Help Please! I'm trying to find something just anything about my Bell family from Gallatin County. My gr/gr/grandmother was Mary Jane Sarah Bell and she lived in Gallatin County when she married my gr/gr/grandfather Robert Crenshaw. From the Gallatin County census I determined that Mary Jane Sarah Bell was born about 1818 in Kentucky. I've been told by others that her parents were immigrants from Ireland and settled in Gallatin County. I know about one brother she had. His was John and he lived with her and her family. (from the census record) They show up in the 1850 Gallatin County census. I would like to learn who her parents were and can't seem to find anything. There is a woman who lived with Mary Jane and her husband by the last name of Rawson according to the census. Does anyone know anything about this Bell family? Sure can use some help. Mary Jane and Robert aren't in the 1860 Gallatin county census - but where did they go? Lacy _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

I made this request sometime ago, but I never saw it come across on the list. Would someone be so kind as to lookup the first husband of Mrs Elizabeth Colbert who m. James Williams 11-20-1886 in Gallatin County. Thanks to all for such an interesting list. Darlene, from the flatland of Kansas.

Terry Looked in the 1880 Census, nationwide and there was no Matilda Logsdon, or Bradford & Emily Deaton. Pulled up all logsdon's and deaton's for Illinois. What were childrens names? Also Check with Gallatin County Historical Society for the books you want. Perhaps they can help you. Also check with the Shawneetown Library. Happy Hunting Diane McPherson names researching: MCPHERSON, MCCLURE, LOVE, SPARKS to name a few

Surnames: BROWN HICKS Submitter: Joann Green Coleman (Jcole22992@aol.com) Date: 23 Mar 2002 Could I please have a obituary look up for Jesse Brown who died in 1841, Gallatin Co. IL. He was married to Mary Hick of NC and had one son, Rev. Martin C. Brown and nine daughters. Many Thanks, Joann Green Coleman

I am researching the Moore and Goforth families in Gallatin/Saline County. I have found an aunt and uncle buried in Eldorado but have gotten little betond that. I know my Grandfather, Columbus Moore had a farm somewhere between Eldorado and Equality (I think) he married Lydia Goforth of Equality. Family oral history says they lost the farm during the depression and moved to St. Louis where the boys finished Hish School. Their Children were: Edgar Louis Moore Wilford Columbus Moore John Wylie Moore James Moore Lydia had a brother Wylie Goforth (wife Berta) who was still alive in the late 50s. I am trying to get data which will take me beyod this point. My Grandfather was Jackson Moore B. ca. 1835 Anything in the records there that might help? Thanks Alan Moore Bellevue, Nebraska

Hi Terry Looked in the 1880 census for all of illinois and couldnt find Matilda Logsdon or Bradford or Emily Deaton. Do you have maybe childrens names or Could they have went by different first names. Diane McPherson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry K. Pyle" <shad@midamer.net> To: <ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 7:18 PM Subject: Look-up request & 2 questions > If anyone has access to the 1880 Gallatin Co, census would you please > look up a couple of names for me? > 1) Matilda (McCoy) Logsdon, she would be about 37/38 & a widow. > > 2) Bradford & Emily Deaton, he was probably in his 40's/50's she in her > 30's. > > Now my questions. Are there birth records available for the years > 1836-40? > > Also, I have tried clicking on an orderform in the books section, but > cannot be found. I am interested in the Census book of 1880, 1900. > > Thanks > Terry > > ______________________________

See what happens when ya get Jon going ? snicker Anything on Edmund yet ? Edmund never owned anything, let alone people....... Thot granpa got that trait about money from SOMEONE.... mom's STILL looking fer buried tin cans......... I've only found full ones so far.......green beans, beets, corn.......... With a quote from "Mars Attacks" .."CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?" BEST steve sspunk@aol.com

