This was posted on ILTraces-L@rootsweb.com - to post IL obits, etc., on when you don't know the county or are looking for info. While doing volunteer data entry for the Whittier Area Genealogical Society newspaper database I came across this obituary which might be of some interest to someone on this list. This does not relate to any surname that I am researching personally. Nancy Anna Haffner, Mother Of City Controller, Dies Mrs. Anna Haffner of 521 S. Washington Ave., mother of Whittier City Controller Carrol H. Haffner, died Monday (14 Oct) in a nursing home following an illness of several months. The funeral service will be conducted Wednesday at 2 p.m. in Siewert-Barbert Memory Chapel. Mrs. Haffner came to Whittier from Denver, Colo., in 1924 with her husband, Edwin G. Haffner. He died in 1948. Mrs. Haffner was born May 16, 1871 in Greene County, Ill., the youngest of eight children. The family moved to Iowa where she was educated, and she taught in Iowa country schools. In 1894 she was married to E. G. Haffner, who had a grain mill and elevator in Iowa. Later, he became a Kansas stock rancher, and from Kansas the family moved to Denver. Mr and Mrs. Haffner came to Whittier to be near their son. Their only daughter, Margaret, died as a young woman. Mrs. Haffner was a member and past president of Whittier chapter, American War Mothers; was a member of Whittier Women's Relief Corps, Plymouth Congregational Church, and Royal Neighbors of America. Until her health failed her she worked to aid disabled war veterans and spent countless hours knitting, sewing and baking for hospitalized veterans. She is survived by her son here; one sister, Mrs. Emma C. Gary, 93, of Whittier; two grandchildren, Mrs. Ruth M. Kamerer of Long Beach and Mrs. Helen Gossar of Brea; and four great grandchildren. The Whittier News, Whittier, California October 15, 1957

We are new to the list as of today. We have several families which spent considerable time in Greene County. James TURNEY, attorney general of ILL and famous lawyer was in Greene co. from 1820-off and on until 1850 when he moved to Texas. His wife is name unknown and we're hoping someone might be able to help us figure it out. My 3rd great-grandfather James TURNEY was born about 1789 in Smith Co., TN Peter TURNEY and Francis Haynes/Haines. This family was very prominent in politics in TN. James left TN and came to the settlements in ILL in 1819-1820. He is listed as an attorney in early records in several counties in the 1820's including Washington co., Randolph Co., Sangamon co., and Greene co. and Schuyler Co. In 1830 he is listed with his wife (unknown name) living in Greene co. He is also described as a famous lawyer in chicago the next year. He was in the Black Hawk and Sax and Fox wars. I have all of his legislative record, and he served as Attorney General of ILL. 1823-1828 among other offices. Unfortunately none of his public record entries mention his wife. Here are the marriages of his daughters= Emily married to Jacob Fry May 25, 1826 in Greene co., Illinois Vol. 1 page 6 lic.#170. -Emily's daughter Sarah married Theodore Hay. English, Lindsey married to Turney, Anabell in Greene co., Ill 12/12/1828 vol 1, page 10 lic. # 300. Fry, William Douglas to Turney, Elizabeth Sarah in Will co. 11/06/1839 lic. #218 1838-attends CHICAGO political meeting May 26, 1838 page 2:3, appointed Reg. Galena Land Office, November 10, 2:3. =He declines!DEED-2 April 1838-James Turney county of GREENE, to Henry Belcher, county of Will-for lot #3 in city of Lockport, Will co. for $400-James sold to Henry. But he still holds other land there and family members live there. 1836-39-state senator from Greene county Ill.-Dec. 5, 1836-July 22, 1837, Dec 1838-Feb. 3, 1840. We need to learn of any records about James Turney with regards to his family and his death. Might anyone have access to any Carrollton/Greene Co. newspapers for about 1864? Or marriage announcements for the daughters or know if there were applications filed at that time for marriages? Or obit for Emily Turney Fry 11 April 1881 died in Carrollton Arabella Turney English died 8 March 1866 in Carrollton Mrs. Turney (Sarah) died 17 Aug. 1837? We don't know anything about youngest daughter Elizabeth Turney Fry and what happened to her. If anyone can help with this family please write at Skysilver2000@charter.net Thanks, Karen

