Since this subject has come up again, I am curious if any of you are familiar with a DNA test that women can take that can be useful for genealogy purposes, namely the Family Finder test at Family Tree DNA. It is an autosomal test that identifies strands of DNA from all your ancestors for about 5 generations back. If you have some matches that indicate a relationship, then you can compare ancestral surnames to see where it is likely you share a common ancestor. Note that the results are limited to the Family Finder database, which currently is much smaller than the yDNA database. I know that results are 'stronger' through the male line, but I have none available to test so this seems like my best bet, IF it is worth the money. Please share with me/us your thoughts/experiences. Kay In a message dated 2/28/2013 1:06:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, Julia.Schroeder@jalc.edu writes: Yes I have Sheldon. The name that you gave as a connection I think to your father-in-law I actually have a lot of those in my listing. The name does not hit me right now. I thought about sending you a message previously about that. We have not figured out though how we connect. Julia Sent from my Julia's iPhone On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:24 AM, "Sheldon Jones" <srjones@pcisys.net> wrote: > I would like to know if any of you on-line at the FCI list have had their > autosomal DNA done at 23andme.com ? > > My results just came in - I've already seen a match (daughter and > granddaughter of Robert CONNALLY / Patsy NEAL ) with a 4C1R on my NEAL/WEBB > lines - woo hoo! > > -SRJ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does any one know where Gola David WHITLOW is buried? He was b. 1903 & died in 1952. Thanks, Pat Corona

Thanks, Larry for the information -----Original Message----- From: Larry Lance Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:31 PM To: ilfrankl@rootsweb.com ; Larry Lance Subject: Re: [ILFRANKL] Who are, Hutchcraft and Williams Harry Ezra Williams s/o Sidney F. "Sid" Williams and Mary Jane Underwood Sid s/o Austin Williams & Cordelia E. Woods Mary d/o John Underwood & Amanda Stilts Loraine Margaret Hutchcraft d/o Ulla Hutchcraft & Luna May Dixon On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:42 PM, BLS <elvis500@frontier.com> wrote: > Who are the parent sof Lorriane M. HUTCHCRAGT and the parents of Harry > Ezra WILLIAMS??? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kay   I have had Y-DNA testing (FTDNA) but plan to get autosomal testing from 23andme.  23andme has drastically lowered their price.  Further, you can have your results converted to FTDNA's Family Finder and the total is still less than the FTDNA price for Family Finder.   For a comparison of providers see http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart   As to the usefulness of the testing, as usual, it depends.  The critical factor is the willingness of participants to share their family data.  This varies widely, but FTDNA seems to attract more people with a serious interest in genealogy, so it might be worth getting into the Family Finder database.  As I recall, a number of people have reported getting a better response rate through Family Finder than through either Ancestry or 23andme.   -- Roger Ray

Harry Ezra Williams s/o Sidney F. "Sid" Williams and Mary Jane Underwood Sid s/o Austin Williams & Cordelia E. Woods Mary d/o John Underwood & Amanda Stilts Loraine Margaret Hutchcraft d/o Ulla Hutchcraft & Luna May Dixon On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:42 PM, BLS <elvis500@frontier.com> wrote: > Who are the parent sof Lorriane M. HUTCHCRAGT and the parents of Harry Ezra WILLIAMS??? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob notes: Jane's mother was called Winnie for Winniford and her grandmother was called Hannah for Johanna, but both would have been dead by the time frame mentioned in the article.   --------------------   Johanna Rea (wife of James Rea Henry Co VA) is certainly deceased by 1795 [cf. Henry Co DB V:199-200], but I've not found evidence of the death of Winnifred Rea [wife of William Collin(g)s Rea] so I'm not sure she has died by 1830. Instead, the scenario I'm contemplating is one in which both Thomas Ray and Hannah Ray are both children of Wm Collins  & Winnifred Rea.  There are some very interesting similarities between these Marion Co TN Ray families and a number of Reas who appeared in FCI sometime ~1840 or so.  [I'll have to write a separate post with a better subject line to elaborate on this idea.]

