Thanks to all who responded to my query re Illinois land records. Unfortunately, it wasn't my gg grandfather, but I'll keep looking. Carol

I found the following information today on Ancestry.com re land acquisition by a John Winkler in Illinois. The dates are correct for the time my gg grandfather immigrated to Fulton Co. from Germany. However, I have no idea of the location of the land described below. I was hoping that one of you would be able to tell me if the land described in is Fulton Co. It is in twp 5S, range 3W, meridian 3. Thanks for any help you can give me. Illinois Public Land Purchase Records Name: WINKLER JOHN Section: SENW Price: 125 Total: 5000 Date: 17 September 1853 Volume: 032 Page: 174 Type: FD Sect: 08 Township: 05S Range: 03W Meridian: 3 Acres: 4000 Corr-Tag: 0 ID: 430781 SocStat: Blank: Reside: 073 Name: WINKLER JOHN Section: NENE Price: 13 Total: 500 Date: 07 December 1854 Volume: 032 Page: 256 Type: FD Sect: 15 Township: 05S Range: 03W Meridian: 3 Acres: 4000 Corr-Tag: 0 ID: 435277 SocStat: Blank: Reside: 073 Carol Knoxville, TN

I had been trying for a couple of years to find out who this Phillip was. I got their marriage license today (Only took a week to come after I mailed request) and finally know! Phillip Heller married Lucy Eva Sherwood, daughter of George Sherwood and Lucinda Coakley, on March 17, 1892. This was a second marriage for both. He was 33 and she 23. Phillip was the son of James B. Heller whose parents were Phillip Heller and Frances Markley. James was brother to John J. Heller who married Cornelia Teatsworth, my second gr-grandparents. John and Cornelia were parents to my great grandfather, Phillip Heller who married Sarah Miller. Lucy Eva Sherwood was married 3 times; first to Joseph Hoffman, second to Phillip Heller, third to Bruce Fordyce. I have all 3 certificates. I've been trying to find Phillips first wife but no luck, nothing in IL marriage index. I did find a census, 1880, with James and Mary, his parents and next door is a Phillip and Mary with children, Maud Reva (3) and James J (1). I think this might be the same Phillip I'm looking for but no proof. I found James and his family in 1860 and 1880 but not in 1870. Think the census taker passed them over that year. Will the confusion ever end? I think not. If it did then I would know it all. Carla Finley, Venice, FL My photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/carlafinley

Donna, Here is Thomas & Marcy STANDARD,Thomas b.11 Mar.1799 d.20 Dec.1877 SRANDARD,Mary or Marcy ,w/o Thomas b.30 July 1802 d.18 Jun. 1839 looks like Thomas may have remarried? STANDARD,Rachel w/o Thomas b. 3 Nov.1816 d. 25 Mar.1890 burial is at the MOORE(Standard) (Smith Cemetery Joshua twp. This cemetery is located at the Junction of Rt.9 and Rt.97. Located at the top of Sugar Creek Hill on the N. side of Rt.9. Cemetery Inscripitons of Fulton Co. Illinois Vol. 4 Fairview and Joshua twp. Tina Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:59:33 -0500 From: "Donna Payo" <donnap@wi.rr.com> To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <01f801c5d262$38195760$6600a8c0@donna> Subject: CEMETERY LOOK-UP PLEASE!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello List Memebers: I'm hoping someone can help me, I'm looking for the cemetery records of the STANDARD family that resided in Joshua twp. In particular Thomas Standard and his first wife Marcy, I'd like to know what her dod was. I would be grateful for any help on this family and thanks well in advance. Donna

I am looking for my roots. 1880's miners from England. George Asquith married to Jane Dixon living with Isaac Inman. Sons, Thomas, Lloyd, Joseph, Dixon, Leon and Daughters Polly and Edith. Any newspaper accounts of the ball teams or football teams in the l900's. My grandfather was called Jocko Asquith or Lloyd Asquith and there was a Dick Asquith that may have died. I have an account from the "Centennial" or "Cuba Journal" regarding the ball teams that mention their names. I would like pictures and more information. I researched at the library on twice trying to find microfilm on old newspaper articles. I was denied getting a copy of the sesquicentennial paper as they said they were running low. Quite a blow since I had travelled 1200 miles to get it. But what can you say. She made a few copies of some pages. But I would like the whole paper. I think you are offering it now for $3.00. Any information I could receive would be appreciated.

