----- Original Message ----- From: <Thomasecw@aol.com> To: <ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 03 March, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [ILHAMILT-L] Sturmans > Thanks for the offer. The most pressing piece of info I would like to have > are the parents of Sarah Jane STURMAN. I know that her father is "A.M." > and he was born in McCleansboro. I know nothing about her mother. > Siblings of Sarah would be nice as well. >From LOK.... 1898-90 STURMAN, Judge Alexander M.; Leader, 01 Sep 1898; b. 05 Feb 1820, Tenn.; d. 23 Aug 1898, home in McL. Came to ILL., Ham. Co., 1828. Married Miss Louisa Varney, 30 Dec 1840; 9 ch., 8 survive. Built house at Little Prairie, now Dahlgren. married Mrs. Rebecca M. Carpenter, 10 Apr 1876. Moved to McL. in 1891. Interr. Richardson Hill. 1924-90 STURMAN, Josephine; Times, 13 Nov 1924; b. 4 Jan 1848, Dahlgren; d. 08 Nov. 1924; dau. of A. M. & Louisa (Varney- from 1898-90) Sturman. Moved to McL. about 34 years ago. Leaves 2 sis.: Mrs. Sarah Richardson, Altamont, Kan., & Mrs. Mattie Cross, Los Angeles, Calif., Interred I.O.O.F., McL. (See 1873-42; 1898-90) In the five county history book, for the bio of John W. Marshall, it tells this about his children: .....Six of ten children are living: Rebecca (wife of A. M. Sturman, of Dalgren).... This book also states A. M. Sturman was a justice from 1865 to 1869.... Ham Co 1850 Census 416/416 STURMIN, Alexander 31 m Do 800 TN Louiza 30 f SC Wm. L. 8 m IL Sarah J. 7 f IL Julia 5 f IL Josephine 4 f IL Flavius J. 1/12 m IL Ham Co 1860 Census Lovilla P. O. 1222/1222 STURMAN, Alex_r? M. 40 m farmer 7000/1500 TN Louiza 40 f SC William L. 18 m farmer IL Sarah J. 16 f IL Juliett 14 f IL Josephine 12 f IL Josephus 10 m IL John J. 8 m IL Martha M. 6 f IL James B. 3 m IL S. A. Douglass 5/12 m IL McKIMBLY, John 20 m Laborer OH Best Regards, Trev

In a message dated 3/3/01 12:02:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, shirls@hamiltoncom.net writes: << If I can help you with your Sturman research, let me know. I can send the ones buried at Sugar Camp. >> Shirley - Thanks for the offer. The most pressing piece of info I would like to have are the parents of Sarah Jane STURMAN. I know that her father is "A.M." and he was born in McCleansboro. I know nothing about her mother. Siblings of Sarah would be nice as well. Since A.M. STURMAN was a judge in Hamilton County (guessing middle third of the 1800s), that info shouldn't be all that hard to find. Maybe he is the reason there is a "Sturman Street". If you are focused on building that branch, I can certainly supply you with all the RICHARDSON (husband of Sarah Jane) info you can handle. Thanks again for your response. - Tom Wilson

Tom,, Thank you very much for the useful information you sent. At this point, I do not know just how all our area Sturmans are related, but I know they are. Most of them lived in a cluster. and many of the older ones are buried at Sugar Camp Cemetery in Moores Prairie Twp, Jefferson County, IL. Also, thanks for sending information on a possible sister to William who is buried at Sugar Camp. Several male Sturmans were named William, so I have to sort them out by generations. The small town where I live here in Hamilton County has a Sturman Street. If I can help you with your Sturman research, let me know. I can send the ones buried at Sugar Camp. Shirley

