'THANK YOU' although your retired.