Hi, Were there any cemeteries in Erienna Township in operation around 1895. If so, where? I hope to visit the area next week and would like to check out the local cemeteries. Thanks, Ernestine Wark, NJ

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wg.2ADE/1103.2 Message Board Post: I have changed e-mail address. Now sutterg@bellsouth.net

FYI! The full story appears below in Dick Eastman's column. Deb -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Pack [mailto:e.j.pack@natchezbelle.org] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:47 AM To: MSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSGEN] Fwd: [STATE-COORD-L] Fwd: [Newsletter-plus-html] Genealogy Scam Artist Arrested For those of us who have been sparring with this bunch for a long time now, this notice comes as very good news indeed. :-) A big thanks to Dick Eastman for his participation in sniffing out the bad guys. >Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 22:19:33 -0700 >Old-To: State Coord List <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> >From: "Richard (Isaiah) Harrison" <IsaiahH@cox.net> >Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Fwd: [Newsletter-plus-html] > >Your CC's might be interested in the following item released tonignt and >reprinted here with permission. > >-Isaiah > >>SPECIAL EDITION: Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter >> >>The following "Special Edition" is being sent to subscribers to the Plus >>Edition of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter: >> >>I have written a number of times about a genealogy-related scam that >>operates under a variety of names, including GenSeekers.com, >>GenealogyGiants.com and more. In the July 7 edition of the newsletter, I >>identified the owner/operator of this "business" as 21-year-old Elias >>Abodeely of Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Since then, I have had conversations with >>several people in Iowa about this "business." >> >>I can now report that earlier today the Cedar Rapids police department >>arrested Elias Abodeely for his activities with GenSeekers.com and the >>other Web sites he operates. >> >>KWWL television in Iowa is now reporting that Cedar Rapids Police have >>made an arrest after a two year Internet crime investigation. The crimes >>involved genealogy websites. Today police arrested Elias Abodeely II of >>Cedar Rapids.. He faces four charges: 1st degree theft, identity theft, >>money laundering, and ongoing criminal conduct. Police say they expect to >>file charges against more suspects. >> >>Details are still developing. Keep an eye on the newsletter Discussion >>Board at http://www.eogn.com for updates. I will also be writing about >>this in the next newsletter. >> >>You can read my earlier article at http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0327.htm. >> >> - Dick Eastman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wg.2ADE/1646.1 Message Board Post: You can find information on this branch of the Dingels family tree at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/d/i/n/David-J-Dingels

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1649 Message Board Post: Looking for death/burial of Matthew Ahern and Adeline Pilcher or Pitcher Ahern died about 1875-1880. Also death/burial of Elizabeth Ahern possibly died 1870-1880. Matthew was a saloon keeper in Morris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1648 Message Board Post: Looking for death/burial of Matthew Ahern and Adeline Pilcher or Pitcher Ahern died about 1875-1880. Also death/burial of Elizabeth Ahern possibly died 1870-1880. Matthew was a saloon keeper in Morris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sorem, Ostrem, Mikkelsen, Swedin, Ousbye, Knudsen, Oudensen, Udneseth Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1643.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Lea, Thanks so much for the obituary on Mons and the naturalization information. The dates were helpful. I was able to recognize Sarah Ostrem's brother (Ole) and some married Sorem relatives. There were 8 children in the Ostrem family. I don't know how many immigrated or if any of them settled in Grundy besides Sarah Ostrem married to Mons Sorem and sister, Kari Ostrem, married to Lars Ole Sorem. It will take me some time to sort that information out. I am going to check to see if I have any information on a Martin Sorem in my records, but the name is not familiar and he may just be from that area in Norway. There is one remaining son in the Sorem family that I am searching for. Niels Nielson Sorem, born 1833, age 33, emigrated to Morris with his wife Sarah (Siri Jacobsdatter), born 1826, age 40, and their three children, twins, Niels and Jacob, born 1858, age 7, and Brita, born 1860, age 5. They left from Bergen/Stavanger on June 1, 1866, one year prior to brothers Mons and Andrew and their families. I do not have their date or place of arrival but their departure was in the Digitalarkivet on the ship Leif. I do know that Mons and Andrew came by way of Quebec. My understanding is that Niels passed away shortly after arriving in Morris and his wife, Sarah, raised the family there. She and her sons moved to Kansas about 1879. Brita married Christian Jergensen Anderson, 19 Nov 1878 in Grundy, and I believe they also may have moved to Kansas with her mother and brothers in 1879. Do any of them appear in the History of Grundy County? Mons and Andrew did but it was in 1892 and Niels had been deceased for quite sometime. Since they left Illinois before 1880, they are not in the census and I have not found them in the Kansas census. I have no death, obituary or burial dates or information on Niels. As far as I know, he was the first Sorem to arrive in the US. His widow died in 1910 in Hodgeman County, Kansas. I would appreciate any information you might be able to add on Niels or his family. Thanks, Kay