Yes I have Sheldon. The name that you gave as a connection I think to your father-in-law I actually have a lot of those in my listing. The name does not hit me right now. I thought about sending you a message previously about that. We have not figured out though how we connect. Julia Sent from my Julia's iPhone On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:24 AM, "Sheldon Jones" <srjones@pcisys.net> wrote: > I would like to know if any of you on-line at the FCI list have had their > autosomal DNA done at 23andme.com ? > > My results just came in - I've already seen a match (daughter and > granddaughter of Robert CONNALLY / Patsy NEAL ) with a 4C1R on my NEAL/WEBB > lines - woo hoo! > > -SRJ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Roy Howard Brown first married Daphne Black. I have in my file that they had a son, Leroy Howard Brown that married Sandy Preston. and Leroy and Sandy have two children Leann and Chris. Roy's obit lists another son Kenneth Michael Brown and another grandchild, Cindy Brown. Does anyone know if Kenneth is also Daphne's son and who is Cindy's parents? Bob

Sheldon, You recently updated info. on the Veach family that was being discussed. You had listed info. for James Paul Loman that married Helen Veach. with a ? mark. This is the info. I have on him.. Dec 28, 1917 - Mar 6, 1990. I don't know that he was born in Jefferson County, as his family lived in the Decatur, IL area around then. Bob

Who are the parents of George W. EUBANKS 1810 FCI married 1-22-1848 FCI Mary Ann BROWNING 1799 Who are the parents of Mary Ann BROWNING and who are their children??

Dale Houseworth recently sent me these two obits. I did not find either in the archives. Hazel passed away last month. Gerald's obit. and stone has his name as Jerry Wane Veach, but he is listed in the 1940 census as Gerald Veach. Bob The Evansville Courier and Press, January 21, 2013; Hazel Reynolds Veach Fort Branch, Ind. Hazel Reynolds Veach, 89, of Pompano Beach, Fla., died January 9, 2013. She is survived by her grandchildren, James W. Veach, Jerald A. Veach, Karen A. Veach, and Ann Marie S. Veach. She will be sorely missed by family, friends, and others who loved her. Graveside services Wednesday, January 23, 2013, at 1 p.m. at Walnut Hill Cemetery, in Gibson County Indiana. Arrangements are with Stodghill Funeral Home 500 E Park, Fort Branch IN 47648. The Sun Sentinel, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, September 27, 2011, Veach, Jerry Wayne Veach, Jerry Wayne, of Pompano Beach, FL, passed away on September 22, 2011. A viewing will be held at Kraeer Funeral Home on Thursday, September 29, 2011. He is survived by his mother, Hazel Reynolds Veach; and children, James W. Veach, Jerald A. Veach, Karen A. Veach, and Ann Marie S. Veach. He will be sorely missed by family, friends, and others who loved him. Graveside services will be held at Walnut Hill Cemetery, in Gibson County Indiana. Arrangements entrusted to: KRAEER FUNERAL HOME & CREMATION CENTER, 200 North Federal Highway, Pompano Beach, FL 33062. (954) 941-4111. www.kraeerpompanobeach.net

I had mine done through Ancestry and have had several matches through that. Michelle -----Original Message----- From: Sheldon Jones Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:24 AM To: ilfrankl@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILFRANKL] Autosomal DNA question I would like to know if any of you on-line at the FCI list have had their autosomal DNA done at 23andme.com ? My results just came in - I've already seen a match (daughter and granddaughter of Robert CONNALLY / Patsy NEAL ) with a 4C1R on my NEAL/WEBB lines - woo hoo! -SRJ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh no, I'm so sorry to see this. I worked with Ruthie on our Hayes lines. My heartfelt sympathies go out to her family. Michelle -----Original Message----- From: BLS Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:48 AM To: Franklin County Subject: [ILFRANKL] THOMAS, Ruthie A. (OBIT) RUTHIE DID RESEARCH ON FRANKLIN COUNTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS CHRISTOPHER -- Ruthie A. Thomas, 65, passed away at 5:59 a.m. Sunday, Feb. 24, 2013, at her home. She was born July 3, 1947, in West Frankfort, the daughter of Harry Almer and Bertha Bell (Hayse) Thomas. Most recently, her friends knew her from working at Huck's in Christopher. Before that, she worked in West Frankfort and Benton as a self-employed cosmetologist. Survivors include her daughter, Annabelle Shukites of Christopher; grandsons, Zane Vincent Shukites and Xander Roderick Shukites, both of Christopher; the grandsons' father, Phillip Shukites of Christopher; Melissa Watson of Christopher, who was like a daughter to Ruthie; Diana Dunn-Styles of Akin, who was Ruthie's best friend and caretaker; brother, Lowell Cabot Thomas and wife, Karen, of Collinsville; sister, Harriet Alma Thomas Presa and husband, Terry, of Benton; and several nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by her parents; and three brothers, Charles Almer Thomas, Ronald Joe Thomas and John Wallace Thomas. Services will be at 1 p.m. Friday, March 1, in Masonic and Oddfellows Cemetery in Benton with Minister John Michael Shukites officiating. There will be no visitation. Those attending the services are asked to meet at the cemetery. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to the family and will be accepted at the services. Morton and Johnston Funeral Home in Benton is in charge of arrangements. Published in The Southern Illinoisan on February 28, 2013 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ILFRANKL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

