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    1. Fwd: LIST ALL
    2. Cody Sanders
    3. Margaret L.Bambie, According to the rules posted last night the only subjects that will be discussed on this list are to apply to Gallatin County, Illinois. I don't know how there could have been 150 messages about the discussion of the slave house (to delete) when there haven't been that many messages posted for the month of March. Why is it not ok to discuss the history of a house (of great historical interest) -situated in Gallatin County- on this list, but it be ok for you to use foul language in disguise? Alan Moore posted a message today that sounds fair and reasonable. If I can ring in here as a historian, we can have arguments (read discussion) over facts and principles if we all remember the concept of academic freedom. We simply need to agree to disagree, and after the point is made cease and desist. The information on the Crenshaw house is avaluable piece of local history, accomapnied by folklore and rumor. The job of the historian is to weed out the difference between rumor, folklore and fact, and get to what happened while ALWAYS remembering that different times held different moral values. Alan Moore Why is this? Cody >From: GEN1942@aol.com >To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: LIST ALL >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:50:05 EST > >I have sat and read, and yes deleted in fact there were about 150 just in >debate of the Slave house. >My Family Lines come from Gallatin C. and Saline c. Green C and others in >Illinois, also Have LINCOLN'S [yes dear Old Abe] I was raised in >Springfield >ILL and left when jobs were had to find in the 60's. >Slavery was a part of most all our family histories [LIVE WITH IT] but lets >stop slapping it in the face of people to day who had no control over our >past families and what they did or did not do. > As we do not have any control over the State what good does it do to >B.... >about it to the list go to Springfield and do it there. >I will give this list a few days and see what happens if >ANY ONE HAS A B....; WITH WHAT IM SAYING PLEASE EMAIL ME DIRECT AS THAT'S >WHERE THE COMMENTS SHOULD FALL AND I WILL DISCUSS IT WITH IT YOU > > >Margaret L. Bambie Goodall, Family Historian & Genealogy >515 Lincoln Ave,##113,Bellevue, Pittsburgh, PA., 15202-3507 >Family names:{A}. {B]Baker.[ILL.} Ballard. Bender{ILL,Canada}.Bingley. >[DAR]{ILL,Canada,Eng} Black.{NY.} Burkhart. Batty. Bancroft. >{C}.Cornelius.Combs.Cain. Caton. Cochran- Cummins- Chickering- Creekmoore. >Connally. {D}.Dowllar/Dollar.{ILL,?, SCOTLAND} Dain/Dains. Duvaw. {E}. {F}. >Fox. {G}. Goodall.{ILL. ENGLAND, SCOTLAND. IND.VA.OH.TENN}- Goodman. >Gourley. >Goode. {H}. Hamilton- Handcock- Hanks/Hancks- {I}. {J}. {K}. Keith- >Kubisiak- {L}-Lawson. Lankston. Lakin- Lewis- Likens. {M}Moore [ILL]- >Morris-{N} Newkirk. {O}Orr [ILL]- Owens- {P} Porch.[DAR] >{KY.England,PA,TN} >Palmer.{ILL,England}- Phelps/Felps- Powell; -{Q}. {R}.Randolph. Reynolds. >Ridgeway [ILL]. Rice [ILL]. Roberts. {S}. Sutton {ILL,Tenn,NC,SC}- >Sweetland-[DAR] Seagren- Smith- Stark- {T}.Torrance.[DAR] >{Scotland,Ireland >} Thompson- Thomas- {U}. {V}.Vancil [ILL] {W} Williams.- White. {X}. {Y}. >{Z}. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

    03/27/2002 08:36:23
    1. Re: Gallatin Co. List Rules
    2. thank you John an Im glad your back from Holiday MBGoodall

