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    1. [ILFORD-L] NEED SERIOUS REST TIME
    2. HELLO Due to my health at the present time, I will be offline mostly during the next 3 weeks. I need to keep my emails down very low during during that time and so, I must unsub from your lists until I can get back online. You can still email me privately if you wish to. For abt 6 days, my computer will be down. Thanks for understanding, I'll Be Back.....:) You are GREAT Lists and GREAT PEOPLE. Sally Hathaway sjhathaway@aol.com

    07/08/1999 08:18:16
    1. Re: [ILFORD-L] Re:KKK co. records available online
    2. In a message dated 7/7/99 9:38:35 PM Central Daylight Time, RJNEndeavors@webtv.net writes: << Tonight's Kankakee Journal says birth,death, and marriage certified copies are available with a credit card at the following URL www.visitweb.com/k3countyclerk Rosemary Nixon >> I have called the Kankakee County Clerk's office for a marriage certificate and found that all of the above is quite true. Be prepared, however, to pay a surcharge if you choose to use a credit card. If you are cheap, like me, you can still print out a form letter for use in ordering using an old-fashioned check. Dennis

    07/08/1999 07:31:22
    1. [ILFORD-L] Re:KKK co. records available online
    2. Rosemary Nixon
    3. Tonight's Kankakee Journal says birth,death, and marriage certified copies are available with a credit card at the following URL www.visitweb.com/k3countyclerk Rosemary Nixon http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/9848/prayer.html

    07/07/1999 08:37:09
    1. [ILFORD-L] Happy 4th!!
    2. Loretta Krumwiede Barlow
    3. http://members.aol.com/MMichon/occasions.html -- Loretta Iroquois County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iliroquo/ Ford County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilford/ Iroquois County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilicgs/

    07/04/1999 04:25:39
    1. [ILFORD-L] Grosscurth
    2. I am looking for the name Grosscurth in Illinois. Is anyone else searching this name? Carrie Grosscurth m. Frank Doss July 15, 1903. They had one daughter, Mary Catherine or Catherine Mary. I've got my fingers crossed. Charlotte

    07/03/1999 11:27:24
    1. [ILFORD-L] Elijah Sapp 1807-1862 & Allie Thomas 1813-1901
    2. Hello, I'm looking for any information on the following family. Siblings, parents, descendants. Willing to share info. Thanks, Daryl Bruner LYRAD22@aol.com Husband: ELIJAH SAPP Birth: 14 Jan 1807 Place: GREENSBORO, GUILFORD CO., NORTH CAROLINA Death: 8 Mar 1862 Place: WATSEKA, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Burial: Place: BELMONT CEMETERY Marriage: 19 Jun 1831 Place: DANVILLE, VERMILION CO., ILLINOIS Wife: ALLIE THOMAS Birth: 23 Feb 1813 Place: ADAMS CO., OHIO Death: 26 Sep 1901 Place: WATSEKA, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Burial: Place: BELMONT CEMETERY Father: ASA THOMAS (1785-1870) Mother: ELEANOR FRANCES FREEMAN (1793-1837) Other Spouses SMITH THOMAS Children... 1. M Child: WILLIAM SAPP Birth: 21 Apr 1833 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Spouse: ELIZABETH WELCH Marriage: 15 Aug 1859 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS 2. F Child: ELEANOR (NELLIE) SAPP Birth: 1834 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 17 Nov 1874 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Spouse: JOHN HENRY EVETT Marriage: 2 Dec 1855 3. F Child: SARAH (SALLIE) SAPP Birth: 1836 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 12 Mar 1887 Place: WATSEKA, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Spouse: ANDREW C. HESS Marriage: 1852 4. M Child: BENJAMIN FRANKLIN SAPP Birth: 4 Apr 1839 Place: MILFORD, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 30 Jan 1926 Place: SHELDON, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Burial: Place: BELMONT CEMETERY Spouse: RACHEL LUCINDA TYLER Marriage: 1862 Spouse: PHOEBE E. BARDEN Marriage: 12 Dec 1877 Spouse: MARY J. COOK Marriage: 5 Aug 1899 5. F Child: MARY E. SAPP Birth: 1840 Place: MILFORD, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 14 Jul 1883 Place: WATSEKA, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Burial: Place: OLD CEMETERY, WATSEKA, ILLINOIS Spouse: WILLIAM H. HOOVER Spouse: HARRISON GARNER Marriage: 1861 6. M Child: ASA SAPP Birth: 1842 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 7 Sep 1863 Place: MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE 7. F Child: ALLIE (ABBY) SAPP Birth: 13 Jul 1846 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 19 Mar 1926 Place: ONARGA, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Burial: Place: ONARGA CEMETERY, ONARGA, ILLINOIS Spouse: DAVID LYONS Marriage: 7 Jul 1867 8. M Child: SAMUEL SAPP Birth: 12 Apr 1850 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 30 Jun 1877 Place: BELMONT TWP., IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS 9. M Child: JOSEPH WARREN SAPP Birth: 11 Jul 1853 Place: IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 1 Nov 1889 Place: WATSEKA, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Burial: Place: BELMONT CEMETERY Spouse: MARY ELIZABETH FULLER Marriage: 6 Aug 1882 10. M Child: ELIJAH SAPP Birth: 21 Oct 1857 Place: MILFORD, IROQUOIS CO., ILLINOIS Death: 2 Jul 1915 Place: PEORIA, PEORIA CO., ILLINOIS Burial: Place: SPRINGDALE CEMETERY Spouse: IDA MAY POWELL Marriage: 22 Jan 1898

