Here we go again. Help, these Wheelers are driving me nuts. Can anyone connect to this branch and if not can you tell me how to trace Arthur and his father George into York England? Arthur states in his marriage record that he was a farmer living in Pilot. Does anyone know where Pilot is? Thanks, without your help I would have never got this far. Jack Mayhew. jmayhew050@aol.com Descendants of George Wheeler Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE WHEELER was born in England. He married MARGAI N. CHRISTIE. She was born in England. Child of GEORGE WHEELER and MARGAI N. CHRISTIE is: 2. i. ARTHUR2 WHEELER, b. Abt. 1857, York England; d. New York. (May have been more children as we pick Arthur up in Ill.) Generation No. 2 2. ARTHUR2 WHEELER (GEORGE1) was born Abt. 1857 in York England, and died in New York. He married MATTIE E. JOHNSON July 17, 1880 in Krankakee County, IL (License # 642 Page 54 entered Sept 14, 1880), daughter of JOSEPH JOHNSON and CARRIE DUAY. She was born Abt. 1857 in Palmarya, New York. Children of ARTHUR WHEELER and MATTIE JOHNSON are: 3. i. CLIFFORD ARTHUR3 WHEELER, b. July 05, 1881; d. April 08, 1923, Palmyra, Wayne County, NY. 4. ii. MABEL WHEELER. Generation No. 3 3. CLIFFORD ARTHUR3 WHEELER (ARTHUR2, GEORGE1) was born July 05, 1881, and died April 08, 1923 in Palmyra, Wayne County, NY. He married DORA SRATFORD MULLEN Abt. 1903, daughter of HARMENIES MULLEN and ELEANOR HAMMILL. She was born 1883 in Canada, Toronto area, (came to states in 1898/naturalized in 1902, and died 1952 in California. Notes for CLIFFORD ARTHUR WHEELER: 1920 census: NY, Wayne County, Palmyra Village, 6 Jan, E.D. 156, Sheet 4, household #107 Wheeler, Clifford A. head of head, rents, M, W, age 37, Married, born in IL, Father born England, Mother born NY. Machinist at printing press co. Dora S. Mullen, wife, F, W, age 37, married, immigrated 1898 and naturalized in 1902. born in Canada, speaks English. There was a border, Mary A. Smith, F, W, age 79, widowed, born in IL, father born in Scotland, mother born in Scotland Clifford A. Wheeler died in Palmyra on April 8, 1923. The cause of death was "Suicide, by taking Carbolic acid". New York Certificate of Death, #29790, Dist. # 5825, Wayne County, Village of Palmyra New York, Dated April 10, 1923. Clifford was buried on April 10, 1923 in Palmyra, New York. Children of CLIFFORD WHEELER and DORA MULLEN are: 5. i. HAROLD STRATFORD4 WHEELER, b. July 20, 1904, Palmyara, Wayne County, NY; d. April 16, 1973, Rochester, NY (Ashes scattered at Mt. Hope cemetery). 6. ii. ELEANOR E. WHEELER (ADOPTED), b. May 1918. 4. MABEL3 WHEELER (ARTHUR2, GEORGE1) She married CECIL TAYLOR. Notes for CECIL TAYLOR: Cecil Taylor was an Episcopal Church Minister in Adams, N.Y. then later in Utica, N.Y. where he died. Children of MABEL WHEELER and CECIL TAYLOR are: i. CLIFFORD4 TAYLOR. ii. DONALD TAYLOR. iii. MARION TAYLOR, m. HUNTER. Generation No. 4 5. HAROLD STRATFORD4 WHEELER (CLIFFORD ARTHUR3, ARTHUR2, GEORGE1) was born July 20, 1904 in PALMYARA, Wayne County, NY, and died April 16, 1973 in Rochester, NY (Ashes scattered at Mt. Hope cemetery). He married (1) HAZEL G.. She was born October 14, 1907. He married (2) DOROTHY DUNN. He married (3) GERTRUDE LILLIAN MILLER November 26, 1925 in West Henrietta, Monroe County, New York, daughter of HARRY MILLER and ALBERTA STEVENS. She was born May 03, 1910 in Buffalo, NY, and died July 06, 1992 in California. Col. John W. Mayhew, USA Ret. 2021 Huntwood Drive Gambrills, MD 21054 410-451-4087 Fax 410-451-4079 Email jmayhew050@aol.com