--part1_d5.14c28af2.29cd5e49_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_d5.14c28af2.29cd5e49_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Dolluver01@aol.com> From: Dolluver01@aol.com Full-name: Dolluver01 Message-ID: <8.23558bdd.29cd5dd0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:25:52 EST Subject: Re: History or Genealogy To: pattycren@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Patty, I am sorry, you took the last sentence incorrectly. I meant, by reading all the other e-mail letters, and the criticism that had been given, that until you walk in someone's shoes a mile, do not criticize them. In other words, until you know what they have gone through, don't condemn or judge them. Linda --part1_d5.14c28af2.29cd5e49_boundary--

Hello again, I mentioned Duff earlier and there's been a couple of comments, questions, etc. The Duff that features so much in Southern Illinois' Revolutionary War history, as well as the history of the outlaws of Cave-in-Rock is John Duff, also known as John McDuff, John McElduff, and (by the French) Jean Michael Duff. He married Leticia/Letty/Cedy Smith, daughter of Henry Smith. By the early 1780s, both are found in the Kaskaskia area. The Southern Illinois Duff was born in the Carolinas about 1760, possibly late 1759. He often appears in the Kaskaskia records with a Daniel Duff/McDuff/McElduff. There are a pair of brothers in South Carolina by the names of Daniel and John McElduff who inherited part of their grandfather's estate in the 1780s that could be the same pair. I'm waiting from a response to a researcher following that line to see if we have a match. Based on e-mails from another Duff researcher a few years ago, the Duffs someone mentioned in their posting today who are found! in western Kentucky in the 1820s are a different family. I brought up Duff as an example of why more research is needed. The slave catcher I referred to last night is William C. Blakely. Last year a little old lady called Mr. Sisk and told him she had been meaning to call for about three years. She had heard stories about her ancestor that he was a slave catcher, lived in either southern Gallatin or northeastern Hardin counties, and had worked with Crenshaw. I called her the next night. As a sidebar she mentioned that people would borrow money from this ancestor. He would always tell them to come back the next day. After they would leave, he would get in his skiff or canoe and go either up or downriver. The next day he would have the money. When she told me the story, bells went off in my head. The idea of a secret stash out in the woods is a well-known part of Hardin County folklore. No one trusted banks and apparently no one wanted to keep the money in their cabin where it could be found or burned down, so they stashed it in some cave or down some hole. Duff is just one of the people associated with these secret stashes. We also know from the History of Union County, Kentucky, which is just across the river to the east from Gallatin and Hardin counties, that Duff lived at what's now Caseyville, and at one point had three men working with him. By 1886, the local people could only remember the names Blakely, Hall and Hazle. Well, Halls are practically as common as Smiths in western Kentucky, even in 1799, the year the story of the accomplices probably dates. It's also the year a newspaper reports Duff's death. There are Hazles/Hazels downriver at Smithland, Ky., in 1797 and across the river into Pope County by ! the first decade of the 1800s. There's also a John Blakely in what is now Union County at least as early as 1803. He's the father of William, and he settled right across the river from Duff's home in Caseyville at Battery Rock. To be honest, I have not found any paperwork that shows William Blakely as a slave catcher. However, if that's a story that's been passed down by family members, particularly if it comes from someone who may have heard it from a person who knew William, then I'm inclined to believe it. Trust me, being a slave catcher is not something positive that people list on applications to the D.A.R. That's the type of story that families typically want to forget, and often do quite easily enough. But if that's not enough to start connecting the dots, there are even better connections between William and outlaws. While I can't connect William to Crenshaw other than locality, William's connections to the outlaw leader James Ford of Ford Ferry's fame, nearly jumped off the page. William's brother Peleg is mentioned in the will of one of Ford's sons. Apparently, as a teen Peleg was living in the younger Ford's household. The one thing the family remembers about Peleg according to the History of the Travis Family, is that he was a good card player. Now there's a trait you might pick up living with a river pirate and highwayman. Then, after communicating with three other Blakely and Womack researchers we discovered something interesting about William's second or third wife. She was the mistress of the other Ford son and named as the mother of one of his kids in his will. William even named a son by that wife after a member of the Ford family. I usually go about connecting the dots by digging out various tidbits of information from court documents, newspapers, family Bibles, e-mails from other researchers, old books, you name it. I then put everything in chronological order. Crenshaw's financial ups and downs really show up this way when you compare the land purchases with the mortgages then later with the court judgments against him. Another way is to literally map out the information. Find a group of landowners, look at their names, then start comparing those names to marriage records and probate papers. It's no surprise that young men and women usually married neighboring young men and women. It's not uncommon to find siblings marrying siblings. (Although I admit it does make for interesting family trees when you find three sisters marrying a father and two sons, as happens in my ancestry - it was the father's second wife). Just as I have not written the final word on Crenshaw as the research is still ongoing, I haven't written the final word on Duff. No one has. I may know where there are some documents that mention him that I still need to hit, but that doesn't stop someone from running across something in another pile of documents somewhere. Just as we haven't found all of our Crenshaw information in just Gallatin County, we have to look in other counties and states as well. I don't know if it was on this list or not, but recently a poster noted how one of his ancestors jumped back and forth from the Louisville, Kentucky, area to Natchez, Mississippi. He doubted the evidence he saw because he didn't think they would have moved around that much. Amazingly, they did move around that much -- at least the men. A family might raise a crop of potatoes in Kentucky or Illinois, build a flatboat and the men would float down to Natchez or all the way to New Orleans. And they would do this every year. Richer planters might own farms spread out across multiple state. O. C. Vanlandingham, an early Shawneetown businessman had plantations in central Kentucky as well as Louisiana at the same time he maintained an office in Gallatin County. Equality grocery store owner Thomas H. Leavell (one of my great-something uncles) not only owned the store in Equality during the 1830s, but is also found in Natchez and paying taxes on a slave in Concordia Parish, Louisiana, which is right across the river from Natchez. I've also found someone with the same name down in Louisiana in the 1820s that's probably him as well. John Hart Crenshaw's 1905 biography states he owned 30,000 acres. We can't prove that yet. We've found around 11,000 acres in Gallatin and surrounding counties and another 4,000 acres north of Memphis, Tennessee. The other 15,000 acres may exist, just in some state or county we haven't looked at yet. Our ancestors moved around -- a lot. My grandmother may not have moved to live outside a 10-mile radius in her lifetime, but her ancestors were a different story. My point all along has been we need to keep an open mind when we do historical research or simply climb our family tree looking for interesting nuts. Our forefathers and mothers were people just like us. They possessed all the human frailties, wants and desires as we do. What they did 150 years ago doesn't reflect on us so much as simply add to the foundation of who we are. How we build on that foundation is our own responsibility. Sincerely, Jon Musgrave www.IllinoisHistory.com

