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    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question
    2. In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:11:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, SellanaBelle@aol.com writes: > My question is this: When I copy my FTM Family File to a CD, it copies in a > > read only format. That means I cannot work with it. Is there a way I can > copy it to a CD that I will be able to have a working copy? > I, too, would like the answer to this question, for I have the same problem. Thank you. Lorene Vanzant Lorlauvan@aol.com

    02/19/2003 01:19:17
    1. [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question
    2. Hi Greene County Genealogy Friends, Hope you are all doing well and staying nice and warm. My question is this: When I copy my FTM Family File to a CD, it copies in a read only format. That means I cannot work with it. Is there a way I can copy it to a CD that I will be able to have a working copy? Thanks and God Bless! Nancy

    02/19/2003 01:09:19
    1. [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker
    2. Marty Crull
    3. Click on FILE Click on Copy/Export Family File Save in (Pick where you want it to go) I'd suggest My Documents Name it Save type I'd use GEDCOM Then go to MY Doc and right click on the new file and ZIP IT Then copy it to a disk and put it up. If your hard drive crashes, you will need to reinstall the FTM program and then add the new file just by opening it and saving it to the progam FTM. If you want to back up the entire harddrive then you'll need to follow your computer back up recommendations. Thanks Marty

    02/19/2003 01:06:44
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. Tex, You have some very good points about this subject!

    02/19/2003 01:01:45
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question
    2. Kent
    3. IF you are coping your back up to cd and need to renovate , use the "Restore from backup" option. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lorlauvan@aol.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:39:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > triconews@irtc.net writes: > > > Version #10 allows it to be saved as a PDF file, but I'm not exactly sure > > what type of file you are wanting to save it as. > > > Marty, I have version 10. I backup my family files on CDs. If I lost my > hard drive, how could I place all that information onto a new or renovated > computer? As it is now, they are "Read Only" files on the CDs. Thanks for > your help > > Lorene Vanzant > Lorlauvan@aol.com > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Jeannie Smith, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:wordgenius@aol.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/19/2003 01:01:29
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. I was just be thankful to be able to receive a copy of what I needed at a reasonable cost. God Bless!

    02/19/2003 12:54:57
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question
    2. Marty Crull
    3. What versions are you both using? Version #10 allows it to be saved as a PDF file, but I'm not exactly sure what type of file you are wanting to save it as. GEDCOM, TXT, DOC.. Please specify. Marty ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lorlauvan@aol.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question > In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:11:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > SellanaBelle@aol.com writes: > > > My question is this: When I copy my FTM Family File to a CD, it copies in a > > > > read only format. That means I cannot work with it. Is there a way I can > > copy it to a CD that I will be able to have a working copy? > > > > > I, too, would like the answer to this question, for I have the same problem. > Thank you. > > Lorene Vanzant > Lorlauvan@aol.com > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    02/19/2003 12:39:03
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question
    2. Kent
    3. Rename the file,, then it will no longer be read only. example King_rev7 becomes King_rev8. new files are editable copies are read only Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: <SellanaBelle@aol.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question > Hi Greene County Genealogy Friends, Hope you are all doing well and staying > nice and warm. > > My question is this: When I copy my FTM Family File to a CD, it copies in a > read only format. That means I cannot work with it. Is there a way I can > copy it to a CD that I will be able to have a working copy? > > Thanks and God Bless! Nancy > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks go to RootsWeb. http://www.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    02/19/2003 12:33:41
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. nls
    3. As an out-of-stater myself, who does a lot of research in IL: I would have no problem with being charged more than an IL resident, for exactly the reason Shirley gives. You guys pay the state taxes, I don't, but I'm still getting the services. I have done research in other states that have the two-tiered system, and it doesn't bother me a bit. Just my two-cents (or -dollars) worth. Nan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Aleguas" <saleguas@motion.net> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill > One thing I haven't seen mentioned - > > I can understand why those individuals who live out of state would think the > bill unfair. However, those of us who still live in Illinois pay taxes > which go towards paying the salaries and benefits of all state employees. I > think Dr. Daly felt that since we are, in effect, paying for the Archives > and Archival expenses it was more equitable to charge the "lookup or > research" fee for those individuals living outside the state of Illinois. > > While a modest fee isn't unreasonable, I know he doesn't want a two tiered > charge system (one fee for in-state and another for out of state). > Apparently they tried something like that in past years and it was a > bookkeeping nightmare. The problem with the free look-ups came about > because of the sheer volume of requests - they are still working a backlog > of over 18000 requests. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> > To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:45 AM > Subject: Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill > > > > I tend to agree with MJ Bradley as to the cost for the > > upcoming bill by Rep Gary Hannig. > > > > However, it seems to me that those who walk in should > > pay more because the person has to drop what they are > > doing and find the record. When it comes to a mail-in > > request with payment or even an email with online > > payment, the search can be delayed for a number of > > days if so desired by the staff. > > > > I do agree that something needs to be charged. In a > > lot of counties I get just a xerox copy for around > > 50-cents if I do the lookup in the books (when > > permitted). Other places will charge $1 or even $1.50 > > per xerox copy (one side of one sheet of paper). If I > > desire a certified copy then the cost can range from > > $5.00 to $25.00 regardless of who does the search. > > > > If I still resided in Illinois I would support $3 to > > $5 charge for someone to do the research plus the cost > > of each copy (one side of a sheet of page) as > > appropriate to cover the maintenance and supplies of > > the copier. > > > > Even though the individuals are state employees, they > > are paid. The more requests that are received > > (walk-in or any type of mail in) the more chance of > > additional staff members needed. The few dollars for > > their service probably won't cover their payroll or > > other benefits paid by the state. > > > > In addition, we should be glad that the archives and > > the library aren't being the subject of a closure to > > cut costs as in the State of Florida. Those who want > > to add their names to an on-line petition which will > > be sent to Gov. Jeb Bush to re-think his proposed > > budget cuts can do so until the end of the month. I > > don't have the exact URL address, but I believe if you > > can find the Florida State Genealogical (or History) > > Society's website there will be something there to > > connect to. > > > > > > Debbi Geer > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    02/19/2003 12:16:54
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. Debbi Geer
    3. That's true sometimes. I have been there numerous times when novices walk in and the staff member will do the actual work as part of the instruction. Debbi __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