The Society lists a book called, "Ancestor Book IV." Can anyone tell me what is in this book -- there's no description. Also, can anyone do a look up in the 1870 census for Fred, Fredric or Frederick Doss for me? He would have been about 40 years old. In 1880 he was in Essex Township, Kankakee Co., IL. I know he married Mary Maskrod in 1874, and that he immigrated in about 1855. Thanks in advance for your help. Charlotte

There has been a big reformatting of the Kankakee Daily Journal web site. Tom Reiser Chicago IL

The Ford County ILGenWeb Project and Iroquois County ILGenWeb Project pages have been updated with the following queries and surname postings: In Iroquois County: RUSSELL HOUSER Later Debi Visit my Web pages at: http://members.aol.com/LaFineD/LaFineD.html or http://www.capstonebank.com/~lafined/ Stop by the Iroquois Genealogical Society Page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilicgs/index.htm

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B458165307D8D34422E09D84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------B458165307D8D34422E09D84 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ERWIN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Delivered-To: kmonticue@mail-dnvr.uswest.net Received: (qmail 98647 invoked by uid 0); 15 Oct 1999 01:47:53 -0000 Received: from mail8.uswest.net (204.147.80.26) by dnvrpop4.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 15 Oct 1999 01:47:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 20237 invoked by alias); 15 Oct 1999 02:42:17 -0000 Delivered-To: kmonticue@uswest.net Received: (qmail 20210 invoked from network); 15 Oct 1999 02:42:16 -0000 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (204.212.38.30) by mail8.uswest.net with SMTP; 15 Oct 1999 02:42:15 -0000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09752; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:47:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Suttafran@aol.com Message-ID: <0.24b8696e.2537ef80@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:46:24 EDT Subject: Check out RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project Old-To: DUTCHER-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <XJ7LzB.A.oXC.tWpB4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: ERWIN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ERWIN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ERWIN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/199 X-Loop: ERWIN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ERWIN-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hi Folks, I received this on another family list and thought you would like to know about it, especially if you don't already have a web page: ~~~~~~~~ You can upload your family file to RootsWeb for free! And, boy, is it great! I just uploaded and it only took a few minutes. You have the option to include "more about" notes or not, you can include your sources or not, you can "clean" the info on your living folks---many options available. First, you need to set up an account, so you can upload your file, and later, to edit it (which I just did, also). Then, send it up! So easy and so fast. It took HOURS to send it to the Family Tree Maker site. Just minutes at RootsWeb, and it's much more complete. Also, you can add "post-ems" to anyone's data, and you can be notified when someone adds a post-em to yours, so that you can connect. This is brand new, just got started yesterday, I think. There may be a few bugs yet, but there's a message board where the fellow taking care of the GEDs is posting responses to the suggestions. And he is fast. Here's the URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ~~~~~~~~~ Even if you don't upload your info, it is a nice search site. As more gedcoms are submitted, there will be more data to search. TTYL, Fran Daniels Suttafran@aol.com http://members.aol.com/sandyinbc/sandra.htm So many ancestors...so little time! --------------B458165307D8D34422E09D84--

Oct 14 I do not understand what I am to do with the e-mail forms which I receive with the subject as ILFORD-D Digest V99 #117. Help! E Brooke rbrooke@netusa1.net

Hi, My name is David from San Diego, CA. I am researching my family in Illinois and I am searching for more information on my Murphy line. I am looking for information on my GGGG Grandfather Patrick Murphy and GGGG Grandmother Ann Murphy). The preliminary information is that they had a son named David who owned the Murphy Bros. Livery Stable in Joliet in 1860's, 1870's?. They had a daughter named Johanna (my GGG Grandmother) born in approx. 1838 in Wexford Ireland. Johanna lived in Gilman, Illinois and married a John Mulvaney. Patrick came to Will, Co. in approx. 1850 and settled in the township of Troy. If you have any information regarding my Murphy family, please contact me. Thanks, David ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

