----- Original Message ----- From: PS <catlowspencer@home.com> To: <ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 24 March, 2001 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [ILHAMILT-L] Re: Redferns from their genealogist... > It's interesting because she is buried under Catherine, her divorce only uses > Catherine, and her obituary only uses Catherine. Mariah is a different person. > Peg But that doesn't mean that "Catherine" could not have been a middle name (or vice versa). Who do you have listed for Catherine Oglesby's parents? The only parents possible for Catherine & Charles Oglesby, that I can see, are Jesse & Juliet (Karnes) Oglesby She died at the home of her brother Chas. (#2 obit below). The only parents that Charles & Catherine (Mariah) could possibly belong to are Jesse & Juliet (Karnes) Oglesby. She is buried in Smith Cem. with her brother John Walker who states in his obit he was born in Saline Co (again verifying the 1850 census).. Tracing this family from Saline Co 1850 to Ham Co 1870 census, she is Mariah K(atherine) age 4 in 1850, Mariah C(atherine) age 14 in 1860, and she is "Mariah" age 24 with John L. and her two children Berry and Lucy, and her brother Charles age 18 (he's age 8 with his parents in 1860) lives next door with the John Anderson family in the Ham 1870 census. Mariah Catherine marries John in 1863, files for divorce in Feb 1897, and she dies in 1903 (need to see if devorce was final). From an obit of a younger John Redfearn it says he is s/o John Rredfearn and 1/2 brother of Berry and that he was about 39, indicating a 2nd marr. at about 1899 for John Sr. (or Jr. was illigitimate?). When does your Redfearn researcher say that John Sr. married Anna Pittman?? Could this be the mother of this John Jr.?? In 1901 John Sr. marries Artemissa Darnell. There is a divorce filed in Sept 1903, could possibly be between Artemissa and John?? In 1906 John marries Sally Garvin. Mariah's father, Jesse Oglesby was in Co D of the 6th Calvary from Ham Co and was killed in 1864, 14 months after Mariah married John. The family (Jesse's) is scattered by the 1870 census. Jesse's pention records should have the necessary info to prove who Mariah is. These are the only four marriages I see possible for John Sr., unless I missed some tidbits:-). Again I reiterate my earlier statement that Mariah & Catherine are the same.... but that's just my humble opinion<g>.... I welcome (bring it on:-) any rebuttal.... sigh...Best Regards, Trev ------------------------------- Legacy of Kin: 1) 1900-65 Redfearn, Mrs. John L.; Leader, 22 Mar 1900; b. 08 Feb 1874, near Olga, Ham. Co.; d. 16 Mar. 1900, home in McL. Leaves husband, 3 small ch. (See obit of John L. Redfearn, Times, 16 Mar 1922?). This may be Mariah (last name unknown), wife of John Redfearn. 2) 1903-31 Redfearn, Catherine Oglesby; Times, 18 Jun 1903; aged 7 (sic.) yrs. 07 mo. 05 da.; d. 15 Jun 1903, home of bro. Chas. Oglesby, near Olga. For several years made home with son B.W. Redfern & dau., Mrs. Len Lockwood of St. Louis, Mo. Leaves 2 ch., mother, 3 bro. Interr. Smith Cem., Twigg Twp. (Ham. Co. m #2301; John L. Redfern = Catherine Oglesby 17 Dec 1863. divorce: 1897, file 119-31) (See 1922-74) Could this be an earlier marriage for John Redfearn? 3) 1922-74 Redfearn, John L.; Times, 16 Mar 1922; aged 77 yrs.; d. last Wednesday, Veteran of the Civil War. Interred I.O.O.F., McL. (Ham. Co. m 2301: John L. Redfearn = Catherine Oglesby, 17 Dec 1863 ?) (Divorce: John L. Redfearn vs. M.C. Redfearn; Circuit Court, Sep., 1903; File 1929-31) (Divorce: Anna M. Redfearn vs. John L. Redfearn; Circuit Court, Sep., 1905; File 132-01) (All above divorces ??) See 1900-65; 1903-31)