Gibbs from book #2 JONES CEMETERY IN SECT. 11 OF MOUNTAIN TWP. of SALINE COUNTY Gibbs, Flossie Inez mother 1918-64 Gibbs, Isaac b 11-29-1839 Sgt. 34th? Inf. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 7:19 AM Subject: [ILGALLAT] lookups in cemetery book > Dave, > I guess since you are looking, I might as well ask also...<G>. Is there any > MILLIGAN'S, PARTAIN'S or GIBBS' in the book???? > Thanks > Denise Gibbs Kneifel > [email protected] > Http://members.aol.com/DeniseK322/index.html > GIBBS KNEIFEL LANGEL/LENGYEL WILLIAMS PARTAIN MILLIGAN WOMACK WHITE PULLINS > WANDRY ZINN...and many more > >

No Partain in either book Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 7:19 AM Subject: [ILGALLAT] lookups in cemetery book > Dave, > I guess since you are looking, I might as well ask also...<G>. Is there any > MILLIGAN'S, PARTAIN'S or GIBBS' in the book???? > Thanks > Denise Gibbs Kneifel > [email protected] > Http://members.aol.com/DeniseK322/index.html > GIBBS KNEIFEL LANGEL/LENGYEL WILLIAMS PARTAIN MILLIGAN WOMACK WHITE PULLINS > WANDRY ZINN...and many more > >

Do you also want Millikan? With a K Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 7:19 AM Subject: [ILGALLAT] lookups in cemetery book > Dave, > I guess since you are looking, I might as well ask also...<G>. Is there any > MILLIGAN'S, PARTAIN'S or GIBBS' in the book???? > Thanks > Denise Gibbs Kneifel > [email protected] > Http://members.aol.com/DeniseK322/index.html > GIBBS KNEIFEL LANGEL/LENGYEL WILLIAMS PARTAIN MILLIGAN WOMACK WHITE PULLINS > WANDRY ZINN...and many more > >

No Gatlins in book 2 Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [ILGALLAT] the book > Dave, > > Do you have any Gatlin in the book? > > Thanks, > Joan > >

No Gatlins in Book#1 Lory Holm

> Trev, > Have you seen the 1840 Gallatin Co. census, 1850 Saline Co. census and the > Land grants? Yes I have.... Ben Sr. doesn't appear in the 1850 census... > It looks like your Benjamin had a bunch of kids. There is a John in 1850 > census, born in Kentucky. There was a very early Jones in a few miles south > of Benjamin. (1819) there were a "few" Jones families in the area... haven't no proof to connect the early ones. Mine from VA... most of the later ones from KY and TN.... Okay, hold up there... you said a very early Jones in 1819? Was this on the "Land Patent page"? It wasn't, was it.... you are talking about "Land Grants"....right? I don't have these!!! Can you give me the plat info for that one (1819), and name.... and anyone else who is closeby. > The 1850 census shows young Benjamin had no land but Elizabeth 53 years old > did. This is Ben Jr., The land Ben Sr. bought was in 1840, and either Ben Jr or Sr purchased more in 1844 (I believe it to be Jr.... per 1850 census). Elizabeth Carrier/Carner was Ben Sr's wife.... William and his wife Rebecca are my gg grandfather. They were also living in the area. William remarried when Rebecca (McFarland) died in 1892 to Mary Caroline Mace... had two kids (my g grfr) and died. > So.... the land purchased by Benjamin in 1839 and 1842 must have been the > elder before he died. I only Had land purchased in 1840 by Sr, and 1844 by Jr.....hmmmm what book are looking at Dave? > The location of 7S 5E which is in Tate Twp, is closer to McLeansboro than > Shaneetown. They could have > leaned toward Hamilton Co for business. I checked Greenberry Jones (easier Yeah, that was my feeling to... I did have Greenberry married in Hamilton. There is also some Jones just over the line.... Hamilton co is so short on published resources, that I haven't been able to get much done. I take it you have the marriage book (to 1870) that is no longer available..... errrrrr! Thanks for all your help.... Best Regards, Trev

I have deleted an inquiry about Julia Price. Hopefully the sender will see this. Julia Ann Bryant Green Price, daughter of William Bryant and Bathanna Pearce, Born November 25, 1845, White Co. IL. Married: William M. Green 1865, White Co. IL. William F. Price 1880 White Co. IL Joann Green Coleman

I am searching for any info on the Hedger, Cox, Dillard families in Gallatin Co.? If you could help me I would appreciate it. Thanks Julie Illinois

Denise--You ask about the Milligan name. Was someone named or nicknamed "Jersey" included in this group? He was always in attendance at some of our family reunions--we were wondering if he was related in some way. He is pictured in some of the "whole group" photos. The last names were Moore, Riegel, Keel and others at those reunions. These took place from probably the 1930's through the 1950's.