    02/19/2003 11:38:44
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Family Tree Maker Question
    2. Debbi Geer
    3. Nancy I don't think you'll be able to make a workable copy. The same thing happened to me with PAF. The only thing I found that worked was to take the readable copy and make a copy of it. Then I was able to use the copy as a workable copy. This was on the computer when I had to use my CD backup copies for a re-installation of my windows program which required everything to be removed for the new installation. Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

    02/19/2003 10:35:39
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. Debbi Geer
    3. Just a small comment to those who live in Illinois and have the idea that only Illinois residents pay state taxes. Majority of the residents in Illinois do not realize that State of Illinois has income supplemented by individuals who live in another state for one reason or another but have Illinois income which is under the income tax jurisdiction of the State of Illinois. For 23-1/2 years I worked at SIU Edwardsville. Except for the first 3 years, I lived where I am presently - in St Louis County Missouri and commuted across the Mississippi River 5 days a week. I was still required to pay Illinois state income tax on my income and any other income which was obtained from such income (interest on a bank account etc). The State of Missouri recognized with proper tax forms that my portion of our household income was from Illinois and as such did not require me to pay Missouri income tax on that portion. Also there are other states which border Illinois which have similar income tax laws. Then you have to figure the number of retirees from the State of Illinois who have retired to states such as Arizona, Texas or Florida just to name a few. If a two-tier plan would be devised, I for one would have to oppose it for those who are required to pay Illinois state income tax but live outside of Illinois. The cost incurred for identical requests is the same - time, copy, mailing supplies, postage - regardless of where it is destined for in the US. If Illinois would have a two-tier plan (in-state and out-of-state), then think how many other states might follow suit. How many of us live in the state where our ancestors lived and need the documents for our proof in our research? The cost for genealogy would really skyrocket and I don't think many of us are ready for that especially those on limited income (retirees). Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