Where is the link? -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Aleguas [mailto:saleguas@motion.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:44 PM To: ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILGREENE] Researcher needs help: King-Griffin-Green(e) Family I've added a new link ("Can You Identify Me?") on each county index page right below the link for our Surname Researchers. Marcheta Jones from Hobart, Oklahoma is asking for researchers in the MAGA area and specifically Greene County to see if they can help her identify the photos I've posted on the aforementioned page. She believes very strongly that the individuals belong to the King, Griffin, Greene or related families. Most of the photos were taken in the Carrollton area. Her email address is included on the photo pages. Thanks for any help you can provide. ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Jeannie Smith, list administrator with questions concerning this list! mailto:wordgenius@aol.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Near the top of the page at this URL http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index_gre-scot.html - Scroll down below the "What's New" link and the search engine window - it is the link right below the Surname Researcher's link.

I've added a new link ("Can You Identify Me?") on each county index page right below the link for our Surname Researchers. Marcheta Jones from Hobart, Oklahoma is asking for researchers in the MAGA area and specifically Greene County to see if they can help her identify the photos I've posted on the aforementioned page. She believes very strongly that the individuals belong to the King, Griffin, Greene or related families. Most of the photos were taken in the Carrollton area. Her email address is included on the photo pages. Thanks for any help you can provide.

----- Original Message ----- From: Frank & Carolynn Bettis To: morganhistory@themyers.org Cc: saleguas@motion.net Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: Fw: HB 498 - SOS charging research fees Is there any way that you can get this out to as many County Coordinators as possible and get the folks out there to oppose Hannig's below outlined bill? Would appreciate any help you can afford. I've phoned both Hannig & Demuzio's offices and expressed my opposition. Please let me know if you concur with my feelings and if there is anyway this can go to all County Coordinators? Send it out over my name. This is a shame that Rep. Gary Hannig is doing this when Macoupin County has such an active Historical and Genealogical Societies, not to mention all of the other societies, researchers, etc. across Illinois. Thanks so much. Rep Gary Hannig has filed the following bill. The Secretary of State's Legislative Liaision, David Jones, is aware of the bill, but they were not involved in its creation. The bill will probably be heard in committee on Feb. 20th. HB 498 Amends the Secretary of State Act . Provides that a fee of $7 per research request for copies of non-certified death certificates, civil war muster records and census records shall be paid to the Secretary of State and deposited into the Archives Research Fund. Amends the State Finance Act. Creates the Archives Research Fund and provides that monies deposited ito the fund may, subject to appropriation, be used by the Secretary of State for expenses of conducting archival research of Archive records. Effective July 1, 2003. Urge all in opposition to HB 498 to conctact Representative Gary Hannig by phone or mail at: 225 S. Macoupin St, Gillespie, IL 62033, Tel. # 217-839-2859 or 300 Capitol Bldg., Springfield, IL 62706, Tel. No. 217-782-8071 also contact: Senator Vince Demuzio, 140 Carlinville Plaza, Carlinville, IL 62626, Tel. No. 217-854-4441 Have not been able to acquire an email address for Rep. Hannig and Sen. Demuzio does not have one. Strongly urge all those in opposition to this HB 498 also contact their local Representative(s) and Senator(s) making their feelings known. Perhaps if this HB 498 moves thru the legislative system, we can form a group and personally appear and offer testimony in opposition. This bill can be tracked at the Illinois Legislative Reference Bureau's web site: www.legis.state.il.us

Please, is it possible that someone could send me a xerox copy of the page containing all the Crouch burials (especially James H. Crouch) and a xerox copy of the title page and verso page of the title page. This would be considered proof of burial by the DAR, I think. I will be glad to pay mailing cost and xeroxing cost, listing the burials in Hermitage Cemetery, Rubicon Township, Greene County, Illinois. Thank you very much. (AAnninelli@aol.com) Please contact me for "snail" address. Ann Marie

