Trev YES, Edmund's m2 was an Elizabeth Rice b 1793 Tenn. Don't know where when etc. BELIEVED to be out of Maury Co Tenn, but no one has ever stated anything. ALL of my gen2 (currently anyway !) Baker line m people from Tenn. I figured that they probably were in the Maury Co area, since Ed spent a few years there. His m1 was Saley (Sally?) Thorn of Richmond Co NC. (ALSO a line that no one wants to claim!!). I was sent a Rice tree that showed Samuel Moore as s/o Allen Floyd Rice + Martha Patsy Rice. But we all seem to dispute it and can get no response from the person it came from. Martha being part of the Ebenezer Rice line from Vermont. I figure his m1 d btw 1810-1815. m2 btw 1810 - 1815. Probably closer to 1815. So I guess the best thing to do is ask ANYBODY KNOW WHERE IN TENN THEY HAD WADDLE, STRICKLIN, DONAHUE, GULLEGE, RICE, BAKER ????????? An inquiring mind wants to know !! besides, it would get me OUT of Illinois mailing lists !! snicker. best, steve