The list archives server(s) at RootsWeb with all the past messages seems to be down right now. They have indicated that they are working to get it back up and running. -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn White [mailto:intrees@pacifier.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:21 PM To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ILHAMILT-L] RE: Joseph Franklin Campbell Family.... How are all of you accessing the list . Can we only send , but not view the past messages. -----Original Message----- From: MLJac [mailto:MLJac@qnet.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:25 PM To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] RE: Joseph Franklin Campbell Family.... FLASH.............. Hi Hamilton Co. Cousin's. I have tried so hard to ignore this information for so long, that it is beginning to get on my nerves, so I will now try to make a correction. All of you CAMPBELL researchers, please take note !!! Cora Ponci ??? There is no Cora Ponci, daughter of Joseph Franklin and Eliza E. RAY, CAMPBELL !!! ( I have a note from Harold G. Felty, who was a second cousin of mine who noted that: Cora Pernecy was engaged to be married 2 months before she died.) I have the Family Bible of the Joseph Franklin Campbell family where all of the children are listed on the Birth Page. Joseph Franklin Campbell was my GG Grandfather. When he died the Bible was passes on to my GGrandfather, Alfred Dallas CAMPBELL, he passed it on to my Grandmother, Eliza May (Ina) Campbell, and she left it to me. The first entry in the Bible on the Birth page is " Pernecy Cora Campbell was born January the 17th in the year 1851." ( Brother John, 2nd child of JFC was born in 1853.) To make this CAMPBELL researcher happy, please change your records. Mary Lou Over the years, I have received records on the other children in this family. Many have inaccuracies in the vitals. If you are interested in the correct information from this Bible, let me know, and I will respond to you privately. ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@home.com --------------------------------------------------------- Visit Misty Flannigan's Hamilton County, Illinois Genealogy Resource Page at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5807/ ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@home.com --------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by the RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative. Please help support Rootsweb: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

How are all of you accessing the list . Can we only send , but not view the past messages. -----Original Message----- From: MLJac [mailto:MLJac@qnet.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:25 PM To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] RE: Joseph Franklin Campbell Family.... FLASH.............. Hi Hamilton Co. Cousin's. I have tried so hard to ignore this information for so long, that it is beginning to get on my nerves, so I will now try to make a correction. All of you CAMPBELL researchers, please take note !!! Cora Ponci ??? There is no Cora Ponci, daughter of Joseph Franklin and Eliza E. RAY, CAMPBELL !!! ( I have a note from Harold G. Felty, who was a second cousin of mine who noted that: Cora Pernecy was engaged to be married 2 months before she died.) I have the Family Bible of the Joseph Franklin Campbell family where all of the children are listed on the Birth Page. Joseph Franklin Campbell was my GG Grandfather. When he died the Bible was passes on to my GGrandfather, Alfred Dallas CAMPBELL, he passed it on to my Grandmother, Eliza May (Ina) Campbell, and she left it to me. The first entry in the Bible on the Birth page is " Pernecy Cora Campbell was born January the 17th in the year 1851." ( Brother John, 2nd child of JFC was born in 1853.) To make this CAMPBELL researcher happy, please change your records. Mary Lou Over the years, I have received records on the other children in this family. Many have inaccuracies in the vitals. If you are interested in the correct information from this Bible, let me know, and I will respond to you privately. ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@home.com --------------------------------------------------------- Visit Misty Flannigan's Hamilton County, Illinois Genealogy Resource Page at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5807/

FLASH.............. Hi Hamilton Co. Cousin's. I have tried so hard to ignore this information for so long, that it is beginning to get on my nerves, so I will now try to make a correction. All of you CAMPBELL researchers, please take note !!! Cora Ponci ??? There is no Cora Ponci, daughter of Joseph Franklin and Eliza E. RAY, CAMPBELL !!! ( I have a note from Harold G. Felty, who was a second cousin of mine who noted that: Cora Pernecy was engaged to be married 2 months before she died.) I have the Family Bible of the Joseph Franklin Campbell family where all of the children are listed on the Birth Page. Joseph Franklin Campbell was my GG Grandfather. When he died the Bible was passes on to my GGrandfather, Alfred Dallas CAMPBELL, he passed it on to my Grandmother, Eliza May (Ina) Campbell, and she left it to me. The first entry in the Bible on the Birth page is " Pernecy Cora Campbell was born January the 17th in the year 1851." ( Brother John, 2nd child of JFC was born in 1853.) To make this CAMPBELL researcher happy, please change your records. Mary Lou Over the years, I have received records on the other children in this family. Many have inaccuracies in the vitals. If you are interested in the correct information from this Bible, let me know, and I will respond to you privately.

