Does anyone have information on this family Daniel D. KING who married Martha HUTSON/HUDOSN Daniel born early 1830 Ohio and died 2-9-1886 and the story is that they were returning from Alton area and he died enroute in Jersey Co Il Martha born 7-25-1832 Tn and died 3-9-1905 in Hamilton Co Il, and is buried Sugar Camp Cemetery Jef Co Il. WHo were her parents.
> Yes, these Phipps did come from Sumner Co., TN. I'm thinking Henrietta was related to William Phipps through his son William, who died shortly after marriage, though I have yet to prove it. She was born in 1804 before William died. She may have been taken in by James and Mary or other Phipps family members, as she named her second son James. She married at the same time as Lock Phipps children did. Levi's military pension papers stated some of the information. She is buried in the Wooldridge Family Cemetery in Lasater/Crook Twp., Hamilton Co., IL. Peg Spencer
In a message dated 3/15/02 3:01:54 PM, ILHAMILT-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Levi Wooldridge married Henrietta Sarah Phipps in Jan 1820 in White, later Hamilton Co., IL. >> Does anyone know who the parents of this Henrietta are? I'm wondering if she came from the Sumner Co. TN Phipps family with James and Mary Ann Phipps Lane, possibly her aunt and uncle? Susan
Levi Wooldridge married Henrietta Sarah Phipps in Jan 1820 in White, later Hamilton Co., IL. They had five sons and one daughter. Who are the Allens who married into Jerome Wooldridge's family? Rebecca and Ellender Allen were sisters. Ellender married Levi after Henrietta died. Rebecca married his son, Jerome B. Wooldridge. Jerome/Gerome B. (Berry?) Wooldridge, b. <10 Oct 1829; Thackeray, Hamilton, IL; d. < 30 May 1866; Hamilton Co., IL. Under 21 at time of marriage. + Rebecca Ann Allan/Allen, b. 1828; KY; d. < 12 Sep 1896; Hamilton Co., IL; m. 28 Jul 1850; Hamilton Co., IL. Living with brother, David Allen, in 1850 Census. Children: i. James Berry Wooldridge, b. 1851; Thackeray, Hamilton Co., IL; d. 1936; McLeansboro, Hamilton Co., IL. Buried IOOF Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL Inherited from David Allen, Rebeccas brother, in 1896. + Eliza Jane Brown, m. 9 Aug 1878; White Co., IL; b. 1861; d. 1942. Buried IOOF Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. Children: I. Jerome Wooldridge II. W. A. (Gus) Wooldridge, b. 1878; d. 1962. Buried IOOF Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. + Louella ? , b. 1881; d. 1961. Buried IOOF Cemetery. ii. Sarah Jane Wooldridge, b. 11 May 1852; McLeansboro, Hamilton Co., IL; d. 1936; Hamilton Co., IL. Buried Concord Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. Mothers permission to wed. Inherited from David Allen 1896. + James K. Pierce, son of Ezekiel Pierce & Margaret Denny, m. 30 May 1865/66; Hamilton Co., IL; b. 9 Dec 1844/45; Muhlenberg Co., KY; d. 11 Jul 1923; Thurber, Hamilton Co., IL. Buried Concord Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. Civil War Vet. Children: I. George William Pierce, b. a. 1866. Died in infancy < 1923. OBIT. II. Helen Pierce, b. a. 1867. Died in infancy < 1923. Obit. III. James G. Pierce, b. a. 1868; d. at 6 years old; a. 1874. IV. Charles Franklin Pierce, b. 2 Jan 1872; Hamilton Co., IL; d. 18 Apr 1928; Hamilton Co., IL. Buried Old Brushy/Ray Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. + (1) Frances Biggerstaff, m. a. 1902; b. 23 Feb 1888; IL; d. 24 May 1921; Hamilton Co., IL. D/o of Samuel & Lucinda. + (2) Lula Bell Farris Children: i. Harold E. Pierce I ii. Ethel Uldean Pierce + (3) Idalene Sinclair, m. 5 Oct 1923 V. Mary Ann N. Pierce, b. Aug 1872; IL; d. > 1936. + (1) Robert Allen, m. > 1900; b. Oct 1866; IL. Children: i. James R. Allen ii. Joseph M. Allen iii. Sarah E. Allen + (2) ? Campbell, m. < 11 Jul 1923. VI. John M. Pierce, b. Oct 1874; Hamilton Co., IL; d. 24 Oct 1913; McLeansboro, Hamilton Co., IL. Buried Concord Cemetery. + Maryetta Etta M. Jordan, b. 1885; d. 1932; buried Concord Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. 