    07/03/1999 11:03:50
    1. [ILFORD-L] Harris
    2. G. T.
    3. Hi All, One last time..... Looking for info. on a Romulus Harris. marriages 1)Mary E. Reeves 2)Laura Parrish born in VA about 1848 Anyone know of him? Julie _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/

    07/03/1999 07:45:26
    1. Re: [ILFORD-L] Gillott
    2. Loretta Krumwiede Barlow
    3. CHenley29@aol.com wrote: --snip-- > Of course, an alternative > would be that their accents were heavy and the enumerator could not > understand the name of the child. All comments welcome. <smile> > > Charlotte I figure that's how my Uncle Adolph, pronounced Aw'duf, known as Audy, pronounced Aw'dee, showed up as Otto on a census. Heh. -- Loretta Iroquois County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~iliroquo/ Ford County ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilford/ Iroquois County Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilicgs/

    07/03/1999 06:52:12
    1. [ILFORD-L] Gillott
    2. I have come across the name of a great great uncle at the age of 1 in 1870 and rather than being listed as Julius he is listed as Gillott. His family said they were from Switzerland; they settled in Illinois. Has anyone ever heard of this name? Does it translate to Julius? Of course, an alternative would be that their accents were heavy and the enumerator could not understand the name of the child. All comments welcome. <smile> Charlotte

    07/02/1999 03:12:54
    1. [ILFORD-L] Ford and Iroquois Counties
    2. Deborah LaFine
    3. The Ford County ILGenWeb Project and Iroquois County ILGenWeb Project pages have been updated with the following queries and surname postings: In Iroquois County: SCHRODER / KENNEDY / OVERACKER / PRINGLE / COINER ROMINE ARSENEAU AUSTIN BOYLS / CODER / FOX NEAGLE / NAGLE / BRADDOCK / CROTY STEINKE / DUMKE / ZISS / ZISK / ZISKA In Ford County: BREEDEN VARNER STEINKE / DUMKE / ZISS / ZISK / ZISKA Later Debi Visit my Web pages at: http://members.aol.com/LaFineD/LaFineD.html or http://www.capstonebank.com/~lafined/ Stop by the Iroquois Genealogical Society Page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilicgs/index.htm