The Ford County ILGenWeb Project and Iroquois County ILGenWeb Project pages have been updated with the following queries and surname postings: In Iroquois County: BURLINGAME / SMALLEY BELAND / RYAN BORING / HOBAUGH / McNEAL BOYER BOSWELL / BAUGH In Ford County: CALTEAUX / CALTEUX / CAILTEAUX / COLTEUX / DECKER / KICKEY / JACOBS / PILGRIM Later Debi Visit my Web pages at: http://members.aol.com/LaFineD/LaFineD.html or http://www.capstonebank.com/~lafined/ Stop by the Iroquois Genealogical Society Page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilicgs/index.htm

oops!! I'm sorry that my question wasn't as clear as it could have been. I know that JW Troughton married Ida Tederstrom. She married again in 1898 so I was wondering if JW Troughton died or if they were divorced. Is there an easy way to find this out without knowing the exact date? Thanks, Kim mailto:christk@maplewoods.cc.mo.us >>> "Kim Christensen" <ChristK@maplewoods.cc.mo.us> 10/11 10:49 AM >>> I am looking for information on JW Troughton. I know that in 1893 he was 26 years old, and he was a carpenter in Paxton (Ford Cty), Illinois. His father is John Troughton and his mother's maiden name is possibly Jane Conn. (The name is difficult to read from the marriage register.) Any information about the Troughtons or Conns in Ford County would be appreciated. In looking through records in Paxton, IL in a newspaper I found a short obituary for a Mrs. JW Troughton who died in Kankakee, IL. This could be his mother. But the notice was very short and didn't list any relatives or anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kim in Overland Park, Kansas mailto:christk@maplewoods.cc.mo.us ==== ILFORD Mailing List ==== ********************************************************** To search the list, go to RootsWeb Mailing Lists -- Interactive Search http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Enter ILFORD in the text box requesting which mailing list you wish to search.

----- Original Message ----- From: <mona_houser@juno.com> To: <ILFORD-L-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: WOLLE - RIECKMANN -- Kankakee Co., IL > Hi, > > In 1867 my ggrandparents, Heinrich Christoph RIECKMANN and his wife > Elisabeth nee WOLLE emigrated from Hanover to the US and settled in > Kankakee Co., near Grant's Park. According to emigration records in > Germany, there were several other WOLLEs who emigrated also, Johann > Heinrich, Wilhelm Heinrich, and Heinrich, in 1865 and in 1867. They > were all destined for the Chicago area, which I assume could have > extended as far as Kankakee Co. > > They were Lutherans. > > Later, in the 1880s, the Rieckmanns bought land in Nebraska and then > homesteaded some additional land. > > Does anyone else have connections to these names? > > Mona > Mona_Houser@juno.com >

Looking for the parents of Phillip C. Patnaude born 1884 Illinois, died 1948 Illinois, buried L'Erable. Also looking for parents of his wife Anna J. Tatro born 12 Dec 1891 Illinois, died Feb 1979, buried L'Erable. Also need info on offspring, if any. Anna Tatro had a brother Frank Tatro, living with the couple in Iroquois Co in 1910. Cheers, Grant Merrill Email Grant_Merrill@compuserve.com

I am looking for information on JW Troughton. I know that in 1893 he was 26 years old, and he was a carpenter in Paxton (Ford Cty), Illinois. His father is John Troughton and his mother's maiden name is possibly Jane Conn. (The name is difficult to read from the marriage register.) Any information about the Troughtons or Conns in Ford County would be appreciated. In looking through records in Paxton, IL in a newspaper I found a short obituary for a Mrs. JW Troughton who died in Kankakee, IL. This could be his mother. But the notice was very short and didn't list any relatives or anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kim in Overland Park, Kansas mailto:christk@maplewoods.cc.mo.us

check the IL State Archives database for IL marriages. <A HREF="http://www2.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/marriage">Marriage Search</A> Debbie