Surnames: BREWER, BURGE, CLEESEN, CRANE, GALLAGHER, GARNER, GOLLAGHER, GOLLIHER, HESTER, HILL, LANE, LARSON, McMULLEN, MILLS, MOORE, MORGAN, REDDICK, RETTIG, ROBERSON, ROGERS, ROSS, ST. CLAIR, WARDELL, WHITTAKER I am researching the Jonas and Delilah BURGE MORGAN family in Fulton County, Putman Township, Illinois. I am attempting to prove a connection between my BREWER lineage and the BREWER connection to MORGAN. I believe Jonas and Delilah BURGE MORGAN's daughter, Elmira (alias Almira, Elmyra, Ella) could be the first wife (or some relation) to my William BREWER (born March 15, 1862 Ohio, died Feb. 3, 1925 in Quincy, Adams County, Illinois). The Illinois Marriage Index shows Almira MORGAN married a William H. BREWER in Fulton County Illinois on Jan. 10, 1878. The 1880 census shows Elmyra having 2 BREWER children (Florence M. & Jonas, but her husband Wm. isn't there. I believe I found Wm. BREWER living in Marion County, Missouri with LARSON family. (see both below) 1880 Illinois Census, Fulton County, Putnam Township, Roll T9-208, Family History Film 1254208, Page 372D, District 54, Image 0265, Dated June 21 & 22, 1880 288 306 MORGAN, Jonas, 76 yrs old, Farmer, ___, VA VA VA MORGAN, Delila, 75 yrs old, wife, Keeping House, OH PA PA MORGAN, Dolly, 25 yrs old, dau, at home, IL VA OH BREWER, Elmyra, 29 yrs old, dau, at home, IL VA OH MORGAN, Flora, 9 yrs old, grand dau, at home, IL IL IL BREWER, Florence M., 2 yrs old, grand dau, IL IL IL BREWER, Jonas, 2 mos. old, (born April) Grand son, IL IL IL 1880 Missouri Census, Miller Township, Marion County, Family History Film # 1254702, Roll T9-0702, page 313A LARSON, Robert, Head, 54 yrs, Farmer, NY, ENG, ENG LARSON, Mary, wife 43 yrs, Keeping House, VA, VA, VA LARSON, Mary, dau, single, 33 yrs, OH, NY, OH ROBERSON, Edward, 23 yrs, single, Farm Laborer, KY, KY, KY ROSS, John , 22 yrs, single, Farm Laborer, MO, KY, KY BREWER, William, 18 yrs, single, Farm Laborer, MO, MO, MO *** Note: A Florence BREWER married Gust LARSON in Fulton Co, IL on May 9, 1896 cert# 00000117 The 1900 census shows: 1900 Illinois Census, Fulton County, Putman Township, Cuba City, Dated June 2, 1900 32 32 MORGAN, Ella, Head, Oct 1851, 49 yrs, single, 3 children born & 3 alive, IL, VA, OH MORGAN, Delila, sister, March 1856, 44 yrs, single, 1 child born & 1 alive, IL, VA, OH MORGAN, Jonas, son, April 1880, 20 yrs, single, IL, IL, IL, Farmer The 1910 census shows: 1910 Illinois Census, Fulton County, Putman Township, District 97, Series T624, Roll 288, Part 2, page 180B 41 41 BREWER, Jonas, Head, 30 yrs old, single, IL IL IL, odd Job laborer MORGAN, Ella, mother, 58 yrs old, divorced, 3 children born & 2 alive IL IL IL. ============== Here's info on my William BREWER (1862- Feb. 3, 1925) According to Wm. BREWER obit. he was born March 15, 1862 in Ohio and married Lula Rebecca REDDICK ROGERS Sept. 28, 1905 in Hannibal, Marion County, Missouri. His survivors were his widow and 5 children- Leslie (alias William Roy Leslie or W. R. Leslie), Sarah, Otis BREWER and George Buhler ROGERS and one brother John William BREWER. The Duker Funeral Home records show Wm. BREWER was born Jan. 15, 1862 in Ohio and