7 children. VII. Isabella BellePierce, b. Jul 1878; Hamilton Co., IL; d. > 1936 + (1) Charles W. Wheeler + (2) Willis Wheeler VIII. Sarah Henrietta Pierce, b. 2 Jul 1879; Hamilton Co., IL; d. 23 Apr 1943. Buried Concord Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. + Thomas Martin, b. 11 Feb 1878; d. Jul 1969; McLeansboro, Hamilton Co., IL; buried Concord Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. IX. Eliza Liza E. Pierce, b. 19 Mar 1890; Hamilton Co., IL; d. 28 Oct 1936; Hamilton Co., IL. + Homer Riley, m. 11 Apr 1908. X. James Milliard Pierce, b. 7 Nov 1891; Crook Twp., Thurber, Hamilton Co., IL; d. 21 Oct 1961; Brush Harbor, Hamilton Co., IL; buried Ray/Brush Harbor Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. + Bessie Prince, m. 23 Aug 1912; Thurber, Hamilton Co., IL; b. 1 Apr 1894; d. May 1980; McLeansboro, Hamilton, IL; buried Ray/Brush Harbor Cemetery, Hamilton Co., IL. iii. Mary Wooldridge, b. a. 1853; Hamilton Co., IL. Inherited from David Allen 1896. + ? Smith iv. Margaret Wooldridge, b. a. 1854; Hamilton Co., IL. Inherited from David Allen 1896. + ? Allen v. Hellen/Helen Wooldridge, b. a. 1855; Hamilton Co., IL. Inherited from David Allen 1896. + ? Allen vi. Henryette Wooldridge, b. a. 1856; Hamilton Co., IL Inherited from David Allen 1896. + ? Clark vii. William J. Wooldridge, b. a. 1857; Hamilton Co., IL. Inherited from David Allen 1896.
Would some one please look up the following? Not sure, but think they would be in Hamilton Co. possibly in Knights Prairie Twp, Silas Sandusky b. 1885 IL Thurman Sandusky b. 1886 IL Ray Sandusky b.1892 IL Any informatio will be appreciated. Take care, Evalyn
"http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/servant.html#photocopies This database includes more than 2000 transactions found in governmental records involving the servitude and emancipation of Africans and, occasionally, Indians in the French and English eras of colonial Illinois (1722-1790) and African-Americans in the American period of Illinois (1790-1863). The Archives extracted the names of servants, slaves, or free persons and masters, witnesses, or related parties from selected governmental records to produce this database. Currently the following records are included in this database: Edwards County Servitude and Emancipation Record, 1815-1860 Gallatin County Servitude Register, 1815-1839 Pope County Servitude Register, 1816-1819 Randolph County Record Book 1, 1736-1782 Deed Record J-M, 1797-1815 Servitude and Emancipation Registers, 1809-1863 Kaskaskia Manuscripts, 1714-1816 St. Clair County Registre of Insinuations, 1737-1769 Record of Auction of Charleville Estate, 1782 Deed Record A-C, 1790-1796, 1800-1813 Servitude Register, 1805-1832, 1846-1863 Slave Registration Files, 1807-1849 Emancipation Register, 1812-1843" -----Original Message----- From: JAOARM@aol.com [mailto:JAOARM@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:31 AM To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] Database of Illinois Servitude and Emancipation Records I was interested in locating information on slaves in Hamilton County and searched the Illinois Archives. I received a "no data" statement for all modes of searching. Has anyone used this database? Are there any records of slaves in Hamilton Co.? Thanx John O'Neal <A HREF="http://www.ilsos.net/cgi-bin/archives/servitude.s">Click here: Database of Illinois Servitude and Emancipation Records</A> http://www.ilsos.net/cgi-bin/archives/servitude.s
I was interested in locating information on slaves in Hamilton County and searched the Illinois Archives. I received a "no data" statement for all modes of searching. Has anyone used this database? Are there any records of slaves in Hamilton Co.? Thanx John O'Neal <A HREF="http://www.ilsos.net/cgi-bin/archives/servitude.s">Click here: Database of Illinois Servitude and Emancipation Records</A> http://www.ilsos.net/cgi-bin/archives/servitude.s
Hamilton Co., IL Does anyone have any info on: Mary TOLLEY b. about 1851 Hamilton Co., IL m. John HALL 1879 m. ---- SHORT In the 1880 Census she is married to John Hall and they have a son living there John Hall, age 12, and a sson (Step son to John?) Thanks! Dianna Wayne Co., IL Coordinator: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwayne host: http://www.iltrails.org/Wayne Yahoo Voice Chat id = d1anna46 AOL-IM id = dlwillie 1
-----Original Message----- From: Cook, James Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7:51 AM To: 'Carol Janes' Subject: RE: [ILHAMILT-L] clerks in Court Houses I certainly understand wanting to respect the privacy of the living. But I think the public should have easy access to older documents, especially those prior to 1900. I can also understand not wanting a for-profit company to come in and copy everything. But I think you could at least allow the LDS to come and film the records, as has been done for most counties in most states. I think the experience of other counties with the LDS shown that the records are used appropriately and legitimately. I think it would also increase revenue for the courthouse. I know when researching other families in other counties, I generally order the index pages from the LDS, and then request copies