    06/29/1999 03:44:19
    1. Re: [ILFORD-L] Conley family
    2. Kaye Wallace
    3. Hi Nancy– I sent the previous e-mail too quickly. The state archives, through the IRAD(Illinois Regional Archive Depositories) system lists a birth record index for Kankakee County for 1863-1905. I do not know what these records consist of as I have not used such. The regional depositary for both Kankakee and Iroquois counties is at Illinois State University. You can look this up at http//www.sos.state.il.us/cgi-bin/iradsrch?Kankakee. There is no similar index for Iroquois County. The only such index is the one printed by the Iroquois County Genealogical Society which I quoted from. You could try to find a newspaper article referring to the birth from that time but I seriously doubt that you will find such. At that time, births were usually not reported. Secondly, I do not think that the Chebanse paper had been established yet. When I did some research a few years ago, it seems to me that the records don't start til about 1870. If you wish to check this out, you can do so through the Illinois State Historical Library, located in the basement of the Old State House in Springfield. It is on the internet and you could probably e-mail them asking them to check their newspaper collection for a paper that covers the time line. Also, there was an 1865 state census. This only has head of household information but could be useful. You can check with the Illinois State Archives to do a lookup. Unfortunately, not all counties are indexed so if you ask them to check, include not only the two counties, but also the townships of Otto and Pilot in Kankakee County and Chebanse and Milk's Grove townships in Iroquois. The State Archives are also on the internet. On page 70 of the Past and Present of Iroquois County (1907), there is a notation that William M. Hickey was born in Chebanse on 25 Sep 1882 to Thomas and Beeze (Conley) Hickey. The same book on page 555, states: "The farming interests of Chebanse township find a worthy representative in Samuel J. McCuen, and his excellent form of two hundred and thirty acres indicates in its splendid and well kept appearance his careful supervision and progressive methods. A native son of Illinois, he was born in Cook county, March 7, 1859, and is of Irish lineage, for his father William McCuen, was born in the Emerald isle, whence he came to America in 1849, making his way direct to Cook county. For some years he was employed in various ways, and with his savings he bought forty acres of land in that county, this being his first real estate. He was married in Ireland to Miss Jane Conley, and they became the parents of eight children, of whom seven reached years of maturity." You should check the site of the Iroquois County Genealogical Society. They have a name lookup program for a minimal amount but , more importantly, the president and librarian or archivist is Cheryl Gocken who is very knowledgeable about what records are available in the county and she can probably tell you how to get access to the church records in Chebanse. They undoubtedly have the 1865 Iroquois county census and have the microfilms of most of the newspapers. They may even have a file on the Conley family. Byron Wallace in FL, too.

    06/28/1999 09:43:42
    1. [ILFORD-L] Subscribe
    2. Please subscribe me to the mailing list. Thanks, Dee Schnell DSchn93119@aol.com Researching: Steinke Dumke