his parents were William and Louise HILL BREWER and he married Lula RETTIG. Known FACTS: Wm. and Lula BREWER had 2 children Sarah Irene (married Carl McMULLEN) and Otis Charles (married Elsa M. CLEESEN). William's brother, John William BREWER was born Feb. 27, 1857 in Ohio (poss. Finley) He died June 27, 1927 in Quincy, Adams Co. IL. He married Hester (aka - Hattie) Miranda ROGERS (WARDELL) on Jan. 24, 1878 in Hannibal, Marion County, Missouri. She was a daughter of John M. WARDELL (alias ROGERS) and his wife Elizabeth (aka- Lizzie) Caroline GOLLAGHER ( maiden name varies GOLLIHER, GALLAGHER etc.) John M. and Lizzie divorced and she then marriage William E. LANE and lived in Hannibal. Lizzie was known as "Granny LANE". William BREWER married Lula Rebecca REDDICK ROGERS. Lula was the first married to George Buhler ROGERS, the brother of Hester (Hattie) WARDELL ROGERS (above) Obit on W. R. Leslie BREWER states he was born Aug. 23, 1892 near Kinderhook, Pike County, Illinois. He was discharged from the army as totally disabled on Sept. 3, 1918. He was a chef at the DeLuxe Cafe in Hannibal, Mo. before enlisting in the service at New London, Ralls County, Missouri. He lived in Hull, Pike County, IL. and then moved to Quincy, Adams County, Illinois where he died on Nov. 30, 1925. Survivors- his widow Letha WHITTAKER BREWER, a son; Ora BREWER, mother, Mrs. Anna ST. CLAIR, sister's Mrs. Willis (Cora L.) MOORE and Mrs. Carl (Sarah Irene) McMULLEN Obit for Mrs. Anna ST. CLAIR states she was born April 6, 1869 a daughter of John and Frances Elizabeth GARNER MORGAN. She died late Jan. 1938 in Quincy IL. Her husband was William ST. CLAIR and son Leslie preceded her in death. Survivors- a daughter Cora MOORE & 2 brother; James MORGAN of Quincy and Lee MORGAN of Marblehead, Adams Co. IL., a sister, Mrs. Frances Elizabeth CRANE of Moberly, Randolph County, Mo., 5 grandchildren Mrs. Florence HESTER, Russell, Cecil and Delores MOORE on Payson, Adams Co. IL, and Ora BREWER of Quincy. Greenmount Cemetery, Quincy IL. Records: Block B, Lot 39 - owner was Letha WHITTAKER BREWER MILLS (owner before her James MORGAN who lived 419 1/2 No. 4th. His name is crossed out.) 6 burial sites brought and there are only 4 burials: 1. Anna ST.CLAIR died Jan 26, 1938 - no stone 2. W. R. Leslie BREWER died Nov 30, 1925 - Military stone- MO Pvt.162 Depot Brig. 3. Bonita E. WHITTAKER died Feb 23, 1922- no stone 4. Elizabeth MORGAN died April 29, 1934 On the back of the index card at Greenmount Cemetery a note was written perhaps about 1968 according to the secretary at Greenmount. Last owners of the lot were Ora & Pansy BREWER, 4247 Descanso, Chino, California ---------------------- I checked the Social Security death index and found: Ora BREWER born Nov 27, 1901 and died May 1969 in Long Beach, Los Angeles, Calif. No Pansy BREWER MILLS, Letha Mildred, Cert# 2290124, death date Aug 29, 1925, Canton, Fulton County , Filed Date Aug 31, 1925 ---------------- Can anyone provide the missing link? I do have more information on Jonas MORGAN and family. Also more information on William BREWER and family. I will share. Thank you for your time. Judi Gilker