RUTHIE DID RESEARCH ON FRANKLIN COUNTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS CHRISTOPHER -- Ruthie A. Thomas, 65, passed away at 5:59 a.m. Sunday, Feb. 24, 2013, at her home. She was born July 3, 1947, in West Frankfort, the daughter of Harry Almer and Bertha Bell (Hayse) Thomas. Most recently, her friends knew her from working at Huck's in Christopher. Before that, she worked in West Frankfort and Benton as a self-employed cosmetologist. Survivors include her daughter, Annabelle Shukites of Christopher; grandsons, Zane Vincent Shukites and Xander Roderick Shukites, both of Christopher; the grandsons' father, Phillip Shukites of Christopher; Melissa Watson of Christopher, who was like a daughter to Ruthie; Diana Dunn-Styles of Akin, who was Ruthie's best friend and caretaker; brother, Lowell Cabot Thomas and wife, Karen, of Collinsville; sister, Harriet Alma Thomas Presa and husband, Terry, of Benton; and several nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by her parents; and three brothers, Charles Almer Thomas, Ronald Joe Thomas and John Wallace Thomas. Services will be at 1 p.m. Friday, March 1, in Masonic and Oddfellows Cemetery in Benton with Minister John Michael Shukites officiating. There will be no visitation. Those attending the services are asked to meet at the cemetery. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to the family and will be accepted at the services. Morton and Johnston Funeral Home in Benton is in charge of arrangements. Published in The Southern Illinoisan on February 28, 2013

THOMPSONVILLE -- Jim Kopec, 56, of Springfield, passed away Monday, Feb. 25, 2013, at his home with his family by his side. Jim was born Dec. 14, 1956, in Chicago, the son of Joseph Vincent and Lois Jean Marie (Schmidt) Kopec. After the family moved to Southern Illinois, Jim graduated from Thompsonville High School. Jim graduated in 1981 from MacMurray College in Jacksonville, with a BS degree in special physical education. Jim taught at The Hope Institute (formerly Hope School), water safety instruction at the YWCA of Springfield, pre-school at First Baptist Church Day Care, and adaptive physical education for Springfield School District 186. He also served as the assistant swim coach for Springfield Southeast High School Boys Swim Team. Before working for District 186, he helped manage The TumbleBus where the many children affectionately called him "Mr. Jim." Jim married Ruth Ellen (Morgan) White on June 12, 1989, and they shared 23 years together. They have one son, Shawn of Springfield. Jim was a past member of Harvard Park Baptist Church. Jim's hobbies and interests were wide and varied. He was a member of the Springfield Underwater Search and Rescue Team (SUSART) from 1982 until the time of his death having served most recently as Commander. Jim was a past member of the Springfield Jaycees, frequently working on the annual Haunted House where he was known for building confusing and frightening mazes. He enjoyed coaching and judging gymnastics and tumbling. Jim served four years with the Boy Scouts of America as a Cub Master for Troop 217. He was a current member of the Illinois and American Alliances for Health, Education, Recreation and Dance. Jim enjoyed constructing and flying radio-controlled planes and helicopters, and driving radio-controlled trucks and cars. He also enjoyed camping and canoeing with friends and family. Jim was a kind and loving husband, father, brother and uncle. He leaves behind his wife, Ruth; son, Shawn of Springfield; brothers, John and wife, Pam, and Jerome and wife, Patty; sister, Julie and partner, Alice; brother-in-law, Paul Morgan; sister-in-law, Dawne Lyons and husband, Louis; several nieces and nephews; and very dear friend Sheila McClung. He was preceded in death by both parents. Services will be at 11 a.m. Saturday, March 2, in Harvard Park Baptist Church. Burial will be in Oak Hill Cemetery in Springfield. Visitation will be from 5 to 7 p.m. Friday, March 1, at the church. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be directed to SUSART, American Cancer Society (Western Division) or American Heart Association. Church location is 2401 S. Nineth St., Springfield, IL 62703. The Kopec family is being served by Moran and Goebel Funeral Home and Cremation Services, 2801 N. Monroe St., Decatur, IL 62526. Condolences and memories may be shared at www.moranandgoebel.com. Published in The Southern Illinoisan on February 28, 2013