In a message dated 12/8/99 11:43:06 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Yeah... <g> but there weren't as many as he thought there might be.... :-) >> Touche' You are right tho, there weren't near as many as I thot might be there !! Where did all the rice's go before then ?

In a message dated 12/8/99 11:43:06 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Steve -- Cheap shot >> Payday isn't until friday !

Dave, I guess since you are looking, I might as well ask also...<G>. Is there any MILLIGAN'S, PARTAIN'S or GIBBS' in the book???? Thanks Denise Gibbs Kneifel [email protected] Http://members.aol.com/DeniseK322/index.html GIBBS KNEIFEL LANGEL/LENGYEL WILLIAMS PARTAIN MILLIGAN WOMACK WHITE PULLINS WANDRY ZINN...and many more

What I'm wondering is.... if Saline counties north boundary was 5 miles to the north in 1847 (when the county formed), wouldn't Gallatin's "whole" north boundary have been 5 miles to the north. At present day, Saline and Gallatin's north boundaries are even, right? Makes ya wonder if they dropped Saline 'and' Gallatins, at the same time! Trev

> Trev, > > I didn't know that about the boundry change. The set of maps on the > boundries doesn't reflect it. > They show a shift to the north from 1817 to 1818. Anyway, maybe you can tell > me where Mantua Twp was in White Co, in 1820? My brick wall for a long time > has been Reuben Walden. He lived on the White / Gallatin Co line, on the > White co side by todays line. He was most likely my ggg grandfather. Dave.... I don't know anything about White (and I should have), but I have forwarded your mail to Hamilton... there are a few people there that may be able to answer. Best Regards, Trev PS.... I didn't know that either, and I have had that book for a year :-)

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 09 December, 1999 12:53 AM Subject: [ILHAMILT-L] Rices from Perry Co., IL GIJoe, David Helvey and Nancy Helvey, You all have an interest in the Perry Co. Rices. So--you have the beginning of your Rice Research Group. As far as I know, those Rices are not of my line. However, I will offer here a very generalized (and skimpy) overview of some Rices of Southern Illinois, including Perry Co. My Edmund Rice family came from Massachusetts (settled there in 1638), and in the 5th American generation, Ebenezer Rice, went by way of a short stay in Vermont, to Maury Co., TN. When he died, his children went mostly to White Co., IL. They had a distant cousin, Sylvanus (Sylvania?) of Charlemont, Mass., (married to Margaret Shurtliff), who migrated (probably after a short stay in New Hampshire, not too far from Charlemont) to Virginia in 1816, and from there to Illinois in 1832. His children: (1) Cyrus, b. 1798, moved to Albion, Edwards Co., IL; (2) Esther married Ansel Phillips and moved to Edwards Co.; (3) Dorcas married John Gibson and moved to Olney, IL; (4)Mathew married Nancy Mills and moved to Albion; (5 & 6) Sylvanus, Jr., and Oliver moved to Albion. Mary Ann Rice, born 25 Dec 1816, dau of Sylvanus' brother, Luther Rice, became a teacher at Female Seminary, Hardinsburg, Breckinridge Co., KY. The Rices of Gallatin Co., are mostly from the same group as Ebenezer's descendants in White Co. Not my Rice line unless connected from Sylvanus (Sylvania?), way back there: In 1804, James H. Rice was on the tax list for Garrard Co., KY, beside Patrick H. Rice (presumed brother). P. H. Rice was bondsman for marriage of James H. to Ann Rice, 1806, Washington Co., KY. Ann was the dau of William & Frances (Granger) Rice of VA. P. H. Rice married Ann's sister, Polly. They went to Livingston Co., KY, where P. H. died in 1821. James H. & family, and Cary Allan Rice & family, moved to White Co., IL, where they lived side by side until James H. died in 1845. Their children share some middle names, including Watson. There is a connection between this Rice family and Matthew Rice of Prince Edward Co., VA. Could they be part of Sylvanus's group that went to VA? James Harvey Rice named his boys for ministers: Jonathan E. Rice, James McGready Rice, amd Benjamin Franklin (Spilman) Rice. I have more on this family, but since they are not the Perry Co., group, I will not copy more at this time. FRANKLIN CO. CONNECTION: Edward Young Rice (a judge), born Logan Co., KY, 8 Feb 1820, went to Montgomery Co., IL. He was the youngest child of Francis & Mary Rice's 7 sons & 4 daus. Francis Rice, a Methodist minister, born Caswell Co., NC, married Mary Gooch (died 1852 at 75 years of age) who was the dau of William and _____ Carr Gooch. Francis & Mary also had a son, Brooks Rice, who married Margaret Bailey. Their children: Rhoda Rice and twins, Frances Rice, b. 18 Nov 1871, Benton, IL, and William Franklin Rice (18 Nov 1871, Benton - 23 Jul 1945 Johnston City, IL) who married Emma Weston 17 Sep 1893, Benton. Children of William Franklin and Emma (Weston) Rice: Chester Paul Rice, Barney Tilbert Rice, Artie Tecumseh Rice, Beulah G. Rice, Emma Mae Rice, Harry Frank Rice, Verbal Marie Rice and Wilma L. Rice. David Edward Young Rice, born abt. 1812, was the son of David & Elizabeth Spelman Rice. The father died Livingston Co., 1814, and Elizabeth married James B. Willis, and they migrated to IL with her son, David, and her parents, Benjamin Spilman & wife Nancy (Rice) Spilman, dau of James Rice of Prince Edward Co., VA. David E. Y. Rice became a Presbyterial minister in Cape Girardeau, MO. My files contain no proof that Edward Young Rice, Montgomery Co., IL (of the above paragraph), was related to Spilmans and Rices, but Spilmans later moved to Montgomery Co., IL. Thomas Rice of Caswell Co., NC, died 1804, Davidson Co., TN. There was a very prominent Rice family in Davidson, adjacent to Maury Co., TN. PERRY CO., IL, RICES: One of the Rice families in the 1860 Perry Co. census came from Ireland. Other Rices in Perry Co.: In Tamaroa, households #183, Hiram Rice, 53, born TN, and #184, George W. Rice, 33, born TN, and #185, Alex. H. Rice, 25, born IL, are probably related, I would guess as father and two sons. Household #195, Gilbert Rice, 30, born IL, might be, or might not be, another son. There is in Pinckneyville, household #225 an Abner Rice, 50, born KY, who also might or might not be related to the Tamaroa Rices. I won't list any of the marriages because they can be found on the State of Illinois Marriages site. In the Robertson Co., TN, 1840 census, there is a Hiram Rice, between 60-70. In the household is a female, 15-20, and two young males, one is 15-20 and one, 20-30. Neither of the boys would be the Hiram Rice of Perry Co., IL, because he would already have gone to (Perry Co.) Illinois, where assumed son, Alex., was born in 1835. 1840 Robertson Co., Hiram Rice household: 000110001 - 0001 The female and two young males could be relatives or hired hands who had come to help the elderly Hiram. Rice listings for 1830 census of Robertson Co., TN: Page 423 - Hiram Rice 10001001 - 00001 (male under five, male 20 - 30, and male 50-60; female 20-30. The 50-60 year old is Hiram, shown in 1840, above, as 60-70, and the 20-30 year old matches with Hiram, (Jr.) who would have been 23 in 1830, with his wife and 3 year old son, George W. Rice. Other listings in the 1830 census for Robertson Co., TN: Page 417 - Elizabeth Rice 01011 - 0001201 Page 427 - Waller W. Rice 01011 - 10001 Perhaps you have already examined Robertson Co.as a possible link to your Perry Co. Rices. This connection is based on supposition, but it sounds reasonable enough to be a starting point for your research if you haven't already crossed that bridge. Good luck! Shirley Malone Fritsche ==== ILHAMILT Mailing List ==== Listowner, Michael L. Hebert mailto:[email protected] - --------------------------------------------------------------- Visit Carol Yarbrough's Yesterdays in Hamilton County, Illinois at: http://www.carolyar.com/Illinois/HamiltonCounty.htm