    06/28/1999 08:53:20
    1. Re: [ILFORD-L] Conley family
    2. Kaye Wallace
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Gerry and Nancy Walsh <gmwalsh@gte.net> To: ILFORD-L@rootsweb.com <ILFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 7:41 PM Subject: [ILFORD-L] Conley family >While in the Chicago area we drove to Kankakee, to find the birth record of my grandfather. Their records only go back to 1878, so I wonder if there is any other way of finding out the information I am seeking, namely his parents name. >His name is Cornelius J. Conley, was born in Chebanse Nov. 30, 1868. >We did drive to Chebanse and found St.Mary and St. Joseph Church, but no one was around. I don't know how long he lived there, he did go to Chicago, and worked for the Commonwealth Edison Co. While searching the Kankakee records we did find some Conley names that were changed from Conolly. >Would like some information of where to search next. >Thank you Nancy Conley Walsh St Petersburg Fl. > Petersburg Fl. > Hi Nancy– If you'll pardon another Floridian from making some suggestions, I'd like to make a few comments. Chebanse is on the county line between Kankakee and Iroquois counties. If I remember correctly, the church is in Iroquois County. Your Conleys may have lived in either county. The church of St. Mary and Joseph was established at about the same time as the birth noted. The History of Iroquois County (1880) says it was established in 1867 or 1868 [p.340 pt.II] Prior to that it was a mission of the L'Erable church. I reviewed the old records [1856-1879] of St. John the Baptist Church of L'Erable and there is a very interesting marriage noted on 3 Dec 1867. There is an entry that date of a marriage of Joseph Kenaly (Conley?Connoly?) To Amy Applebee (Appleby?). by Fr. Pernin. (No witness given) [Fr. Pernin was in charge of the mission at Chebanse.] [As to the spelling, remember we have french priests writing Irish names in Latin and phonetically and the condition of the records and the writing are exceedingly difficult to decipher.] The 1870 census for Kankakee County has a Thomas Conley in Pilot township which is west and north of Chebanse. The southeast corner of Pilot township is about five miles directly west of Chebanse. His wife's name is Mary and there are six children listed from 1/12, to 10 years of age, in order from oldest to youngest: John, Thomas, William, Harriet, Katie, and Patrick. The 1870 census for Iroquois County lists two Conleys: Dennis Conley on page 60 of Chebanse township, family #455; and a Patrick Conley on p. 59 of Douglas township, which is the third township south from Chebanse, as family # 432. There is also a Michael Connah in Chebanse township and a Hiram Connel in Middleport township which is quite a distance away. The only Conley that I note in the 1880 Iroquois county census is John W. Conley in Danforth township which is the second township south of Chebanse township. Others are Hugh and James C. Connell from south Iroquois County; Edward, Patrick and Mary L. Connelly, also from Sheldon and Loda townships in the more southerly parts of the county. There is a James Cooney from Chebanse. I found no births listed in Iroquois county at the right time period. There is a child born to John W. Conley and Mary Grey in 1884 and a boy to Eli Conley and Nellie White in 1910. In 1878, there is a child born to William Connell and Birdget Bradley. Also in 1880, a child to Edward Connely and Kate Omelia. The History of the Early Settlement of Chebanse Township did not list any Conleys, only two Conways. There are other references in the L'Erable book which may be of interest. John Connoly and Julie Sashville were the Godparents at the 11 Jan 1869 baptism of Catharine Costagan (Costigan) by Fr. Clement; 26 Dec 1868 born to Daniel Costagan (Costigan) and Maria Sullivan of Chebanse Also–17 Jul 1860 baptism of Maria Callon by Fr. VandePoel; 17 Jun 1860 born to John Callon and Anne Comley. Godparents: Patrick Nonne and Cathrine Vendre. Also–29 Sep 1867 baptism at Loda of Mary Hellen (Helen) Callahan by Fr. Pernin; 21 Sep 1867 born to John Callahan and Ann Coneley (Conley?). Godparents: Charles McLaughlin and Ann Wilson. [the spelling and ?? are from the text of the translation.] Have you tried Commonwealth Edison personnel records? This was a quick skim of my books so I could have missed some of the applicable names but maybe something in the above will give you an idea. Byron Wallace in Lehigh Acres (Ft Myers)

    06/26/1999 10:42:09
    1. [ILFORD-L] Conley family
    2. Gerry and Nancy Walsh
    3. While in the Chicago area we drove to Kankakee, to find the birth record of my grandfather. Their records only go back to 1878, so I wonder if there is any other way of finding out the information I am seeking, namely his parents name. His name is Cornelius J. Conley, was born in Chebanse Nov. 30, 1868. We did drive to Chebanse and found St.Mary and St. Joseph Church, but no one was around. I don't know how long he lived there, he did go to Chicago, and worked for the Commonwealth Edison Co. While searching the Kankakee records we did find some Conley names that were changed from Conolly. Would like some information of where to search next. Thank you Nancy Conley Walsh St Petersburg Fl. Petersburg Fl.