of the original records from the county courthouses. For what its worth, I've written to the courthouse requesting copies of the deed index containing the surname COOK. I'll let you all know what their current policy is when I hear from them. Jim Cook -----Original Message----- From: Carol Janes [mailto:cjanes925@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:37 PM To: ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ILHAMILT-L] clerks in Court Houses I have heard the reason for not allowing copies or photos is that they don't want the information uploaded to a site that charges the public for viewing the records. Also, the reason for the restriction of certain records because of date is to respect the privacy of living people. Just like we can view census records unless it's been 72 years since the census date, I think something similar might now be required of vital statistics. Carol Janes ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@charter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------- Visit Carol Yarbrough's Yesterdays in Hamilton County, Illinois at: http://www.carolyar.com/Illinois/HamiltonCounty.htm - ------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! ______________________________
Evelyn, 1944-16 CAREY, James Henry; Times-Leader, 05 Oct 1944; b. 03 Apr 1876; d. 20 Sept 1944; (son of George & Elizabeth Matheny Carey- see 1911-09 & 1961-90). Married Pearlie Rebecca Prather, 22 Dec 1898- d. 1928; 2 sons: Merle Edwin Carey of Bloomington, & Everett Carey of U.S. Armed Forces. Married Mrs. Mollie Acord, fall of 1931 - d. 1937. Married Mrs. Anna Brooks, 26 Jul 1942 of Carmi. Leaves wife; 2 sons; 2 sis.: Mrs. Mary Hatton of Dale & Mrs. Daisy Roth of McL.; 1 bro.: G.F. Carey of Forest City; 2 grch.: Edwin Lee of the Armed Forces & Diana Sue of Bloomington; 2 step-ch.: Clarence Brooks of Carmi & Mrs. fay Brown of Evansville, Ind. 1 bro. d.: O. H. Carey d. : 2 sis. d.: Maude Carey & Mrs. Emma Hatton both d. (See 1961-90; 1911-09; 1937-21) 1937-21 CAREY, Mollie Pratt Acord; Times-Leader, 03 Jun 1937; b. 15 Feb 1872; d. 31 May 1937; dau. of James & Luminda Pratt. Married Owen Acord, 12 Apr 1916- he d. 1919. Married James H. carey, 14 Dec 1930. Leaves 4 step-ch.: Ralph & Julia Acord; & Merle & Everett Carey. 3 sis.: Mae d. in infancy, Ella Pratt d. at 35, Mabel Wilson survives. Interred Ten Mile. (See 1944-16; 1920-02; 1885-26) The above 2 probably don't give any clues to what you want to know, except Everett in Armed Forces. James Would some one who has Mr. Felty's Legacy of Kin books please look for the following. These 2 ladies were both wives of James Henry Carey who was born 1876 and died Sept. 1944. Mrs. Mollie Acord married Mr.Carey in 1931 died in 1937 Mrs. Anna Brooks married Mr, Carey in 1942- I do not have a date of death for her. I am hoping that one of them might mention Everett Carey as a step son and give some idea as to where he was in 1937 and/or 1942. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Evalyn
Would some one who has Mr. Felty's Legacy of Kin books please look for the following. These 2 ladies were both wives of James Henry Carey who was born 1876 and died Sept. 1944. Mrs. Mollie Acord married Mr.Carey in 1931 died in 1937 Mrs. Anna Brooks married Mr, Carey in 1942- I do not have a date of death for her. I am hoping that one of them might mention Everett Carey as a step son and give some idea as to where he was in 1937 and/or 1942. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Evalyn
Would someone please look in the 1920 Hamilton Co. census for James H. Carey b.1876 b. IL Pearly- wife b, 1876 IL Merle,Murrie, Murel, b. 1899 IL Everett b. 1908 IL. - might be listed as Henry Everett, Harry Everett, or Everett Henry, or Harry Any information will be appreciated. Evalyn
Jean, Thanks for sending the information. on the 2 Everett s on the SSD Index. The 1910 census for family of Merle and Everett lists his age as 1 6/12.. Does anyone know if they figure age January - thru December, or is it based on time the census was taken? I don't know when the census was taken in 1910. I don't know month of birth, but if figured Jan-Dec. the July 27 would be a good guess., I have no information on a wife or children. Thanks again for information. Evalyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean B" <jeanb@wf.quik.com> To: <ILHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] Everett Carey > Located obit for Merle E. born 2 Sept 1899 > died 4 Mar 1980, resident of Bloomington. > > Everett Carey no obit, > only 2 Everett Carey war listed on SSD Index issued in IL before 1951 > one born 27 July 1908 died Feb 1987 ssn 33-07-926 > > Gallipolis, Gallia, OH at time of death > > > other one born 2 May 1908 residence zip 33552 > died May 1983 issued in MA before 1951 > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@charter.net > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Search the ILHAMILT-L archives > ------------------------------ > Interactive search: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ILHAMILT-L > Threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ILHAMILT > >