MARION -- Daniel Bunting, 73, passed away peacefully at 8:10 a.m. Saturday, Feb. 23, 2013, at his home. He was born Tuesday, Oct. 10, 1939, the son of David and Daisy (Murphy) Bunting. Daniel attended school in Marion and was a graduate of Marion High School in 1958. He was united in marriage to Carol Jean Vanzandt on Friday, March 18, 1960, in Scottsboro Baptist Church of Marion, and together they shared nearly 53 years of marriage. Daniel's working career began as a cement mason from 1959 until 1992. Then, in 1993, he began working and traveling all over the world for the United States Department of Defense as a civilian, working as their school support staff until his retirement in 2006. He was a member of Scottsboro Baptist Church and recently since his retirement was attending Our Redeemer Lutheran Church, both in Marion. In his spare time he enjoyed hunting, fishing, woodcarving and trap shooting. He also had the ability of telling wonderful stories both real and imagined and enjoyed telling the young school children these stories and watching their excitement. Both he and his wife, Carol, had many opportunities through their work to see many parts of the world, traveling to areas not experienced by many. Around the holidays, no matter where they were in the world, Daniel and Carol would travel back to the States to be with their family, enjoying the time together. Now those who are left behind will cherish the many memories that were created. He is survived by his wife, Carol J. Bunting of Marion; two sons and one daughter-in-law, Robert Daniel Bunting of San Francisco, Calif., and Scott and Kim Bunting of Christopher; five grandchildren, Katherine Bunting and her companion, Dwight Dillard of Phenix City, Ala., David Bunting and Jack Bunting, both of Christopher, and Kyle Hammonds and Kaylee Hammonds, both of Mulkeytown; great-granddaughter, Kya Dillard of Phenix City, Ala.; brother, Robert D. Bunting of Carbondale; sister-in-law and brother-in-law, Debra and Jim Burford of Marion; uncle, Bill Murphy of Marion; two nieces, Alysa Bunting and companion, Tim Moulton, of Johnston City, and Michelle (Burford) Kinner and husband, Eric, of Burlington, Iowa, and nephew, Eric Bunting and wife, Jamie, of Marion; great-niece, Rumer Bunting of Marion; two great-nephews, Tucker Bunting of Marion, and Aiden Moulton of Johnston City; four cousins, Jennifer Hudgens, Tom Murphy and Brad Murphy, all of Marion, and Gina Murphy of Winflow, Maine; other extended family; and many friends. He was preceded in his death by his parents. Funeral service will be at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 2, in Wilson-McReynolds Funeral Home at 900 N. Court St. in Marion. Interment will be in Lakeview Cemetery of Johnston City. Visitation for family and friends will be from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Saturday at the funeral home. For those who prefer, memorial contributions may be made to TIP Hospice or Our Redeemer Lutheran Church or the charity of choice. Envelopes will be available at the funeral home or memorials may be mailed in care of Wilson-McReynolds Funeral Home, P.O. Box 370, Marion, IL 62959. For additional information or to leave an online condolence or memory, visit www.wilsonmcreynolds.com. Published in The Southern Illinoisan from February 24

I would like to know if any of you on-line at the FCI list have had their autosomal DNA done at 23andme.com ? My results just came in - I've already seen a match (daughter and granddaughter of Robert CONNALLY / Patsy NEAL ) with a 4C1R on my NEAL/WEBB lines - woo hoo! -SRJ