    02/19/2003 10:25:22
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. Shirley Aleguas
    3. One thing I haven't seen mentioned - I can understand why those individuals who live out of state would think the bill unfair. However, those of us who still live in Illinois pay taxes which go towards paying the salaries and benefits of all state employees. I think Dr. Daly felt that since we are, in effect, paying for the Archives and Archival expenses it was more equitable to charge the "lookup or research" fee for those individuals living outside the state of Illinois. While a modest fee isn't unreasonable, I know he doesn't want a two tiered charge system (one fee for in-state and another for out of state). Apparently they tried something like that in past years and it was a bookkeeping nightmare. The problem with the free look-ups came about because of the sheer volume of requests - they are still working a backlog of over 18000 requests. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill > I tend to agree with MJ Bradley as to the cost for the > upcoming bill by Rep Gary Hannig. > > However, it seems to me that those who walk in should > pay more because the person has to drop what they are > doing and find the record. When it comes to a mail-in > request with payment or even an email with online > payment, the search can be delayed for a number of > days if so desired by the staff. > > I do agree that something needs to be charged. In a > lot of counties I get just a xerox copy for around > 50-cents if I do the lookup in the books (when > permitted). Other places will charge $1 or even $1.50 > per xerox copy (one side of one sheet of paper). If I > desire a certified copy then the cost can range from > $5.00 to $25.00 regardless of who does the search. > > If I still resided in Illinois I would support $3 to > $5 charge for someone to do the research plus the cost > of each copy (one side of a sheet of page) as > appropriate to cover the maintenance and supplies of > the copier. > > Even though the individuals are state employees, they > are paid. The more requests that are received > (walk-in or any type of mail in) the more chance of > additional staff members needed. The few dollars for > their service probably won't cover their payroll or > other benefits paid by the state. > > In addition, we should be glad that the archives and > the library aren't being the subject of a closure to > cut costs as in the State of Florida. Those who want > to add their names to an on-line petition which will > be sent to Gov. Jeb Bush to re-think his proposed > budget cuts can do so until the end of the month. I > don't have the exact URL address, but I believe if you > can find the Florida State Genealogical (or History) > Society's website there will be something there to > connect to. > > > Debbi Geer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    02/19/2003 07:07:07
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. Marty Crull
    3. Debbie and Bradley are doing a great job. I'd like to see the charges as well. I like "Free Stuff" as well as anyone else. But not at the expense of others, that is just what it. Some volunteer has to do the work in order for some one else to give it away free and that just isn't right. Remember one thing. If you didn't do the work then it isn't yours! It's someone else's and you are taking credit for it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Geer" <dgirth@yahoo.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill > I tend to agree with MJ Bradley as to the cost for the > upcoming bill by Rep Gary Hannig. > > However, it seems to me that those who walk in should > pay more because the person has to drop what they are > doing and find the record. When it comes to a mail-in > request with payment or even an email with online > payment, the search can be delayed for a number of > days if so desired by the staff. > > I do agree that something needs to be charged. In a > lot of counties I get just a xerox copy for around > 50-cents if I do the lookup in the books (when > permitted). Other places will charge $1 or even $1.50 > per xerox copy (one side of one sheet of paper). If I > desire a certified copy then the cost can range from > $5.00 to $25.00 regardless of who does the search. > > If I still resided in Illinois I would support $3 to > $5 charge for someone to do the research plus the cost > of each copy (one side of a sheet of page) as > appropriate to cover the maintenance and supplies of > the copier. > > Even though the individuals are state employees, they > are paid. The more requests that are received > (walk-in or any type of mail in) the more chance of > additional staff members needed. The few dollars for > their service probably won't cover their payroll or > other benefits paid by the state. > > In addition, we should be glad that the archives and > the library aren't being the subject of a closure to > cut costs as in the State of Florida. Those who want > to add their names to an on-line petition which will > be sent to Gov. Jeb Bush to re-think his proposed > budget cuts can do so until the end of the month. I > don't have the exact URL address, but I believe if you > can find the Florida State Genealogical (or History) > Society's website there will be something there to > connect to. > > > Debbi Geer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    02/19/2003 06:23:34
    1. [ILGREENE] STATE ARchivces
    2. rmiller
    3. My experience from the State Archives, is this... you go there, they show you the books, and how to get started, how to load the film, and where it is located, then you do the work yourself, unless you run into a problem and then they help you look through the film. They are very pleasant people to deal with, very under staffed, and are looking for volunteers to continue to add information online. The cost as of January were very reasonable if you were able to go there yourself the first two copies are free and after that each copy is .50. I do not know what the cost is if you have them look it up for you. I do know that at some point in time they hope to do the free online requests again. I forget just how many thousands of requests they were behind when I was there in January. For convenience of those of us who work during the normal week days, they are open on Saturday from 8:30 to 3:00 P.M. I myself found it to be a most enjoyable trip, and found the people to be very helpful, and very eager to help in any way that they could. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJ Bradley" <mj_bradley@hotmail.com> To: <ILGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:30 AM Subject: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill > I realize that every state is in a budget crunch, some worse than others, > and they are trying to get creative in ways to raise money and irritate the > fewest number of people.. > I don't have a problem with charging a look-up fee but I am still not clear > on weather this charge is per request or per page or chapter of what... I > also feel that as with most states it is the out of town folks that will pay > the majority of the cost.. As this may seen fair to those who live in > Illinios, it seems unfair to those of us who do not.. > I agree that those who can go into the State Archives and do the research > personally could be exempt, the question is does the person at the archives > do less work for a walk in then they do for a mail or e-mail request? I > don't know the answer that is why I ask. > > Just my humble opinion as an Illinioian stuck in Texas!! > MJ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    02/19/2003 04:41:35
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. Ditto, M. J. Bradley from a past resident of Illinois who now lives in Denver.

