Checked cemetery books, found Solomon Baines, b May 1805-- d 1883, Hickory Grove Cem. Wright Township. Book is in alphabatacal order, other Baines; Mary 1867-1929, Racheal F 1838-1922, Robert 1864-1907. Kent

I think we've all talked before. We seem to share the same names, locations and dates, but no connections yet. With such similarities, there must be a thread somewhere--almost all coming to IL from NC. To this I've added the Lovelace and Morrow name more recently. I have Charles Lovelace and Rebecca Morrow. A son (Allen) married Acenith Chipman in Greene County. Later the young Lovelaces and her parents Seth and Sarah Lorton Chipman went to Fannin County Texas. Apparently they joined the elder Lovelaces there. The Lovelaces (Rebecca Morrow) are buried in Brown Cemetery in Bonham, Fannin County TX. I also have Bacon family in addition to the Chipman-Lorton family--they were here in 1818 when Illinois became a state. All in Greene County. I have most of the info on them except death record for Jacob Gordon Bacon. That gives me 7 family names about which I have found some great information and some very serious dead ends--It's tough to have so many lines eminating from the same place. I often have to stop and get the names in the right family when I start skipping around too much. Is there a possibility some records might be in Jersey County? Is this location close enough geographically or near the time the county boundaries changed? Right now, I'm waiting on an answer back from NARA in Wash, DC on a James Allen buried next to Delia (Davis) Allen in Macoupin County, with nothing on his tombstone but his Civil War outfit. I heard from them to say I had not completed my credit card data completely. :-(( I did so and resent--guess I had to get back in the queue again. I was intrigued by the suggestion there might be a settlement large enough to support a church its records. And I guess I need to look at the Atlas. Jan

Incidentally, Apple Creek runs basically east to west approximately T11N through Whitehall and Walkerville townships. It passes approximately 4-5 miles north of Carrollton. It runs through Greene, Macoupin, Morgan and Sangamon Counties. If the server isn't messed up, you might find a map of it here: http://mapping.usgs.gov:8888/gnis/owa/MapMultPoint?id=403577

Jersey County is directly south of Greene County, and was formed from Greene County on 28 Feb 1839. http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljersey/timeline.html

Looking for information on Nathan Allen with a wife Mary Elizabeth Catharine Farrow. She was a school teacher from Calhoun County, born in Virginia (to Charles and Mary Farrow).

There was an Apple Creek Precinct in the Greene Co. census of 1850 I believe. I don't know it's boundaries, but my ancestor Jesse W. Hicks lived in it, and he lived just east of Athensville, nearly on the Macoupin Co. line, and Apple Creek rolled right by his farm. Juli Claussen

At: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/index.html and http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/p2index.html Morgan County: Addition obits for Bethel Cemetery - thanks to Charla Sulphur Springs Cemetery - with obits & pictures from Bob 1878 Morgan Bios - this index is now all online Greene County: Coronor's Book II entries for: Adkins, Ballard, Canady, Hopper, Little, Mayberry, Retherford (2), Stone (2), Suttles (2), Ware, Watts, and Winn Coroner's Book I entries for: Baines & McConathy 1881 Sangamon Bios : Ingles Williams 1885 Greene Bios: Black (2), Hobson (3) 1891 Sangamon Bio: Bolles 1891 Macoupin Bios: Kable (4) 1892 Cass Bio: Taylor 1904 Sangamon Bios: Tilson & Willett (2) Obits from Betty for Henderson & Reece

Rockbridge is nowhere near Apple creek. Allen Handling

I'd like to put in my word for my Davis family who were in Greene Co., Apple Creek area, in at least the 1830's. They were connected by marriage with Morrow and Lovelace and Bell families also. They were from North Carolina before coming to Illinois. If anyone comes across references to John Davis, William J. Davis (may appear as W. Jackson Davis), James Davis,(may appear as James Davis Sr.), Ransom Davis, James Arthur Davis, Thomas Davis) would love to know what you've found. And I'll share information that I have. Lois Willand ---------- >From: Mary Ann Kaylor <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Applecreek >Date: Sun, Feb 11, 2001, 11:44 AM > > According to an 1876 Atlast of IL, Rockbridge is located in the SW part of > Greene Co and is only a mile or so from the Jersey County Line. Macoupin > Co. is located a short distance to the West. Taylor Creek runs by > Rockbridge, not Apple Creek. Apple Creek is more in the center of the > County running east and west from Walkerville to and between Carrollton and > White Hall then meanders to the NW. > > Hope this helps. > > Mary Ann > At 12:26 PM 02/11/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>Forgot to add the dates it would have been around 1830"s >> >>Your Allen and Lovelace are mostlikly related to my Nathan Allen group whoes >>wife was a Lovelace and they were at the head of Apple Creek close to >>Rockbridge? I am trying to find that location also. >> >> >>==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > > CONVERSE CONNECTIONS > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~converse/index.html > CONVERSE MAIL LIST Administrator > > MY FAMILY GENEALOGY > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html > > KAYLOR MAIL LIST Administrator > TEDROW MAIL LIST Administrator > > "Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have > trouble remembering how to fly!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks go to RootsWeb. Your generous donations to > RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >

The Morrow's would have been William and Jean Morrow who I think to have been the parents of Elizabeth Morrow who married James Martin Allen son of Zachariah Allen.

