Shirls, This is majorly helpful. Loads o'info here. Some of the orthography is weird (as usual), e.g., "Leman W." is my grgrandfather Lyman W. MUNSELL. The Phipps info is very helpful - explains the reference to Harry MUNSELL's "minor children" in the probate docs. Thank you sooooo very much for sending this to me. This John MUNSELL from Scotland is a NEW mystery! I'll forward this to the MUNSELL listserv. That will intrigue someone I'm sure. Cordah R On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Shirley Payne wrote: > Cordah, > > Many time in a will or probate, the heirs are the brothers/sisters of the deceased if he had no children. I have not studied the documents to which you have referred, but I have seen others. > > On page 154 if the printed 1860 Hamilton Co. Census, Washington Munsell is listed as a 35-year-old farmer born in IL. He has no other person living in the household. The numbers given are 1138/11l38 > > Living beside him in 1139/1139 are the following: > > MUNSELL, Harry* 43 m Farmer 800 200 NY > Rebecca * 30 f IL > PHIPPS, Susan 14 f IL > James F. 5 m IL > Sarah 12 f IL > *They were married within the year. > The marriage records show that Harry Munsell and Miss Rebecca Phipps were married 29 Jan 1860. The children must be her younger siblings or the Miss is a mistake. Sixteen -year-old Jacob Phipps is working on a farm nearby, too. > > Other Munsells in 1860 Census are as follows: > > p. 108 Dwelling 802/803 > > MUNSELL, Richard 39 farmer 1500 800 NY > Malissa J. 38 IL > Sarah V. 13 IL > Leman W 8 IL > Lucinda E. 6 IL > Francis M. 4 IL > Mary W. 1 IL > > p. 150 Dwelling 1104/1104 > > MUNSELL, Martha 47 farmer 3000 500 TN > Harrison 37 farmer 600 IL > Jackson 25 farmer IL > Jacob 15 IL > Tabitha 14 IL > Sarah V. 12 IL > Rebecca 11 IL > Annis 9 IL > Elizabeth 7 IL > Joseph 6 IL > Samuel 4 IL > > p. 161 Dwellling 1188/1188 > (The dwelling of Ichabod Mitchell ) > Living in the home as a farm laborer is John Munsell age 26 born in Scottland. (spelling in the book) > > By 1870 Richard and Malissa Jane have two more children, James age 8 and John W. age 5. > > Lyman Munnsel age 19 is living in the David McKnabb household and working as a farmer. > > Marthy Munsel is still keeping house for Tobith, Rebecca, Alice, Elizabeth, Joseph, and Samuel. Harrison age 48 and Jackson age 40 are also still there. > > Becca Munsell age 48 is keeping house ofr James age 37 and Setta age 36. All were born in IL > > Hope some of this helps. > > Shirls > Cordah Elizabeth Robinson ISS/UITS Teaching and Learning Technologies Lab IU-Bloomington Ballantine Hall 307 855.7829 http://www.indiana.edu/~tltl/

Cordah, you are right about the orthography of the 1860 Census...it is replete with strangest renderings..at least the transcription is...this may be attributed to the original census taker's use of the phonetic or sounding name and old script handwriting. I have found several errors..one to be careful of is where IN is indicated as state of birth...often this was TN and misread I have found. Barb in SAvannah,GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cordah Elizabeth Robinson" <cordah@indiana.edu> To: <ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:15 PM Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] Re: Look up, etc. : Shirls, : : This is majorly helpful. Loads o'info here. Some of the orthography is : weird (as usual