About THURMAN.... I just wanted to tell you that my GGGrandfather's (Uriah INGRAM) first wife was listed as "LIVONIA THURYMAN" from Versailles County IN. Livonia lived a short while in Hancock county IL and died a young woman. I had just assumed her last named was a misspelling of THURMAN. When I went to the records in Indiana, I found the family name was actually THOROUGHMAN. So if you have hit a road block with THURMAN, check the THOROUGHMAN name. Just a clue that might help!

Just subscribed. Fulton County names I am researching: COOPER---have back to DANIEL, b. 1843 in IL, but don't know where,served in Civil War, married NANCY ANN CAROLINE RUNK (1847-1923) 10/29/1865, buried in MO, do not have date of death. THURMAN---have back to EDWARD, b. 11/11/1808 in OH,married HANNAH MARIA BUFFOM(1814-1889) 03/23/1831 in Fulton Co., died 12/16/1887, buried at W.Midway cem, Young Hickory twnshp. Would like to obtain obits for this couple. BYERLY---my great-grandmother's family. have back to MARY ELIZABETH(MOLLY)Byerly, b.11/08/1869,married CHARLES GRANT THURMAN(1867-1935)12/24/1885, d.04/14/1929, buried at Ellisville cem. I can not find anything prior to Molly of the Byerly fam.( My grandmother told of family losing husband & oldest son in well, then the mother passing away soon after & remaining children scattered to relatives,but don't know if this is Molly's family or her aunt's. Would like newspaper articles on this.) EFFLAND--- have back to JUSTUS,b.09/15/1837,Hesse-Cassel, Germany,came to America 1857,m. CATHERINE STICK(1847-1913) 01/24/1864. Died 11/22/1910. ( Justus' father,JOHN,died in Germany,1849. Justus' mother,THIRZA SHUBART came to America 1862, died 1880 in OH) How do I obtain records from other states & countries??? Thank you. Elizabeth C.

Hello List Memebers: I'm hoping someone can help me, I'm looking for the cemetery records of the STANDARD family that resided in Joshua twp. In particular Thomas Standard and his first wife Marcy, I'd like to know what her dod was. I would be grateful for any help on this family and thanks well in advance. Donna

Hi Everyone, Here are a few updates completed so far...for the month of October...more to come... :-) Sincere thanks to all contributors and transcribers...what a great bunch of researchers!! I promise to get all submissions online soon... * Data about Oren Seward, a survivior of Andersonville prison, was submitted by David Seward. * Information about the Burnetts buried in Coal Creek Lutheran Cemetery was sent in by Anna Cooke Petrick. * Pictures of the Montgomery Cemetery along with tombstone pictures/bounty land application of Michael France was contributed by Lynda Schoonover. * Lou Ann Cameron submitted obituaries for: John Demy, Henry Demy, Mary Blemler, Anna Blemler and Daniel Blemler. * Donald Parkinson submitted great tombstone pictures (Oak Hill Cemetery) to go along with Edgar Lee Masters' poems from the Spoon River Anthology book. * We now have a new section called" Black Sheep". Thank you, Carla Finley, for transcribing data for this section. We're taking new submissions... * Many biographies from the History of Fulton County (1879) have been transcribed by Carla Finley. More to come... * Ron Manroe has transcribed Chapters 28 and 31 of the 85th Illinois Infantry book. Thanks again everyone! Please be sure to check the "Surnames" and "Look-up" sections...new look-up offers! have a great autumn, Janine www.iltrails.org/fulton