Linda, The Crenshaw name has been greatly and unnecessarily damaged in order to sell the Crenshaw house to the state. Most of us agree the house should be sold and one day re-opened to the public. We are not pleased with the manner in which this was done. In order to get the attention of the State of Illinois there were exaggerated and un-proven stories told. I believe in preserving history but I also believe the history should be based on truh and fact. What good does one get from a history without these? It isn't what we would teach our children, is it? I'm not sure I understand your last sentence. Who do you believe is being criticized? Considering it is our Crenshaw family that has been unbearably criticized, I think I was being fair. Regards, Patty Patty, I enjoyed your comment on your ancestors. As I have said before, ancestry and genealogy go together. I have also enjoyed Jon's articles on The Old Slave House. I am sure there are things in everyone's past history and ancestry that we all wish hadn't happened, but it is part of our past, and that goes with genealogy. If you do not want to know about your past, then you should not be doing genealogy. I am not ashamed of any of my ancestors and what they may have done. Never criticize someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes. I surely hope all of you will stop and think about what this phrase means. Thank you, Linda _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

If anyone has access to the 1880 Gallatin Co, census would you please look up a couple of names for me? 1) Matilda (McCoy) Logsdon, she would be about 37/38 & a widow. 2) Bradford & Emily Deaton, he was probably in his 40's/50's she in her 30's. Now my questions. Are there birth records available for the years 1836-40? Also, I have tried clicking on an orderform in the books section, but cannot be found. I am interested in the Census book of 1880, 1900. Thanks Terry