    03/27/2002 05:53:15
    1. LIST ALL
    2. I have sat and read, and yes deleted in fact there were about 150 just in debate of the Slave house. My Family Lines come from Gallatin C. and Saline c. Green C and others in Illinois, also Have LINCOLN'S [yes dear Old Abe] I was raised in Springfield ILL and left when jobs were had to find in the 60's. Slavery was a part of most all our family histories [LIVE WITH IT] but lets stop slapping it in the face of people to day who had no control over our past families and what they did or did not do. As we do not have any control over the State what good does it do to B.... about it to the list go to Springfield and do it there. I will give this list a few days and see what happens if ANY ONE HAS A B....; WITH WHAT IM SAYING PLEASE EMAIL ME DIRECT AS THAT'S WHERE THE COMMENTS SHOULD FALL AND I WILL DISCUSS IT WITH IT YOU Margaret L. Bambie Goodall, Family Historian & Genealogy 515 Lincoln Ave,##113,Bellevue, Pittsburgh, PA., 15202-3507 Family names:{A}. {B]Baker.[ILL.} Ballard. Bender{ILL,Canada}.Bingley. [DAR]{ILL,Canada,Eng} Black.{NY.} Burkhart. Batty. Bancroft. {C}.Cornelius.Combs.Cain. Caton. Cochran- Cummins- Chickering- Creekmoore. Connally. {D}.Dowllar/Dollar.{ILL,?, SCOTLAND} Dain/Dains. Duvaw. {E}. {F}. Fox. {G}. Goodall.{ILL. ENGLAND, SCOTLAND. IND.VA.OH.TENN}- Goodman. Gourley. Goode. {H}. Hamilton- Handcock- Hanks/Hancks- {I}. {J}. {K}. Keith- Kubisiak- {L}-Lawson. Lankston. Lakin- Lewis- Likens. {M}Moore [ILL]- Morris-{N} Newkirk. {O}Orr [ILL]- Owens- {P} Porch.[DAR] {KY.England,PA,TN} Palmer.{ILL,England}- Phelps/Felps- Powell; -{Q}. {R}.Randolph. Reynolds. Ridgeway [ILL]. Rice [ILL]. Roberts. {S}. Sutton {ILL,Tenn,NC,SC}- Sweetland-[DAR] Seagren- Smith- Stark- {T}.Torrance.[DAR] {Scotland,Ireland } Thompson- Thomas- {U}. {V}.Vancil [ILL] {W} Williams.- White. {X}. {Y}. {Z}.

    03/27/2002 05:50:05
    1. Re: Gallatin Co. List Rules
    2. Alan Moore
    3. If I can ring in here as a historian, we can have arguments (read discussion) over facts and principles if we all remember the concept of academic freedom. We simply need to agree to disagree, and after the point is made cease and desist. The information on the Crenshaw house is a valuable piece of local history, accomapnied by folklore and rumor. The job of the historian is to weed out the difference between rumor, folklore and fact, and get to what happened while ALWAYS remembering that different times held different moral values. Alan Moore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Musgrave" <jonm@midamer.net> To: <ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Gallatin Co. List Rules > Hello, > > I'm writing as the list owner. I've been out of town and hoped the list would quiet down. I don't like blocking people from the list, not do I like closing the list to non-subscribers. However, if things continue I may have to take those steps. > > If you want to unsubscribe, send a message to either ilgallat-l-request@rootsweb.com or ilgallat-d-request@rootsweb.com. If you originally signed up where you get each message separately you signed up for the list version and you should send a message to the first address. If you receive the digest version, then sent a message to the second list. To unsubscribe simply send a message to one of the addresses with the word UNSUBSCRIBE as part of the message. When you do, please turn off any signatures what are normally automatically added. Likewise if you want to subscribe send a message to the appropriate address ("l" for list, "d" for digest) with the word SUBSCRIBE. > > If you have something to add (i.e. new information, etc.) to the subject of Gallatin County genealogy, history, folklore, etc., please continue to do so. But please keep comments on topic. > > Flaming is an old (if we can use that term when it comes to the Internet) name which describes some of the types of attacks that have been made by people on this list against both people on this list and individuals off the list. Flaming is not allowed. Show courtesy and respect to all on the list, even if they don't deserve it. Your comments are recorded for posterity. Years from now your grandchildren may be searching the Rootsweb archives for a school research project. Keep that in mind. > > Sincerely, > > Jon Musgrave > Gallatin County List Owner > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    03/27/2002 03:53:42
    1. Green/Greer
    2. In the 1840 Gallatin Co. Census my gg grandfather Christopher C. Green is listed as a Greer. Are any of you researching the Berry Greer that is listed ...or is this another Green? Thanks for any help, Joann Green Coleman

    03/27/2002 03:10:38
    1. Bell names
    2. Lacy Keller
    3. There is a Thomas Bell listed in the 1840 Gallatin Co census and in the household there are three males, one 0-5 yrs., one 16-20, one 30-40 and one female 15-20 yrs. According to Gallatin Co land records James Bell, Thomas Bell and Robert Crenshaw lived close to each other. Does anyone have information about these Bell names? I found a Thomas Bell that married Deliliah Dalton in Pope County IL. This Thomas Bell was born in Kentucky in 1817. Lacy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