    02/19/2003 04:40:54
    1. Re: [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. Debbi Geer
    3. I tend to agree with MJ Bradley as to the cost for the upcoming bill by Rep Gary Hannig. However, it seems to me that those who walk in should pay more because the person has to drop what they are doing and find the record. When it comes to a mail-in request with payment or even an email with online payment, the search can be delayed for a number of days if so desired by the staff. I do agree that something needs to be charged. In a lot of counties I get just a xerox copy for around 50-cents if I do the lookup in the books (when permitted). Other places will charge $1 or even $1.50 per xerox copy (one side of one sheet of paper). If I desire a certified copy then the cost can range from $5.00 to $25.00 regardless of who does the search. If I still resided in Illinois I would support $3 to $5 charge for someone to do the research plus the cost of each copy (one side of a sheet of page) as appropriate to cover the maintenance and supplies of the copier. Even though the individuals are state employees, they are paid. The more requests that are received (walk-in or any type of mail in) the more chance of additional staff members needed. The few dollars for their service probably won't cover their payroll or other benefits paid by the state. In addition, we should be glad that the archives and the library aren't being the subject of a closure to cut costs as in the State of Florida. Those who want to add their names to an on-line petition which will be sent to Gov. Jeb Bush to re-think his proposed budget cuts can do so until the end of the month. I don't have the exact URL address, but I believe if you can find the Florida State Genealogical (or History) Society's website there will be something there to connect to. Debbi Geer __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

    02/19/2003 01:45:01
    1. [ILGREENE] Illinois Bill
    2. MJ Bradley
    3. I realize that every state is in a budget crunch, some worse than others, and they are trying to get creative in ways to raise money and irritate the fewest number of people.. I don't have a problem with charging a look-up fee but I am still not clear on weather this charge is per request or per page or chapter of what... I also feel that as with most states it is the out of town folks that will pay the majority of the cost.. As this may seen fair to those who live in Illinios, it seems unfair to those of us who do not.. I agree that those who can go into the State Archives and do the research personally could be exempt, the question is does the person at the archives do less work for a walk in then they do for a mail or e-mail request? I don't know the answer that is why I ask. Just my humble opinion as an Illinioian stuck in Texas!! MJ _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