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1647.1 Message Board Post: Steve, Yes, John Lyne belonged to the GAR Darveau Post. I have no idea where the records are. You might write to the Grundy County Historical Society, P. O. Box 224, Morris, IL 60450. I have never seen the records or heard any reference to them. Lea

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1643.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Kay, Andrew N. Sorem and Mons N. Sorem applied for citizenship 6 April 1875. Their final papers were signed 5 Nov. 1877 (all in Grundy Co, IL). The papers just said that they renounced the King of Norway & Sweden. There was no personal information. "Morris, Daily Herald", Morris, IL Wed, March 17, 1920 Mons N. Sorem, formerly of Grundy county, Illinois, died Feb. 29, 1920, at 12:15 o'clock, p.m., at the age of 79 years, 9 months and 17 days. Funeral services were held on Wednesday in Ransom church, Minnesota. Mr. Sorem was born in Etna, Norway, May 12, 1840. His parents were Nels and Bertha Sorem. He was married to Sarah Ostrem on May 6, 1864, and having been drafted for the Danish-German war, left home two days after the wedding for Christania where the soldiers remained in reserve for many months, but war was settled before they had to go farther. Mr. Sorem was a drummer in the regular army. They left Etna on April 23, 1867, for America, and with their two sons, Nels and Severt, came to Morris, Ill., on June 18, and his brother Andrew Sorem came at the same time. After twelve years they bought a farm near Morris, on which they lived until 1886 when they sold and came to Nobles county, Minnesota, and bought land, and where they have since resided, with the exception of three years. After having sold their farm near Bigelow they moved to Jewell, Iowa, where Mrs. Sorem had three brothers and a sister living. They were blessed with ten children, seven boys and three girls. One son, who died in infancy, was laid to rest in the Lisbon church cemetery. After having lived in Jewell three years, longing to go back to their children in Minnesota, they moved back to Bigelow in 1913, and built a home. There they resided until Mrs. Sorem died, July 29, 1916, being permitted to pass yonder to her heavenly home, which she long had sought, and thus Mr. Sorem being left alone, and also longing for his heavenly heritage and to be with his savior and dear ones, and where there is a home prepared for those that love their savior, Jesus. Mr. Sorem had been making his home with the children since his wife died, and at his death was with his youngest daughter, Carrie Eide, residing south of Rushmore. Nine children still survive and are left to mourn a loving father: Nels M. Sorem, Worthington, Minn., Severt M. Sorem, Story City, Ia.; Michael Sorem, Modesto, Cal., the only one who could not come to the funeral; Mrs. Isabel Stangeland, Lismore, Minn.; Ben and Ole, residing near Bigelow, Lewis Sorem and Mrs. Bessie Hokeness, Northfield, Minn. Besides the children, Mr. Sorem leaves to mourn his death 34 grandchildren. Funeral services were held at the house on Wednesday afternoon with a short prayer service, after which they proceeded to the Ransom church, where funeral services were held. Interment was made in the Norwegian cemetery west of Ransom church. Relatives from out of town were: Oscar Ostrem, Jewell, Iowa, a brother of Mrs. Sorem; Mrs. Isabel Male and Mr. and Mrs. John Male of Garden City, Iowa; Mr. and Mrs. Andrew Anderson, of Morris, Ill.; Mrs. Iverson of Yorkville, Ill., and Nels A. Sorem, Morris, Ill. Rev. J. O. Mundal of Luvern, Minn., officiated at the funeral assisted by Rev. J. H. Hanson of Lake Mills, Iowa. Mr. Sorem was a loving father and a good neighbor and loved by all who knew him and will be greatly missed. No, I haven't heard of Lars Ole Sorem. In the Morris paper, I ran across a reference to Martin Nelson Sorem, aged 88, who died 4 March 1898. He came from Norway some 50 years ago & settled in Kendall Co. Stayed there a short time & then moved to Grundy. He was survived by his wife & her two children by a former marriage, Mrs. Gunnerson & Mrs. Skoegen. Funeral was held at the Lutheran church west of Lisbon, Kendall Co, IL. Lea