I think limiting the time frame that records are copied is a very good thing and we really should follow the standard rule of respecting people's privacy; now, having said that; I would say that by the most part, the majority of us are not looking for data regarding folks born in or after 1900. I would venture a guess that for the most part we are hunting for data on those that were in the 19th century. I know that the Taylors, Mcmahons , Lowerys and so on that I am hunting were born round about 1806 to 1900. Haven't been fortunate enough to track down grandchildren of my families that were born in say, 1806 to 1888. I would also venture a guess that if Hamilton county would condescend to allow photo copies of data in the time frame that would protect any possibly living beings, we'd be supportive and understanding of that. Also, we need to always be courteous and so on to the clerks who serve us. They are employees and must do as they've been told. Perhaps being courteous and yet making polite requests, etc, we could build up a rapport with those clerks and possibly get them to go to bat for us. Don't get me wrong I am not for one minute suggesting any genealogist is rude or presuming with those clerks. CM
Located obit for Merle E. born 2 Sept 1899 died 4 Mar 1980, resident of Bloomington. Everett Carey no obit, only 2 Everett Carey war listed on SSD Index issued in IL before 1951 one born 27 July 1908 died Feb 1987 ssn 33-07-926 Gallipolis, Gallia, OH at time of death other one born 2 May 1908 residence zip 33552 died May 1983 issued in MA before 1951
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I have heard the reason for not allowing copies or photos is that they don't want the information uploaded to a site that charges the public for viewing the records. Also, the reason for the restriction of certain records because of date is to respect the privacy of living people. Just like we can view census records unless it's been 72 years since the census date, I think something similar might now be required of vital statistics. Carol Janes James Gholson <jgholson@spiff.net> wrote: I do not understand why Hamilton County records haven't been filmed or archived. I believe if you go on line to find something listed with The State of Illinois you will find Hamilton County missing from the information that is available from other counties. The records in the court house do not belong to the court house but are there for the people and we pay the taxes that pay for their jobs & the restoring of documents. They are the custodians of these records and are there to help you. A couple of years ago at the Hamilton County Clerks office, I ask if I could go into the records room and was told yes, but I would have to leave my video camera at the desk as no cameras were allowed. They are very helpful and will make copies for a fee. Scraps of paper were given to write on if you found something you wanted them to look up or copy. I have heard some people report in some states that they use a digital camera to copy a document but not here. Last year while looking at the Index to marriages etc., I was informed that one of the books that I had opened was not permitted to be viewed by me. not sure now the reason, but probably was the date of the book. In 1995 a letter was sent out to the clerks about viewing Index records and another memo in August 1999 as follows: County Clerks p,2 We also need to remind you that only you or your employees may physically access and/or view the Vital Records or Indexes in your office. Private Agencies may not physically access records. (Next states the law and if custodian of Vital Records willfully and knowingly violates the law etc..) The only exception to this law is the indexes to records prior to Jan. 1, 1916 shall be made available to persons for the purpose of genealogy research. It is signed Steven L. Perry Deputy State Registrar. All this said, it still leaves many unanswered questions as to why & what is allowed at different locations. James This is my fear - that they won't let me have copies of the index. I don't really understand