This is from a KY. list--she said, sitting home on Columbus Day.l >From: 'Collier's Cyclopedia of Commercial and Social Information and >Treasury of Useful and Entertaining Knowledge on Art, Science, Pastimes, >Belles-Lettres, and Many, Other Subjects of Interest in the American Home >Circle'.  'Compiled by Nugent Robinson'.  Published 'New York - Peter >Fenelon Collier & Son - MCM' 'Copyright 1882 by P.F. Collier.' > >Legal Holidays in the United States. >The nation has no legal holidays, although by statute it recognizes some >State holidays to the extent of allowing national banks, the post-offices >and the nation's employees in general to conform to local custom.  There >are >no legal holidays in Arkansas, Kansas and Mississippi, although work is >suspended by common consent in Kansas on the holidays most generally >celebrated in other States; Arkansas and Mississippi "keep" Christmas and >the Fourth of July without legal enactment. > >Holidays provided by State laws are as follows: >Jan. 1. - New Year's Day: in all States but Arkansas, Kansas, Mississippi, >Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire. >Jan. 8. - Anniversary of Battle of New Orleans: Louisiana. >Jan. 19. - General Lee's Birthday: Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, North >Carolina, and Virginia. >Feb. 12. - Lincoln's Birthday: Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, >and Washington. >Feb. 22. - Washington's Birthday: all States but Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, >and >Mississippi. >March 2. - Anniversary of Texan Independence: Texas. >March 4. - Fireman's Anniversary in New Orleans, La. >April 19. - Patriots' Day: Massachusetts. >April 21. - Anniversary of Battle of San Jacinto: Texas. >April 26. - Memorial Day: Alabama, Florida, and Georgia. >May 10. - Memorial Day: North Carolina. >May 20. - Anniversary of Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence: North >Carolina. >May 30. _ Decoration Day: In Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, >Delaware, District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, >Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, >Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, >Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin, >Washington, and Wyoming. >June 3. - Jefferson Davis's Birthday: Alabama and Florida. >July 4. - Independence Day: In all states but Arkansas, Mississippi, and >Kansas. >July 24. - Pioneers' Day: Utah. >Aug. 16. - Bennington Battle-day: Vermont. >Sept. (first Saturday of). - Labor Day: Pennsylvania. >Sept. (first Monday of). - Labor Day: Alabama, Colorado, Connecticut, >Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, >Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New >Jersey, >New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, >Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, and Wyoming. >Oct. (first Monday of). - Labor Day: California. >Oct. 15. - Lincoln Day: Connecticut. >Oct. 31. - Admission Day: Nevada. >Nov. 1. - All Saints' Day: Louisiana. >Nov. (first Tuesday after first Monday of). - General Election Day: >Arizona, >California, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, >Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, >Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, >West Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. >Nov. (last Wednesday of). - Labor Day: Louisiana. >Nov. (last Thursday of). - Thanksgiving Day: observed in all States in >compliance with Governors proclamations. >Dec. 25. - Christmas: all States but Arkansas, Kansas, and Mississippi. > >Arbor Day (celebrated on different dates, according to proclamation or >statute): in Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Montana, Minnesota, Nebraska, North >Dakota, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Rhode Island, Texas, and Utah. > >Saturday afternoons are legal holidays in Maryland, New Jersey, New York, >Pennsylvania and the cities of New Orleans, Wilmington (Del.), as well as >in >New-castle County, Del., and Denver, Col., from June 1 to September 30. > >Of holidays on varying dates are Good Friday, in Alabama, Louisiana, >Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Tennessee; Mardi Gras, in Alabama and the >Parish >of Orleans, La.; State Election Day, in Rhode Island in early April. >

Hi John, I have sent you some information separately on Joseph Hollandsworth. Karen

Hello to the list, I'm hoping to find some information on "Joseph Thomas Hollandsworth", who apparently died April 09, 1902 in Canton, IL. If anyone could help me on this, I'd really appreciate it. Thank You, John Chillicothe,IL.

Hello, all! I was wondering if anyone on this list is researching the surname WILLS? Specifically: John, James and Washington. They were born in PA and lived in Canton in the 1860 census. I think they moved to Chicago or at least had a business there later on. Judy Landauer

While going through the Vol 10 Cemetery Inscriptions for Fulton County I noticed for a reference they noted "Looking Back notes". Does anyone know what these notes are? Carla Finley, Venice, FL My photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/carlafinley