    03/26/2002 11:20:43
    1. History
    2. Cody Sanders
    3. I have the same e-mail address that I've had for at least three years and Jon can tell you that for a fact. He has written to me asking me for Crenshaw information. Why not let us share it with everyone? We have tried to discuss a subject that is important to us and seems to be of interest to others on this list. Maybe it would help if you would be more specific. Cody _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

    03/26/2002 03:55:27
    1. Question for list owner
    2. Rose Park
    3. Jon, Do the newly stated rules of the list limit the discussion regarding the Crenshaw house? Much of the conversation discusses current issues regarding the house. Although these are current issues, it is the history of the Gallatin County house that is in question. Where exactly are you drawing the line on that subject? Consequently, if all Crenshaw discussion is blocked from the list, the list will merely consist of the usual lookup requests. Rose Park

    03/26/2002 03:31:42
    1. New Rules
    2. Cody Sanders
    3. Can you be a little more specific about the new rules? You stated the messages should be related to the subject of Gallatin County, genealogy, history, folklore,etc. Did I miss a message today? I don't recall anyone flaming another person. If I have something personal to say to someone I will send it to their personal address. Do you monitor the personal messages? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

    03/26/2002 03:29:28
    1. Gallatin Co. List Rules
    2. Jon Musgrave
    3. Hello, I'm writing as the list owner. I've been out of town and hoped the list would quiet down. I don't like blocking people from the list, not do I like closing the list to non-subscribers. However, if things continue I may have to take those steps. If you want to unsubscribe, send a message to either ilgallat-l-request@rootsweb.com or ilgallat-d-request@rootsweb.com. If you originally signed up where you get each message separately you signed up for the list version and you should send a message to the first address. If you receive the digest version, then sent a message to the second list. To unsubscribe simply send a message to one of the addresses with the word UNSUBSCRIBE as part of the message. When you do, please turn off any signatures what are normally automatically added. Likewise if you want to subscribe send a message to the appropriate address ("l" for list, "d" for digest) with the word SUBSCRIBE. If you have something to add (i.e. new information, etc.) to the subject of Gallatin County genealogy, history, folklore, etc., please continue to do so. But please keep comments on topic. Flaming is an old (if we can use that term when it comes to the Internet) name which describes some of the types of attacks that have been made by people on this list against both people on this list and individuals off the list. Flaming is not allowed. Show courtesy and respect to all on the list, even if they don't deserve it. Your comments are recorded for posterity. Years from now your grandchildren may be searching the Rootsweb archives for a school research project. Keep that in mind. Sincerely, Jon Musgrave Gallatin County List Owner

    03/26/2002 01:33:58
    1. Re: Greer
    2. E Annette Rose
    3. Ok...let's all relax. I need you to stop doing all YOUR research and just concentrate on finding MY relatives! (Am laughing as I say that, I don't want any bricks thrown at me.) I need "proof" on Abraham Greer, son of Asa Greer and Rebecca Neighbors. This man married in Tenn., 1825 or so, had a son, William M. Greer i826/1827...and then, my mother's greatgrandfather, Francis Marion Greer was born in Gallatin county, Ills.,in 1830. By 1834 "the family" had moved back to Tenn. and by 1848, on into Morehouse Parish, LA. The term "family" came from memories of the youngest son of Frances Marion Greer, James A. Greer, but he didn't give us a clear indication of his grandfather's full name. James A. Greer only stated that his brother, Thomas Abraham Greer was named for his "paternal grandfather." Abraham Greer "appears to be the man", but, as I said, I need the proof that we have the correct fellow. If we do, I have the rest of the family ready to "fly." If this proves out, then my mother will end up being my father's sixth cousin. I have other ties to Greer, and they all lead back to Aquilla Greer (1716). Some of "us" think Abraham may have died in Ills. and that his wife, Margaret (Peggy) moved "home" to her family {Kinney}. Would any of you have resourses to find some record of Abraham Greer? God Bless each of you. Remember to tell your friends and family how important they are to you. E.Annette Rose earphoto@gonetgo.com earphoto@yahoo.com http://freepages.events.rootsweb.com/~earphoto/mystory.html

    03/26/2002 01:30:45
    1. Lost photos
    2. Phyllis Campbell
    3. There is a photo on this site of a BOSTON family. The picture was taken in Dahlgren. The names of the people in the photo are DAVID, ELLEN, NONA, PERLEY, CLARA AND BURLEY BOSTON. Phyllis this is a great site for photos found in flea markets and auctions http://www.lostleavesphotos.com/