Thanks so much to Kent who gave me the listing of Crouch(s) in Hermitage Cemetery. I may have a chance to soon visit Greene County, Illinois and this cemetery. Can you give me directions as to how to get there. Thank you. Ann Marie Gelven Rogers

Shirley, I'm Kathy from Clinton Co. Ill. Sorry for the returning your own msg but it's the only way I know to send you a msg. I'm not very good at this computer stuff yet. I tried to send you a msg the other day but I think I failed. So will try again. Just wanted to say how much I appreciate the work you and your team on doing on the Greene and Scott county sites. Your sites are hands above any I have found in Ill, Mo, Ark, Tenn and Miss. Believe me I've been through most of them looking for my JOHN ROSE and MARTHA J. BURRIS. I haven't found anything on the sites but they are so informative and easy for people like me with only basic computer skills. You and the others helping you are providing a great service and your efforts show that you care about Ill genealogy information. Thanks agian for all your efforts. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley Aleguas <saleguas@motion.net> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: New Online > Greene County: Book 2 - Coroner's Inquest Hearings - 1884-1919 > > 1881 Sangamon Co. Bios: Hay (2), Ridgely (4) > > 1885 Greene Co. Bio: McKabney > > 1891 Macoupin Co. Bios: Eldred (2) > > 1904 Sangamon Bio: Boysel > > 1905 Greene Co. Bios: Eldred (5), Hubbard > > All can be found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/p2index.html > > > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > >

I am searching for birth, marriage and death  information on James Crouch.  His middle name may be Hiter. I need specific references that I can go to for proof.  Family history (word of mouth) tells me that he was born February 25, 1825 or 1827 in Tennessee; that he married Anna Elizabeth Range about March 16, 1848 in Washington County, Tennessee; that he died in Macoupin County, or McDonough County, Illinois, February 17, 1863 and was buried in Bushnell Cemetery.  I also know that he had a daughter, Martha Emily Crouch born November 10, 1859 in Greenfield, Illinois. Thank you for any help. Ann Marie Gelven Rogers

CROUCH, James H. 17 Feb 1863 age 38y CROUCH, Mary E. 14 May 1865 age 38y 10m 9d; Wife of Elbert Crouch CROUCH, Lucinda 29 Jan 1894 age 80y 5m 14d; Wife of Martin Crouch CROUCH, Martin 1 Sep 1878 age 60y 10m 28d CROUCH, John E. 27 Mar 1858 age 16y 1m 23d; Son of J. & T. Crouch CROUCH, Poller A. 25 Oct 1858 age 12y 16d; son of J. T T. Crouch CROUCH, Franky 28 Dec 1882 31 Jul 1884 Son of J.L. & J.A. CROUCH, Mary Jane 9 Dec 1864 age 27y 9m 24d; Dau of T.H. & J.A. CROUCH, Sanford Hermitage Cemetery Sec. 26 SW 1/4 SE 1/4, Twp. 11 N, R. 10 W Rubicon Township Greene County, Illinois Taken from http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index_gre-scot.html Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: <AAnninelli@aol.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: [ILGREENE] James Crouch I am searching for birth, marriage and death information on James Crouch. His middle name may be Hiter. I need specific references that I can go to for proof. Family history (word of mouth) tells me that he was born February 25, 1825 or 1827 in Tennessee; that he married Anna Elizabeth Range about March 16, 1848 in Washington County, Tennessee; that he died in Macoupin County, or McDonough County, Illinois, February 17, 1863 and was buried in Bushnell Cemetery. I also know that he had a daughter, Martha Emily Crouch born November 10, 1859 in Greenfield, Illinois. Thank you for any help. Ann Marie Gelven Rogers ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thank you.....I'll give it a try.