    06/26/1999 01:37:38
    1. [ILFORD-L] Robert McCracken and Hidalgo
    2. Hi all! I am researching the Kelly and McCracken families who resided in Iroquois and Ford counties. My father used to tell how when he was about 9 years old (1901) he and his brother would walk a couple of miles over to their grandfather's uncles (they must have been awfully old)! and just sit and listen to them talk. They all came from Co. Down Ireland and it must have been fun to hear their Irish accents. Robert McCracken was a minister. He wrote a book of about 160+ pages called Hidalgo. His sisters were Mary Ann (Mrs. Wm John) Kelly and Margaret (Mrs. John) Kelly. John and William John were not related that I know of. Are there any descendants of Robert McCracken or the two ladies still around there? I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone who would know. Thanks in advance ~ Evelyn Young, Lincoln NE

    06/26/1999 12:09:24
    1. [ILFORD-L] BAKER Augusta
    2. I have Augusta Baker b. 24 NOV 1842 and d. 04 SEP 1924 m. to David Layer b. 25 AUG 1842 in Strimpfelbach, GER and d. 26 JUL 1905. They are both bur. in Onarga Cemetery in Iroquois Co., IL. Would like to connect with anyone who may have information about these individuals or their families. Doug Hamer Lake Charles, LA

    06/19/1999 05:09:25
    1. [ILFORD-L] "Mince Meat Pie" & "Black Sheep"
    2. Mince Meat Pie by, Lillian G. MERKLE HEBERT One of the delicious concoctions we had in the winter was mince meat pie. This was made with green tomatoes, apples, raisins, and spices, and maybe some other things, all ground up together. Ma [Anna Genevieve WALLACE MERKLE] canned it in half gallon jars and when she made the pies, she added a pint of rich Jersey cream. When I worked at the Bear Brand Hosiery Company, one day there were pieces of mince meat pie in the cafeteria. As we sat down everyone compared their menu with the others and when someone asked me what I had I told them "and mince meat pie for dessert." Josephine ZULLO nudged me and said, "It's Friday." I looked at her, puzzled and said, "So what?" "You've got mince meat pie." I laughed and said, "There's no meat in it." "Yes, there is." "It's made with apples, raisins, and green tomatoes." "But there's meat in it." We argued back and forth and finally I said, "Let's go ask the cook." We went up to the counter with the piece of pie and I asked one of the cooks. "Can you settle an argument for us? She's trying to tell me there is meat in this pie." "Of course there is. That's why it's called mince meat pie." I told her what I thought would be in it, and she laughed and said, "That's what is called mock mince meat. This has real meat." So I put that piece back and took another kind. The following week I took a piece of mince meat pie and said I was going to see what the difference was. I couldn't see any at all. I told Josephine that if she had kept her mouth shut, I could have eaten it without knowing I was eating meat on Friday. Black Sheep by, Lillian G. MERKLE HEBERT When I was growing up I knew I had two uncles I had never seen. Uncle Tom WALLACE was in Canada and nobody knew where Uncle Harry WALLACE was. After Grandpa [Peter Hagerty] WALLACE died in the Spring of 1922, Uncle Pete, from Peoria, tried to locate Uncle Harry. By writing to different radio stations, which often had a public service of trying to locate people, and getting letters from all over from men who had worked with a Harry WALLACE railroad building, mining, farming, carpentering, you name it. It took almost two years before they found him at Santa Rosa, New Mexico. He had married an Indian woman and had a small son, Lorenzo. His wife was dead and, when he found out that Grandpa and Grandma [Mary DONOVAN WALLACE] (who had died July 1923) were dead he said he wouldn't try to come back to Illinois again. He wrote now and then and sent pictures, and said he was a photographer, but there was no closer contact than that. Meanwhile, nothing ever seemed to be said about Uncle Tom, and one day, after I was married, I made a remark to Frank that maybe we should invite Uncle Tom to the surprise party we were going to have on Ma and Pa [Christian A. MERKLE & Anna G. WALLACE] for their 35th anniversary for another surprise. Frank [MERKLE] let out a snort, "He wouldn't dare come back to Illinois, he's end up in jail." I didn't say anymore and kept Frank's remarks to myself, but decided lately that it might be a good idea to include even the history of the black sheep in these articles, so I asked Bill [MERKLE] about him. He didn't recall too much and had no knowledge of any law-breaking as such, but did think that maybe Uncle Tom was mixed up in some investment scheme that soured and probably some people lost money on it. So it's a toss up. Was it bad judgement or dishonesty? [contributor's note: If anyone knows anything more about these two fellows, I'd love to hear from them!]