the purpose of this policy, but I've heard of other places not allowing Xerox copies of indexes also. It almost seems the only purpose is to make it harder for people to do research on these records (which may cut down on wear and tear, but is sort a CATCH-22 sort of reasoning). Anyway, thanks for the help. Jim Guess things have changed since I worked in a Court House. When I was a clerk in Lane County in Eugene, Oregon, it was made very clear to all of us that the taxpayers paid our wages and we were in that court house to take care of the public. If they wanted copies of something we were to get to it and help them out, those records were[and I thought still are] PUBLIC RECORDS and the people essentially paid our wages and we were to jump to and be courteous and get copies of whatever the people wanted. ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:mhebert.usgw@charter.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit Carol Yarbrough's Yesterdays in Hamilton County, Illinois at: http://www.carolyar.com/Illinois/HamiltonCounty.htm --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!
I do not understand why Hamilton County records haven't been filmed or archived. I believe if you go on line to find something listed with The State of Illinois you will find Hamilton County missing from the information that is available from other counties. The records in the court house do not belong to the court house but are there for the people and we pay the taxes that pay for their jobs & the restoring of documents. They are the custodians of these records and are there to help you. A couple of years ago at the Hamilton County Clerks office, I ask if I could go into the records room and was told yes, but I would have to leave my video camera at the desk as no cameras were allowed. They are very helpful and will make copies for a fee. Scraps of paper were given to write on if you found something you wanted them to look up or copy. I have heard some people report in some states that they use a digital camera to copy a document but not here. Last year while looking at the Index to marriages etc., I was informed that one of the books that I had opened was not permitted to be viewed by me. not sure now the reason, but probably was the date of the book. In 1995 a letter was sent out to the clerks about viewing Index records and another memo in August 1999 as follows: County Clerks p,2 We also need to remind you that only you or your employees may physically access and/or view the Vital Records or Indexes in your office. Private Agencies may not physically access records. (Next states the law and if custodian of Vital Records willfully and knowingly violates the law etc..) The only exception to this law is the indexes to records prior to Jan. 1, 1916 shall be made available to persons for the purpose of genealogy research. It is signed Steven L. Perry Deputy State Registrar. All this said, it still leaves many unanswered questions as to why & what is allowed at different locations. James This is my fear - that they won't let me have copies of the index. I don't really understand the purpose of this policy, but I've heard of other places not allowing Xerox copies of indexes also. It almost seems the only purpose is to make it harder for people to do research on these records (which may cut down on wear and tear, but is sort a CATCH-22 sort of reasoning). Anyway, thanks for the help. Jim Guess things have changed since I worked in a Court House. When I was a clerk in Lane County in Eugene, Oregon, it was made very clear to all of us that the taxpayers paid our wages and we were in that court house to take care of the public. If they wanted copies of something we were to get to it and help them out, those records were[and I thought still are] PUBLIC RECORDS and the people essentially paid our wages and we were to jump to and be courteous and get copies of whatever the people wanted.
Guess things have changed since I worked in a Court House. When I was a clerk in Lane County in Eugene, Oregon, it was made very clear to all of us that the taxpayers paid our wages and we were in that court house to take care of the public. If they wanted copies of something we were to get to it and help them out, those records were[and I thought still are] PUBLIC RECORDS and the people essentially paid our wages and we were to jump to and be courteous and get copies of whatever the people wanted.
The reason given to me was that the State of Illinois or Hamilton County paid the staff for making the index and the County Clerk did not think it was right for researchers to copy their work. Darlene