Meant to send to Jefferson Co. Sorry about that.... Katherine J. Smith, 77, of Mt. Vernon, Illinois passed away at 3:08 A.M. on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 at Good Samaritan Regional Health Center in Mt. Vernon, Illinois. Mrs. Smith was born on Friday, January 24, 1936 in Jefferson County, Illinois the daughter of the late Roy and Ethel Tennessee (Ferguson) Wilson. She married Leroy Reynolds and he preceded her in death. She married Roy Dale Smith on June 12, 1967 in Mt. Vernon, Illinois and he preceded her in death on October 11, 2010. Surviving family members include her daughter: Donna Hays and husband Junior of Benton, Illinois; 2 sons: Joe Reynolds and wife Teresa of Mt. Vernon, Illinois and Jerry Reynolds of Mt. Vernon, Illinois; 3 granddaughters: Leslie Hammock and husband Harley, Holly Reynolds and Mandy Reynolds; 3 great grandchildren: Alecia Bumgarner of Mt. Vernon, Illinois and Brandon Hammock of Mt. Vernon, Illinois; brother: Roy Lee Wilson and wife Louise of Kansas City, Kansas; 4 sisters: Dorothy Donoho and husband Junior of Bonnie, Illinois, Laura Louise Whisenhunt of Mt. Vernon, Illinois, Annette Flanagan of Mt. Vernon, Illinois and Nelda Waller of Mt. Vernon, Illinois; several nieces and nephews also survive. Her parents, both husbands, one son: Leslie Leroy Reynolds, one brother: Winston Wilson and one sister: Ardyce Henkensiefken preceded her in death. She was a homemaker. GRAVESIDE SERVICES: will be held at 10:00 A.M. on Saturday, March 2, 2013 at Atkinson Cemetery in Jefferson County, Illinois. Reverend Merle Fullerton will officiate. VISITATION: will be held from 5 to 7:00 P.M. on Friday, March 1, 2013 at Hughey Funeral Home in Mt. Vernon, Illinois. INTERMENT: Atkinson Cemetery in Jefferson County, Illinois. For those who wish, memorials may be given to The Smith Family and will be accepted at the funeral home or may be mailed to Hughey Funeral Home, P.O. Box 721, Mt. Vernon, Illinois 62864.

Katherine J. Smith, 77, of Mt. Vernon, Illinois passed away at 3:08 A.M. on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 at Good Samaritan Regional Health Center in Mt. Vernon, Illinois. Mrs. Smith was born on Friday, January 24, 1936 in Jefferson County, Illinois the daughter of the late Roy and Ethel Tennessee (Ferguson) Wilson. She married Leroy Reynolds and he preceded her in death. She married Roy Dale Smith on June 12, 1967 in Mt. Vernon, Illinois and he preceded her in death on October 11, 2010. Surviving family members include her daughter: Donna Hays and husband Junior of Benton, Illinois; 2 sons: Joe Reynolds and wife Teresa of Mt. Vernon, Illinois and Jerry Reynolds of Mt. Vernon, Illinois; 3 granddaughters: Leslie Hammock and husband Harley, Holly Reynolds and Mandy Reynolds; 3 great grandchildren: Alecia Bumgarner of Mt. Vernon, Illinois and Brandon Hammock of Mt. Vernon, Illinois; brother: Roy Lee Wilson and wife Louise of Kansas City, Kansas; 4 sisters: Dorothy Donoho and husband Junior of Bonnie, Illinois, Laura Louise Whisenhunt of Mt. Vernon, Illinois, Annette Flanagan of Mt. Vernon, Illinois and Nelda Waller of Mt. Vernon, Illinois; several nieces and nephews also survive. Her parents, both husbands, one son: Leslie Leroy Reynolds, one brother: Winston Wilson and one sister: Ardyce Henkensiefken preceded her in death. She was a homemaker. GRAVESIDE SERVICES: will be held at 10:00 A.M. on Saturday, March 2, 2013 at Atkinson Cemetery in Jefferson County, Illinois. Reverend Merle Fullerton will officiate. VISITATION: will be held from 5 to 7:00 P.M. on Friday, March 1, 2013 at Hughey Funeral Home in Mt. Vernon, Illinois. INTERMENT: Atkinson Cemetery in Jefferson County, Illinois. For those who wish, memorials may be given to The Smith Family and will be accepted at the funeral home or may be mailed to Hughey Funeral Home, P.O. Box 721, Mt. Vernon, Illinois 62864.

Who are the parent sof Lorriane M. HUTCHCRAGT and the parents of Harry Ezra WILLIAMS???