    06/18/1999 11:13:06
    1. [ILFORD-L] "Boarding Out" by, Lillian G. HEBERT
    2. Boarding Out by, Lillian G. MERKLE HEBERT After I wrote about the Bear Brand factory, I thought of some other things related to my life [ca. 1931-1934]. I roomed at Mrs. Carney's rooming house, for $1.50 a week, which was at 219 N. Dearborn and was either moved or bulldozed down when Montgomery Ward built the big store which is now Graham's furniture. After Wards moved out it was a Kroger's grocery for awhile. They took everything from the two blocks and south of Mrs. Carney's house was a Seventh-Day Adventist Church which is now an apartment building out on East Broadway, just a half block from Rte. 50. The Lincoln School had been at the north end of her block and that was torn down and the lower grades who had used that building were transferred out to one of the other schools. Since I worked nights, I didn't get up too early and usually went to a little street car diner on the west side of the first block of Dearborn and had a sandwich and a glass of milk for about 15 cents around 11:30, and that would hold me until the supper break at work and I would eat there. When I read it over about the prices, I think I was too generous with some of the prices. I believe the beef and noodles and spaghetti were four cents and pork chops or meat loaf six cents. Sometimes, they had roast chicken and, at Thanksgiving she roasted several turkeys, and even that, somewhat of a luxury then, was usually only about eight cents for a nice serving. Bread was a penny a slice, and butter a penny. There were always choices or three or four meats and the vegetables were more seasonal then than they are now, but when there were no fresh ones, she used canned ones. I know I seldom spent more than twenty cents for a very satisfying meal. One day when I was in the diner, I noticed that the dishes were piling up in the back. A man named Mick, a wheeler dealer, ran it and waited on the counter and visited with the customers and his mother-in-law was the cook. She was not a professional cook. I gathered, as I got to know them, that she had put up the money for him to go into business when he was out of work, and she cooked simply to protect her investment. I asked, if I came and washed dishes for an hour could I work for my lunch, and they hired me. After that, I went in about 11:45, ate my lunch and washed dishes until about 1:00, then went home and got ready to go to the factory at 2:00. When the factory cut back to one shift, I no longer did that. After we were married, they had moved to a little café on the northwest corner of Court St. and West Ave. When I was laid off in May [ca. 1935], I went there and washed dishes and flunkied for both of our meals, and Eddie came from the factory and ate at noon. I went in about ten, ran to the store for some supplies, washed dishes during the rush hour, and when Mary Ellen, the waitress, went home at two, I tended the counter for coffee and pie, etc., during the afternoon I swept the floor, wiped off all of the tables, filled the catsup bottles, shakers and then, at five Eddie came and we ate and then went home since Mary Ellen would be back for the supper hour by then. Since a plate lunch, a serving of meat, potatoes and vegetable with a slice of bread was 25 cents, I was putting in those hours for $1 a day. Sometimes the cook fixed us a nice meal if Mick wasn't arobut when he was there she had to give us only what he would approve of, since we were not considered customers. He would take the money from the cash registers when he came in to see how things were going, and sometimes, she didn't have the money to pay for supplies to make a good menu. I came to the conclusion that he was sort of a con man, or maybe a gambler, or something, because a year or two later the place closed and I never saw them around town after that. When I was called back to the factory in August I quit. I don't think I could ever be much of a waitress or short order cook. When I had been at Mrs. Carney's a couple of weeks, Genevieve came to work in Kankakee, too. Since I was sharing a room with her daughter, Mrs. Carney did not have a room for both of us, and sent us to the corner north of there, to Mrs. Draude, who kept rooms in a big house on the northwest corner of the corner. That house went, too, when the Ward store was built. We lived there for quite a few months until Genevieve got a job as secretary to Nelson and Kay in Watseka. Velma