I also would like info on The GAR. My Grandmother Emma Simms Lear has a metal seal stuck in her grave site next to the head stone. Does anyone know how she got this award? Sandy Morrical

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lyne, Lynes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1647 Message Board Post: Would anyone happen to have any information on the Grand Army of the Republic Post 329 that was located in Morris, IL or know where the records are kept/archived? I would like to check them for information on my great great grandfather John Lyne(s) of Morris to see if he was a member and what other information they might contain on him. Thank you very much for your help!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/975.1.2.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Those are the ones I am looking for. Your quick response is very appreciated. The two Seaman children died before their parents Johann and Johanna (Krug) Seaman and the rest of the children moved to Clare County, Michigan.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wg.2ADE/975.1.2.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Hello- There are some KRUGs buried in Goodfarm Lutheran Cemetery, which is about 2 miles north of Dwight. The ones I have found are: - Ida Mae: 1890-1947 - Edward P.: 1885-1963 - Augusta: 1868-1954 - Frederick: 1869-1954 (my gr-gr-grandfather) - Alvina: 1875-1899 (my gr-gr-grandmother) - John (Johann) C.: 1797- April 12, 1860 - Anna B.: Sept. 16, 1802- Sept. 8, 1855 - George B.: 1839-1904 (my 3rd great-grandfather) - Hana: 1841-1928 (my 3rd great-grandmother) - Rosina: 1879-1960 - Leonard: October 15, 1844- March 15,1898 - Christine J.: March 7, 1851- June 23, 1931 - Christian G.: 1883-1938 - Fredrica Krug Beck: 1883-1974 - Johan G.: March 23, 1867- September 26, 1895 - John K: 1840-1923 - Margaret: 1846-1919 That I can recall, most of the stones are legible. The stones for John C. (1797-1860)/Anna B.(1802-1855) and Leonard (1844-1898) are barely legible in some places. At Goodfarm I also found a stone for 2 children of J.H. and J.C. SEAMAN: Alfred G.- born May 3, 1899 and died January 9, 1901, and Erna F.- born April 22, 1903 and died May 16, 1903. I am not sure if there anymore SEAMANs out there. I hope this helps Jen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sorem, Ostrem, Mikkelsen, Swedin, Ousbye, Knudsen, Oudensen, Udneseth Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1643.1.1 Message Board Post: Lea, Thanks so much for your reply. The info on Michael fills one of the gaps in my search. I was not aware that he had ten children, so that opens up some more doors. I have found a number of Sorem families in the Grundy county area and have wondered if they are all related in some fashion. My guess is that they are. The puzzle is trying to figure out how. Have you ever seen anything about a Lars Ole Sorem? He has been very elusive and came to the US later than the other three brothers. I did find him in a Ransom twp 1900 Census but haven't found anything else on him so far. He was born about 1838 in Norway. I don't have the obituary on Mons and would like to have it. It is possible Mons may have stayed with my father's family. My father was the son of Benjamin and was raised in the Ransom twp area in Minnesota. Ben had 12 children with Nellie Milton. My father was #3 of the twelve and they lived on a farm in the Worthington area until Ben retired in the 1930s. The reason I am interested in the naturalization is that Mons and Andrew immigrated as Nielsen. Mons from Ostreim and Andrew from Sorheim. They were shown at those locations in the 1865 Norway Census. In the 1880 Illinois Census they are shown as Mons Nelson and Andrew Nelson. I had been having a terrible time trying to find them in the Census and finally located them in the Digitalarkivet in the 1880 US Census of Norwegians in the US. I am curious to know when they adopted the last name of Sorem. They probably did it because there were so many Nelsons around and Sorem is different. It is logical since it was not uncommon for Norwegians to take the name of the farm from which they came. It could possibly show up in their naturalization papers. I really appreciate all of your assistance, Lea. Thanks, Kay

