I am not researching this line but found this: In the 1850 census for Pleasant twp., Fulton Co., IL (that's the twp. where Ipava is located) p 329 of transcribed copy (so there may be errors.) This is NOT the microfilm page #. fx # 2 LOVELL, James 40 m farmer val. r.e. $ 3000 b VA , Mary A. 19 f IL , Soloman 19 m farmer Ohio , Alina 13 f IL , William 11 m IL , John F. 6/12 m IL It looks to me like this James had an earlier wife. If the Mary A. shown is his 2nd wife, this marriage record might relate: Marriages, Fulton Co. IL vol A,B,C, 1824-1861 p.249 LOVELL, James to LITTLETON, Mary Ann Nov. 4, 1847 vol B. p72; license # 154 There is an older James on p 406 (transcribed copy) of the 1850 cen. but in Woodland twp.: fx 54 LOVELL, James 69 m farmer VA , Ruth 71 f VA. They are living next door to a large LOVELL fx: Samuel, 43, b VA whose children seem to indicate the same migration pattern of Va> Ohio> IL & at the same time as do the children of James on p. 329. Hope this helps...Barbara beeezeee@aol.com In a message dated 98-07-08 23:05:57 EDT, you write: << Hi I hope I'm doing this right. I looking for information on James Madison Lovell born Jun 2,1853 Ipava,Fulton, Illinois. His father was James Walter Lovell. Thank you for any information. Sharon Martin1990@AOL >>