I just wish my Bakers had been in the news so much. For someone who was in Gallatin soooooooooo early, it is AMAZING that there is virtually NOTHING out there about him...... sob... EDMUND BAKER WHERE ARE YOU !!!!!!!! Appointed a road supervisor (whoopee) in 1814.... steve sspunk@aol.com ps would everyone learn to cut&paste instead of just copying EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!! ack

That was a great message you posted Patty. We don't hear about the good things are ancestors did for their family, friends and county. It's as though no one wants to hear the good things about the Crenshaw family. Would the people who have family trees with no skeletons in the closets and ancestors who never made mistakes please let us know who you are. We're so used to being the black sheep of Gallatin county we would like to meet some angels. Jason _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Susan, Who is threatening whom? Have you even read your own emails? If I keep it up you'll do what... Are you sure your parents gave you permission to go on this list? This is the last time I'll even address you, you're not worth my time.

Larry Couldn't have said it better! Two or three years ago we could not pick up a newspaper, turn on the tv or get on this list without hearing all about this subject from those publishing articles and having interviews. Why the need for quieting and silencing this discussion now? Jim _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Keep it up lady and you will find yourself the only one left on this list! Too bad a lot of people are leaving..wonder why??? Oh..this IS a geneology list according to Rootsweb and according to Mr.Musgrave. I have made 3 attempts to Unsubscribe and I got a message that says " I am not on the List" so they can't Unsubscribe me..LOL I am blocking you from sending me anymore of your ridiculous remarks...bye bye... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Park" <rosie63@earthlink.net> To: "Susan Newell" <cherosis@semo.net> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:27 AM Subject: RE: Old Slave House Update > Personally attacked Susan? Oh please, did you read the email you wrote. Or > was saying that I'm talking out both sides of my mouth just a nice gesture > on your part. Get a grip. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Newell [mailto:cherosis@semo.net] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:46 AM > To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Old Slave House Update > > Mr. Musgrave, > I mentioned in a comment "why don't they just burn the place down" instead > of state taxpayers footing the bill and use this money for something more > useful. > Now my comment has been turned around into a" threat" from another list > member! I Have been personally attacked for voicing my opinion and this is > not allowed on any other mailing list that I belong to. > I guess I should have said.."tear it down or close it up" etc. ( I can > assure you, I have no intention of coming to Ill. with a gas can to torch > this old "historical" place!) > It was also said that "I wasn't much of a geneologist if I wanted a 150 > yr.old site destroyed." > As terrible as I can only imagine this place to have been (and I have seen > pictures of the inside) why would we want to be constantly reminded of such > atrocities! > I joined this site because I thought it was for research and Geneology and > not to be engaged in a verbal War over a subject to which I voiced my > opinion. > Since it seems I do not have the right to do this , please remove my name > from this list. This is my 2nd request. Please UNSUBSCRIBE me or tell me > how to do this. > May I say though, I have enjoyed your articles on Illinois history very > much. > Thank you > Sue > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Musgrave" <jonm@midamer.net> > To: <ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:28 PM > Subject: Old Slave House Update > > > > Hello, > > > > The status of the Old Slave House is that the Illinois Historic > Preservation Agency purchased the house for the State of Illinois about 15 > months ago. The state didn't buy the antiques inside of the house. The Sisks > wanted to stay in the house for six months in order to take care of the > antiques (and hopefully get the state to purchase them). IHPA had no problem > with that because they knew they needed to have a round the clock presence > at the house anyway. Plus, six months ended in June which was the end of the > fiscal year. > > > > At the time of the site's acquisition, IHPA was going to ask for funding > to staff and operate the house. They did, but the Bureau of the Budget > didn't add the money to the budget. Neither did the General Assembly when > they passed the budget at the end of the spring 2001 session. All of a > sudden, IHPA had a site, but no funding to operate or staff it, so they > wrote up a new agreement with the Sisks. They could continue to live there > rent-free, but they had to maintain the grounds and keep up the house much > as they were doing before. Also, the state could come in and move them out > whenever they needed. > > > > It's budget time again in Illinois, and