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/975.1.2.1.3 Message Board Post: Lea, I was wondering if you could tell me if there are any SEAMAN's or KRUG's listed in Braceville-Gardner Cemetery. I know they are suppose to be buried in Gardner. If not Braceville Cemetery, what other cemeteries are there in the area? I will be in Grundy County next week and hope to find their graves. Thanks for any help you can give me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1644.1.1 Message Board Post: Lea, Thank you so much for trying. I don't know where else to look, but will keep trying. Suzanne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1644.1 Message Board Post: Suzanne, I checked the newspaper file, the death index file, and the cemeteries in Grundy County. There is no stone for Emma in Grundy County. There is no mention of her in the newspaper file or the death index file. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Lea

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1643.1 Message Board Post: Kay, The Spanish flu was around in 1918, and a tremendous number of people died. It was a flu/pneumonia combination. The three children of Michael Sorem all died in the Emergency Flu Hospital in Morris: Gladys age 11, Arnold, age 14 & Louis, age 19. They are buried in Evergreen Cem, Morris, IL. Apparently, the entire family had been in the hospital with the flu, but by Nov. 18, all had returned home except the above three and an unnamed sister. "Morris Daily Herald", Morris, IL Mon, Feb 21, 1955 Michael N. Sorem, 88, died Saturday at 1:30 p.m. in his home at 1024 Lisbon St. The body is at the Davis Funeral home where friends may call until time for services. In lieu of flowers the family has asked that contributions be made to the Heart Fund. Services will be at 2 p.m., Tuesday in the Davis chapel. The Rev. B. C. Qually wil officiate. Interment will be in Evergreen cemetery. Mr. Sorem was born in Saratoga township, Feb 3, 1877, a son of the late Andrew and Karie Sorem. He married Julia Thorson here on March 17, 1898 and they soon would have observed their 57th aniversary. Except for a few years spent farming they had resided in Morris. Surviving are his wife, three daughters, Mrs. Gordon (Amanda) Leach, Mazon; Mrs. Joseph (Kathryn) Viano Channahon; Mrs. Julia Viano, Morris; four sons, Clifford, John and Michael Jr., all of Morris and Peter of Chico, Califl; 18 grandchildren, six step-grandchildren and four great-grandsons. There are also four sisters, Mrs. Dan (Betsy) Iverson, Plattville; Mrs. John (Belle) Olson, Mrs. Andrew (Emma) Anderson and Mrs. Chris (Carrie) Johnson, all of Morris. He was preceded in death by a daughter Gladys, two sons, Louis and Arnold, a sister Mrs. Ed Anderson and two brothers, Nels and Andrew. Mons N. Sorem was buried in the Norwegian cemetery west of Ransom church in MN. Do you have his obituary? It is rather lengthy. I'll check next week at the Courthouse for a probate for him, but he left the area in 1886 when they sold their farm & went to MN. Stayed there except for 3 years when they lived in Jewell, Iowa (having sold the farm in MN). Returned to MN in 1913 where his wife died in 1916. He then lived with his children. After reading his obituary, I don't think that there will be a probate here or anywhere else. He sold his property as he moved. There might be naturalization, but it won't say anything except that he renounced the King of Norway and the date of naturalization. The newspaper says that the family left from Etna, Norway, on April 23, 1867, for America, & arrived in Morris on June 18, 1867. Brother Andrew came with them. Lea

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wilter/Welter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wg.2ADE/1646 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the family of Joseph Wilter (Welter). The family emigrated from Alsace Lorraine about 1885. Mr Wilter was apparently a miner around Coal City, but only briefly. He died, and his wife Anna remarried in 1888 to Leonard Dingels. There were three daughters, Elizabeth, Angela and Anna. Anna was born in 1885, but I do not know if the birth was in Germany, enroute, or in America. Elizabeth was my grandmother.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carter,Hoss,West, Taylor,Fleischauer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wg.2ADE/1645.1 Message Board Post: I am looking for a John Knudsen as he is listed in the cemetery records as perhaps an owner of a plot in Broughton Cemetery,Livingston Co.,Illinois.