Dann: If you don't get a reply, you can order Illinois newspapers on microfilm. It must be done through your local library. The rental for the rolls cost (or did the last time I ordered), $1.00. They must be kept at your local library, but they can stay there a month. You do not have to be an Illinois resident to order. Check out availiable newspapers and ordering information at http://www.library.uiuc.edu/techserv/inp/database/search_form.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nofretsbass@aol.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:08 PM Subject: [ILGREENE] Helena Schmidt > Greetings All: My great grandmother, Helena Schmidt, died > on April 10, 1908, in Jalappa, Greene Co. Illinois. > She was married to Jacob Frech, also in Jalappa. > Does anyone have access to the Carrollton Patriot newspaper either > physically or a database, who could look for > her obituary ? > Thanks, > Dann > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Greetings All: My great grandmother, Helena Schmidt, died on April 10, 1908, in Jalappa, Greene Co. Illinois. She was married to Jacob Frech, also in Jalappa. Does anyone have access to the Carrollton Patriot newspaper either physically or a database, who could look for her obituary ? Thanks, Dann

Hi Diane, Yes, please send your information about Marilda and Absalom. It helps to compare and fill in missing pieces. I'm sorry I can't be more help with Mary's line. I didn't even have her parents name. Thanks for the information you have sent! Sue Barney sebarney@infowest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <DWahlst248@aol.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [ILGREENE] Absolam Bradley > Hi Sue, > > I have found a few of you Cousins related to Marilda Mayberry wife. One > cousin gave me the info that I needed, that I was indeed related to Absalom > and Mary. John was b Dec 1842 North of Apple Creek, Greene Co, IL. He > married Mary Coats on > Sept 29, 1863 in Alton, Madison Co, IL. He died Apr 10, 1902 in Alton, > Madison Co, IL. He had 5 children with Mary. Charles Curtis Clinton, Robert > Calvin Bradley, Virginia Catherine Bradley, Harry Bradley, and Clara Genevera > Bradley. I don't know what happened to Rueben b abt 1838, but Mary b 1845 > died about 1850 per Cousin Karen. I've done some research on Marilda's line > if you need any info, maybe I have it. Her parents were Margaret Barnard and > Joshua Mayberry I believe. Is that what you have? Do you have parents on > Mary, by chance? I have Susannah Barnard and James Mayberry, but other than > them coming from NC, haven't had too much luck with that line. Please keep > in touch. Your Cuz, diane > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Jeannie Smith, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:wordgenius@aol.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 02/04/2003 5:42:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, dgirth@yahoo.com writes: << If someone finds a listing that is somewhat incomplete or incorrect, do you want to know about it so that it can be amended to help others who might be looking for the individual and/or family? >> Answer is Yes, yes, yes. Any corrections will go in the notes section unless it's a typo on the part of the transcriptionist. For instance, Debbi knew the full name, b.d. and death date of someone listed only as "Infant Osborn". This will come in handy should anyone need to look up death cert. numbers, for instance. Does anyone want the death notices to be listed by date, also, instead of alphabetically? If there's a need I'll post an alternate list. Notice that in the early 1950's there were several soldiers listed as "killed in action" in Korea. I'm sure that when we post the 1940's deaths that there will be some from WWII also. As we honor the crew of the Columbia this week, take time to honor others who have died in the service of our country. Thanks Jeannie Smith CC for Greene Co., IL on ILGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm

In a message dated 02/04/2003 11:01:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, ILGREENE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I couldn't find any link to "Deaths & Obits" Allen >> Hmm, there is one. It is the last light blue entry on the left side of the Greene Co. page, under "Marriages". It links to another page with 3 listings. The first listing is the 1950-55 death notices. Or, as Dann said, you can get to the death notices directly at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/cpdeaths.htm The death links page is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/grndeath.htm

If you know of a local author who has some short stories, true or fiction, please make me aware of them. I'd like to post their works on the web. I myself, being the author of many short stories. Some are lies and others are much larger lies, I know the pleasure one gets from acknowledgement of being a great author. Thanks Marty Tri-County Newsletter http://www.irtc.net/~triconews/ or Marty Crull RR 1 Box 9 Carrollton, IL 62016

This may be the hard way, but ............http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/cpdeaths.htm Dann

I couldn't find any link to "Deaths & Obits" Allen