    03/26/2002 11:29:22
    1. Please Read
    2. Cody Sanders
    3. Listers I ask you to take a minute and read at least a part of what I write. This morning I read a message posted on this list that began "Hello people! This is getting irrational." The author further states she has an ancestor, who also had a salt lease, is listed in one census as being the largest slave holder in Gallatin Co is a part of history and he sits prominently at the top of her tree with all the other scallawags and scoundrels. As we have stated before, there were many slave owners in Gallatin County in the 19th century. Why is the Crenshaw family THE target?? Why not other slave holders? Could the real interest be the Crenshaw house? Why?? How did one family become the focus of so much attention?? Who started the finger pointing?? Why?? A discussion is one or more people exchanging opinions, ideas, etc. It should be done in a rational way. Why do you people want to stop those who are interested in discussing this. Is it because you are not interested in the subject? Do like the others who don't share the same interest you have. I'm not a trouble maker. I have feelings, opinions and concerns. It is not my intention to take away from your list. Can we not share it and get to know what each other feels without hostility? Cody _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

    03/26/2002 07:22:27
    1. RE: ILGALLAT-D Digest V02 #23
    2. Micheline, Maureen
    3. Here, here for Jon Musgrave. Through him I found my gr-gr-gr-grandfather. -----Original Message----- From: Doris Bayne [mailto:caveoutlaw@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:19 PM To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: ILGALLAT-D Digest V02 #23 Thanks for the A. J. Sisk obit. My ggrandfather was Hezikiah Sisk. Does anyone out there have any info on him or my grandfather Allie Sisk. Thanks to John Musgrave for his interest in history and genealogy. As to the Old Slave House, I have an interest in seeing it open. I would like to take my grandchildren there as I did my children. A former Hardin County resident and a former Sisk. ----- Original Message ----- From: ILGALLAT-D-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:10 AM To: ILGALLAT-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ILGALLAT-D Digest V02 #23 Content-Type: text/plain ILGALLAT-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 23 Today's Topics: #1 Haleys in Gallatin Co. IL ["David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com] #2 Re: Haleys in Gallatin Co. IL ["Phyllis Campbell" <belann@ezla.ne] #3 RE: Naming Names? ["Micheline, Maureen" <MichelineM@M] #4 Andrew Jackson Sisk obit ["Ellen & Bob Rigsby" <errigsby2@ap] #5 RE: Naming Names? ["Lundblad, Jeff" <LundbladJ@oceusa] #6 ENOUGH [mary849@webtv.net (Mary Scott)] #7 PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! [chodge <chodge@strato.net>] #8 Re: ILGALLAT-D Digest V02 #22 [Michael Chambers <michaelc@brick.n] #9 RE: Naming Names? ["Micheline, Maureen" <MichelineM@M] #10 moving along ["Carol E. Valantine Dugger" <cvdug] #11 Moving Along ["Laurie Thompson" <laurieathompson] #12 RE: Moving Along ["Micheline, Maureen" <MichelineM@M] #13 Thompsons ["Kes Truelove" <ketruelove@attbi.c] #14 Andrew Jackson Sisk Obit [Harplin@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ILGALLAT-D, send a message to ILGALLAT-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    03/26/2002 07:22:14
    1. Re: ILGALLAT-D Digest V02 #23
    2. Doris Bayne
    3. Thanks for the A. J. Sisk obit. My ggrandfather was Hezikiah Sisk. Does anyone out there have any info on him or my grandfather Allie Sisk. Thanks to John Musgrave for his interest in history and genealogy. As to the Old Slave House, I have an interest in seeing it open. I would like to take my grandchildren there as I did my children. A former Hardin County resident and a former Sisk. ----- Original Message ----- From: ILGALLAT-D-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:10 AM To: ILGALLAT-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ILGALLAT-D Digest V02 #23 Content-Type: text/plain ILGALLAT-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 23 Today's Topics: #1 Haleys in Gallatin Co. IL ["David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com] #2 Re: Haleys in Gallatin Co. IL ["Phyllis Campbell" <belann@ezla.ne] #3 RE: Naming Names? ["Micheline, Maureen" <MichelineM@M] #4 Andrew Jackson Sisk obit ["Ellen & Bob Rigsby" <errigsby2@ap] #5 RE: Naming Names? ["Lundblad, Jeff" <LundbladJ@oceusa] #6 ENOUGH [mary849@webtv.net (Mary Scott)] #7 PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! [chodge <chodge@strato.net>] #8 Re: ILGALLAT-D Digest V02 #22 [Michael Chambers <michaelc@brick.n] #9 RE: Naming Names? ["Micheline, Maureen" <MichelineM@M] #10 moving along ["Carol E. Valantine Dugger" <cvdug] #11 Moving Along ["Laurie Thompson" <laurieathompson] #12 RE: Moving Along ["Micheline, Maureen" <MichelineM@M] #13 Thompsons ["Kes Truelove" <ketruelove@attbi.c] #14 Andrew Jackson Sisk Obit [Harplin@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ILGALLAT-D, send a message to ILGALLAT-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________