OOPS! I made a mistake. My WAGGONER line is an early Illinois line of Hancock county, but my GGrandmother (Etta May Ingram Longwell) married a "C H WAGNER" from Warren Co.... I got my "WAGS" mixed up! It should read: But stories like these leave a pit in my stomach, as I have not been able to find any sign of my WILLIAMS family of Illinois 1840 Nauvoo - supposedly buried on a bluff overlooking the Mississippi. Nor can I find the resting place of my GGrandmother: Etta "May" INGRAM LONGWELL WAGNER, (b 1879) who supposedly lived in Fulton, IL (town of Vermont) as late as 1945. Thank you for your work Foxie. I hope more are saved before it's too late. Val -----Original Message----- From: boatkitten@aol.com To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:56:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [ILFULTON] Family Cemeteries Hi Tina, I don't have info about a family cemetery in Fulton, but I do know there must be millions of them missing out there. I was listening to an old cassette tape recording of two of my Great Aunts in Iowa from around 1975. They were retelling family stories, and described an old family plot that was on the land her Grandparents bought in 1880. They kept the stones intact, and farmed around it. But in the 1920's, when they sold the land, the new owners plowed right on through the little cemetery. Today there is no sign of it. I heard a similar story when I was living in Texas. While researching in the library, a young man approached the genealogy expert who was sitting near me. He said they were clearing brush from their ranch, when they noticed a number of large rocks under a fairly large growth of brush. He then realized they were tombstones, and they had all been pushed together in a heap years ago. Obviously they were no longer on the graves they were supposed to identify. This young man wanted to find out where the plots might be. Luckily, the researcher already knew what cemetery it probably was, and was able to find more information. But stories like these leave a pit in my stomach, as I have not been able to find any sign of my WILLIAMS family of Illinois 1840 Nauvoo - supposedly buried on a bluff overlooking the Mississippi. Nor can I find the resting place of my GGrandmother: Etta "May" INGRAM LONGWELL WAGGONER, (b 1879) who supposedly lived in Fulton, IL (town of Vermont) as late as 1945. My search just reached the 10th year -- I don't think I'll ever find them. Val -----Original Message----- From: TINA REED <chops57@hotmail.com> To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:54:04 -0500 Subject: [ILFULTON] Family Cemeteries Hello List, Does anyone know if family cemeteries (family plots) are recorded by the FCH&GS? Most of us have one or two ancestors missing from our trees and wonder where they might be buried. It occurred to me that so many folks owned their own land back then maybe they were buried out under their favorite shade tree. As a kid growing up in Fulton Co. I remember seeing an old family cemetery not far from our place. The families name was KRAFT. (there may have been 8 burials) They had at least 3 children that died one right after another. I remember thinking how sad it must have been for them to have lost their children so close together and they were all so young . That family cemetery unfortunately was destroyed about 20 years ago, maybe longer by the owner of the land. As far as I know this cemetery wasn't recorded by the FCH&GS. It would be interesting to know if others on this list know of similar family cemeteries in the Fulton Co. area. Hindsight is always 20/20, I sure wish now that I had wrote down the information about the KRAFT family. Better yet, it would have been nice if the owner of the land had enough respect and let the KRAFT family Rest In Peace. Tina ==== ILFULTON Mailing List ==== To switch from "MAIL" Mode (each message arrives singly) to "DIGEST" Mode (mail arrives in batches of 25 max) First subscribe to Digest Mode, then unsubscribe from Mail Mode ==== ILFULTON Mailing List ==== To Subscribe to the mailing list in MAIL MODE send an email message to: ILFULTON-L-request@rootsweb.com Put ONLY the word "SUBSCRIBE" in the body (Turn off your signature files)