    02/18/2003 11:30:37
    1. [ILGREENE] Re: Thursday 2/20 Bill 498 Hearing
    2. Shirley Aleguas
    3. My reply should have stated that the wording change would apply to all of the items listed in the bill not just death certificates. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony & Linda Kmiecik To: Willard Jackson ; Ollie Schwallenstecker ; Lil Ashley ; Kathy Cherry Hopkins ; Kathleen Mirabella ; Joy Goodwin ; Joan Darr ; Jill Secoy ; Don Nevins ; Dan Dixon ; Cindy Leonard ; Carolyn Norris ; Gloria Frazier ; Georgia Ferry ; Mary McKenzie ; Phyllis Pitchford ; Carolynn & Frank Bettis ; Marilyn Galvan ; Ann & Ron Hoffstetter ; Ray Luken Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: Thursday 2/20 Bill 498 Hearing I propose that some of us attend the hearing of Bill 498 (see text below) on Thursday, 2/20 at the Capitol. It is scheduled to be heard at 2:00 PM in Room 122B on the west side of the Capitol. They do have a sign-in procedure for anyone wishing to be heard for or against a bill. Perhaps we could meet on the Virden Square at noon, and park extra cars on the south side of the square where normally few cars park. This will give us adequate time to get to Springfield, park, and get into the Capitol by 1:00 PM or so. Please email or call me (217-627-3826) if you plan to attend. I plan to check with Hannig's office that morning to be sure the bill is still scheduled for a 2:00 PM hearing. For those who cannot attend, please call Gary Hannig's Springfield office to register your opinion on the bill. The phone number is 217-782-8071, and the contact at the office is Carol Sheehorn (spelling unknown). At the very least, we feel $7 is far too much money, and might feel more kindly toward the Bill if the charge were only $2 or $3. At $7 per item, it wouldn't take long to rack up a $30 or more bill. We realize in this tight economy, with the State having a huge budget deficit, they are trying to find income wherever possible, but it shouldn't be out of the pockets of family historians. "SYNOPSIS OF HOUSE BILL 0498 Amends the Secretary of State Act. Provides that a fee of $7 per research request for copies of non-certified death certificates, civil war muster records, and census records shall be paid to the Secretary of State and deposited into the Archives Research Fund. Amends the State Finance Act. Creates the Archives Research Fund and provides that moneys deposited into the fund may, subject to appropriation, be used by the Secretary of State for expenses of conducting archival research of Archive records. Effective July 1, 2003." Please spread the word to any and all Illinois societies and researchers. Linda Kmiecik

    02/18/2003 06:50:10
    1. [ILGREENE] Re: Thursday 2/20 Bill 498 Hearing
    2. Shirley Aleguas
    3. The Archives (Dr. Daly - personally gave us this information on Friday, Feb. 14, 2003) is working to change the wording in the bill so that the charge for research and obtaining death certificates would ONLY apply to out of state requests. In addition, they are working to have wording added to the bill which would state that there would be NO charge for researchers visiting the Archives in person to obtain certificates and that there would be no charge for Illinois residents. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony & Linda Kmiecik To: Willard Jackson ; Ollie Schwallenstecker ; Lil Ashley ; Kathy Cherry Hopkins ; Kathleen Mirabella ; Joy Goodwin ; Joan Darr ; Jill Secoy ; Don Nevins ; Dan Dixon ; Cindy Leonard ; Carolyn Norris ; Gloria Frazier ; Georgia Ferry ; Mary McKenzie ; Phyllis Pitchford ; Carolynn & Frank Bettis ; Marilyn Galvan ; Ann & Ron Hoffstetter ; Ray Luken Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: Thursday 2/20 Bill 498 Hearing I propose that some of us attend the hearing of Bill 498 (see text below) on Thursday, 2/20 at the Capitol. It is scheduled to be heard at 2:00 PM in Room 122B on the west side of the Capitol. They do have a sign-in procedure for anyone wishing to be heard for or against a bill. Perhaps we could meet on the Virden Square at noon, and park extra cars on the south side of the square where normally few cars park. This will give us adequate time to get to Springfield, park, and get into the Capitol by 1:00 PM or so. Please email or call me (217-627-3826) if you plan to attend. I plan to check with Hannig's office that morning to be sure the bill is still scheduled for a 2:00 PM hearing. For those who cannot attend, please call Gary Hannig's Springfield office to register your opinion on the bill. The phone number is 217-782-8071, and the contact at the office is Carol Sheehorn (spelling unknown). At the very least, we feel $7 is far too much money, and might feel more kindly toward the Bill if the charge were only $2 or $3. At $7 per item, it wouldn't take long to rack up a $30 or more bill. We realize in this tight economy, with the State having a huge budget deficit, they are trying to find income wherever possible, but it shouldn't be out of the pockets of family historians. "SYNOPSIS OF HOUSE BILL 0498 Amends the Secretary of State Act. Provides that a fee of $7 per research request for copies of non-certified death certificates, civil war muster records, and census records shall be paid to the Secretary of State and deposited into the Archives Research Fund. Amends the State Finance Act. Creates the Archives Research Fund and provides that moneys deposited into the fund may, subject to appropriation, be used by the Secretary of State for expenses of conducting archival research of Archive records. Effective July 1, 2003." Please spread the word to any and all Illinois societies and researchers. Linda Kmiecik

    02/18/2003 06:46:04