    03/26/2002 07:19:27
    1. Who is this list manager?????
    2. When discussions of this sort get started on other lists, the managers put a stop to it right away!!!!! Please, if you want to continue the "debate," do so by sending private messages. Let's all get back to the business of genealogy for which this list was created. Enough is enough!!!

    03/26/2002 06:48:11
    1. Re: Naming Names?
    2. Ginger, Well said. Best regards, Hugh

    03/26/2002 03:52:16
    1. RE: Naming Names?
    2. Micheline, Maureen
    3. Sorry you were unable to grasp the comparisons. Ever been to the Anne Frank House? It is much smaller that the Slave House, but it speaks volumes to intolerance. My point is you should not remove that which reminds us of wrongdoings. Since this appeared to be an open forum, as evidenced by your e-mail below, your response is irrational. -----Original Message----- From: GingerH [mailto:gingerh@shawneelink.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:09 AM To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Naming Names? Hello people! This is getting irrational. The purpose of this list is to discuss Gallatin County history and genealogy, not Ausschwitz. While the slave house might be a touchy issue for some it can still be discussed in a rational manner. I would like to assume that we are all adults on this list. Flames are uncalled for. If someone has a dissenting point of view they should present it in a rational manner, citing their sources. The fact that Timothy Guard, who also had a salt lease, is listed in one census as being the largest slave holder in Gallatin Co is a part of history. He sits prominently on my family tree, along with all the ordinary John Doe's, and the scalliwags and scoundrels. What those folks did or didn't do does not affect who I am today. Just as some food for thought. I'm always grateful for the scalliwags and scoundrels I dig up....they are the only one's who left a good paper trail. Ordinary John Doe just didn't leave much of a record. <grin> Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lundblad Jeff" <LundbladJ@oceusa.com> To: <ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:47 AM Subject: RE: Naming Names? > Your original e-mail compares the Old Slave House to Auschwitz not slavery > to Nazism. Both were horrible, but the old Slave House is a minor, minor, > minor part of the whole realm of US slavery. Auschwitz was a major part of > the Holocaust. > JL > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheline, Maureen [mailto:MichelineM@MTA.NET] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:36 PM > To: 'Lundblad, Jeff'; ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Naming Names? > > > No trivialization intended. What about the memory of the people who died in > slavery. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lundblad, Jeff [mailto:LundbladJ@oceusa.com] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:35 PM > To: 'Micheline, Maureen'; ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Naming Names? > > > I'm not in favor of burning the house down either, but comparing the old > slave house to Auschwitz seems like a stretch that trivializes the memory of > the people who died in the death camp. > > JL > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheline, Maureen [mailto:MichelineM@MTA.NET] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:56 PM > To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Naming Names? > > > Along with burning down this house, perhaps we should encourage Amsterdam to > do away with the Anne Frank house, as well. Oh yeah, let's not forget > Auschwitz. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Newell [mailto:cherosis@semo.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:02 PM > To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Naming Names? > > > Excuse me? I don't think this calls for personal attacks! > If I can't voice my opinion on this subject..what makes you think you have a > right to? > Yes Rose..since you had ancestors in this house..I guess you wouldn't want > it destroyed. > Maybe you should take care of this "wonderful" old Historic place. Surely > you don't surmise that a "Slave House" would have been anything other than > what the name of it implies! > You and Cody need to re-read your previous messages..sounds like you are > talking out of both sides of your mouth. Your former messages sounded to > me like you didn't like the subject either. > As for the Delete button..thanx for the advice..I have already used it on > your messages. > I will be Unsubscribing from this"whatever" list this is..I know you will > miss me. > Susan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    03/26/2002 03:09:55
    1. Re: Naming Names?
    2. GingerH