Sorry, there is no Nancy Mayberry. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [ILGALLAT] the book > Hi Dave, > > Could you look for Nancy Mayberry when you get a chance. Thanks > > Sharon > >

Dave, Do you have any Gatlin in the book? Thanks, Joan

Trev, I didn't know that about the boundry change. The set of maps on the boundries doesn't reflect it. They show a shift to the north from 1817 to 1818. Anyway, maybe you can tell me where Mantua Twp was in White Co, in 1820? My brick wall for a long time has been Reuben Walden. He lived on the White / Gallatin Co line, on the White co side by todays line. He was most likely my ggg grandfather. Dave

Since everyone else has asked I may as well put in my request. Is there any mention of a James Phelps and/or Nancy (Fitzgerrald) Phelps. We can't seem to find them anywhere. Brenda Bremerton, WA

> Trev, > The original request mentioned Daniel Joseph who married Nancy Cunnington. I > looked in the Land grants and found an R. F. Cunningham picked up 160 ac. in > 1865, at sec 34, T8S R6E that's close to Moses. I wonder if it's Cunningham > instead of Cunnington. > Dave Anyway.... Moses probly took off for Harrisburg after the county seat moved in 1857. He also sold his land near galatia (He may have lost it, I can't remember :-) in 1857. Moses died 21 Dec 1883 at Carrier Mills, Saline Co.. Administrator was R. S. Marsh, leaves widow Mary P., and children STIFF?, Robert S., Nora Thompson and Davis. Daniel P. McGhee (s/o Robert & Martha Eubanks) married 10 Aug 1892 to Eva Choisser (d/o Napolean & Angeline Carter). Witnesses were J. W. BEASLEY, Lucy E. BRAMLET. I don't see anything else for a Joseph Daniel....or any other spelling.... Best Regards, Trev