Blanton, a girl that she had roomed with at Mrs. Carney's when they went to Gallagher's Business School, had worked for them and had decided to move to Peoria where one of her sisters lived, and she called Genevieve to come in for an interview and she got the job. Since we had been paying two dollars each for the room, I asked one of the girls on the floor whose sister had worked for the summer, and was going back to school, if she wanted a roommate. She said yes, but didn't want to move that far away, so I moved down to South Dearborn with her. We roomed together until I moved to Liz's, in August before we were to get married [1934]. The room at Liz's was not very big, but had a bed, dresser, table and little chest with a two-burner stove on it and the closet was divided so that half of it was a pantry. There was a door to the side that opened on to a little alcove with a sink and toilet and also to the basement door. There was a door on the other side to the main part of the house, and we had to share that bathroom with the family. Now and then, one of us would forget to unlatch the little latch that we would put on to their door when we were in it, or they would put on ours when they were in it. Our front door was never locked, so if that happened she could come in our room and go into the bathroom and unlock their side, if we were at work. About a month before we got married, Mr. Wertz, who worked at Kroeler's, said they were selling things off of the floor, which they did now and then, so I had him buy me a sofa bed, for $25, where the back drops down to make a bed, and there was a bin underneath to put the bedding away. That made our room a little less crowded during the day and, we had to make up the bed every night and put it away every morning. That house was at 605 East Merchant St. and it is still standing, and now, the front porch is built on. When we lived there we came in front into a small room, sort of a big entrance room, from which the stairs went up, and the girls played in there. There was a small settee and I put the little desk I had bought in it, and I think it looke like they might have made a big room by building in the porch and taking the partition out. Liz' family lived in four rooms, and there was a three-room apartment upstairs. That is the way lots of families did to make ends meet in those days. They had four kids, and the youngest was just a baby when we moved in. It is hard for young people to see how we could make ends meet with those wages, but people didn't buy much, other than groceries and needed clothing. No one dared charge anything because jobs were sometimes gone overnight and nobody wanted to owe money to anybody. Those who had cars, drove them only when necessary, if they lived too far from work, or to get big orders of groceries, and we walked almost everywhere. From May to August, when I was still on six dollars a week, I had $15 saved up and George and Robert MERKLE from Claypool [Indiana] came and took us to Chicago to the World's Fair, and we all chipped in and paid the room rent for Friday and Saturday nights, at a home that was doing the same thing, doubling up on couches, in order to rent out sleeping rooms. One of the things that happened then, was at the Fair. We were all hungry and it was Friday. Since they were not raised Catholic, they could have a hamburger, which were a dime. We bought cheese sandwiches, also a dime, and they teased us because their hamgurgers smelled so good and we couldn't have any. Our sandwiches were on big slabs of rye bread, with only a bit of butter and the cheese was about a quarter of an inch thick and they were very slow eating. They finished their hamburgers in about four bites and stood there looking at us, still having eaten only about a fourth of our sandwiches, and very sheepishly, went and got themselves each one to get filled up. Then, we teased them. And some people call them the good old days. . .

    06/18/1999 10:31:26
    1. [ILFORD-L] Farm Schedule, 1900
    2. Does anyone know where and how I might find the 1900 farm schedule for Essex Township, Kankakee County? Charlotte Henley

    06/17/1999 06:04:15
    1. [ILFORD-L] Kankakee Civil War Book - look up request
    2. Dia Utterback
    3. Hi, Does anybody have access to Mary Schatz's Kankakee Co. Civil War Veteran's book? I am looking for info on Alexander Wilson, 113th Illinois Infantry, Co. B. Many thanks. Dia Utterback dutterback@telis.org

    06/15/1999 11:35:36