I have basically found two batches of Rice family members in Gallatin and White and Hamilton County. One group is from TN, the other had spent some time in KY before coming to IL. I think the ones I have studied are the ones from TN, which includes the Toliver and Joel Rice lines. They apparently came from Vermont to TN. Part of this family moved from Enfield/Sacramento to Ridgway. The Carmi family is from KY, and includes Will S. Rice and Rufus Rice, parents of the John Rice family that now owns a car dealership in Carmi and has $$$. Does this help anyone. Cindy Birk Conley Carmi, IL