with the budget woes the state's > going through, no one know what will happen, but no one is expecting much. > IHPA has another site with a new $2.5 million interpretive center at the > state's Lewis and Clark site and they have no money to staff it as well, so > it's not just the Old Slave House. > > > > As to the comments about arson... that's why the state needs someone at > the site around the clock. Since the Sisks closed it to tourists, they've > had three people break in one afternoon, (two of them had just been released > from an Indiana mental institution). Also, the historic Green House stage > coach inn over towards New Haven was burnt by a bunch of teens. That > 1830s/40s era structure went up in flames the weekend after it had been > nominated for the National Register of Historic Places. > > > > The state is doing something with the Old Slave House. They hired a > researcher from the Illinois Historical Survey to review the research > myself, Ron Nelson and Gary DeNeal had already done. In a surprise move, > IHPA even hired the three of us to act as consultants to the researcher > which saved him lots of time. He was actually supposed to have the final > report completed last fall, but there's so much info out there, he's still > working on it. > > > > Every week it seems that something new pops up in our research. (It's > still ongoing). Amazingly, although the Internet has a lot of worthless info > on it, the World Wide Web has proven a boon to this research as universities > upload online rare books, and genealogy lists and forums allow quick access > to genealogists who often hold that missing piece of the puzzle. A few weeks > ago Maureen Michelene who commented earlier today, informed me that Charles > McKernan was John Forrester's son-in-law. By chance when we first started > this research I saw a notice in an old Shawneetown newspaper that mentioned > a ball being held by McKernan. I mentioned it in the first main research > article I ever wrote on the house. At the time, I didn't know that Charles > was the son-in-law of one of Crenshaw's co-defendants in a kidnapping case. > I mentioned it solely for the wording and style of the party notice since it > would probably be similar to the parties the Crenshaws held on the second > floor at Hi! > > ckory Hill in the ballroom. > > > > In the past month we've uncovered the story of Andrew Jackson, a runaway > slave who was probably sitting in the jailhouse at Equality in September > 1840 at the same time Abraham Lincoln was in town campaigning for William > Henry Harrison for president. We've also made some terrific strides into the > story of John Duff the counterfeiter, an earlier outlaw in the area, whose > possible partner's son is remembered by his family as a slave catcher who > worked for Crenshaw. Duff's a perfect example of why more research is needed > into the area. For the most part he's remembered almost solely in legends > and lore. Most historians have not even been able to determine if Duff the > counterfeiter associated with Cave-in-Rock and the salines is even the same > John Duff who shows up in Illinois with George Rogers Clark. It turns out > the two are probably the same afterall. Not only have researchers discovered > a number of references to the historical John Duff in the Kaskaskia area, > but also in west! > > ern Kentucky where legend remembers he settled. Even his son-in-law is > found nearby adding to the likelihood that we're on to the right person. > > > > There are a number of stories concerning the Old Slave House. After five > years of research I can tell you that most of them are mostly true, and all > of them have some basis in history. Even the ghost stories apparently date > back to the 1850s. > > > > Like an earlier writer noted, this list is supposed to be for genealogy, > but as list owner I've allowed discussions on just about anything referring > to Gallatin County history and folklore. However, to move this back on a > genealogical track, how about if one of the Crenshaw descendents on this > list tell the status of the Robert Crenshaw family Bible which supposedly > tells of William Crenshaw's trek to New Madrid, or whether the diary > supposedly written by Bob Wilson's daughter is real and where its > whereabouts might be. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jon Musgrave > > www.IllinoisHistory.com > > > > P.S. To the person who tried to visit Hickory Hill Cemetery... you > shouldn't have had any problems. I haven't been there for nearly a year, but > the road leading back to it is still a township road. The entrance to it > does look like a driveway and has a white picket fence on both sides of road > where it turns south from Old Rt. 13. > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi everyone, I just read all my mail and I see there is quite a lot of controversy about the slave house I believe that it has a lot to do with genealogy and this site. There is a wonderful Poet by the name of Ella Wheeler Wilcox, which wrote this below: "To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men" Written by Ella Wheeler Wilcox Oh, by the way my whole family is from Gallatin Co. Larry Loran Elliott