Hi, I am new to this list and am looking for family. I am a descendant of George Bishop who was born in 1823 in Pickaway County, Ohio then moved with his parents and lived most of his childhood and early adult life in Lafayette, Indiana, where he enlisted in Company C. Vol. Inf. 5th Regiment of Indiana, in the Mexican War. He also married someone who is unknown to me. 1859 is when George is married to his second wife, Mary Cady and moved to Iroquois County, Illinois. It is here when he enlisted in the Civil War in August, 1862, in Company D, Vol. Inf. 113th Regt. Does anyone know anything about this family? George and Mary had my ancestor Nora Ida Bishop in Iroquois County, Illinois in 1862? Any direction or help with this family would be appreciated. Happy hunting, Maureen Brook

Can anyone identify Amos Patnaude, born Aug 1881 Illinois, living alone 1900 Ashkum Twp, Iroquois Co, Illinois? I would like to establish his parents and any other info. I don't find him in the 1910 miracode index. Cheers, Grant Merrill Email Grant_Merrill@compuserve.com

Hi! What an interesting web site! Can you imagine, receiving a postcard from the KKK State Hospital! There is a link to the old state hospital in Indianapolis, now partially demolished. According to info on the (Indiana) Central State Hospital web page, the Indiana archives has files of commitment records, etc. and a person can contact the Archives and order a photocopy of the patient's 'complete record'. This seems incredible. (See web page re info on patient files below.) http://www.state.in.us/icpr/webfile/csh_aiin/csh_data.html Illinois State Archives may also offer this service? Joanne in CA ---------------- -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Gocken <cwixgo@capstonebank.com> To: ILFORD-L@rootsweb.com <ILFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 9:23 PM Subject: [ILFORD-L] Eastern IL Hospital >This was passed to me and I thought others might be interested. Lee, >consider a link? > > http://members.dencity.com/asylums/index.html SNIP SNIP

Cheryl, This is an excellent site. Thanks for posting it! Chuck Wilcox ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Gocken <cwixgo@capstonebank.com> To: <ILFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 11:23 PM Subject: [ILFORD-L] Eastern IL Hospital > This was passed to me and I thought others might be interested. > http://members.dencity.com/asylums/index.html

This was passed to me and I thought others might be interested. Lee, consider a link? http://members.dencity.com/asylums/index.html It concerns itself with state hospitals that were open in the later part of the 19th century. It evens has a category for some of the hospitals. Scroll down to Illinois and there is a blurb about the K3 hospital with real dates. Cheryl Wixon Gocken

Trying to make the Canada connection for great grandparents and need their baptimal/birth dates and place of birth. Would be glad to share info with others researching these families. Jacob MORIN, married: Adelaide PROULX, date: Feb. 7, 1851 place: Bourbonnais, Illinois, Maternity BVM witnesses: Jacob PROULX, Servit MORIN, (Rene COURJAULT, Pastor) Holly Forgue

The Illinois Eastern Hospital for the Insane is now called Samuel H. Shapiro Developmental Center. It's located where it has been since about 1890, in Kankakee. Its name was changed to Kankakee State Hospital in 1910, to Kankakee Developmental Center in 1975, and finally to Samuel H. Shapiro Developmental Center in 1977. As for how to get records, I've been told by officials there that it's difficult for privacy reasons. You might be told it takes a court order to get records. Here's some good advice once sent to me by one of our members: Go to the Circuit Clerks office in the town where your relative lived. Request court records that put the person in the insane hospital. They are filed just like Wills. You will find a lot of testimony from family & neighbors, most likely along with data on the person themselves. Birth, marriage and country of origin (if they weren't born here) and their parents. This is what I found on mine. If the person died there you will find out the disposition of body. Our phone book gives a Shapiro address as 100 East Jeffery, Kankakee, IL 60901. Phone numbers listed are 815-939-8011 and 815-939-8221. I hope this helps! ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Pro <davepro88@yahoo.com> To: <ILFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 12:45 PM Subject: [ILFORD-L] Illinois Eastern Hospital > I am looking to get records from the Illinois Eastern > Hospital for my GGG Grandmother who was admitted in > the 1890's. The commitment papers indicate this > hospital is located in Kankakee. She lived in Gilman, > IL. Does anyone know if this hospital still exists? > Also, the address and where I might write to get > copies of her file? > > Thanks, > > David Provencher > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ==== ILFORD Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************** > To search the list, go to > RootsWeb Mailing Lists -- Interactive Search > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Enter ILFORD in the text box requesting which mailing list > you wish to search. >