    3. Hello people! This is getting irrational. The purpose of this list is to discuss Gallatin County history and genealogy, not Ausschwitz. While the slave house might be a touchy issue for some it can still be discussed in a rational manner. I would like to assume that we are all adults on this list. Flames are uncalled for. If someone has a dissenting point of view they should present it in a rational manner, citing their sources. The fact that Timothy Guard, who also had a salt lease, is listed in one census as being the largest slave holder in Gallatin Co is a part of history. He sits prominently on my family tree, along with all the ordinary John Doe's, and the scalliwags and scoundrels. What those folks did or didn't do does not affect who I am today. Just as some food for thought. I'm always grateful for the scalliwags and scoundrels I dig up....they are the only one's who left a good paper trail. Ordinary John Doe just didn't leave much of a record. <grin> Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lundblad Jeff" <LundbladJ@oceusa.com> To: <ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:47 AM Subject: RE: Naming Names? > Your original e-mail compares the Old Slave House to Auschwitz not slavery > to Nazism. Both were horrible, but the old Slave House is a minor, minor, > minor part of the whole realm of US slavery. Auschwitz was a major part of > the Holocaust. > JL > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheline, Maureen [mailto:MichelineM@MTA.NET] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:36 PM > To: 'Lundblad, Jeff'; ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Naming Names? > > > No trivialization intended. What about the memory of the people who died in > slavery. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lundblad, Jeff [mailto:LundbladJ@oceusa.com] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:35 PM > To: 'Micheline, Maureen'; ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Naming Names? > > > I'm not in favor of burning the house down either, but comparing the old > slave house to Auschwitz seems like a stretch that trivializes the memory of > the people who died in the death camp. > > JL > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheline, Maureen [mailto:MichelineM@MTA.NET] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:56 PM > To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: Naming Names? > > > Along with burning down this house, perhaps we should encourage Amsterdam to > do away with the Anne Frank house, as well. Oh yeah, let's not forget > Auschwitz. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Newell [mailto:cherosis@semo.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:02 PM > To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Naming Names? > > > Excuse me? I don't think this calls for personal attacks! > If I can't voice my opinion on this subject..what makes you think you have a > right to? > Yes Rose..since you had ancestors in this house..I guess you wouldn't want > it destroyed. > Maybe you should take care of this "wonderful" old Historic place. Surely > you don't surmise that a "Slave House" would have been anything other than > what the name of it implies! > You and Cody need to re-read your previous messages..sounds like you are > talking out of both sides of your mouth. Your former messages sounded to > me like you didn't like the subject either. > As for the Delete button..thanx for the advice..I have already used it on > your messages. > I will be Unsubscribing from this"whatever" list this is..I know you will > miss me. > Susan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    03/26/2002 02:09:17
    1. RE: Naming Names?
    2. Lundblad, Jeff
    3. Your original e-mail compares the Old Slave House to Auschwitz not slavery to Nazism. Both were horrible, but the old Slave House is a minor, minor, minor part of the whole realm of US slavery. Auschwitz was a major part of the Holocaust. JL -----Original Message----- From: Micheline, Maureen [mailto:MichelineM@MTA.NET] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 5:36 PM To: 'Lundblad, Jeff'; ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Naming Names? No trivialization intended. What about the memory of the people who died in slavery. -----Original Message----- From: Lundblad, Jeff [mailto:LundbladJ@oceusa.com] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:35 PM To: 'Micheline, Maureen'; ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Naming Names? I'm not in favor of burning the house down either, but comparing the old slave house to Auschwitz seems like a stretch that trivializes the memory of the people who died in the death camp. JL -----Original Message----- From: Micheline, Maureen [mailto:MichelineM@MTA.NET] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:56 PM To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Naming Names? Along with burning down this house, perhaps we should encourage Amsterdam to do away with the Anne Frank house, as well. Oh yeah, let's not forget Auschwitz. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Newell [mailto:cherosis@semo.net] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:02 PM To: ILGALLAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Naming Names? Excuse me? I don't think this calls for personal attacks! If I can't voice my opinion on this subject..what makes you think you have a right to? Yes Rose..since you had ancestors in this house..I guess you wouldn't want it destroyed. Maybe you should take care of this "wonderful" old Historic place. Surely you don't surmise that a "Slave House" would have been anything other than what the name of it implies! You and Cody need to re-read your previous messages..sounds like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Your former messages sounded to me like you didn't like the subject either. As for the Delete button..thanx for the advice..I have already used it on your messages. I will be Unsubscribing from this"whatever" list this is..I know you will miss me. Susan ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    03/26/2002 01:47:55