When John Carter Stark wrote his will on 5 April 1814 in Sumner Co., TN, one bequest was as follows: "To my son John Stark I give a negro boy named Charles and a negro girl named Jane provided he does not carry the said negroes to the Illinois country where I understand they are prohibited to be carried, if he removes to that country as is supposed. In order to retain them in the family I desire these 2 negroes to be sold to my other sons and the money arising therefrom to be given to him." For whatever reason, John Carter Stark, Jr. chose not to leave Sumner County where he died in 1862, but members of my BLOODWORTH, BRUCE, and DUGGER families did move on from Sumner Co. TN to Gallatin Co., IL. I submit this merely to show how Illinois figured in the thinking of those considering moving on from Tennessee after their migration from Virginia. Joyce

I am very surprised at the protest from list members concerning the discussion of the Crenshaw family house on this list! We are told there is enough history related to this house to make it worthy of being added to the Illinois State Registry of Historical Houses. How do you separate Genealogy and History? The researchers who have been publishing articles about our family were not making a separation of the two. Yes, I am a Crenshaw descendant and very proud to be one. My ancestors were residents of Gallatin County and lived as many others did in that period of our history. Yes, they owned slaves. Yes, they made mistakes. They were not perfect. They worked hard and earned money from the salt business, farming and other ventures. John Hart Crenshaw built a home and named it Hickory Hill. This house was continually filled with family and friends living or visiting there. No one was turned away when they needed a place to live after losing a parent or loved husband. Relatives came for long visits for and often stayed for months at a time. My Crenshaw ancestors contributed to their community in spite of what you may have heard. They lived as other people did in that era. They were not a lazy people. They came to Gallatin County after losing everything they owned and from hard physical labor, sweat and tears they made their lives better. Patty Crenshaw Clayton _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

List, Cody asked me to forward this email he received last night and his reply, since he is no longer on the list. I really don't blame him for wanting to get off the list, but I do love the fighting for the cause. It must be General Lawler's DNA I carry. Right Bill? Semper Fi -----Original Message----- From: Cody Sanders [mailto:codyboy_sanders@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:57 AM To: rosie63@earthlink.net Subject: Request Rose, I unsubscribed from the list last night and several people sent messages to my address like the one below. Will you forward this to the list along with this little message from me? Cody Folks, you go right on believing what Musgrave writes - he gets paid for it and you have not got gored yet! This person wants the Crenshaw who has a bible to give it up like some did in the past. Then he can beat the name in the ground with it like he did in the past. To those who asked me to get off the list - I took your advice. Ya'al go right back to your genealogy and believing everthing he writes. Cody >From: "William G. Johnson" <padrewc@attbi.com> >To: "Cody Sanders" <codyboy_sanders@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! >Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:21:49 -0600 > >Cody: > >Who in the world pulled your chain? How would you feel if someone took you >on because of an interest you have? It all depends on whose ox is gored, >doesn't it? > >Let it alone, all you are going to get is heart burn for all your anger. > >Would much rather hear from a cool, calm Cody, than this uptight person. > >Peace, > > >Bill >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cody Sanders" <codyboy_sanders@hotmail.com> >To: <ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:27 PM >Subject: Unidentified subject! > > > > > > When you say the IHS Agency purchased the house for the State of >Illinois - > > are you saying no tax dollars were used in this purchase? > > > > The antiques in the house- are those the ones we read about in the > > newspapers that Sisk threatened to burn if the State of Illinois didn't > > purchase them for another half million bucks? Or maybe he said he was >going > > to burn them in a bon fire? > > > > When IHPA was going to ask for funding to staff and operate the house - >was > > this cost coming from Illinois tax dollars? > > > > Surprise, Surprise! The State of Illinois has money to hire the three > > rascals to help the researcher they hired (already) to re-research the > > research. Like I said the gift that keeps on giving! Why do they need a > > professional researcher when they have 'we' doing it? > > > > Whoever the Crenshaw descendant is with the Robert Crenshaw family Bible >I > > would suggest you bury it in corn field. > > > > Good play - bad timing. > > > > Cody _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com