Forgot to add the dates it would have been around 1830"s Your Allen and Lovelace are mostlikly related to my Nathan Allen group whoes wife was a Lovelace and they were at the head of Apple Creek close to Rockbridge? I am trying to find that location also.

I am interested in the Allens and Morrows as well, same area. I have a Miss Morrow who married a Lovelace, and an Mr. Allen who married a Davis and another Mr. Allen who married a Hall. Still haven't been able to move forward on them. If a section was called a "settlement" what would those dates be? Jan

According to an 1876 Atlast of IL, Rockbridge is located in the SW part of Greene Co and is only a mile or so from the Jersey County Line. Macoupin Co. is located a short distance to the West. Taylor Creek runs by Rockbridge, not Apple Creek. Apple Creek is more in the center of the County running east and west from Walkerville to and between Carrollton and White Hall then meanders to the NW. Hope this helps. Mary Ann At 12:26 PM 02/11/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Forgot to add the dates it would have been around 1830"s > >Your Allen and Lovelace are mostlikly related to my Nathan Allen group whoes >wife was a Lovelace and they were at the head of Apple Creek close to >Rockbridge? I am trying to find that location also. > > >==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== >Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm CONVERSE CONNECTIONS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~converse/index.html CONVERSE MAIL LIST Administrator MY FAMILY GENEALOGY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST Administrator TEDROW MAIL LIST Administrator "Friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly!"

Could anyone tell me where the Applecreek settlement was? Where there any early Presbyterian Churches in that area . Family story has it that the family first settled at Applecreek. Another states that it was at the mouth of Apple Creek. The ones I am looking for are the Allen's andMorrow's. Thank You Janice M. West

Have you looked at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmaga/p2index.html , 1905 boi's have both Allen and Morrow's. The Apple Creek runs clear across greene county. I would look at 1880 cenusus Athensville and White Hall and at the Allen Cemterey records page. I have a little Morrow info. Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: Applecreek > Could anyone tell me where the Applecreek settlement was? Where there any > early Presbyterian Churches in that area . Family story has it that the > family first settled at Applecreek. > Another states that it was at the mouth of Apple Creek. The ones I am > looking for are the Allen's andMorrow's. > > Thank You > Janice M. West > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Donna Kilroy, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:[email protected] >

Melodi, I checked the cemetery books that I have and found a few Hartman folks, but there are no Bradfords listed in any of the books that I have. Nicholas Herman Hartman b 1869 d 1959 buried in Eldred Cemetery Emma Charlotte Hartman b 12/28/1869 d 8/19/1958 buried in Eldred Cemetery. Not exactly what you were looking for I know but it will narrow the search for documents. All of the other Hartmans I found were buried in St. Johns Cemetery they are: Helena b 1874 d 1960 Joseph A. b 1865 d 1948 Louis J. b 1872 d 1926 Mary M. b 1873 d 1946 wife of Louis Beatrice M b 4/17/02 d 11/9/60 Damon A b 5/8/03 d William Damon b 5/21/33 d 4/16/52 Anna b 1902 George b 1899 d 1950 Barbara Key b 1953 d 1955 TOM SAXTON

Just this past week -- a request for a copy of a 16 page 1842 probate record (estate sale) -- a one week turn-around. Really speedy people. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:29 AM Subject: county courthouse records > Does anyone know how much and how willing the staff is for getting copies of > records in the County Courthouse? > > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Greene County USGenWeb Homepage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgreene/green.htm > >

Hi Listers, Please help if you can. Thanks so much. What I would like is BCT, Obit, and/or DCT if possible.  I am really interested in the Obit and DCT the most.  As far as I know--I am the only member of my family left.  I am searching for medical history. 1.  Jacqueline Leonteen Hartman--Born 03/17/1931 in Carrollton, ILL, Greene County         and died 08/1978 in Greene County.( Married name was Morehouse) 2.  Herman Antone Hartman--born 09/21/1898 in Wrights, ILL, Greene County and     died in CA. (Have Obit and DCT) 3.  Alma  Mae Bradford--born 06/11/1910 in Eldred, ILL, Greene County and died in     CA (Have obit & DCT)  (Married name was Hartman) 4.  Thomas Bradford (Alma's Dad) was born and died in Greene County no dates 5.  Bertha Lydia Goans (Alma's Mom) born & died in Greene County no dates     (Married name Bradford) 6.  Nicholus Herman Hartman (Herman's Dad) born & died in Greene County no        dates 7.  Emma Bridgge (Herman's Mom) died in Greene County no date     (Married name Hartman) Sorry the details are not full--any help is appreciated. If you don't have any information; but have the address to the court house in Greene County--I will try and contact them. Thanks again,  Melodi

Who are you lookin for? Give us as much info as you have and we'll be glad to help. Karen

I have a few references for Greene County. What names are you looking for, and approximate dates? [email protected] wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My name is Melodi. I am looking for someone who can help me do some > research. I am planting my family tree and finally have half of it done that > is 6 generations on my Dad's side. I have names; but no information from > Mom's side. They are from Greene County--several cities. > > Thanks in advance, Melodi > > ==== ILGREENE Mailing List ==== > 2,500 Discussion Lists!!! USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks go to RootsWeb. Your generous donations to > RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222