Shirley - I have an Elizabeth STURMAN (b. about 1790-1795 in VA just across the border from Chatham County, North Carolina...don't know the exact county... just the area). She married William TILLMAN about 1817. She could be a brother of your William STURMAN. If we were playing "battleship", that would be close. Re STURMANs in Illinois....I have an A.M. Sturman (born in McLeansboro, Illinois) father of Sarah Jane STURMAN (b. about 1840) who married (Nov 4, 1864 in FCI) John Merritt RICHARDSON (b. Dec 15, 1837 in FCI). 7 children. I know very little about their descendants. Sarah and John are my aunt and uncle. Any connections? - Tom Wilson Boca Raton, FL

Thanks to all that replied with Misty's e addy...I've had contact with her. The site is up and running currently. It apparently had the "hiccups" for a shortwhile yesterday. Thanks, Barb in Savannah,GA ^ ^ (@ @ ) =o= \ | | \ m m n \9 ~O&:>

Misty Flannigan's "Hamilton County, IL Genealogy Resource Page" seems to be down. Does anyone have her private E and/or know how to contact her and find out if she knows her site is off line and when it will be back up ? Thanks,Barb in Savannah,GA ^ ^ (@ @ ) =o= \ | | \ m m n \9 ~O&:>

Rella Heard married Lee Ellis Sanders 1 Dec 1928 in Jefferson County. Box 127, #300, I did not find a divorce from Mr. Sanders nor a marriage for Rella and Dale McDaniels. Shirls

Hi, I've recently discovered my lineage from John K. "Cajetan" Ayd, who was one of the leaders of a group of immigrants in 1841 from Baden, Germany. I'm descended from his daughter Catherine Ayd who was born in Hamilton County in 1843/44 and moved with Cajetan and a group of pioneers to Minnesota in 1854. I'd be interested to find more information on the Ayd family. Is anyone researching the Ayd/Aydt family in Hamilton County? If so, please contact me. Thanks, Ken Weber

Hi All, I visited the Bethel Cemetery last fall to pay my respect to my Ggrandmother Janette (Nettie) Trotter Wilkey. She was born 1868 and died 1894. She married Steve Wilkey. If anyone has info on her I would love to hear from you. My family names are Waller, Ingram, Wilkey, and Lampley. Thanks Phyl

Carolyn I found rootsweb is up and down and, some sites work while others do not. What they did was: maintenance of its servers and hosting process. Believe me, this is NOT an easy task. Their 'servers' look like a Grand Canyon and your pc look like a pebble next to it. Don't know about you all but, I am having withdrawals!!! ha! Dianna Carolyn White wrote: > > Does anyone know when rootsweb will be back ? Only certain things seem to > work. I didn't know it was going to be gone for so long. > > ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@home.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Search the ILHAMILT-L archives

I was having email list withdrawal. *Laughing* Gale d1anna wrote: > Carolyn > > I found rootsweb is up and down and, some sites work while others > do not. > > What they did was: > maintenance of its servers and hosting process. > > Believe me, this is NOT an easy task. Their 'servers' look > like a Grand Canyon and your pc look like a pebble next to it. > > Don't know about you all but, I am having withdrawals!!! ha! > > Dianna > > Carolyn White wrote: > > > > Does anyone know when rootsweb will be back ? Only certain things seem to > > work. I didn't know it was going to be gone for so long. > > > > ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== > > Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@home.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Search the ILHAMILT-L archives > > ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@home.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Visit Misty Flannigan's Hamilton County, Illinois Genealogy Resource Page at: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5807/

Does anyone know when rootsweb will be back ? Only certain things seem to work. I didn't know it was going to be gone for so long.

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Does anyone have information on Etta WILLIAMS and Martin STURMAN They lived in the Dahlgren, Hamilton County, Il area in the late 1800 and up until 1930-40's Pauline GRAY Dale STURMAN were also related

Information on Frances Marion BOYER 10-20-1861 FCI 10-24-1944 married 12-24-1888 Kansas City, Mo Martha PATTON 2-11-1869 HCI 4-24-1901 They are buried in Macedonia Cemetery What about their Children Other marriages for both

Does anyone on the list know the parents of William Sturman (28 Feb 1786-25 Oct 1887) b. VA. What county? He married Sarah "Sally" Dabney(1 July 1792-5 Oct 1865) b. NC. Who are her parents and when/where did Wm. and Sally marry? Both are buried at Sugar Camp Cemetery in Moores Prairie Twp,Jefferson Co., IL Thanks, Shirls

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5807/ That biography along with all others from that book can be found here. -Misty- ----- Original Message ----- From: "York, Chris - CPS" <CYORK@LTCPS.com> To: <ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] 1887 History > In the index of the 1887 county history, I couldn't help but notice a > biography for Garrison, T.J. listed. Does anyone have a copy of the book? > This man's biography is much desired by myself, as he was my great-great > grandfather. Any help would be appreciated. > > > ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@home.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Search the ILHAMILT-L archives > ------------------------------ > Interactive search: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILHAMILT-L > Threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ILHAMILT-L/ > > >