Hi Tina, I don't have info about a family cemetery in Fulton, but I do know there must be millions of them missing out there. I was listening to an old cassette tape recording of two of my Great Aunts in Iowa from around 1975. They were retelling family stories, and described an old family plot that was on the land her Grandparents bought in 1880. They kept the stones intact, and farmed around it. But in the 1920's, when they sold the land, the new owners plowed right on through the little cemetery. Today there is no sign of it. I heard a similar story when I was living in Texas. While researching in the library, a young man approached the genealogy expert who was sitting near me. He said they were clearing brush from their ranch, when they noticed a number of large rocks under a fairly large growth of brush. He then realized they were tombstones, and they had all been pushed together in a heap years ago. Obviously they were no longer on the graves they were supposed to identify. This young man wanted to find out where the plots might be. Luckily, the researcher already knew what cemetery it probably was, and was able to find more information. But stories like these leave a pit in my stomach, as I have not been able to find any sign of my WILLIAMS family of Illinois 1840 Nauvoo - supposedly buried on a bluff overlooking the Mississippi. Nor can I find the resting place of my GGrandmother: Etta "May" INGRAM LONGWELL WAGGONER, (b 1879) who supposedly lived in Fulton, IL (town of Vermont) as late as 1945. My search just reached the 10th year -- I don't think I'll ever find them. Val -----Original Message----- From: TINA REED <chops57@hotmail.com> To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 14:54:04 -0500 Subject: [ILFULTON] Family Cemeteries Hello List, Does anyone know if family cemeteries (family plots) are recorded by the FCH&GS? Most of us have one or two ancestors missing from our trees and wonder where they might be buried. It occurred to me that so many folks owned their own land back then maybe they were buried out under their favorite shade tree. As a kid growing up in Fulton Co. I remember seeing an old family cemetery not far from our place. The families name was KRAFT. (there may have been 8 burials) They had at least 3 children that died one right after another. I remember thinking how sad it must have been for them to have lost their children so close together and they were all so young . That family cemetery unfortunately was destroyed about 20 years ago, maybe longer by the owner of the land. As far as I know this cemetery wasn't recorded by the FCH&GS. It would be interesting to know if others on this list know of similar family cemeteries in the Fulton Co. area. Hindsight is always 20/20, I sure wish now that I had wrote down the information about the KRAFT family. Better yet, it would have been nice if the owner of the land had enough respect and let the KRAFT family Rest In Peace. Tina ==== ILFULTON Mailing List ==== To switch from "MAIL" Mode (each message arrives singly) to "DIGEST" Mode (mail arrives in batches of 25 max) First subscribe to Digest Mode, then unsubscribe from Mail Mode

Tina and list- Yes, we have had such an incident in our family. The 'Trail or Heartley Cemetery' in Ellisville, sections 7 and 18. A family member had found a list of the burials, including the names Heartley, Jones, Wilson, and 2 of my Cain family. The note said "a bulldozer went through the center of the cemetery to put the fence in. Also, the hogs have torn it all up." Evidently, this should have been an historical site, as those who died 'on the trail' were buried there. Our Cain burials are dated 1845 and 1855. "Some old-timers say there were about 25 stones at one time." I don't know if the Historical Society has this one listed, either. So much for perpetual care. Cherilyn Trusty

Hello List, Does anyone know if family cemeteries (family plots) are recorded by the FCH&GS? Most of us have one or two ancestors missing from our trees and wonder where they might be buried. It occurred to me that so many folks owned their own land back then maybe they were buried out under their favorite shade tree. As a kid growing up in Fulton Co. I remember seeing an old family cemetery not far from our place. The families name was KRAFT. (there may have been 8 burials) They had at least 3 children that died one right after another. I remember thinking how sad it must have been for them to have lost their children so close together and they were all so young . That family cemetery unfortunately was destroyed about 20 years ago, maybe longer by the owner of the land. As far as I know this cemetery wasn't recorded by the FCH&GS. It would be interesting to know if others on this list know of similar family cemeteries in the Fulton Co. area. Hindsight is always 20/20, I sure wish now that I had wrote down the information about the KRAFT family. Better yet, it would have been nice if the owner of the land had enough respect and let the KRAFT family Rest In Peace. Tina

Aaron Benham and Mary Ann Archer are the correct parents of John M. Benham. My brother made an incorrect assumption when he said that Richard and Catherine Everhart Benham were the parents. This line has been proved for membership in First Families of Montgomery County, Ohio, First Families of Hamilton County, Ohio, and First Families of Ohio. Check the 1850 and 1860 censuses and the book "Benhams in America" by Georgiana Randall. X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:40:02 EDT From: DollArtistCarla@aol.com To: ILFULTON-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <65.4de7b989.30617942@aol.com> Subject: confusion on John M. Benham Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" John married Eliza Miller. I have his parents as Aaron and Mary Archer Benham. An old paper in moms things written by CA Rogers in 1975, has his parents as the brother of Aaron, Richard and Catherine Everhart Benham. Several websites also differ and list both set of parents. Who is right? Who are the correct parents? Does anyone know for sure? Carla Finley, Venice, FL My photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/carlafinley